BQ23-7 Build Thread

[DMU-Fan]

The Surfliners look very interesting...but it doesn't sound like they are going to be a very easy car to finish, given he just indicates a single flat piece of plastic for the floor...gonna have to figure out correct truck spacing and coupler mounting...not to mention cab windows and a paint scheme. Gonna be well over $100 per car. Look Model was selling brass Sufliners for that price!

[jpf94]

And also this - but unfortunately it's UK N-scale and the designer has no current plans to re-work it for 1/160:



What exactly does this mean?

Joe

[sirenwerks]

I'd love to see some finished model shots of those North Shore shells.  Hard to tell what level of detail there is with that clear material.  If they're nice, I'd love to see a Electroliner, unless Con Cor gets off its duff and does an N scale version of their HO model.

[ljudice]

And also this - but unfortunately it's UK N-scale and the designer has no current plans to re-work it for 1/160:



What exactly does this mean?

Joe

Joe - British N-scale is 1/148th -  while European and American N is 1/160th.....   Japanese N-scale is 1/150.   

This machine or something very close to it - is used on the continent and the USA/Canada, so the creator is aware of the potential market, but re-sizing it for 1/160 may involve a lot of work with clearances, wall thickness, etc...

Be aware, this only applies to my SECOND link on the Tamper - the first link is all good to go, 1/160th...

- Lou

[Catt]

Oh yeah, gonna want a couple of these beauties. 

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1087732/bq23-7-cab.html?li=productBox-search

[u18b]

Hey Fellows,

This car is running on CSX Fire Safety train.

Wow.

http://www.shapeways.com/model/945556/amtrak-horizon-coach-v1-doors.html?li=productBox-search

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3506629

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2887861

[3rdboxcar]

Hi all

I am the designer of the BQ23-7

I was pointed to Railwire by somebody who had been looking at buying one but got confused whether it is 1:160 or 1:148. So I have signed up to answer some of the questions on the thread. These are my views on 3D printing.

My BQ232-7 is in 1:160 scale and will fit an atlas B23-7.

6axlepwr - The material I use is FUD which is Shapeways finest product for detail, this allows detail to 0.1mm, when I am asked how is it compared to a Kato or Atlas model I think about 90%, there are some fine lines [I do not have a measuring instrument that can measure them they are so small] on large flat surfaces these can easily be sanded off. I think the calibration of the printer and orientation in the print run can cause some minor defects.

Leggy - now that would be a nice what could have been, I always found it strange that no other railroad tried out a Q cab.

DMU fan - my reason for not putting a hole in the body of the surfliners / california cars was that some people wish to run on tight radius others not it is not hard to mount the bogie on the plasticard and position it where you wish, it was designed for using Kato bogies so the coupler comes fitted to the bogie. As for the price unfortunately that's what it is, I have been told by many people that my markup is ridiculously low and it will be doubtfull if I ever recover my costs or even have a remote thought of giving up my day job. I have a friend working on decals for both the surfliners and california cars.

Sirenworks - An electroliner is on the cards. Next couple of weeks will see 2 versions of the combine and 2 versions of the diners. I have sold 14 interurbans so far and no complaints, just requests for more versions.

ljudice - thanks for confusing everybody about the scale of my cab with your first post  I agree it can be frustrating that we cannot specify orientation etc on Shapeways but considering how new the technology is I think like you that will come with time. I have tried a couple of other printer companies that allow to specify orientation and the prices were nonsense.

As a general comment if you wish your model to be as smooth as Kato or Atlas and any less will not do then you need to move on as 3D printed objects are not for you at this moment in time. But if you wish to do a little cleaning up then you can have the models you have always wanted. It seems that when somebody says Shapeways is rubbish the comment grows viral with people using hearsay and not actually holding a printed model in their hand.

Hope this has answered some of the questions so far. Pleased to answer any more.

Alexander

[John]

Oh yeah, gonna want a couple of these beauties. 

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1087732/bq23-7-cab.html?li=productBox-search

I have one on order ..  the cab is missing a window .. the small triangular one just in front of the three side windows .. not sure if I am going to try to fix that ..

[John]

Hi all

I am the designer of the BQ23-7

Alexander

Alexander .. thanks for joining .. and thanks for doing the work on the BQ23-7 .. I've always had a soft spot for this ugly creature ... It was on my list of things to do .. design one for shapeways .. but you saved me a lot of work .. hope to see some of your modeling here ..

[ljudice]

Alexander -

Sorry, the scale thing applied to the second link - which is a UK guy - thought that was clear....  I've fixed my original post!

I'm hoping my post here has brought you some exposure, you have some interesting models and I wish you the best with them. 

The process gets better and better and if I needed a BQ-23, I'd order yours in an instant!!! 

I am thinking about your coalveyor sides. I just noticed these on the Fostoria cam the other day.  Have you considered doing CSX gon extensions for tie cars?


- Lou

[Catt]

John said

the cab is missing a window .. the small triangular one just in front of the three side windows .. not sure if I am going to try to fix that ..

From pictures I have seen that little window got plated over real fast.I hope you will post some pics when you get your cab.

[jmlaboda]

"This car is running on CSX Fire Safety train."

Actually, no.  The cars on The Firefighters Education and Training Foundation (CSX being only one of several sponsors of the operation) are former NJT/NJDOT/EL Pullman Standard Comet I cars with lower vestibule doors.  The AMTK Horizon cars were inspired by the earlier design but are a good bit different.

Hey 3rdboxcar, any chance of you posting some high resolution shots of your passenger cars?  It would help folks who might be interested in deciding whether to purchase some or not.  Would be glad to recommend them myself, depending on how well the cars actually look.

[3rdboxcar]

Hi

John as catt said the small triangular windows on the cab sides got plated over quickly, there was also a small window below the engineers window that as far as I know got plated over even quicker, I think they got broken easily and things were striking the engineer.
If you would like a cab with all the windows in or with the side windows only or all plated over as a B unit let me know, should not be to big a job to add whatever.

Lou - no problem on the confusion, I thought the same when I read your post then realised what you meant. the coalveyor sides are still sitting in my to complete box although they have been painted and the original hoppers partially repainted, as you know there are a million things that suit 3D it's just getting round to them and I have enough on the to do list to last for ages.

jmlaboda Will post some Hi resolution images later of the Interurbans, etc, I do not have them at the moment they are at my friends who they were done for.

Alexander

[davefoxx]

Hell, yeah!  I ordered a BQ23-7 cab.  I actually had inquired with a few asshats a while back to help me design this cab.  Problem solved.  3rdboxcar's design meets my quality standards, and I don't mind spending a little time doing some clean up.  Thanks, 3rdboxcar and welcome to The Railwire.

DFF

[John]

Hi

John as catt said the small triangular windows on the cab sides got plated over quickly, there was also a small window below the engineers window that as far as I know got plated over even quicker, I think they got broken easily and things were striking the engineer.
If you would like a cab with all the windows in or with the side windows only or all plated over as a B unit let me know, should not be to big a job to add whatever.

Thanks for the offer, but I will just use a number (probably 3009) that doesnt have the window .. here are some shots of 3008 that I scratchbuilt out of styrene back in 2008 .. this will be a huge improvement for me .. I just put the shell into stripper ..