Author Topic: Who made this locomotive?  (Read 1155 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Kentuckian

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 890
  • Gender: Male
  • "This all started with Romans 10:9!" -Apologetix
  • Respect: +489
Modeling the C&O in Kentucky.

“Nature does not know extinction; all it knows is transformation. ... Everything science has taught me-and continues to teach me-strengthens my belief in the continuity of our spiritual existence after death. Nothing disappears without a trace.” Wernher von Braun

CR4100

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 144
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +276
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2020, 09:44:54 AM »
0
The same loco is listed here as a General Electric 92-ton. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5290675
The fabric of reality has begun to fray.

Kentuckian

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 890
  • Gender: Male
  • "This all started with Romans 10:9!" -Apologetix
  • Respect: +489
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2020, 09:56:15 AM »
0
Thanks. So is this like a 44 ton body on a longer and heavier frame?
Modeling the C&O in Kentucky.

“Nature does not know extinction; all it knows is transformation. ... Everything science has taught me-and continues to teach me-strengthens my belief in the continuity of our spiritual existence after death. Nothing disappears without a trace.” Wernher von Braun

CR4100

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 144
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +276
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2020, 11:30:52 AM »
0
Similar in design to the 44-tonner but newer.  I initially thought that it was a GE SL-series switcher but the trucks and cab shape are wrong. I found an old auction listing for similar loco which may give you a starting point for a search. https://www.aepsurplus.com/custom/auctionArchiveDetail.cfm?aID=3070
The fabric of reality has begun to fray.

Missaberoad

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 3483
  • Gender: Male
  • Ryan in Alberta
  • Respect: +1065
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2020, 02:40:45 PM »
0
I'd say it is a 1958-1973 production 100/110 ton switcher.

http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE%20100X-Tonners.HTML

old issues of x2200 south might have more information.
The Railwire is not your personal army.  :trollface:

wcfn100

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 8813
  • Respect: +1154
    • Chicago Great Western Modeler
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2020, 04:22:01 PM »
0
I'd say it is a 1958-1973 production 100/110 ton switcher.

http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE%20100X-Tonners.HTML

old issues of x2200 south might have more information.

It's listed on the same site as a 92 ton, built 1962.

https://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_85Ton.HTML

Jason

Missaberoad

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 3483
  • Gender: Male
  • Ryan in Alberta
  • Respect: +1065
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2020, 04:29:13 PM »
0
It's listed on the same site as a 92 ton, built 1962.

https://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_85Ton.HTML

Jason

I wonder what makes it a 92 ton? Is there a reference somewhere explaining GE's switcher model designations?
The Railwire is not your personal army.  :trollface:

Chris333

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 18191
  • Respect: +5562
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2020, 04:42:25 PM »
+1
The foot plate being thicker steel can be all it take to make it weigh more. A GE 45tonner is smaller than a 44tonner, but it weighs more.

Kentuckian

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 890
  • Gender: Male
  • "This all started with Romans 10:9!" -Apologetix
  • Respect: +489
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2020, 09:38:57 PM »
0
Thank you all!
Modeling the C&O in Kentucky.

“Nature does not know extinction; all it knows is transformation. ... Everything science has taught me-and continues to teach me-strengthens my belief in the continuity of our spiritual existence after death. Nothing disappears without a trace.” Wernher von Braun

peteski

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 32178
  • Gender: Male
  • Honorary Resident Curmudgeon
  • Respect: +4825
    • Coming (not so) soon...
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2020, 11:33:28 PM »
0
I never really thought about it: so the name of the locomotive is basically its weigth?
I wonder why they didn't give them "real" names, like most other locomotives have?  Or if they had other  names, why didn't they stick?
. . . 42 . . .

nkalanaga

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 9720
  • Respect: +1361
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2020, 12:35:31 AM »
0
Originally, the weights were designed to fit particular union agreements and pay scales.  Engineer pay was partly based on weight, so a company wanted the lightest locomotive that could do the job.  GE sold them by weight to make it easier.
N Kalanaga
Be well

Chris333

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 18191
  • Respect: +5562
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2020, 03:20:05 AM »
0
IV B1
« Last Edit: May 31, 2020, 03:22:40 AM by Chris333 »

Hawghead

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 791
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +325
Re: Who made this locomotive?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 01:02:17 PM »
0
I never really thought about it: so the name of the locomotive is basically its weigth?
I wonder why they didn't give them "real" names, like most other locomotives have?  Or if they had other  names, why didn't they stick?

As I understand it, when diesel locomotives came out it obviously negated the need for a fireman.  Union contracts however still required one.  As a result the contracts were renegotiated and locomotives under 90,000 pounds did not require a fireman.  The result was the GE 44 tonner.  I'm guessing follow on versions of this locomotive stuck with the naming convention.

Scott
There's a prototype for everything.
If you can't make it perfect, make it adjustable.
DCC is not plug-n-play.