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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1965 on: May 27, 2016, 09:51:36 AM »
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The three tracks in front of the view block should include the river running along side it, with the view block being the ridge rising beyond the track.  You could put one of those ubiquitous river side fishing camps like the ones that speckle the line between Marysville and Newport.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1966 on: May 27, 2016, 09:56:16 AM »
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I've been thinking about that but I also want staging to be as reliable and as hands-off as possible, and I don't feel like the Atlas code 55 switches are that right now.  Peco curved turnouts have too broad a radius to be of much use.

EDIT:  Does anyone know more about the geometry of these guys?



Dave if you put out the call I wouldn't be surprised if one of the hand-laid track masters wouldn't built you a couple curved code 55 turnouts for a reasonable sum.

You'll come to appreciated the extra length.



 

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1967 on: May 27, 2016, 10:03:25 AM »
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^ Heh, that, and I don't believe that each yard track will be seven feet long without using curved turnouts.  The yard ladders will eat into the length of those tracks.  You might get seven feet on the first two tracks but not the others.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1968 on: May 27, 2016, 10:56:15 AM »
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Two thoughts about locomotive shops:

1. Don't make it part of the layout if it doesn't belong. Make it its own thing. Maybe a oNeTRAK module, maybe some TTRAK modules, maybe an actual NTRAK module, maybe just a lump of foam surrounded by some 1x4s. I'm betting you'd find it handy to have something transportable for things like the PRR T&HS event, shows, etc...

2. If you insist on making it part of the layout:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=424664
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/247859/
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/283009/
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/246818/



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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1969 on: May 27, 2016, 11:26:29 AM »
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Two thoughts about locomotive shops:

1. Don't make it part of the layout if it doesn't belong. Make it its own thing. Maybe a oNeTRAK module, maybe some TTRAK modules, maybe an actual NTRAK module, maybe just a lump of foam surrounded by some 1x4s. I'm betting you'd find it handy to have something transportable for things like the PRR T&HS event, shows, etc...

2. If you insist on making it part of the layout:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=424664
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/247859/
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/283009/
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/246818/

Just to be clear, in my previous posts, I'm really only talking about staging tracks for locomotives for @Dave Vollmer's situation, despite my use of the words, "shops."

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1970 on: May 27, 2016, 12:15:57 PM »
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I might need some handlaid curved code 55 turnouts for sure if I got this route.

I'm really not sure about this "shops" idea, with or without a building.

EDIT:  It sounds like the Atlas curved turnouts can be "tuned" to some degree...  Little jumper wires at the hinges and soldering the frog power directly to the frog.  Any ideas on the sloppy throwbar?
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1971 on: May 27, 2016, 12:51:05 PM »
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Then there's @Chris333's plan from page 103...   :trollface:


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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1972 on: May 27, 2016, 12:51:37 PM »
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Any ideas on the sloppy throwbar?

I've got 125 Atlas code 55 turnouts and I'm not sure what mayhem the sloppy throwbar is suppose to cause...

The Atlas design hasn't caused me any headaches.

Now I will say I've had two turnouts where one of the points "rode high" when pressed against the rail, but that was solved using a very, very small shim that M.C. suggested in one of his threads... If that's a throwbar issue then I've had two of them... and it's easy to fix.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1973 on: May 27, 2016, 12:58:21 PM »
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Chris did a great job on that!

But I personally think the present Enola configuration, even with extending the tracks a little is a lost cause for the exact reasons Dave has posted about previously... tracks too short for staging... and so on.

If you're going to have staging double-ended tracks are the way to go if possible.  Plus this plan recaptures the "cluttered" feel, even more so than having a small town where the Enola yard is.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1974 on: May 27, 2016, 01:00:03 PM »
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True enough.  I need run-through, not stub-end, staging.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1975 on: May 27, 2016, 02:06:35 PM »
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Also, just to manage expectations, no actual benchwork or tracklaying will happen until the Colorado Midland is fully operational and mostly scenicked.

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« Reply #1976 on: May 27, 2016, 02:25:26 PM »
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Also, just to manage expectations, no actual benchwork or tracklaying will happen until the Colorado Midland is fully operational and mostly scenicked.


Just make sure you update this thread.  :trollface:
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1977 on: May 27, 2016, 02:28:12 PM »
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Also, just to manage expectations, no actual benchwork or tracklaying will happen until the Colorado Midland is fully operational and mostly scenicked.

Why?

I understand this desire.


But you've gotta follow your heart. If you're in a PRR mood this week, do PRR stuff. When the CM fancy strikes, do CM!

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1978 on: May 27, 2016, 02:33:21 PM »
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I have enough Pennsy projects to satisfy the mood.  Besides, I want to have at least one finished N scale layout on hand at any given time... :)

In terms of Pennsy projects, besides rolling stock and motive power projects, now I get to build VIEW tower and Sherman's Creek bridge!

Thinking for the crossovers on the bridge I might go ME #6s because they have springs on the throws.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #1979 on: May 27, 2016, 02:42:50 PM »
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Thinking for the crossovers on the bridge I might go ME #6s because they have springs on the throws.

Do you have to do the crossovers on the bridge, or are you trying to replicate the prototype?

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