ESMC G26 Plain Keystone. Cancelled-Cancelled or Cancelled-Postponed?

[wcfn100]

Bryan, with what I learned when looking at the x-58's, it's pretty clear as a late 60's modeler, I need any PRR in the Plain Keystone.   I went to your site (which doesn't work in Chrome btw) to see when that scheme might be coming and I saw that it was cancelled.

Is there a chance this will be done in the future?  I realize that the Plain KS without Pennsylvania written out doesn't pass the shiny object criteria that N scaler's have, but as a prototype model, it's needed.  Maybe artwork for a decal at least?

I fear I'll have the same issue with BLMA's gondola


Jason

[bbussey]

Jason,

There's always a chance, but for now it's canceled and not postponed.  There weren't enough reservations to justify moving forward with another run, and there still is a sizable amount of cars in stock from the first two runs.  When the quantities drop low enough to warrant a re-run, the PK scheme probably will be thrown in.  But at the rate the cars are moving, that won't be anytime soon.

I don't think Craig is having a stock-surplus issue with his gons.  There are a lot of popular schemes remaining to be released on that model (DL&W and EL come to mind) that a Pennsy PK scheme is a near-certainty in the future.

If I decide to move forward on some of these PRR-specific gons in FUD, that may be a way to fill some of your roster spots as well.  First step is to determine if FUD is a viable process.  The White Tower will go a long way toward proving that.
 

[wcfn100]

Thanks.

Jason

[sirenwerks]

FWIW, I had only bought one of the gons, a LV that was recently destroyed by my cat and will need to be replaced, because I was waiting for the later PRR scheme. This is clearly a case of era discrimination.

[wcfn100]

There are a lot of popular schemes remaining to be released on that model (DL&W and EL come to mind) that a Pennsy PK scheme is a near-certainty in the future.

Looking at the Tangent site, I guess I can hope they are in the next run.



I'm not a PRR guy and I think that's hot.

Maybe we can get Lee to do  Laurel Valley special run on the G26 and the PK can tag along. 

Jason

[bbussey]

Maybe we can get Lee to do  Laurel Valley special run on the G26 and the PK can tag along. 

Only if he's willing to do an 800-piece run. 

FWIW, I had only bought one of the gons, a LV that was recently destroyed by my cat and will need to be replaced, because I was waiting for the later PRR scheme. This is clearly a case of era discrimination.

Well, the prototype was built in the 1930s, ridden hard and put away wet.  Not too many of the base class and the A class survived into the 1970s in original form.  Two of the base class made it to PC, one to CR.  The overwhelming majority were rebuilt into the C class, which survived into the early 1980s.  And, as an aside, on the base class cars that weren't rebuilt into the C class, the overwhelming majority of those remained in their original CK scheme.  So it is very prototypical to be running CK scheme G26 class gons throughout the 1960s, as long as you weather the snot out of them.

The good news is, you can still get an LV replacement if desired.  The bad new is, the Lehighs were retired in the early 1960s.

[sirenwerks]

As nutty as I am about details, I gave up on the idea of a layout that features time frame or location exactness, so there's wiggle room for that car to appear and, yes, the plan was to heavily weather it.

[wazzou]

OK, help me out here. 
I obviously don't model the Pennsy, however modeling the Northern Pacific and loosely subscribing to the every train on rails had a percentage of Pennsylvania rolling stock, which of the BLMA Pennsylvania Gons is more likely to be around, painted in that scheme and commonly reaching the West Coast between 1966-1969?

This one...


or this one?

[wcfn100]

OK, help me out here. 
I obviously don't model the Pennsy, however modeling the Northern Pacific and loosely subscribing to the every train on rails had a percentage of Pennsylvania rolling stock, which of the BLMA Pennsylvania Gons is more likely to be around, painted in that scheme and commonly reaching the West Coast between 1966-1969?

Neither.  It'd be the Tangent model I posted. Since Craig is working with Tangent, I hope to see that scheme on the next release.


Here's a couple in '68

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=69305

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=69306

And '70.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1019061

edit: Here's a Shadow Keystone from the 70's.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr389450wba.jpg


Notice that the reporting marks font is different than the BLMA model.  This happened in the early 60's form  a short while.


Jason

[bbussey]

Agreed, on the 52' footers that the PK scheme would be dominant in the late 1960s with some SK sprinkled in.  I don't know why the early mill gons never got repainted en masse.  Possibly because they were working almost continuously throughout their time of service.

[wazzou]

So, Jason and Bryan...both of the BLMA schemes would have already been painted into the schemes that Jason linked photos in by the mid-late sixties?

[bbussey]

You could get away with the SK scheme, but you would have to weather it noticeably.  Not distressed necessarily, but it would be very dirty as depicted in the last link Jason posted.

[wcfn100]

I'd go with what Bryan wrote with the caveat that the reporting marks did change with the Shadow Keystone in the early 60's.


There's of course exceptions.  You can find plenty of SK schemes on cars in the 60's.  The CK is a bit harder to find.  But If you wanted a 'rule'.  The PK is probably the best starting point.




Jason

[wazzou]

No wonder that railroad went broke.  They spent all of their money on paint.

[wcfn100]

No wonder that railroad went broke.  They spent all of their money on paint.

LOL, from the RR that didn't think 36" and 48" heralds were big enough. 


Jason