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jnevis

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Dome business car?
« on: October 07, 2012, 04:28:35 PM »
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I was wandering around the "paintshop" site and they have a PS Domed business car drawing.  Is that something that was actually built or just something someone made up?  It looks like a CZ dome coach with the end platform of the Kato business car.

http://paintshop.railfan.net/images/moldover/p-s_sl_dome_business.html
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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 05:53:39 PM »
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I'm not sure about the drawing, as it looks like an ACF dome....but I do know that the "Sierra Hotel" from a former CZ dome-lounge is real:
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 06:50:21 PM »
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Interesting as I just finished a kitbash of Sierra Hotel. It left Chicago yesterday on the end of the Empire Builder.

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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2012, 06:51:32 PM »
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The Paintshoip drawing is based on the PS dome design but it has no basis in reality.  Nor has any railroad taken a dome car and rebuilt it as a business car.  Private owners, on the other hand, have done a good bit in regards to such rebuildings, with the results being quite interesting as the photo of Sierra Hotel above shows.

Other cars include the following:

AOEX's Glacier Park (formerly Northern Railcar Northern View, now Creative Charters Warren R. Henry) originally was a UP dome - lounge observation...
http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=52550
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?200403171225302506.jpg
http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=217290
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23711298@N07/3910828183

Quad Graphics Silver Chalet (ex-AMTK 9812, exx-CB&Q 252, nee-WP 831) rebuilt to an open-platform observation...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/streetcarbrad/3357760191/
http://condrenrails.com/WSOR/Quad-Graphics/WSOR-3808-11-4-06-8.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53192745@N05/5292164429

Rail Ventures Bella Vista was originally UP 9006 dome - lounge observation...
http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=45687
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?april05/04-30-05/railventures_2122005.jpg
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?may09/05-17-09/Rail_Ventures_Bella_Vista.San_Luis_Obispo.Ca_2009_May_02_142.jpg

There are more, some retaining their original appearance while others have received alterations but not the open-platform as shown on the cars above.  More can be found on the Private Varnish pages of the Passenger Car Photo Index.

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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 07:38:58 PM »
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Thanks guys.
I'm trying to decide of I want to build up a freelanced road and I was playing with the drawings on engines and maybe a couple busines cars.  Maybe a diner and dome/obs but this looks interesting too.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 09:00:09 PM »
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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 09:05:49 PM »
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Hi
The Susquehanna's Popemobile is a former UP dome car.  I have a Kato C.O.L.A dome obs that is a dead ringer apart from the rear window glass, and that will change one day.

Also, I have seen a photo of a GB&W business car that is similar looking to the Susquehanna one, but the photo was at a narrow angle, so can't identify much from it.

Awesome work Skytop, great looking car.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 10:59:11 PM »
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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 01:12:30 AM »
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The BN rebuilt one of the GN's Great Dome Lounge cars as an inspection car, with one entire end replaced with a glass window and theater-style seating.  Not a traditional business car, but it was used for company business, and probably for sales trips with potential customers as well.

Owner:   Burlington Northern
Type:   Business Car
AAR Class:   PS: Company service car, including office cars, instruction cars, display cars, etc.
AAR Type:   M530
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http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=284383

Title:     BN Glacier
Description:     Smile! BN mini passenger train from Galesburg - Galesburg railroad days
Photo Date:     1/1/1990  Upload Date: 2/4/2006 8:34:33 PM
Location:     Cameron, IL
Author:     Jim Matuska
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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 07:53:12 AM »
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Quote from: nkalanaga on October 08, 2012, 01:12:30 AM
The BN rebuilt one of the GN's Great Dome Lounge cars as an inspection car....


Sacrilege!!!  :(
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Re: Dome business car?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 08:43:46 AM »
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I've seen pics of the Glacier in BNSF silver.  I keep eyeing my ConCor bi-level to make a couple of their other business cars but not sure how to make the decals.
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