Pennsy T1 Build

[superturbine]

You built a very nice 2-10-2 Tony, thanks for your opinion.

[superchief]

Jason the T1 is looking great!!!!!! love the progress so far, GREAT WORK..............that being said, Guys we have somehere that is building an N scale steam loco from scratch, he has chosen to go with a tender drive (his choice), if don't like TENDER DRIVE then please BUILD YOUR OWN WITH A DRIVE IN THE LOCO and then SHOW US......that it runs and RUNS WELL then we can hijack YOUR thread and tell why YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT A DIFFERENT WAY!!!! please let back the people that are building stuff !!!!!! thanks Gordon

[SkipGear]

Gordon,
What Jason is doing is making the shell available for the masses that can't or don't want to scratchbuild them and the tender drive is the easiest way to do it. I'm not faulting him for his choice in this application, it's just not the way I prefer to do it. Since he is only providing the shell, it is up to the individual to decide how they want to proceed. I was just showing why I won't build a tender drive loco.

[nstars]

Ok, here is a youtube video of the test run of the engine.  Making the engine free rolling was not just a simple pull the motor and gear out.  The 2nd driver is very loose in the drive box and required shimming or order to keep the wheel in contact with the rail and rods and cross head required work to reduce friction.

Tomball Locomotive Works

BTW HOW DO I properly post a you-tube link?

Nice!!!! Great progress Jason.

Marc

[superturbine]

Hey thanks Marc,
Building my temporary tender made me truely appeciate the work that you guys do.

[nstars]

Sorry to continue the tender drive comments but this is why I don't like tender drive....

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Start watching about 1:15. One of the traits of the T1 was that they were slippery and spun the drivers quite easy.

Steam locomotives often struggled for traction and when it is being pushed, you can't simulate that.

This is my only reason I don't do tender drive. I like long trains, my 2-10-2 regularly pulls 80 cars, but that is about what the real loco could do. More than that, or too much grade and it slips, just like the real loco.

This is the nice part of the shells from Jason, you can make the drive you want. BTW If you want this kind of performance in N scale I would suggest to power only only driver set. Otherwise both driver sets will slip which isn't prototypical either.  With single expansion mallets or duplex loco's only one of the driver sets tended to slip. We have done that too with for instance Y6b mallets. However, it was not important for us as most of these loco's shouldn't slip with the length of train normally behind it on model  layouts.

Marc

[nstars]

Hey thanks Marc,
Building my temporary tender made me truely appeciate the work that you guys do.

Thanks for your nice remark!

Marc

[robert3985]

You built a very nice 2-10-2 Tony, thanks for your opinion.

Class act Jason...   

[superturbine]

Two is always better than one

Shop crews are being trained and taking a look at the new T1's in preparation for final assembly. 
Second T1 will receive its tender.... Hopefully in Milwaukee!  Work looks great on the frame Nstars please repost.

[mmagliaro]

At the rate you build engines Jason, the T1 could be the first engine where you build more models than
there were prototypes.   
( Kidding, of course.  I know, the PRR had 52 T1's.  )

[superturbine]

Ha, the funny thing is I had to pull out the first engine and see how I did it.  Building the complete class of engine is reserved for the UP FEF, only 15 more to go!

[OldEastRR]

This may be heresy, but why do people want these engines? Sentiment? Or is it just a "thing",  like wanting a DL109?  I mean its a great modeling job but these locos were only used on one small part of the Pennsy system (and a not so interesting scenically one) -- how many guys are modeling Chicago to Crestline? At least the legendary GG-1 went everywhere there was catenary. It seems the T-1 was legendary to only a small group of die-hard Pennsy fans.
And the (only) S-1 ... it ran what, four times? Again, great projects that make excellent models but ... I guess to each his own. What is the magic allure of these locos?

[peteski]

This may be heresy, but why do people want these engines? Sentiment? Or is it just a "thing",  like wanting a DL109?  I mean its a great modeling job but these locos were only used on one small part of the Pennsy system (and a not so interesting scenically one) -- how many guys are modeling Chicago to Crestline? At least the legendary GG-1 went everywhere there was catenary. It seems the T-1 was legendary to only a small group of die-hard Pennsy fans.
And the (only) S-1 ... it ran what, four times? Again, great projects that make excellent models but ... I guess to each his own. What is the magic allure of these locos?

Myself, I enjoy owning models of weird, unusual or rare locomotives (even if they never ran the railroad I model).  I think that they are "cool". 

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Sigh, I think it's time to give up my trains. I just can't keep up anymore.

Oh, $5 to the first member who sends Inkaneer a post card of their completed T1.

[mmagliaro]

Sigh, I think it's time to give up my trains. I just can't keep up anymore.

Oh, $5 to the first member who sends Inkaneer a post card of their completed T1.

Okay, where do I send it?  Pay up   

(why Inkaneer?  Did I miss something?)