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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2010, 12:10:29 AM »
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The problem with moving the bolsters outboard is...you would have to have 48" radius curves so that the trucks didn't hit the stirrups.  I think that is a compromise in our scale dating to the 9-3/4" era.

Are the stirrups that thick on the Atlas "90" ton hoppers?  Cause most coal porters have wheels that stick out past the end too:



And they run fine.

And the BLMA correct in every dimension trucks should be narrower anyway.

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2010, 12:57:55 AM »
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Well I don't own any of those 90/100T cars or really any older Atlas cars for that matter but the picture Mark posted does appear to have pretty close tolerances.  I am sure the stirrups could be filed but really the point is pretty moot.  I can't imagine the hassle of moving these bolsters on a car let alone a fleet.
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2010, 04:34:55 AM »
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And the BLMA correct in every dimension trucks should be narrower anyway.


They are  :)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 04:49:40 AM by Robbman »

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2010, 08:31:38 AM »
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2010, 01:39:12 PM »
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I understand Craig is planning that as a supplement to his new body-mount coupler line.  ::)

Ok, now I'm a pathological liar.  But cripe, he does owe it to us since he released such fine trucks w/o couplers.

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2010, 02:05:32 PM »
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I understand Craig is planning that as a supplement to his new body-mount coupler line.  ::)

Ok, now I'm a pathological liar.  But cripe, he does owe it to us since he released such fine trucks w/o couplers.

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2010, 02:29:14 PM »
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For fun, this weekend I'll pop these on the MT 100 ton hopper too. Pix and all. 8)

The purpose in this for me is to come up with a feasible plan for my fleet of hoppers.

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2010, 03:06:57 PM »
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I understand Craig is planning that as a supplement to his new body-mount coupler line.  ::)
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2010, 09:08:35 PM »
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....and body mount coupler adapters (for open/covered hoppers etc).
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2010, 02:27:08 PM »
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I think it would look even better if you moved the bolster closer to the ends like it's supposed to be!  Compare to the photo of 92000 that you posted.  

Upon review, I don't think the bolsters need to be moved.

see this:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/thumbs/photos/NW02646.jpg


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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2010, 03:37:22 PM »
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The only 100T hopper I can find drawings of:

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 08:11:30 AM »
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I think it would look even better if you moved the bolster closer to the ends like it's supposed to be!  Compare to the photo of 92000 that you posted.  

Upon review, I don't think the bolsters need to be moved.

see this:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/thumbs/photos/NW02646.jpg


Bolsters are in line with the last side stake on the H11s, and pretty much any other hopper out there. 

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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 10:59:15 AM »
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Ok, so referring back to the original shot, there appears to be quite a difference between the center of the BLMA and MT trucks.  Is that just due to the offset bolster hole in the MT's?  I didn't think it was that large.
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 11:45:32 AM »
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Just spin the trucks 180 degrees if there is an offset.
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Re: 100 Ton truck options for Atlas 100 ton open hopper
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2010, 11:48:09 AM »
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I think it would look even better if you moved the bolster closer to the ends like it's supposed to be!  Compare to the photo of 92000 that you posted.  

Upon review, I don't think the bolsters need to be moved.

see this:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/thumbs/photos/NW02646.jpg

Remember there are some optical illusions here because the truck sideframe is set back from the side of the car.  So you can't line up the bolster when the camera is at the middle of the car.  You need a shot centered on the sideframe instead.  Look at your original photo with the BLMA trucks and that the BLMA truck is inboard while the offset bolster hole in the MTL truck is helping its cause.