Seaboard Central 2.0

[davefoxx]

Aha!  Someone else understands!  This is why I want both my N scale layouts in the same room, and I'd rather they have their own space.

[davefoxx]

I am really jonesing for my first IM SD40-2 with DCC and sound (SCL in the Family Lines scheme) to be released in the second batch, after watching those who have received units in the first batch having fun.  In the meantime, I'm really enjoying my BLI E-units, which have been running much more reliably since I eliminated the traction tires.  They do like clean track, though.  Today, I tweaked some sound settings and played with DCC consisting.

Oh, and, within the last twenty-four hours, I ordered a MicroTrains ACL express reefer and three Walthers 10-6 sleepers (2- ACL and 1-PRR) to improve the consist of my ACL passenger train.

DFF

[davefoxx]

The consist of my ACL Florida train is growing!

It now includes:
ACL E7 #524
ACL E6 #505
ACL Express Reefer #3042
PRR Express Baggage Car #6016
ACL Express Baggage Car #1624
ACL 4-4-2 Sleeper "Manatee River"
ACL 10-6 sleeper
NYC 10-1-2 heavyweight sleeper
ACL 10-6 sleeper
PRR 10-6 sleeper

Much better, but, at a minimum, I still need a diner!

DFF

[Philip H]

Looks like you forgot a lounge observation too.

Needs more cowbell!

[Ed Kapuscinski]

If you need some VERY long term leased FEC coaches or sleepers, I have two of each that I would love to see get some running time.

[Sokramiketes]

The consist of my ACL Florida train is growing!

It now includes:
ACL E7 #524
ACL E6 #505
ACL Express Reefer #3042
PRR Express Baggage Car #6016
ACL Express Baggage Car #1624
ACL 4-4-2 Sleeper "Manatee River"
ACL 10-6 sleeper
NYC 10-1-2 heavyweight sleeper
ACL 10-6 sleeper
PRR 10-6 sleeper

Much better, but, at a minimum, I still need a diner!

DFF

Is this the Southwind?  If so, the Kato BL articulated diner is what I'm using. 

[seusscaboose]

If you need some VERY long term leased FEC coaches or sleepers, I have two of each that I would love to see get some running time.

I have an interchange track you could send them through

[davefoxx]

Is this the Southwind?  If so, the Kato BL articulated diner is what I'm using.

@Sokramiketes,

I haven't decided which Florida train this is yet, although it's become a Pullman only train, because I have no coaches.  Did the PRR articulated diner ever go south?  I haven't seen evidence of that, but would love for that to be true.  Most of the time, it appears that ACL diners were used, but, since no one makes a good quality N scale diner for the ACL, I need alternatives.

Thanks,
DFF

[davefoxx]

I have an interchange track you could send them through

@seusscaboose,

That would be awesome.  I hesitated to bring them last weekend, because the BLI E units are very sensitive to dirty track.  No offense intended there, but I know what a chore it would be to try to keep all of the track clean on your monster layout. 

DFF

[Sokramiketes]

@Sokramiketes,

I haven't decided which Florida train this is yet, although it's become a Pullman only train, because I have no coaches.  Did the PRR articulated diner ever go south?  I haven't seen evidence of that, but would love for that to be true.  Most of the time, it appears that ACL diners were used, but, since no one makes a good quality N scale diner for the ACL, I need alternatives.

Thanks,
DFF

Here's the Winter Season 1964/65 update, which shows the outgoing fall consist and upcoming winter consist from http://pennsyrr.com/kc/passops/downloads/641025_consists.pdf

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So yes, twin unit diners were assigned.  I forget how many different twin-unit diners style the PRR had, but certainly they wouldn't have been provided by ACL?  So my brief research at the time lead me to the Kato Broadway Limited set as the most likely model to use. 

I love these consists.  The notes about the dome sleeper are rented North Coast Limited cars from the NP, down there for the winter off season.  The lounges are probably PRR, while the 10-6 could have been ACL.  4-4-2's from other consists could have been either railroad.  Coaches the same.  CCS did ACL coaches that can be mixed with PRR ones.  Purple baggage seemed to outlast any of the purple Pullmans.

The 4-4-5-1's are the only real issue.

[chessie system fan]

ACL had twin unit diners.  If I remember right, they were C&O-style cars from that road's massive canceled order. 

[Sokramiketes]

ACL had twin unit diners.  If I remember right, they were C&O-style cars from that road's massive canceled order.

Ahhh, were they assigned to the South Wind?  Or available?

Larry Shankles posted this reference to an actual 1964 South Wind consist:

In the book "Atlantic Coast Line Passenger Service The Postwar Years" a consist dated 12/22/1964 is PRR E7A 5903, PRR E8A 5765, PRR E8A 5887, ACL bag 150, PRR 10-6 sleeper Kaskaskia Rapids, PRR 4-4-2 sleeper Imperial Hills, NP 4-4-4 dome sleeper 313, PRR 6dbr-lounge Alder Falls, PRR dining room car 4610, PRR kitchen-dorm 4611, ACL 5-1-4-4 sleeper Gardenia. ACL 5-1-4-4 sleeper Camellia (Chi-Sarasota), L&N 5-1-4-4 sleeper Florida Traveler (Chi-St. Petersburg), PRR 10-6 sleeper Stoney Rapids (Chi-Jacksonville), ACL coaches 217 (Chi-St. Petersburg) and 239 (Chi-Sarasota), PRR coach-bar-lounge 1151, PRR coach 4055, and RF&P coach 809. All cars Chicago-Miami unless otherwise noted.

So that is a Budd set from the PRR, but assume any of their sets could have been in the pool.

[seusscaboose]

@seusscaboose,

That would be awesome.  I hesitated to bring them last weekend, because the BLI E units are very sensitive to dirty track.  No offense intended there, but I know what a chore it would be to try to keep all of the track clean on your monster layout. 

DFF

Dirty track not as much an issue anymore

Track cleaning train is handling that

[davefoxx]

Ahhh, were they assigned to the South Wind?  Or available?

Larry Shankles posted this reference to an actual 1964 South Wind consist:

In the book "Atlantic Coast Line Passenger Service The Postwar Years" a consist dated 12/22/1964 is PRR E7A 5903, PRR E8A 5765, PRR E8A 5887, ACL bag 150, PRR 10-6 sleeper Kaskaskia Rapids, PRR 4-4-2 sleeper Imperial Hills, NP 4-4-4 dome sleeper 313, PRR 6dbr-lounge Alder Falls, PRR dining room car 4610, PRR kitchen-dorm 4611, ACL 5-1-4-4 sleeper Gardenia. ACL 5-1-4-4 sleeper Camellia (Chi-Sarasota), L&N 5-1-4-4 sleeper Florida Traveler (Chi-St. Petersburg), PRR 10-6 sleeper Stoney Rapids (Chi-Jacksonville), ACL coaches 217 (Chi-St. Petersburg) and 239 (Chi-Sarasota), PRR coach-bar-lounge 1151, PRR coach 4055, and RF&P coach 809. All cars Chicago-Miami unless otherwise noted.

So that is a Budd set from the PRR, but assume any of their sets could have been in the pool.

Aha!  I forgot that the South Wind is a train out of Chicago.  My Florida train is to represent the trains that ran along the ACL-RF&P-PRR between New York and Florida.  It would be interesting to see if any those PRR twin-unit diners were used on those East Coast trains.

DFF

[Frisco Larry]

As far as diners on the east coast trains go; train 1 Florida Special 1/2/1961, had FEC diner Fort Ribault
train 88 Florida Special 12/21/1964 had ACL diner LaGrange, twin unit diner only (as rec car) Winter haven and ACL diner Orlando
train 2 East Coast Champion 5/4/1963 had ACL diner New York
train 1 East Coast Champion 12/4/1964 had ACL diner Naples
train 92 West Coast Champion 5/9/1963 had ACL twin unit diner 126(kitchen)/Winter Haven(diner)