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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2022, 02:16:43 AM »
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I'm surprised no one has created a detailed body on Shapeways.  Maybe that's a Briggs request?

That is a great idea; will mention it next time I see him.

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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2022, 08:41:44 AM »
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The Tomytec chassis are very adaptable, being plastic frame you can chop and stretch them unmercifully.   I did a similar repower in one of Lee Weldon's metroliners.  The problem with Tomytec is that there are a lot of chassis in original and "R" versions, not all are available, some are discontinued.   I've done my kits with my own frame that accepts the trucks, pickups and motors leaving the frame length out of it.  You really can't count on getting a specific frame indefinitely.

If somebody is going to do one in 3D (great idea, btw), PLEASE get a Tomytec or somebody's chassis first and design to it, rather than just drawing it to perfect scale and leaving it to somebody else to hack it to fit.   Oh, and print one and actually build one too....

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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2022, 11:24:44 AM »
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I'd love to see a decent shell for a Sperry Rail car (Walthers did a complete model in HO), however the chassis will be a bit of a challenge as one truck is significantly longer (and different) than the other:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3467066

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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2022, 11:39:21 AM »
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Re the chassis; for a 3D model to be viable long-term it needs to be a chassis which is available on a regular basis.  That is a bigger challenge today due to the limited run approach of contemporary manufacturing.

Suggestions for chassis are most welcome, as are sources for drawings of these cars.


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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2022, 04:35:42 PM »
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I've been working with Tomytec parts now since about 2006, first chassis I used was the TM01.   The truck design comes in a couple basic flavors- the original truck (that I use) that has the gear towers over the end, and the "R" revised version that has the gear tower in the center.   For this project, it doesn't matter that much.   The second major split is on the truck wheelbase, they have a long wheelbase and a short wheelbase truck; long wheelbase truck has end-axle pickups, short one has interior pickups on a plate that rides on the axle.   All of them have Atlas/Kato-style sprung pickup wipers.    Quality of the materials is comparable to Kato, generally good stuff.   

Above the trucks, it's a free-for-all on chassis length, it's a plastic frame with a motor with a plastic driveshaft.   Almost always 1 or two flywheels, pretty much now a standard motor.   So while there are umpteen different TM frames over the years, the trucks / motors are relatively consistent.   I've been able to fit all manner of trucks and motors into the frames I designed, so that's what I recommend - don't design to a frame length, design your own frame that just holds standard trucks, and I splice driveshafts to length with K&S tubing to fit your exact situation.    Problem solved on all the odd chassis lengths.   And the entire chassis is a snap-together design, you can field strip one is about 3 minutes flat to parts.

And, while Tomytec has 'pizza cutter' flanges, it's a split axle design, I chuck them in a dremel and reduce the flanges with a file, I've got it down to where I can do about a wheel a minute, checking with a micrometer.   Easy as it gets.

The Plaza Japan online store has a big assortment of chassis at a far better price than Ebay, and they make a practice of including a scan of the chassis dimensions and good photos so you know what you're getting.    It's a pretty evolved solution, really.   These and the Kato 11-105/6/7's are the backbone of what I build off of.

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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2022, 08:48:44 PM »
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To be honest, I'd be happy with one powered truck (but all wheel pickup) - the thing only has to drag itself around. That way I could try to get it a bit closer.

Thanks for the run down on the chassis options Rand!

If a decent shell appears, I'll make it work.  ;)


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Re: Sperry rail car
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2022, 01:24:22 AM »
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That is a great idea; will mention it next time I see him.

Tim


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