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HandCab-DC
« on: November 09, 2024, 12:20:59 PM »
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Decided to try and make a ….



…. DC version of my HandCab (DCC) HandCab (DCC) shown above that is a WiFi throttle. This one will connect to the bayou with a tether wire. The controls wont be as advanced as the DCC HandCab since you can't do as much with a DC throttle as you can a DCC throttle. It won't have the display, keypad or most of the buttons. I do hope to experiment with horn and bell audio possibly.



As far as I am working on it using the non-commercial Fusion CAD program. About a good days work.



There is a two step pulley attached to the bottom of the $4.00 12v PWM DC controller. One step is connected to a brake pulley attached to the brake handle. The other step of the pulley is attached with a line to the throttle pulley/handle.



I made enough progress on the third day to test the concept and I'm fairly happy with it. Made changes to the above (see previous image) and need to do another print of the housing and the double pulley.  When the reverser handle is pulled to either side (fwd/rev) it trips the limit switches on that side and changes the track polarity. In the middle the track power is off and the loco won't move.

To be continued.....

A link to the DCC HandCab (modeled off a GP7/9 control stalk ( HERE ).

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2024, 03:53:09 PM »
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Continuing on.....



Modified the main housing some and other parts also. After printing most of the new pieces there will still be some small changes to a few of the parts but I'm able to use what was printed. The changes will be for any others that want to build the throttle.



Exploded view of the parts above. A lot of parts just to turn the pot shaft on the motor controller board. Need to finish the case now that I'm comfortable with how it works. So far I've printed everything with the resin printer but might switch to the filament printer for the main case parts.


Put up a demo of the project to this point ( HERE ).



Next I'll finish the wiring and hopefully the case also.

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A link to the DCC HandCab (modeled off a GP7/9 control stalk ( HERE ).

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2024, 12:09:46 PM »
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Really like this Sumner! I'm interested in using one on my under-construction Z scale layout.   

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2024, 12:42:32 PM »
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Took a detour from designing/printing parts for the HandCab-DC. Wanted to see if I could add some sound to this throttle. No it won't be in the loco but in the throttle in your hand so not the same but wanted to try it anyway. Let me know your thoughts on this.

I seem to end up trying to write code for an Arduino about every other year. Meaning I forget about all of the syntax for writing it. Know how I want the code to go but spend way to much time writing it so that it compiles. I was about ready to give up on this sound deal as I couldn't get the buttons to work and thought the sound wasn't all that good using the small speaker.


About 'give-up-time' I figured out how to use Audacity (sound recorder and editor) to create a decent .wav file that would play using the Arduino Nano. See video above ( HERE ). So now back to finishing up the rest of the case design and printing the rest of the case and finishing up the sound files for the throttle.

To be continued.....

A link to the DCC HandCab modeled off a GP7/9 control stalk ( HERE ).

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2024, 11:57:52 AM »
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Moving along and testing some sound options for the HandCab-DC throttle.  A a DC throttle that is handheld (not wireless/on a tether) that operates similar to a throttle an engineer would operate in a GP7 cab. No throttle knob here. You use throttle and brake levers and a reverser handle for forward and reverse.


Still quite a ways to go on the sound files which I've created by recording different YouTube videos of GP-7's that had the 567 diesel.  Further work has to be done on blending them as they transition from one to the other.  The bell, horn, prime mover startup to idle, idle to notch 4, notch 4 to idle and shutdown can all be controlled by the operator in any order. Sound will be able to go to a Bluetooth speaker (on/near the layout), a speaker in the throttle itself or hopefully to a boxcar just behind or near the engine.







Throttle looks complex but isn't too bad to build. Wire it in an afternoon. Total cost for the parts minus the case is under $30. I'll put the print files up for the case along with the sound files, a parts list and the build procedure as I move along on my website along with what is there now....

https://1fatgmc.com/RailRoad/DCC/page-37.html


I just finished printing all the parts so will try and get it together this week and hopefully be about done with the sound file editing.

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2024, 08:38:21 PM »
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Well an update that will have to do for this weekend and last weekend.

Been trying to get the HandCab-DC throttle to a place where I can consider it finished (mostly).  Not much progress that can be shown visually.  Been working on the final wiring configuration and rewriting a lot of the code for the Arduino Nano.  The actual motor controller that controls the motors speed is pretty darn simple and basically what I covered ( HERE ) with a simple cheap ($4.00) DC throttle that one can put together in short order.

The HandCab-DC puts that $4 motor controller in a throttle case that makes you control the loco more like ....



... how an engineer would control the speed and direction in a GP-7 cab.  Makes running the loco a lot more interesting vs. a simple knob control.

I've got probably over 25 hours in the past week and a half creating sound files for the throttle, changing the wiring and rewriting most of the code that controls the sound functions on the throttle.

You can see, mostly hear what/how it will work in ....


... the video above.

Hopefully the next update might be the throttle with all of the above in the throttle case and actually controlling a train.

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Re: HandCab-DC
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2024, 08:17:43 PM »
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Hopefully the final test of the HandCab-DC's (DC Throttle) electronics and Bluebottle option. The Bluetooth option will allow one to place a speaker in a boxcar that can be behind any DC loco for sound effects. The throttle also has a speaker.


Nothing too exciting here to watch but I think I'm finally near the end of this project so exciting for me ;).  Happy New Year everyone.

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