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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 02:45:27 PM »
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The “Keystone Modeler”, a free online publication of the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical and Historical Society has a series of construction articles for PRR catenary.  Part one was in the September 2007 issue and part two was in the November 2007 issue.  A  third part is coming in the future.  The author of the article is in HO scale but all of his techniques apply to N as well.

Link to the September issue:

http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler_PDFs/TKM%20No.%2050%2009-07%20PDF.pdf

November issue:

http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler_PDFs/TKM%20No.%2052%2011-07%20PDF.pdf

Does anyone have these PDF's saved?  I noticed back issues are only available via CD from the society, guess they arn't using server space to hold the back issues for long.

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 02:47:11 PM »
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Mike,

I have them.  Send me an email to where you want the copies sent.
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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 02:49:18 PM »
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http://lists.keystone-pubs.org/

Looks like this link still has them.

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2011, 02:50:20 PM »
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Sommerfeldt makes plastic N scale catenary insulators.  They can be cut or stacked together as needed.  Euro Rail Hobbies is one importer.

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/eurorailhobbiesdetail.asp?pageid=&MN=24&CA=32&SC=N&stock=SOM-393

I didn't know about these, and they still are a stock item.  Might have to grab a few and store them away in preparation for my eventual catenary project.
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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2011, 04:26:10 PM »
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First a NEC Power Station then PRR Insulators . . . . Hmmm, I wonder what could be next   :?

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2011, 04:36:23 PM »
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What indeed?  :ashat:
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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2011, 04:47:38 PM »
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First a NEC Power Station then PRR Insulators . . . . Hmmm, I wonder what could be next   :?

You sell a power station?

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2011, 04:48:50 PM »
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My pants suddenly got tighter...   :trollface:

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2011, 05:24:27 PM »
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My pants suddenly got tighter...   :trollface:

just skip desert  :trollface:

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2011, 01:56:04 PM »
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just skip desert  :trollface:

That made me laugh-out-loud.

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2011, 06:21:51 PM »
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What's needed is a few plastic shapes that can be used in various configurations for the support - and designed to interface to the Somerfeldt catenary itself (not the structures).

Although this may not work - the supports may need to be metal. 

I built some Swiss/SBB catenary once with Somerfeldt stuff, and it is so strong that you could slice your hand open on it before it will give.  It's not at all fragile.

- Lou

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2011, 03:13:32 PM »
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OR...

I've thought about stringing a dummy trolley wire from the green E-Z Line from Berkshire Junction.  This picture shows what it looks like and how flexible it is.  I bought it for telegraph lines but it has the same oxidized copper color that PRR catenary does.



The thought of re-railing something under rigid cat makes me shudder.  Obviously you would lose the graceful sag of the suspension wire, but a single green trolley wire would look better to me than empty cat poles.  That is, unless modeling a Conrail or NS freight line post-1981.  :D

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2011, 10:17:52 PM »
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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2011, 10:42:55 PM »
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Wow, that stuff sure can stretch.  That'd be interesting to use on a little trolley layout I'm planning.  I'm just wondering how I can effectively guy it to make it turn around curves.

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Re: N Scale PRR catenary
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2011, 10:58:22 PM »
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I'm thinking about trying this, as my first photo-etch project went much better than expected. I could always draw on a computer, but never awoke to the possibilities with old photo-etch and other newer technologies such as 3D printing.

I fooled around with catenary in the mid 1970s with the Arnold GG-1. I got it to work in a laboratory setting, but realized it would be impossible to maintain, especially on double track, let along four tracks. And it was not prototypical--my best solution was an upside down plastic Y that clipped onto the supposed carrier wire and held two thin wires underneath--weird, but the two wires (each the same polarity) stabilized things a bit. But it looked weird.

The posts and bridges across tracks seem to be the easy part. It's the stringing between posts--the carrier wire and its supports--that are very problematical. I used the Y for the triangular stiffness.

If anyone else is working on this, please PM me so we don't duplicate efforts. I have plenty of other projects awaiting some attention.