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H-21 Hopper is done.
« on: July 04, 2008, 03:53:42 PM »
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I got the decals from Roland the other day, and once again, he did a fantastic job producing them.  Here's the test bed car in more or less full dress...




I got a little over enthusiastic with the dull coat, but a little weathering will take care of that.  Now to start hacking up the rest of those NS fishbellies!

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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 06:25:36 PM »
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that's a weird looking hopper, got any proto photos to share?
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 01:54:55 AM »
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During the 1960's, WM had a program that rebuilt 55ton fishbellies into 66T cars at their shops at Elkins.  The main discrepency in the car I did here is the spacing between the hoppers...  They should be a little closer together.  Basically, they added two panels to lengthen the car, and modified the slope sheets.  It was still a two bay car.  I'm working out the details of how to more accurately represent that.
There were several classes based on the rebuild dates, H-21, H-24, H-27 and H-28.  Info and pictures are available in the WM Color Guide by Jack Brown.  The cars lasted well into the Chessie era, including many in Chessie paint.

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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 08:49:55 AM »
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Lee,

Nice work on the rebuilt hopper.  I bet trying to decal between all of those ribs wasn't that much fun and took a while.

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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 09:44:42 AM »
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Work looks clean. 8) Stinks that nobody had put pix online. :-\
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 11:30:12 AM »
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I laid out the artwork so the letters are spaced for the ribs.  Makes cutting them apart a lot easier.
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 12:28:43 PM »
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Lee,

I don't have the WM Color Guide, but I do have a copy of the Chessie System Color Guide to Freight Equipment.  On page 8 is an H-51 in Chessie paint.  This car looks real close to yours.  I'm not sure that the slope sheets look too modified, as the angles match up with your car.  Perhaps the difference could be in the actual bay itself, especially if the model's are undersized.  That is, the width of the bay is about 1-1/2 sheets, but on the model they only appear slightly more than one sheet wide.  If the bays were slightly modified by extending/enlarging the gates on the bay, the bays would appear closer together.  To me, however, you've fairly accurately captured the look of the rebuilt hoppers, so I'm not sure I would go to the trouble.  Good job.

Hope this helps,
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 12:59:28 PM »
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This highlights the lack of a good WM site online ...

The most WM hoppper photos I could find were here (probably to Lee's dismay!):

http://www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/html/Hoppers.html

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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 01:24:27 PM »
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Roland did do a nice job on the decals.  Too bad you couldn't put them on straight.  :P :-*
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 03:40:46 PM »
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I figured out how to fix the hopper bay spacing.  I had to make two more cuts in the metal underframe to separate the hoppers from the slope sheet/bolster assembly.  This makes the re-build a bit more labor intensive, but the results are more pleasing.

I've got another one built and painted, and will get out the calipers and microscope to make sure the lettering is applied to your satisfaction, there Sparky...  You have to remember, I build models to run in trains on my layout, not to sit around looking good for a photo, so what looks fine rolling down the track may be a little rough close up.  My goal is to build about 12 of these, two at a time.  There will be times when the boys in the paint shop get a little hasty with the stenciling!

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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 07:03:02 PM »
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Quote from: sparky on July 05, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
Roland did do a nice job on the decals.  Too bad you couldn't put them on straight.  :P :-*

I thought this was from skibbe there for a minute... ;D

Nice work, Lee.
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 10:58:06 PM »
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I completed the second car today, and it's a lot better than the first.  I also moved the hopper bays on both of them. 


The decaling is a little neater this time, but I'm still getting something of a "fat film" effect in the close ups.  The car looks fine under normal viewing conditions.

Here's the end markings.


Once again, a touch of weathering will help even things out a bit.  But overall, I'm really happy with the outcome of this project.  Just need to build 10 more!

Lee
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 11:56:56 PM »
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Quote from: tom mann on July 05, 2008, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: sparky on July 05, 2008, 01:24:27 PM
Roland did do a nice job on the decals.  Too bad you couldn't put them on straight.  :P :-*

I thought this was from skibbe there for a minute... ;D

Nice work, Lee.

I didn't even know I had a protege!
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 01:14:56 AM »
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Nice!!!
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Re: H-21 Hopper is done.
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 07:37:06 AM »
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You gotta paint that track .. Brah ..
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