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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 04:25:50 AM »
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Take a look at Max's SP&S 0-6-0 project.  He has some screws, and I believe lists the sources, that make a 00-90 look huge.

@cbroughton67 , yep, look there. He shows som 0.5mm OD threaded screws there.

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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 04:52:45 AM »
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But you need a 0.5mm tap  ;)


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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 07:42:58 AM »
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Another way would be to press fit some phosphor bronze rod into a hole and add a mating hole in the contact strip (drill in place before you shave off the upper flange) and then solder the strip to the rod and snip off the excess.

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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2017, 03:04:09 PM »
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Another way would be to press fit some phosphor bronze rod into a hole and add a mating hole in the contact strip (drill in place before you shave off the upper flange) and then solder the strip to the rod and snip off the excess.


Thanks for the links, @Lemosteam !  With the die plate in the kit you shared, I could thread the wire and screw it in. That would also resolve the potential issue of the hex head interfering with the shell. The tap and die set are on order - Thanks!


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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2017, 01:46:48 AM »
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If you like John's suggestion, but can't find phosphor bronze rod, ordinary brass would work just as well.  I did that years ago to attach jumper wires to Minitrix F-unit frames.  Drill a hole, drive a piece of brass rod into it, and solder the wire to the rod.
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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2017, 10:21:26 AM »
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The EP-2 project I'm working on uses metric screws that are M1.4mm.
These are a little larger than 00-90  and smaller than 0-80.

So .7 is pretty small.
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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2017, 07:46:46 PM »
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I took the plunge and finally lowered my AZL SD45's. Here's how I did it:


I cut off the tabs on the frame that the shell rested on, included the top part of the fuel tank that held the pickup strips in place. This allows the shell to rest on the PCB clips that are part of the chassis. I drilled holes horizontally into the chassis and inserted wire, so it "pinches" the pickup strips to the fuel tank part of the chassis. The wires are glued in place. I also applied a tiny amount of CA where the wire and pickup strip meet to help hold them in place more securely. Be sure not to use too much, or it will end up between the pickup strip and frame, and then no longer conduct. Don't ask how I know...
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I filed-down the pickup nubs on the trucks, since the clearance was now lower with the lowered shell.
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The rearmost PCB clips are about 0.020" lower than the front clips, so I added a 0.020" piece of styrene inside the shell for the rear clips to rest on and keep the shell level relative to the frame.
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The location of the pilots had to be adjusted to maintain correct coupler height. I added a 0.020" x 0.030" strip of styrene to the bottom of the pilot to compensate for how much it had to be moved up.
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The height of the walkways is now comparable to that of AZL's GP38-2.
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Here's the before and after comparison:
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I forgot to take a picture, but the fuel tank had to be cut in half horizontally, material removed, and glued back together to allow it to fit with the lowered shell. It looks more prototypical now, as well.


Here's the completed modification (but before weathering):
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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2017, 08:18:52 PM »
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Wow, that's some mighty fine workmanship...good job! :)

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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2017, 02:37:24 PM »
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Holy smokes, nice job!

I recently got a set of the GEVOS.  Exact same problem, and probably the same remedy will have to be done.  Thanks for sharing your process. 

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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2017, 11:26:29 AM »
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While some precise drilling is needed, this looks like a simple fix which makes dramatic difference in the model's appearance - well done!
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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2017, 05:24:44 PM »
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The difference is huge. Thanks for the posting this.
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Re: How Can I Lower the Shell on an AZL Z-scale SD45?
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2017, 10:27:33 PM »
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Awesome job Chris! It looks incredible.
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