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MarkInLA

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What's going on with 'keep alive' today ?
« on: October 16, 2020, 07:51:30 PM »
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No layout presently. Haven't run anything in eons..None of my 5-6 DCC engines have it. Wondering what the status is today with 'keep alive'..
Is it now included in a percentage of engines ? If not, why not ?  ...

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Re: What's going on with 'keep alive' today ?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2020, 08:12:35 PM »
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Keep alive.. like CV 11 Packet Timeout?

Or.. Keep Alive, as in capacitor banks for sound decoders.

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Re: What's going on with 'keep alive' today ?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 12:24:12 AM »
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Mark, assuming that you are asking about the capacitor-based circuitry, here is a passage I recently posted in another (ESU-specfic) thread in the DCC section of the forum, but it pretty much applies to any brand of decoder.

ESU decoders have "token" capacitors on-board. Couple hundred microfarads - just enough to coast uninterrupted through some very small power drops  (few milliseconds in duration).  Even the additional caps added by modelers (usually less than a thousand microfarads) offer only slightly longer ability to coast through power drops (maybe tens of milliseconds).  These are more to keep the decoder's microprocessor (brain) which runs all the decoder's functions (including sound)  from re-initializing.

True Keep-Alive circuits which use SuperCaps have capacitance in few hundred thousand microfarads.  Those will power the model for a second or two without any power coming through the rails.
  Those devices are too large to fit in most N scale diesels, but sometimes are being installed in steam engine tenders (where there more available space).
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Re: What's going on with 'keep alive' today ?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2020, 08:15:09 PM »
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Belated thanks for all replies...M