Pimpin' Panamint: Pennsy Coaches, Monitor Roofs, Link-&-Pin & more!

[Altoona]

I beleive CCC stands for Consolidation Coal Company (1860–1991)

Judd Barton

[Kiasutha]

I beleive CCC stands for Consolidation Coal Company (1860–1991)

Judd Barton

Yes.
Which in turn owned the "Cumberland and Pennsylvania" railroad.
(which became part of the Western Maryland later)
John H.White's book on early American freight cars confirms that the C&P ran these,
as well as several other rr's and coal companies in that general region...

[robert3985]

Not everything that Panamint produces is just 1800's stuff.  His CB&Q 5' Passenger Trucks are a near dead-ringer for Union Pacific Q-trucks, used on Non-Standard, CA, CA-1, CA-3 & CA-4 wooden and steel cabooses...some right up into the '80's.  Fantastic models, love the brake hangars on the ends.  Puts MT trucks to shame as this simply could not be done as a one-piece injection molded part.

Here's a photo of a pair of 'em on one of my in-progress CA cabooses.  Just the addition of Z-scale couplers and these trucks makes a huge difference to my eye.

[e cox]

Yep, thanks. There's a longer wheelbase one for Overtlands and some offset bolster varieties for Overton cars (p/n T52, T58, T45) too. I didn't like those freight trucks that come under the Overtons, so these are like what was on the Sierra RR prototypes.

For the 20th Century I also offer a nearly complete line of the General Steel Castings 8-wheel passenger car trucks that equipped the Canadian Pacific's lightweight passenger fleet. Cars went on to Algoma Central, CN, DM&E, BC Museum Royal Hudson consist etc. Geoff Gooderham makes resin kits for most of these cars, sold through Central Hobbies. They fit the Gooderham bolster studs and MTL type pins too.

I got carried away and made the three major types, in addition to all the known journal variations and combinations so you can match just about any car:P.  Also made a few with an offset bolster hole to clear the end steps on some cars. Shapeways being the organizational mess it can be, I only list them in sets of 8, but anyone can contact me and get whatever they want. Just search CPR.

http://www.shapeways.com/search?q=cpr&s=10

Eric

[M.C. Fujiwara]

[Under new format, perhaps needs to be move to "Product Discussion" (though it is all pre-1900's N scale)]

Work & fam have taken me out of the personal projects for awhile, but over the last couple months have received some of Eric Cox's Panamint pre-1900 models, and am now getting excited to get back into model railroading.

Ordered lots of trucks (wooden archbar & fox) and some monitor- & arched roof coaches, with interiors!







Toilet looks a bit tall, but as someone who's had to squat over a shifting hole on a 3-day train ride through China, I think it's welcome relief
[oops, just notice the interior should be rotated 180 so the stovepipe angle fits]

Also received a prototype of the 10T Iron Pot hoppers:



Two-piece construction:



[brake wheels included]

Some light sanding, a Bestine bath, some music wire along the side to reinforce the frame, a wee bit o' lead in the bottom of the pots, and an interesting piece of rolling stock!
A unit train of about 10-15 behind a 2-6-0 or American would look very pre-1900 lovely.

Oh, but go with solid-yet-exacting link-&-pin (needle-nose pliers make it easy) or more-accommodating MTL 905 Z-scale couplers?
Hmmm.....

[Baronjutter]

Are the trucks on that caboose 3d printed?  They look amazing, looks like a HO model or something.  Looking forward to seeing how these tiny coal cars turn out, the printing looks a little rough and grainy right now but I bet the bestine and sanding plus painting will smooth it all out.  Nice to see you doing something in N scale!

[peteski]

AI bet the bestine and sanding plus painting will smooth it all out.  Nice to see you doing something in N scale!

Since these are white I think the Bestine bath was already done.

[nkalanaga]

CC&C was the Charleston, Cincinnati & Chicago Railroad, part of the Southern after 1894.  If it was known as the "Triple C" they may not have always used the "&".  From Wikipedia:

"The Charleston, Cincinnati and Chicago Railroad, informally known as the Triple C, was a Southeastern railroad that operated in the late 19th century.

The company was formed in 1886 with the idea of extending a rail line from Charleston, South Carolina, to Ashland, Kentucky, in an effort to mine coal and iron ore found in the Appalachians.[1] Construction began at Rutherfordton, North Carolina, with rails being laid both north and south.[2]

In 1890, major investor Baker Brothers & Co. failed and a court-appointed receiver was ordered for the Charleston, Cincinnati and Chicago. Three years later, the line was sold to its bondholders and a new corporation was established: The Ohio River and Charleston Railway.[3]"

It could also be a coal company, assuming that the "X" for private owners wasn't in use, or enforced, in the 1890s.

Reporting marks from:
http://www.pwrr.org/rrm/index.html

[Iain]

What are you using for links?

[robert3985]

Are the trucks on that caboose 3d printed?  They look amazing, looks like a HO model or something.  Looking forward to seeing how these tiny coal cars turn out, the printing looks a little rough and grainy right now but I bet the bestine and sanding plus painting will smooth it all out.  Nice to see you doing something in N scale!

They certainly are 3D printed.  Here's another photo of them on one of my kitbashed N-scale CA-1's.  I've got both the HO Walthers CA-1 cabooses and the later Trix CA-3/4 cabooses (for display purposes only) which have the Q-trucks.  Eric's N-scale models of these trucks are BETTER than the HO scale versions by these two manufacturers...by a long shot.


Incidently, U.P. built nearly identical wooden-framed versions of the later steel reinforced CA and steel framed CA-1's in the late 1800's.  The only way to tell the difference was by the number on the cabooses and a square lantern box on top of the cupola for some of them.  They were designated "Non-Standard" cabooses, and some of them lasted into the 50's in branchline, non-helper service, so photos of these models with Panamint late 1800's CB&Q 5' Passenger Trucks on them are appropriate for this thread.

[Specter3]

About halfway down the page here

http://www.midcontinent.org/rollingstock/builders/osgood.htm

Is a pic of an 1890s wooden coach Osgood bradley built for the New Haven. Still great lookin behind a 4-4-0 but would also look fine behind a 4-6-0 or 2-6-0

[sharriso]

We have been using Panamint Models 1800's prints for some time.  So it's time to update this thread.  My wife has been busy in the shop with some of Eric's models.

Here are some coal jimmies:



And here are some pot hoppers.



Our thanks to Eric Cox.

Shawn and Sally Harrison
  Modeling 1850s B&O

[Chris333]

I have those coal jimmies, nice models!

[M.C. Fujiwara]

Looking good!
Hopefully will inspire me to finish my jimmies and pot hoppers.
Also have some monitor-roof coaches that I want to rock out.

[coosvalley]

Can anyone provide a link to those trucks(on the UP caboose)?..and the longer wheelbase ones as well?...Those are really close to what I am after...What are the wheelbase on both of these?...I need to match the wheelbase to the MT BX express trucks, which I do know have a wheelbase of 10.1 mm, which I think is 5'6"?...