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Ed Kapuscinski

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Looking for some info on some tank cars
« on: July 31, 2018, 10:02:17 AM »
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I'm specifically eras and service dates as in, can I get away with running these on a Penn Central era layout?

Most importantly:

https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/atlas-n-50003747-11-000-gallon-tank-car-dupont-3520/


But also:

https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/atlas-n-50003745-11-000-gallon-tank-car-dow-775/


And lastly, not an Atlas car, but an old MTL special run very near and dear to my heart. Allied Chemical's "Barrett Division" was the chemical plant right up the street (and that I blame for me being me).
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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 11:27:18 AM »
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Hi Ed:

I have been engaged in a similar exercise for tank cars which may have run on the BCR during the 1970s.  Of course, prototype photographs and switch lists will provide clues as to which tank cars were seen.

For these particular examples, you will need to know their service dates.  Your best reference for this is the Official Railway Equipment Registers which were published each year.  These can usually be accessed at libraries.

The first two cars carry SHPX reporting marks and belonged to ACF Leasing (Shippers Car Line Division).  Tank cars were usually built by specific companies such as ACF or Procor and then leased to various chemical companies.  Assuming that the model manufacturer has used actual reporting marks, you can look up SHPX 3509 and SHPX 766 in the ORERs for the 1970s and see if they were in service or not.  Same with BMX 810.

The ORERs have provided me with built and out of service dates for all of the PGE/BCR freight cars as I was able to obtain copies of the PGE/BCR section for most years.  Private owner cars such as your tank cars are a little trickier because you have to find the actual books.


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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 09:44:19 PM »
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I'm specifically eras and service dates as in, can I get away with running these on a Penn Central era layout?

https://www.modeltrainstuff.com/atlas-n-50003745-11-000-gallon-tank-car-dow-775/

Ed, I began my 28 year career in Logistics at Dow Chemical in 1969 and never remember seeing a car lettered for Dow like the model in your photo. My guess: It is from a much earlier era or the lettering scheme never existed.

John




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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 10:25:44 PM »
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Ed, I began my 28 year career in Logistics at Dow Chemical in 1969 and never remember seeing a car lettered for Dow like the model in your photo. My guess: It is from a much earlier era or the lettering scheme never existed.

John

Thank you John, I appreciate it as I am researching these for 1975 as well.

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2018, 09:32:16 AM »
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Ed, I began my 28 year career in Logistics at Dow Chemical in 1969 and never remember seeing a car lettered for Dow like the model in your photo. My guess: It is from a much earlier era or the lettering scheme never existed.

John

Awesome, thank you!!!

In other news, I just came across this which is also really helpful in understanding these cars (and the white domes).
https://kadee.com/STL2016RPM/11K-Gal._ICC-105A_ACF_Type%2027.pdf

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2018, 10:07:04 AM »
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Awesome, thank you!!!

In other news, I just came across this which is also really helpful in understanding these cars (and the white domes).
https://kadee.com/STL2016RPM/11K-Gal._ICC-105A_ACF_Type%2027.pdf


That is a great PDF!

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2018, 10:17:16 AM »
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Wow! Somebody did their homework. I love this hobby, and all the various flavors of characters who dive into it!

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2018, 10:21:30 AM »
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Ed,
Thanks for that great pdf- everything I need to know to have several excuses to run some of those cars. 
Tom D.

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2018, 10:56:19 AM »
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In other news, I just came across this which is also really helpful in understanding these cars (and the white domes).
https://kadee.com/STL2016RPM/11K-Gal._ICC-105A_ACF_Type%2027.pdf
Gee whiz, how did you ever manage to find that document?  :P

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=45118.msg583152#msg583152

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Re: Looking for some info on some tank cars
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2018, 10:29:08 PM »
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OK, I checked some of these in HO scale (presumably N scale versions are the same) - most of them are in as built schemes.

Texas Nat Gas BLT 9-48
PPG BLT 2-51
Olin BLT 6-52, SUN 8-54
Dupont BLT 8-45
DOW BLT 7-50, SOO 12-11-72
Col Sou BLT 7-52