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[davefoxx]

I'll just box in the I-beam, like it was done in the rest of the basement.  I'll only lose 1/2" of ceiling height under the I-beam, and I'll then have a nice place to install the wall angle for the drop ceiling grid on each side of the I-beam.

DFF

[Chris333]

Drywall scares the crap out of me. I'd install my own furnace and AC, but would have to hire someone to smooth drywall. 

[davefoxx]

I'm actually not too bad at drywall work.  You wouldn't want to pay me by the hour, but I can usually make it look as good as most professionals.

Just the other day, I was thinking about if I installed all of the drywall sheets vertically, then I would only have seams that meet at the tapered edges of the sheets, which are much easier to mud and finish.  In other words, I would avoid a lot of seams where the non-tapered edges would meet.

DFF

[Ed Kapuscinski]

And for god's sake man, remember to cover the layout (or move it elsewhere) while doing construction!

[C855B]

... if I installed all of the drywall sheets vertically, then I would only have seams that meet at the tapered edges of the sheets, which are much easier to mud and finish.  In other words, I would avoid a lot of seams where the non-tapered edges would meet.

Yes! That's how it works normally in residential (8' ceiling) applications. Don't use how we did it at the GC&W as an example - the high ceilings dictated stacking sheets with horizontal seams in a running bond placement. I could have "insisted" on using 4x12 sheets vertically, but they are very difficult to handle. I would have had to pay for three guys instead of two, and still probably would have lost three or four sheets in the process.

Also, don't discount sponging seams smooth to keep the dust to a minimum. You'll have to sand some, but the pros don't sponge only because it takes more time. Lord knows, a lawyer's time comes pretty cheap.

[conrail98]

Just the other day, I was thinking about if I installed all of the drywall sheets vertically, then I would only have seams that meet at the tapered edges of the sheets, which are much easier to mud and finish.  In other words, I would avoid a lot of seams where the non-tapered edges would meet.

DFF

One of our layouts in the area that just got operational, this is how they drywalled the basement. It went quick, they just had to cut it down from the 8' that it was to fit his basement. Two guys hung it up in one night,

Phil

[davefoxx]

And for god's sake man, remember to cover the layout (or move it elsewhere) while doing construction!

Yeah, see my previous post from yesterday afternoon.  I'm probably going to disassemble the layout and move it out during the worst of the mess, but . . . (go to next post).

[davefoxx]

Also, don't discount sponging seams smooth to keep the dust to a minimum. You'll have to sand some, but the pros don't sponge only because it takes more time. Lord knows, a lawyer's time comes pretty cheap.

Haha!  I built a closet in my wife's townhouse that we sold in 2012.  I'm pretty good with a trowel to minimize the amount of finishing necessary.  I sponged those joints, because it does avoid a lot of mess.  I also had no option of clearing out her master bedroom, so dust was not permissible.  Works great!

DFF

[davefoxx]

One of our layouts in the area that just got operational, this is how they drywalled the basement. It went quick, they just had to cut it down from the 8' that it was to fit his basement. Two guys hung it up in one night,

Phil

And that's an easy 4' cut and snap.  Glad to hear this has worked out for others, because it will make the installation and finishing much easier.

DFF

[basementcalling]

I'm actually not too bad at drywall work.  You wouldn't want to pay me by the hour, but I can usually make it look as good as most professionals.

Just the other day, I was thinking about if I installed all of the drywall sheets vertically, then I would only have seams that meet at the tapered edges of the sheets, which are much easier to mud and finish.  In other words, I would avoid a lot of seams where the non-tapered edges would meet.

DFF

Why would you want to have a seam ever 3/4 inch? Wouldn't that be extremely wasteful of material, and cutting the drywall panels into strips would create more dust than sanding a seam every 4 or 8 feet apart? My basement was finished when I bought the house, so I have a 19x 20 train room with separate small full bath and a studded out laundry room that now includes a huge workbench. That was the first improvement I made after I moved in, but I have no idea how you would hang drywall sheets from the ceiling joists in a vertical orientation. Having a finished space to work in definitely makes working on the layout more enjoyable. So does my laminate floor. Much better than carpet for a layout space.


 Obviously I am misunderstanding something about what you mean by vertical installation.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

And, you know, if you need some assistance, I'm happy to help. Never done drywall before, but I'm curious to learn.

[davefoxx]

Why would you want to have a seam ever 3/4 inch? Wouldn't that be extremely wasteful of material, and cutting the drywall panels into strips would create more dust than sanding a seam every 4 or 8 feet apart? . . . I have no idea how you would hang drywall sheets from the ceiling joists in a vertical orientation. Having a finished space to work in definitely makes working on the layout more enjoyable. So does my laminate floor. Much better than carpet for a layout space.


 Obviously I am misunderstanding something about what you mean by vertical installation.

Vertical installation on the walls (think 4'x8' panels standing up), which puts the seams at every four feet and no horizontal seam.  I'm not sure where you got seams every 3/4" from my previous post.   The only cut on most sheets would be to cut the 8' sheet down to the ceiling height of the room (less a 1/2" or so at the bottom to keep it off the concrete floor).  Scoring and snapping straight cuts makes minimal dust.  The ceiling will be a grid and ceiling tiles.  I agree on the flooring, and I'm considering inexpensive commercial carpeting.

DFF

[davefoxx]

And, you know, if you need some assistance, I'm happy to help. Never done drywall before, but I'm curious to learn.

I'm not sure that I'm a good teacher, but more hands can be helpful when fumbling with 4'x8' sheets of drywall.  Thanks for the offer!

DFF

[svedblen]

Vertical installation on the walls (think 4'x8' panels standing up), which puts the seams at every four feet and no horizontal seam.

Yes. So why ever do a horizontal installation? Here drywall is always mounted vertically. I am seriously curious and really want to learn, which are the benefits of a horizonatl installation?

[davefoxx]

Yes. So why ever do a horizontal installation? Here drywall is always mounted vertically. I am seriously curious and really want to learn, which are the benefits of a horizonatl installation?

My understanding always was that by tying more framing members together on a single sheet, it makes for a stronger wall.  Going horizontal would tie seven wall studs together, as opposed to only four studs by going vertical.  And, if you stagger the sheets, you're tying more of the wall together.  However, I'm not too concerned about that on a non-load bearing interior basement wall.   

DFF