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Checkmate Jasper

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Rolling stock size
« on: November 09, 2014, 12:05:10 AM »
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Hi. first timer here and also real new to model railroading. I'm doing N scale and my question is: when buying rolling stock on the internet, how do you know the physical  size of it, in length. For example, I have some passenger cars that are 3 1/2 inches in length, and I purchased another passenger car on E Bay and it ended up being 6 inches in length. That has happened a coupled of times and the larger units just don't fit well with my system. Did I just miss the key word or what ? There seems to be different scales ( big, normal and small ) within the N scale. Not made of money here, so, I'd like to know how to determine the size prior to buying, so  I can use the money I got on stuff I will use. Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2014, 01:13:01 AM »
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The "scale" should always be the same, assuming you're modeling North American/European railroads, at 1:160, 160th the size of the real thing.  HOWEVER, the real thing comes in many sizes.  In the mid 1800s, North American passenger cars were often only about 50 feet long, which would be 3 3/4 inches in N scale.  Most 20th century cars are 80 to 85 feet long, or 6 to 6 1/2 inches.  European cars can show a similar range, although I'm not sure about their exact sizes.  American freight car models can range 2 inches for beercan tankcars and ore cars to almost 7 inches for "89 ft" flatcars.

The easiest way to tell how long the car is is if the scale length is given, such as a "40 ft boxcar".  Since I don't know where you live, I'm assuming it's in North America, and you use inches.  Ten N scale feet equals exactly 3/4 inch, so converting scale length to actual length is easy, as long as you work with whole numbers.  You also have to allow for couplers and the fact that freight cars are usually labeled with the INSIDE length, so a "40 ft boxcar" as actually about 41 ft long, and the couplers stick out past that, so the N scale model would be about 3 1/4 inches.

European cars are usually label as "length over buffers", and the same 1:160 scale factor applies, although you may need a calculator.  Divide the scale length by 160 and you'll have the actual length, if the car is properly scaled.  In practice, the buffers are often shortened, so the cars won't hit on sharp curves, and like American models, the couplers usually stick out too far, so adding a few millimeters would be expected.  A 10 meter car should be 62.5 millimeters long.  For a very rough estimate, the scale length in meters times 6 is about the model length in millimeters.
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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2014, 06:27:09 PM »
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Thank you a bunch. I'll try to pay more attention (instead of more money). Thanks

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2014, 06:38:55 PM »
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there is an excellent resource page on the internet
it lists most, if not all, passenger and other cars (including locomotives)
that have been produced
you can check them out here before purchase so you know what you are buying:

http://spookshow.net/passenger/passenger.php

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 12:52:35 AM »
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thanks Gary. Spent a long time at the  spookshow website. There is a lot there. Book marked a lot of pages. Between the 2 replies, I've learned some things. Thanks guys !

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 01:08:27 AM »
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You're welcome!  We were both beginners too, once upon a time, and can remember what it was like.

I'll second Spookshow's site as a way to learn about products before buying them.  Almost any car or locomotive that's been available for any length of time is there.

For cars other than passenger cars, youmight want to start here:
http://spookshow.net/trainstuff.html
which is his catalog index page.
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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 12:35:05 PM »
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Welcome to the forum. This place is a great resource and there are tons of nice people here. Please keep is posted on how things progress for you. On Fridays you'll see a post called "The Weekend Update". It's where we post pictures or descriptions if what we've done all week. Feel free to join in even if all you did was get something in the mail that you really like. You'll done amazing and inspiring things.

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 05:01:23 PM »
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Always look for real item's length.  Then calculate what its length would be in scale.
For N scale divide the real length by 160 to give you the scale length in feet. Then multiply the scale length in feet by 12 to calculate the length of the model in inches.
For example: 40' boxcar --> 40'/160=0.25' --> 0.25'x12= 3"
  86' passenger car --> 86'/160= 0.5375' --> 0.5375'x12= 6.45"

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Re: Rolling stock size
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 12:01:41 PM »
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Thanks DJ. That is great info. I just wish folks would list the size on their listing, when selling things on E Bay and other places. Thanks again.