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Umm, I don't think we're talking about the same cars (although I see I typed 50' instead of 40' in my original question). The old MDC REA express reefer does have ice hatches and is 50' long, but I'm talking about the new tooled for Athearn after they bought MDC milk car which doesn't have ice hatches and is 40' long. Here is a link from their page to one of the cars I'm talking about:[url]http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH11631[url]