Atlas Jan Announcements

[Bob Bufkin]

Well now, I always thought that who ever has the most toys "WINS" ;D

[oakcreekco]

Manufacturers "do" what they think that they have to do, to bring products to the market. It's easy to second guess them.

They will "adjust" whatever is needed, if products don't sell as well as their forecasting numbers.

That being said, I'll be buying very few $150MSRP engines from ANYONE. I have plenty, actually too many now, but there's always that urge to buy more...................but at this latest pricing, I'm a passing.

[CBQ Fan]

Maybe they should stop making as many runs of these little unknown railroads or charge a price more appropriate for these small market locos and keep the prices on the more mainstream locos in line.  You don't go to the local car dealer and pay an average price for any car you want to buy.

[FrankCampagna]

Maybe they should stop making as many runs of these little unknown railroads or charge a price more appropriate for these small market locos and keep the prices on the more mainstream locos in line.  You don't go to the local car dealer and pay an average price for any car you want to buy.

 :

Frank

[MichaelWinicki]

Maybe they should stop making as many runs of these little unknown railroads or charge a price more appropriate for these small market locos and keep the prices on the more mainstream locos in line.  You don't go to the local car dealer and pay an average price for any car you want to buy.

We don't have the privilege of seeing the sale's figures for various roads.  Heck for all we know, the smaller roads could be getting a disproportionate amount of the sales because of their collect-ability factor. 

And would the elimination of the smaller runs change the overall size of the "run" of locos all that much?

It's my feeling that the size of runs is decreasing– A lot.  And that's why the average pricing is spiking.  Fewer locos in the run to amortize the cost over.

[m301]

Maybe they should stop making as many runs of these little unknown railroads or charge a price more appropriate for these small market locos and keep the prices on the more mainstream locos in line.  You don't go to the local car dealer and pay an average price for any car you want to buy.

  They did make the MP-15 in every possible railroad they could, but re run popular roads? Nah.

Marty

[sizemore]

I am surprised at the sale price for this: http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Life-Like-N-433-7781-0-6-0-Saddle-Tank-Steam-Loco-p/433-7781.htm

Flame on!
The S.

[sizemore]

The C40-8W was a lot more expensive than all the other models when they came out to begin with.

Ding Ding Ding! Winnah Winnah Chicken Dinnah! When these first came out everyone griped over the price, but were not quantitatively looking at the model individually. The Dash-8's are leeps over the GP-9's, 30/35's, 40's... You get a bit of free standing installed grabs on those Dash-8's, outside of inflation/oil costs thats where you get a lot of the added cost compared to the other "Master Line" stuff. Look at the Trainman line GP-15, thats a locomotive I'd say is OVERPRICED (but affordable). I think thats where our gripe is really lies in the affordability of the model; now we or the "accumulators" can't buy two or three of these higher priced peices.

Eitherway China is about to have it's own troubles in the labor world, and we'll see things move to other smaller countries (Middle East/South Asia) and maybe even back to our shores.

The S.

[Blazeman]

I wonder where things will be made if the situations in China (labor pressing for more consumer products and wages to buy them, other countries pushing them to let their currency float, energy, higher costs due to pollution controls being forced on manufacturers) drive that work away?

It certainly will level the playing field, but regardless, it will make prices rise. And how long will it take for production to get set up somewhere else?

Who knows, maybe the work will migrate back to eastern Europe where a lot of N was first produced?

The biggest problem  (cost and supply) as I see it is supply of track. Ponder on that one.

[wm3798]

Isn't one of the problems of moving production out of China the fact that they just about take ownership of tooling and other capital in these "partnerships"?

Lee

[wazzou]

Isn't one of the problems of moving production out of China the fact that they just about take ownership of tooling and other capital in these "partnerships"?

Lee

I have heard that they definitely have a stake in the tooling.

[Puddington]

I have heard that they definitely have a stake in the tooling.

Ok; US Army Ranger's; Force Recon; Delta Force; SEAL's; SAS; JTF2... we'll send em all...HALO jump; in, get the tooling, out...120 seconds.... stealth swamp boats out to a Fast attack sub, "boom".... tooling home to good ol North America in days....nothin to it folks..... maybe have President Obama add it to the current negotiations with their preimer...?.....nah; let's go with plan one ! ;D

[sizemore]

Ok; US Army Ranger's; Force Recon; Delta Force; SEAL's; SAS; JTF2... we'll send em all...HALO jump; in, get the tooling, out...120 seconds.... stealth swamp boats out to a Fast attack sub, "boom".... tooling home to good ol North America in days....nothin to it folks..... maybe have President Obama add it to the current negotiations with their preimer...?.....nah; let's go with plan one ! ;D

I'm thinking A-Team and Airwolf. Nobody will get killed, but the mission will still be accomplished.

The S.

[SirTainly]

I wonder where things will be made if the situations in China (labor pressing for more consumer products and wages to buy them, other countries pushing them to let their currency float, energy, higher costs due to pollution controls being forced on manufacturers) drive that work away?

It certainly will level the playing field, but regardless, it will make prices rise. And how long will it take for production to get set up somewhere else?

Who knows, maybe the work will migrate back to eastern Europe where a lot of N was first produced?

The biggest problem  (cost and supply) as I see it is supply of track. Ponder on that one.

I'd be looking at Africa as the next source of cheap labour as I know the Chinese have been looking at outsourcing work / setting up factories there.

[Mark5]

I'm thinking A-Team and Airwolf. Nobody will get killed, but the mission will still be accomplished.

The S.

Plus, several hundred rounds of ammo can be fired - with no fatalities!