a railroad you can model

[RockGp40]

But its such a perdy powder-blue SD38...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2073890

I wonder if this train will be required to have PTC....  :


j/k

[DKS]

http://1photoblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/kirby-cumberland-mine-railroad-pennsylvania.jpg

IMO, you'd need to be easily amused to build this. I mean, even as a confessed roundy-rounder myself, I'd find this b-o-r-i-n-g.

is it more boring than an HOn3 logger?  it's pure railroading.  load em, move, empty em, run em back.

A lot of this has to do with character. Look at that photo. Yawn. A logging railroad may have the same basic operations, but it's got a lot more interesting things to see and do besides running a string of boring blue hoppers through a flood loader. Logging has quirky steamers. Flimsy trestles. Dramatic scenery. Plus other things to do besides move logs, like deliver equipment, supplies and even occasionally a little freight, a few passengers and some mail for those distant camp towns. At least to me, a logging line is far more interesting; but whatever floats one's boat is the rule.

[sizemore]

http://1photoblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/kirby-cumberland-mine-railroad-pennsylvania.jpg

IMO, you'd need to be easily amused to build this. I mean, even as a confessed roundy-rounder myself, I'd find this b-o-r-i-n-g.

is it more boring than an HOn3 logger?  it's pure railroading.  load em, move, empty em, run em back.

BUT THEN YOU'RE JUST PLAYING WITH TRAINS.



The S.

[asciibaron]

i prefer 3 way coaling stations.

[FrankCampagna]

It amazes me how just about any subject can start an argument. Actually a neat railroad.

Frank

[Dave V]

So is this a hint that the current WM layout concept is possibly going bye-bye?

i can't make reference to other interesting things?

Of course you can. It just seemed like, well, you know...

...like just another day at the

?

[asciibaron]

It amazes me how just about any subject can start an argument. Actually a neat railroad.

too many seem to be tilting at windmills.

i think it's neat for a few reasons - it was built after 1967 (last Penn Pilot in 1967 does not show it), it has a massive hillside cut into the banks of the Ohio for the barge transload, it has no passing tracks - the only turnout not at the loader or unloader is a siding with MOW equipment on it.  no signaling, no dispatching, just running up to the mine and back.  

it is a perfect snapshot of many a first layout. 

[Mark5]

I wonder what kind of equipment they had in the late 1960s ...

[asciibaron]

I wonder what kind of equipment they had in the late 1960s ...

the line went into service in 1976.  they now have two SD38-2's - the USSX 1 built 12/75 and former Yankeetown Dock 22 built 12/78.  typically the 30 car train runs pull/pull with power on either end.  under USS, the coal was taken from the prep plant at Kirby to the transload near Girards Fort, barged up the river to Union's coal dock, put back in hoppers and taken via Union and B&LE to Connecut and then loaded into lake boats to go to Ontario Hydro.

[AlkemScaleModels]

There are several EBT based railroads that operate. I haven't tried them personally, but I never heard anyone that did say they found them boring.

I recall a few years back Noll Horan built a HO scale EBT module. I photographed it. It was extremely difficult to keep the cars on the rails. I am not sure why, but the small flanges, narrow track and big cars did not work well in his application.

[asciibaron]

There are several EBT based railroads that operate. I haven't tried them personally, but I never heard anyone that did say they found them boring.

i have operated an EBT layout in HOn3 several times and it has always been a challenge.  Peter and his wife have built a great layout that runs well.  the EBT is much more operationally diverse than the Cumberland Mine Railroad, but in the end, it to is a coal conveyor.  the neat thing about the EBT was the era modeled - there was still iron works, logging, and ganister for fire brick moving over the line, albeit, not nearly the volume of the black diamonds.

[lock4244]

the line went into service in 1976.  they now have two SD38-2's - the USSX 1 built 12/75 and former Yankeetown Dock 22 built 12/78.  typically the 30 car train runs pull/pull with power on either end.  under USS, the coal was taken from the prep plant at Kirby to the transload near Girards Fort, barged up the river to Union's coal dock, put back in hoppers and taken via Union and B&LE to Connecut and then loaded into lake boats to go to Ontario Hydro.

I hope they've got something else to do nowadays besides shipping coal to Ontario Hydro. Our illustrious 'leader' promised to close Ontario Hydro's coal generating stations (without bothering to replace the capacity they generate)  >

[Mark5]

I wonder what kind of equipment they had in the late 1960s ...

the line went into service in 1976.  they now have two SD38-2's - the USSX 1 built 12/75 and former Yankeetown Dock 22 built 12/78.  typically the 30 car train runs pull/pull with power on either end.  under USS, the coal was taken from the prep plant at Kirby to the transload near Girards Fort, barged up the river to Union's coal dock, put back in hoppers and taken via Union and B&LE to Connecut and then loaded into lake boats to go to Ontario Hydro.

I'm sorry. I meant the equipment they used to haul the coal. Hoppers? or did they just start with gons?

[asciibaron]

I'm sorry. I meant the equipment they used to haul the coal. Hoppers? or did they just start with gons?

they have always used a rotary dumper from what i can tell.  not sure of the vintage of the current cars

[NorfolkSouthern9708]

I can't say this would be a interesting railroad to model. One train. 30 or so coal cars. Boring. There's no reason for dispatching. No other trains. And the only train is one with coal. Don't get me wrong, coal hauling is cool and all, there's just no variety here.