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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 04:21:31 PM »
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Pete,

You're correct: it's actually fish-eyes. And it's caused by my not cleaning the parts thoroughly. I started with very hard molding compounds that required mold release; since then I've gone to the softer compounds, with much better results--and much less trouble breaking the masters from the molds, which becomes important as my arthritis worsens. It's actually not that damp in my basement here in SW Ohio, as the house is fairly new and well-built, and the basement is a walk-out. It's just that I lived in New Mexico for nearly 20 years, where air-borne moisture was never a problem.

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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 03:02:42 AM »
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If it is fish-eyes then it is from oils or from the mold release residue.   As I mentioned, besides cleaning the heck out of the molded parts (using a caustic cleaner) you can also try paintable mold release or paint the inside of the mold before pouring resin. If you do that then the paint will also act as mold release.
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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2012, 08:31:43 PM »
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Paint problems with resin is an old known problem. There is not much that can be done to make it work.

My supplier has some suggestions

http://www.reynoldsam.com/pages.php?pID=58&cID=12

You might have to look at this product for coloring.

http://www.reynoldsam.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1119_1213/index.html

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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2012, 09:39:56 PM »
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Thanks, guys. Let me think about this for a while. One of my problems has been that Smooth-On's molding compounds seem to change names over time, especially if I buy them from a different supplier. I'm away from home, so I can't read the labels off the tubs. I'm having much better luck with the "30" soft materials, which are blue, and seem not to need a release agent. Before that I tried the "60" brown harder materials, as I thought they would give longer mold life--but my definition of severe undercuts (i.e., hulls) was obviously far more lenient that theirs. That is, I considered hulls as mild undercuts, but I think Smooth-On might consider them severe. I am in no way criticizing Smooth-On, just relating how I reacted to their web site descriptions, and their descriptions of mold flexibility.

I'm dealing with big molds and castings. The large freighter bow took 52 oz. of molding materials, and each cast takes 27 oz. of casting materials. Later on I can thin the hull walls down from 6 mm to 3 mm, which would reduce the casting materials a bit (and increase the molding materials). So the molds are pretty expensive. I've been using mold release agents to ensure that get maximum life out of the molds. But then cleaning them up, and having paint failures, is defeating any cost benefit from not using release agents.

I just might be pushing the envelope of expertise here, as N scale casting is usually in pretty small quantities. I'm having no problems whatsoever with winches, hatches, rescue boats, small hulls--in fact, anything up to about 10 oz. I think the smaller hulls are no problem because I actually sand off any of the oily residue when trimming them up.

I've tried to talk to the two firms that I know make fine art ship models with resin, but haven't received any technical advice yet, and rather doubt I will.

So--onward! I do have the Santa Fe Tug announcement ready and will post it shortly, which is marketing-speak for when I actually have the seven ships of the first run nearly ready for shipping. Actually, they are ready now, but do I dare?

Oh, I should have a photo of an Active-class with the post 1967 racing stripes tomorrow--I only know of two of the class that received them--the Cuyahoga and the Alert.

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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 01:56:39 PM »
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Pete,
try the mold release from Alumilite:  http://alumilite.com/ProdDetail.cfm?Category=Support%20Products&Name=UMR  It is paintable.
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Re: First N-Scale Ship Announcement--Active-Class Cutter: Racing Stripe Version
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2012, 05:16:32 PM »
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Racing Stripe Version

A number of the Active-class cutters lasted into the USCG "racing stripe" era, which extends to the present. Here's no. 2 in the class W126 Agassiz, as she would have been painted in 1967 or so. Makes for a handsome ship!




This also shows the new custom photo-etch railings, which are the correct height and have the correct stanchion spacing on all levels.

Just a little touch-up paint here and there with a 10/0 brush and she's ready to ship.