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daniel_leavitt2000

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really SMALL chain?
« on: October 11, 2011, 06:55:26 PM »
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Anyone know what would work for REALY SMALL chain in N scale? I need something that scales to less than an inch in width. I can also use something that resembles metal cable.

The cable/chain will be very visible on a vehicle model I am working on.
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 08:06:08 PM »
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40 link.....





I believe there is a thread on Railwire about this topic with some options.. I use ship builders chain
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 02:35:45 AM »
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Check out this link to the GHQ forum.

http://www.ghqmodels.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3334
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 09:59:29 AM »
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Athabasca Scale Shops has an etched fret of different chain.

http://www.athabascashops.com/

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 10:56:55 AM »
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The chain I have used is A Line

www.ppw-aline.com
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 12:48:03 PM »
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Traincat has 72 lpi etched brass chain - a bit over 2" per link in N, so probably still too large for you.  Here's a sample on a spine car (under the hitch in the pic):

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/65TuhJX70h69PTR73coVSk6vECeBn5jhuHvdW7DdDzI?feat=directlink

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 03:00:44 PM »
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Not a very close-up image but I used the GHQ technique that  Hegstad  referred to above which involves crimping soft brass wire for the chains that hold up the canopies on this apartment building.  Unless you use an Optivisor the effect is quite convincing.  I bought the brass wire at a craft store.

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 03:38:10 PM »
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Wouldn't 72 links per inch scale out to a link 2.2 inches long, which could then be about 0.7 to 1.0 inches wide?

Smallest real chain I have seen is 40 links per inch.

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 04:01:26 PM »
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I've used flexible beading needles to create the effect of chain. This is just very fine stainless steel wire twisted tightly.



I have no idea how many links-per-inch it represents, since it's not really chain, but I think it does a decent job of simulating chain if you don't study it under a macro lens for too long.

That's a Z scale truck, by the way.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 04:08:09 PM by David K. Smith »

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 04:34:17 PM »
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Ahh that looks just about right. Where do you get these needles?
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 05:14:55 PM »
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Ahh that looks just about right. Where do you get these needles?

Craft stores, like Michael's, in the beading section.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 05:17:19 PM by David K. Smith »

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 05:16:11 PM »
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Those craft stores also carry quite a bit of different size chains for making jewelry.

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 09:11:21 PM »
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TrainCat has 52 link per inch chain under its Detail Parts heading, a bargain at $3.95 a real foot.
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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 09:38:13 PM »
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The chain will be used between the lift bar and plow blate on my International R190 build.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/M636/TownofBethel_Sullivan_1969P182.jpg

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Re: really SMALL chain?
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 03:59:01 PM »
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You may want to look at some of the 1/350 etched brass fittings kits reviewed on SteelNavy or Modelwarship.com.  http://www.steelnavy.com/ReviewsPE350.htm  Most of the ships have chain as
part of the kit and I belive there are a few etchings that have lots of chain on them.  I've used this scale chain before and it looks pretty good.   Also, PitRoad, a Japanese 1/700 scale ship model company has these accessory sets for different nations.  Has all sorts of weapons systems and detail parts molded in.  The injection molded ships chain in these sets are very detailed and look great in 1/160 for what you are doing.

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/sms/yavuz/700-nnt/yavuz-pe-01.jpg  Here is a shot of some photo etched included in an NNT brand ship kit.  These were etched by Eduard and I belive if you look on their site, you can get the frets seperate from the kit.  http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/sms/yavuz/700-nnt/yavuz.html

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