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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 08:59:43 AM »
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I'm glad you guys found my model!  This was a project I started a while ago after reading a few threads on Trainboard.  I originally intended to make this model modular - like atlas' or Kato's models, with a cab, hood, and sill fixture.  After a few test prints in that configuration, I decided to make it one piece because the sill and cab were just too flimsy in the FUD material.  After pointing this out on Trainboard, many of the contributors in the thread were still interested in a shell, even if it were just a starting point to a kit bashed model.  Because I model the Western Maryland, I had planed on modeling the four axle trucks with Alco trucks from Atlas, in a GP30/35 chassis.  I quickly discovered that the GP30/35 chassis is too tall.  I think it could work with some milling, which would also make DCC a challenge.  I never included grills or handrails on this model because they just don't print well.  I have had great success with 3D printed kits as multi-media kits - buy using brass wire for handrails, and photo etched parts for as many things as possible, they actually turn out quite nicely.  There are holes for the handrail stanchions, the grab irons, and many of the pilot details.  The grill areas are simply a recessed area in which I planed to insert a photo etched part at some point.  I hope its something that you guys are able to use, and I'm curious to see what you come up with.  I will stay in the loop on the forum, and try to improve the shell along the way!

YES! Another WM guy, we're slowly showing those SPF's what a real railroad is! Noticed the H9 shell came off your Shapeways site, will it be returning?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 09:40:37 AM »
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YES! Another WM guy, we're slowly showing those SPF's what a real railroad is! Noticed the H9 shell came off your Shapeways site, will it be returning?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 10:55:19 AM »
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I'm glad you guys found my model!  This was a project I started a while ago after reading a few threads on Trainboard.  I originally intended to make this model modular - like atlas' or Kato's models, with a cab, hood, and sill fixture.  After a few test prints in that configuration, I decided to make it one piece because the sill and cab were just too flimsy in the FUD material.  After pointing this out on Trainboard, many of the contributors in the thread were still interested in a shell, even if it were just a starting point to a kit bashed model.  Because I model the Western Maryland, I had planed on modeling the four axle trucks with Alco trucks from Atlas, in a GP30/35 chassis.  I quickly discovered that the GP30/35 chassis is too tall.  I think it could work with some milling, which would also make DCC a challenge.  I never included grills or handrails on this model because they just don't print well.  I have had great success with 3D printed kits as multi-media kits - buy using brass wire for handrails, and photo etched parts for as many things as possible, they actually turn out quite nicely.  There are holes for the handrail stanchions, the grab irons, and many of the pilot details.  The grill areas are simply a recessed area in which I planed to insert a photo etched part at some point.  I hope its something that you guys are able to use, and I'm curious to see what you come up with.  I will stay in the loop on the forum, and try to improve the shell along the way!

I'm wondering if a RS motor and casing could be retrofitted to a GP30/35 frame to address the clearance issues.  This may be a long way around way of dealing with it though. 

Regarding the etchings you speak of, do you have them available?  I've often thought Shapeways should have an etching department, to allow the possibility of multi-medium projects.

Have you finished a model or have photos of a completed shell at least?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 11:14:54 AM »
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You got it!


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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 12:18:01 PM »
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I'm wondering if a RS motor and casing could be retrofitted to a GP30/35 frame to address the clearance issues.  This may be a long way around way of dealing with it though. 

Regarding the etchings you speak of, do you have them available?  I've often thought Shapeways should have an etching department, to allow the possibility of multi-medium projects.

Have you finished a model or have photos of a completed shell at least?

I have a hood and sill section, but not a cab- this is from when I was working on the modular setup.  I do not have any etchings, I've explored a little to find places that would allow me to submit my own artwork, but haven't pursued it.  If anyone here is able to do it, I'd trade a shell for some etched grills!  I have a few photos buried somewhere over on trainboard ill see if I can find them.  In the mean time, I'm on the road for work for the next three weeks and won't be able to post any new pics

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2013, 02:52:55 PM »
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As far as the grills, are they like the photo (chicken wire) or are the louvers?
If the former, maybe some 480 per inch brass wire mess from McMaster Carr.
If louvers, could some very fine clapboard siding (maybe Z scale) work?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2013, 03:13:47 PM »
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Thanks for providing those very WM-specific models.  I'm not in the market for anything new at the moment, but if I end up building a small switching line, I'll be glad to know that stuff is out there.  Especially like the channel side hoppers.  I might have to give them a whirl.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2013, 04:13:44 PM »
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I still plan to build a Rayonier AS-616, and have my chassis already sorted.  I have put a set of Randy's Commonwealth sideframes on an Atlas/Kato RS-1, with the RSD-5 trucks replacing the Type"B" trucks.  By using the Atlas/Kato version, it is a straight swap for the trucks from the earlier Atlas RSD-5/12 trucks.  Although Randy's sideframes are intended for the Atlas C-630 chassis, they don't look too bad on the older and slighly shorter truck.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2013, 10:53:17 PM »
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I still plan to build a Rayonier AS-616, and have my chassis already sorted.  I have put a set of Randy's Commonwealth sideframes on an Atlas/Kato RS-1, with the RSD-5 trucks replacing the Type"B" trucks.  By using the Atlas/Kato version, it is a straight swap for the trucks from the earlier Atlas RSD-5/12 trucks.  Although Randy's sideframes are intended for the Atlas C-630 chassis, they don't look too bad on the older and slighly shorter truck.
Cheers
Steve

Steve, you mentioned "Randy's Commonwealth sideframes," is this a product or a fellow modeler's efforts? Are these available and if so where?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2013, 01:01:43 AM »
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I bought 2 sets from Randy a couple of years ago. I think the idea at the time was to use them to make the huge centre cab Baldwin.

Check out this post on Train Board:
http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?143810-Those-wacky-AS-616-commonwealth-trucks

Not sure if Randy still has these, but maybe worth asking.  He does real good work.  Photos in this linked post, show the sideframes on an Atlas RSD-5.  By putting them on an RS-1, you get a better overall wheelbase.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2013, 11:16:36 AM »
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I'm glad you guys found my model!  This was a project I started a while ago after reading a few threads on Trainboard.  I originally intended to make this model modular - like atlas' or Kato's models, with a cab, hood, and sill fixture.  After a few test prints in that configuration, I decided to make it one piece because the sill and cab were just too flimsy in the FUD material.  After pointing this out on Trainboard, many of the contributors in the thread were still interested in a shell, even if it were just a starting point to a kit bashed model.  Because I model the Western Maryland, I had planed on modeling the four axle trucks with Alco trucks from Atlas, in a GP30/35 chassis.  I quickly discovered that the GP30/35 chassis is too tall.  I think it could work with some milling, which would also make DCC a challenge.  I never included grills or handrails on this model because they just don't print well.  I have had great success with 3D printed kits as multi-media kits - buy using brass wire for handrails, and photo etched parts for as many things as possible, they actually turn out quite nicely.  There are holes for the handrail stanchions, the grab irons, and many of the pilot details.  The grill areas are simply a recessed area in which I planed to insert a photo etched part at some point.  I hope its something that you guys are able to use, and I'm curious to see what you come up with.  I will stay in the loop on the forum, and try to improve the shell along the way!
I was just looking at this shell on Shapeways last night.LV had one Baldwin,#200,I'd like to order a few.Piperguy,don't suppose you have a pic of the actual shell?

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2013, 12:09:26 PM »
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As far as the grills, are they like the photo (chicken wire) or are the louvers?
If the former, maybe some 480 per inch brass wire mess from McMaster Carr.
If louvers, could some very fine clapboard siding (maybe Z scale) work?

This could work.  The louvers are printed, and came out surprisingly well.  The screens would be for the radiators at the tops and sides of the long end of the hood.  These areas are recessed about 3 scale inches, so by the time a square of mesh is cut to fit in each of these areas, it would probably work out perfectly!

LV Lou,

I have one picture of my first test print over on train board, and it isn't a great pic at that! but heres a link.  The model hadn't even been cleaned at this point - I'm not sure why I posted it!  :facepalm:  For you WM guys, there are a few more pics of the nearly completed H9 in there!

http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/album.php?albumid=1761

This is from when I was working on the modular idea.  The sill and cab have both been revised and are now one piece with the hood.  I was pleased with the hood itself so it did not receive any revisions.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2013, 03:46:20 PM »
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Looks good to me..I'll be getting at least two..

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 06:24:12 PM »
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I just jizzed myself.


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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2013, 11:42:19 PM »
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I just uploaded a two pack for you guys that model baldwin crazy roads.  That will save you a little bit of cash!

I'm interested to see what you guys come up with for a drive.  When I came across this issue, the project was placed on the back burner.  But if someone comes up with something I will certainly get back to work on it!  Now if someone would just make accurate transition era decals for the WM!