What is Kato showing in the box?

[Ian MacMillan]

The class lights were only present on F40PHs prior to the ditch lights being added. When the engines were modified with ditch lights, the class lights were removed. The class lights were required for operation on Conrail trackage. Of corse CSX took over right at the same time as the ditch light requirement.

MBTA #1000 is a perfect example:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3306555
Mid 80's with low marker lights and class lights.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2985293
Engine modified with ditch lights, high markers and no class lights in 1999.

Read it again. I'm not talking about lower markers on MBTA units, I stated high markers with recessed ditch.

And they were not low class lights on the MBTA units when they had low markers as they only denoted one color, red. A class light would be capable of showing at least two colors, such as red and white, but could show 3, ie red/white/green. The "high markers" could more properly be called class lights.

[sd75i]

  I'm sure the requests for these must be in great quantity.  How about a KCS, SP AC4400CW?  SD75M, SD75I.  CN and ATSF are good sellers, aren't they?  Isn't there about 274 roadnames in the SD40-2 left?  I do welcome the heritage ACE's.

[central.vermont]

You would also have to remove the dynamic brakes as well for an MBTA unit.

Jon

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Great, an SLRG 90mac, finally, all those folks clamouring for one will be sated... Seriously, they do that but no Conrail SD40-2??? Or second run of RDCs???

Fscking mind boggling.

[ljudice]

Great, an SLRG 90mac, finally, all those folks clamouring for one will be sated... Seriously, they do that but no Conrail SD40-2??? Or second run of RDCs???

Fscking mind boggling.

Remember Seinfeld and the alternate world "Bizzaro" characters???  Perhaps there is a Bizzaro Railwire out there where people clamor for SLRG SD90's etc...????

[Ed Kapuscinski]

That must be the explanation. I get some of how Kato operates, focusing on "big" things, instead of the mundane, but the shelves of unsold Algoma Central SD40s had to tell them this was a bad idea.

[Ian MacMillan]

You would also have to remove the dynamic brakes as well for an MBTA unit.

Jon

Right, which is why I said one step closer.

If Kato is willing to retool for METRA markers, maybe a retool for removal of dynamic brakes and recessed ditch lights isn't far behind. 

[packers#1]

Ed, there are also still Conrail, NS and CSX SD80MACs and SD70MACS at MBK, and NS SD70M's and CSX SD70ACes. That could be what's scared them off of NS, CSX, and Conrail (although the SD70ACes would have to be sorta new)

[EspeeGoldenState]

  I'm sure the requests for these must be in great quantity.  How about a KCS, SP AC4400CW?  SD75M, SD75I.  CN and ATSF are good sellers, aren't they?  Isn't there about 274 roadnames in the SD40-2 left?  I do welcome the heritage ACE's.

Give me 3 of the SP AC4400CWs, and unnumbered one or even a patched UP version.

[peteski]

Peteski,  you must not get Kato's Twitter feed!  Because that's what they tweeted - "hey try and figure out what's in the box underneath the Metra loco"  !!   

You're right - I'm not a Woofer, Tweeter, or a Facebooker.  I already waste too much time on this time-robber called "personal computer". 

[peteski]

Read it again. I'm not talking about lower markers on MBTA units, I stated high markers with recessed ditch.

And they were not low class lights on the MBTA units when they had low markers as they only denoted one color, red. A class light would be capable of showing at least two colors, such as red and white, but could show 3, ie red/white/green. The "high markers" could more properly be called class lights.

Isn't the loco Daniel showed just like the one you want?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2985293

Kato's new Amtrak shell has that arrangement.

[Ian MacMillan]

Isn't the loco Daniel showed just like the one you want?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2985293

Kato's new Amtrak shell has that arrangement.

Yes the photo you posted is what we are looking for but Kato does not have the proper shell for this yet. The newest Amtrak shell has recessed ditchlights, and high markers, but it also has the center "emergency" red light, roof mounted AC unit and the DB housing grills which you would need to eliminate.

The new Metra shell is similar to the older pre shopped MBTA units that Dan pointed out, but you would need to again eliminate the DB grills, upper Mars light, ditchlights and AC units.

So basicly we need Kato to smash together all 3 versions of the F40PH shell that they have made.

[u18b]

Guys, I admit it is possible this thing in the box is a SLRG SD90MAC.

But consider this....

There is no way the angle of the nose stripes on THIS...




match THIS on the nose in the box...


In my humble opinion of course.

[Ian MacMillan]

I can clearly see the word "Rio" through the bubble wrap.

I just want to pop the bubble wrap...

[mu26aeh]

I can clearly see the word "Rio" through the bubble wrap.

Plus you can read CIT just in front of the Metra coupler