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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2017, 05:34:01 PM »
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Con-Cor made a model of a Gunderson 48' all-purpose well car in the past:

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/ccgundwell.html
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2017, 08:21:44 PM »
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And N Scale Kits offers a 53' AP well car, as shown in Ron's second link.

They are cool indeed.  Though truth be told, I doubt that many of the cut-down 40' wells that Atlas is offering are hauling trailers these days, unless they are 28' pups.

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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2017, 09:01:35 PM »
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They are cool indeed.  Though truth be told, I doubt that many of the cut-down 40' wells that Atlas is offering are hauling trailers these days, unless they are 28' pups.

A search on Railcarphotos tends to suggest that the hitches were removed when shortened.  Anyone have a shot showing the hitch plate?

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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2017, 09:17:07 PM »
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A search on Railcarphotos tends to suggest that the hitches were removed when shortened.  Anyone have a shot showing the hitch plate?

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As per my earlier message, only the TTXs had the hitches removed on initial shopping, the NOKLs kept theirs

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2213266

Subsequent shopping of the NOKLs might have removed them though.
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2017, 09:19:29 PM »
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Gotcha.   I only looked at the TTX cars.


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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2017, 09:56:09 PM »
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They are cool indeed.  Though truth be told, I doubt that many of the cut-down 40' wells that Atlas is offering are hauling trailers these days, unless they are 28' pups.

Very true and it's hard to imagine they ever did with a 42' length restriction. My gut says it was a case of why pay to remove the hitches if we don't have to?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4458131

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2404894

Oh for a bulldog nose (beveled corner) UPS pup though....
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2017, 12:10:57 AM »
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The entire trailer isn't in the well, only the wheels are - 'cause the 5th wheel is outside the well.
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2017, 12:28:16 AM »
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The entire trailer isn't in the well, only the wheels are - 'cause the 5th wheel is outside the well.

Obviously. Still limited to a 42' length trailer though.
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2017, 03:46:03 AM »
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http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4458131

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2404894

Cool shots!  I didn't realize there were articulated AP sets (as opposed to drawbar-coupled, or standalone).  Apparently these started life as 48' wells in the series BN 67xxx.   There is another NOKL series (230500-230533) that started life as Mass Central that have not been chopped down yet.  Here is a shot of one carrying three 53' trailers (login req'd):

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=1259

Getting back to the Atlas model, here is a NOKL standalone with the hitch removed:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3304888

So they at least exist.

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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2017, 04:06:34 AM »
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Getting back to the Atlas model, here is a NOKL standalone with the hitch removed:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3304888

So they at least exist.

Could be, but my gut reaction is that's a 48' Husky cut down and not an AP cut down - it doesn't have the typical "solid" walkway support along the sides of the well or the lower well sidewall typical of the AP to allow side-loading of the trailers from the bottom base rail. You can see both of these in the photo Ron linked to:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~diggle01/inter/int02.jpeg

It's definitely a confusing series and one that hasn't been documented well in the press.
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Re: New Atlas N 40' Rebuilt Well Car
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2017, 05:51:09 AM »
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Right, my bad.  That is definitely a chopped Husky Stack.

It appears that there are very few chopped AP cars (the Atlas model) in NOKL paint: 210050-2100xx, where xx could be a small as 59.  I'll be getting at least one though, and several of the TTX.  :)