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Cajonpassfan

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Everheard of Neverstall?
« on: April 19, 2019, 03:42:44 PM »
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Anyone familiar with this product?
Ad says "Used By The Real Railroads". Not to be cynical, but so is sand  :facepalm:
I'd appreciate feedback from anyone familiar with it.
Thanks, Otto K.
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 03:59:26 PM »
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I believe it's just repackaged No-Ox at a considerable price premium. That being said, it does work. I use it mainly for improving conductivity for switch hinges/points. 
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 04:47:27 PM »
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Yes. NO-OX was used by real rairoads:

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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2019, 05:00:38 PM »
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Applying Wahl Clipper Oil or even Transmission's Fluid works too.  :D
But any oily substance on the railhead will attract dust and will eventually that oily gunk will accumulate on rolling stock's wheel treads (especially on plastic wheels).  There are lots of official, and home-grown methods to keep improve conductivity, and they all have their pluses and minuses.
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 06:12:15 PM »
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Yes. NO-OX was used by real rairoads:

Did "real railroads" apply NO-OX-ID to the rails?

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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 06:22:29 PM »
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I posted about a year ago that my garage layout down hear in humid south east Texas was suffering from a blackish oxide film developing on the nickel silver Kato unitrack.
I had to abrasively clean the track to get this stuff off pretty often to keep the trains running. 
So, I abrasively cleaned the track again, so it was nice an smooth and shiny and  applied “NoOxId A special” very sparingly by wiping it on the track tops with my finger and let it sit a few days.
I ran a loco around to be sure it spread out.  Cleaned the loco after.
After three days I wiped off the NoOxId A special from the track. Don’t want this greasy stuff on permanently.
This stuff is supposed to make some chemical reaction with the Nickel Silver or something.

Anyhow, after a year now and no other application since of this stuff the fact is my black oxide layer issue has gone.

I still have to clean the track of dust and grime of course but with just an alcohol wipe, no more abrasive cleaning in a year.

Above FWIW

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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 06:32:00 PM »
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Did "real railroads" apply NO-OX-ID to the rails?

I doubt it - the 1:1 loco wouldn't be able to pull anything.  :D
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2019, 11:44:00 AM »
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Well, I use something called CRC QD Electronic Cleaner for points and switch contacts, but don't know what's in it, either. So it seems we don't actually know that this Neverstall stuff is NO OX, or something else, right?
I'm still interested in specific actual experience with this stuff, just in case this is the magic potion we're all looking for and never quite find... :|
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2019, 02:05:33 PM »
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I dug around and found my package of the stuff. It's Deox-IT,  which you probably  can bu a whole can for the price of the tube. Course a can would last you and a number of successive generations , so the tube is a bit more practical .  As I mentioned  before it helps keeps switches  in tune and I have used in some engines that always seem to be a bit balky even after traditional  cleaning.
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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2019, 03:36:23 PM »
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De-Oxit or No-Ox?  Totally different stuff.

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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 08:34:11 PM »
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Yep, it is Deox-it, confirmed with the guy who is repackaging it.

I've used the stuff forever, naptha based carrier, removes oxidation (mild) leaves a thin coating to ******** oxidation, in the spray can good for flushing out connectors.


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Re: Everheard of Neverstall?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 09:33:51 PM »
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I dug around and found my package of the stuff. It's Deox-IT,  which you probably  can bu a whole can for the price of the tube.  As I mentioned  before it helps keeps switches  in tune and I have used in some engines that always seem to be a bit balky even after traditional  cleaning.
I apply DeoxIT to any rail joiners that won't be soldered, such as those on layout modules or adjacent to turnouts.