Does anybody make a 10' IH PS-1?

[OldEastRR]

The NH (of course) had weirdie PS-1s like this --- I wonder if I'll have to cut down somebody's PS-1.
AHA! I STILL picked a RR to model that has cars nobody else had!! (How about them 8600 coaches, eh?)

[bbussey]

Just model the 10’6” AAR prototypes, of which the railroad had more of. Plenty of variation there (ends, doors, brakewheels, roofwalks, trucks) to make the fleet look interesting. And the 10’6” PS-1s add additional variety.

[nkalanaga]

I didn't know there WAS a 10' IH PS-1...

Learn something new every day.

[OldEastRR]

What was the shorter PS-1 like? Exact copy of the taller version except shorter? Did it have fewer end corrugations?

[cjm413]

What was the shorter PS-1 like? Exact copy of the taller version except shorter? Did it have fewer end corrugations?

[wcfn100]

Originally P&WV.

NM, I think that's an error in the book.  My guess would be ex-NH.

Jason

[cjm413]

Originally P&WV.

NM, I think that's an error in the book.  My guess would be ex-NH.

Jason

NH and DL&W were the only roads to order the 10' IH variant.  B&O built some 10' IH cars using PS components.

[wcfn100]

NH and DL&W were the only roads to order the 10' IH variant.  B&O built some 10' IH cars using PS components.

Right, which is why the book is in error when it said P&WV which were 10' 6" cars.

TP&W, ACY and PH&D had leased cars originally from the NH 35000-35999 series.

Jason

[OldEastRR]

Aha, so the shoter PS-1 is missing the top thin stiffener rib at the top for gthe less height. Cool -- should be easy to cut down a stock PS-1 to match it. Maybe I'll try an Atlas version first. But at least the NH wasn't the ONLY RR with these oddballs.
Interesting. Looks like they had to locate the lower door guide on the sill instead of the bottom of the car wall. So they could use the same doors as the reg PS-1? that will be interesting to duplicate...

What are the Bachmann 40' cars like? Are they PS-1s? Are they halfway decent for accuracy?

[nscalbitz]

No help to OP.

Post road- the D&RGW 1966- USRE LEASED refurbs- then purchased 1979- 2nd hand ex New Haven (1947-48)- higher numbers taller 10'6 IH as series 50150-50499.

  Source: Rio Grande Color Guide - Jim Eager 1996- Publ- Morning Sun Books.
 
Modeled by IM in HO and Atlas (almost accurately) in N:
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Ongoing question- why would NH sell less than 20yo cars, needing refurbishment? We know the RG took the opportunity to get some 'cheaper' 40 footers to replace vital service arrangements as the original 1939 series aged and wore out.
regards davew

[cjm413]

Right, which is why the book is in error when it said P&WV which were 10' 6" cars.

TP&W, ACY and PH&D had leased cars originally from the NH 35000-35999 series.

Jason

Also CNW

[cjm413]

Aha, so the shoter PS-1 is missing the top thin stiffener rib at the top for gthe less height. Cool -- should be easy to cut down a stock PS-1 to match it. Maybe I'll try an Atlas version first. But at least the NH wasn't the ONLY RR with these oddballs.
Interesting. Looks like they had to locate the lower door guide on the sill instead of the bottom of the car wall. So they could use the same doors as the reg PS-1? that will be interesting to duplicate...

What are the Bachmann 40' cars like? Are they PS-1s? Are they halfway decent for accuracy?

Bachmann makes two 40' PS-1's, one with a PS sliding door and the other with a plug door.   Both are pretty much duplicative of the old Atlas/Roco models that are now in the Trainman line.

[bbussey]

Ongoing question- why would NH sell less than 20yo cars, needing refurbishment? We know the RG took the opportunity to get some 'cheaper' 40 footers to replace vital service arrangements as the original 1939 series aged and wore out.

Because the railroad was bankrupt and sold a large number of the boxcars for money, the bulk of which they leased back after being refurbished (the red-orange cars and the black cars).

[Missaberoad]

Because the railroad was bankrupt and sold a large number of the boxcars for money, the bulk of which they leased back after being refurbished (the red-orange cars and the black cars).

This was a pretty common if not wise practice in the Era... Milwaukee road did it too, short term gain but it caught up with them and eventually made their position worse...

[skm]

Because the railroad was bankrupt and sold a large number of the boxcars for money, the bulk of which they leased back after being refurbished (the red-orange cars and the black cars).

A kind understatement. Patrick McGinnis, while not unlike many corporate raiders of the time, contributed to the demise of several Northeastern Railroads by selling off assets and then leasing/renting back the same assets, while paying themselves 10 of millions of dollars (100's?) in the process. This included the Norfolk & Southern, Central of Georgia and then the NH&H. He was finally imprisoned for 18 months after irregularities concerning the B&M.

On a positive note, he is responsible for several colorful repainting schemes that make otherwise monotonous "Oxide red" color schemes predominant