Best Of SP&S 4-6-2 #626 Project

[jmlaboda]

Definitely an interesting thread... but I am still trying to figure out where mmagliaro link is...

[reinhardtjh]

Definitely an interesting thread... but I am still trying to figure out where mmagliaro link is...

This?  www.maxcowonline.com

[jmlaboda]

No.  He wrote:

"Here's a link to a photo of a GN E-14 (these were the 4-6-0's that were rebuilt into GN H-5 and H-7)."  No link provided...

[mmagliaro]

No.  He wrote:

"Here's a link to a photo of a GN E-14 (these were the 4-6-0's that were rebuilt into GN H-5 and H-7)."  No link provided...

Hmmmm.  I could have sworn that link was in there.  Did I break some rule about putting direct links to other pages in this
forum?  (I'm sure somebody will chime in and tell me if that is the case).  I didn't get any messages from the moderators.
Well, in case I just forgot, here is the link:
http://www.gngoat.org/gn_steam_8.jpg

Now, if I am not supposed to that, please let me know and I will remove it.

[mmagliaro]

Ok cool,  it looks like in your post that only one wheel is insulated.  I was thinking if you have a live axel.. touching the frame and the edge of the insulated wheel touches the frame you would have a short.  But I must have miss understood.

Oh, now I get it.  The wheel with the insulator in it actually has a bit of the insulator sticking out inside of the wheel
so that the metal back of that wheel cannot slide over to touch the frame.  NOW I see why you asked!  Thanks!

But now that you mention this, it would probably be safer to put a thin plastic sheet on the metal frame
in there to be sure.   I will post a photo to show this part soon.   Thank you.  This really helps!

[Chris333]

I didn't see a link either up-stream, but you mentioned the model E-14 so I just Googled it. No biggie. You can see between the front of the fire box and the steam dome that some extra length was added. I wonder if they built whole new boilers or just stretched what they had. Again unique.

I'm waiting for Max to add working oil lube pots on top of the sliders, and where is the opening smoke box with interior? I'm sure it's coming


Hey you need some freight power next like a 2-8-2 or something similar 

[mmagliaro]

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Hey you need some freight power next like a 2-8-2 or something similar 

It's coming.   A 2-8-2 will probably be next, because I have a GHQ NP W-3 kit, and the SP&S had
their own very similar version of those.

[mmagliaro]

Here are detail close-ups addressing Jason's concern about a possible short.  As you can see, it will not short out.
If it turns out I need more clearance, it will be easy to remove this truck (one screw under the loco frame), take out
the wheelset (one screw as shown in the photos below), and file away.

[Lemosteam]

Amazing how much milage folks get with those Minitrix Delta trucks!

Coming along nicely Max!

[superturbine]

Good solution..... I like it!

[delamaize]

It's coming.   A 2-8-2 will probably be next, because I have a GHQ NP W-3 kit, and the SP&S had
their own very similar version of those.

I need to find me a W3 kit still, I got a Kato Mike that has a thrashed shell that is begging for the conversion.....or better yet, the W5 if they release it.

[wazzou]

It's coming.   A 2-8-2 will probably be next, because I have a GHQ NP W-3 kit, and the SP&S had
their own very similar version of those.

Weren't they NP W-3's that the SP&S purchased?   SP&S 2-8-2 #539 that was displayed in Battle Ground, WA was former NP W-3, #1762.  It was purchased by The Grand Canyon Rwy. folks and shipped to AZ.

[delamaize]

Weren't they NP W-3's that the SP&S purchased?   SP&S 2-8-2 #539 that was displayed in Battle Ground, WA was former NP W-3, #1762.  It was purchased by The Grand Canyon Rwy. folks and shipped to AZ.

does she still live there?

[mmagliaro]

Weren't they NP W-3's that the SP&S purchased?   SP&S 2-8-2 #539 that was displayed in Battle Ground, WA was former NP W-3, #1762.  It was purchased by The Grand Canyon Rwy. folks and shipped to AZ.

Yes.  So it should be a very straightforward build (unlike my current project!)

[mmagliaro]

Pilot Truck.

If nothing else, this thread will provide some insight into how much tedious work it is to build things like this.
This little sub-component, the pilot truck, took me 6 hours of work to finish.

Why?
Besides the photos below, what's not mentioned there is that I had to replace the wheelsets with
Atlas metal 36" wheels, with the pointed axle tips ground off.  The truck frame axle holes had to be reamed out
with a jewelers reamer to accept the new, slightly thicker, axle.  Then the knurling on the axle shaft near the back
of each wheel caused the axles to not spin smoothly, so I had to grip each axle in a small clamp, fixed in a vise,
and run a thin band of 800 grit sandpaper back and forth, wrapped around the axle, behind each wheel, to smooth that area.

The pilot truck frame itself had to be moved slightly backward to line up with the position of the new cylinders, which is
why I had to make a new brass mounting arm (in the photos).  But that caused the edge of the truck frame to hit
the engine frame near the front drivers, so the edge of the truck frame had to be ground off.

Even though I filed the top of the mounting nut (photos) to provide clearance under the engine, I still had to shave and file
the styrene block that screws into the frame to hold the cylinders in place.

None of it is rocket science.  Just lots of little things to get something like this to work right, so it will roll smoothly and track
through curves without hitting or derailing =  6 hours.  You'd never know from looking at the photos.