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DKS

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 01:07:07 PM »
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Taybe it's the challenge in reproducing the brick finish...

Brick is a serious problem for laser shops. Brick can be done--and really well, too--but it gobbles up laser time like there's no tomorrow. So it's pretty uneconomical to laser brick structures.

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 01:13:51 PM »
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Brick is a serious problem for laser shops. Brick can be done--and really well, too--but it gobbles up laser time like there's no tomorrow. So it's pretty uneconomical to laser brick structures.

Ah!

I figured there was a reason why the lack of brick structures by the laser folks.

I wonder if someone will offer one with the brick-finish, albeit at a higher price point, just to test the market.

RSlaser does offer some brick-faced sheets.  And they do look darned good, but like you say they are pricey because of the time involved.

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2011, 01:29:58 PM »
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I wonder if someone will offer one with the brick-finish...

Patience...

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2011, 01:43:44 PM »
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So about laser time. I've always heard the most expensive part about laser cutting is the power used to run the laser. But there lasers are around 40watts. Isn't that just like leaving a 40W light bulb on all day?

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2011, 02:38:00 PM »
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So about laser time. I've always heard the most expensive part about laser cutting is the power used to run the laser. But there lasers are around 40watts. Isn't that just like leaving a 40W light bulb on all day?

A 40W laser outputs 40W of laser light. But it consumes considerably more electricity than that.

Plus, you're talking about a machine that cost you $15-20K, which means it's got to be running all day long to earn its keep. If it can crank out 20 wooden structures in the time it takes to burn only one brick building, guess which kind of kit will be preferred?

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2011, 03:00:36 PM »
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I understand the cost of the unit, but didn't get the whole cost of running it. Either way I am happy to pay to have stuff laser cut.

David, When is your laser showing up?  :D

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 04:15:49 PM »
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a laser can cut 4 or 5 at a time ?

one of the costs in a laser cutter is the device has a
time limit on how long it will last.

I know the earlier LED lasers were good for a few hundred hours.
and then had to be replaced.
this may have changed....

is there a new machine in your future, David ?

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Re: I don't think we discussed these... Atlas's Laser Cut Structures
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 06:17:17 PM »
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While a laser is a tempting toy to be sure, it's not in my future. They're so expensive that you basically need to have them running non-stop to pay for themselves and the electricity they drink. Plus, I live in a condo, which imposes limitations on setup (most of them require external venting, and some need dedicated 220 volt service). It would become something of a monkey on my back, and I'd have to look at everything in terms of what I can cut with it. Even though there's likely room in the marketplace, I don't want to become yet another laser shop. I want to have the freedom to innovate, to explore all manner of methods and materials, rather than have to constantly feed the beast. Thus I'll be farming out my laser work for the foreseeable future. As it is, I'm collaborating with a laser artist (in every sense of the word) to develop some innovative new approaches to product design. It's very exciting work that, ironically, wouldn't be possible if I had my own laser, given that I'm a one-man shop.

Oh, and a laser cannot cut more than one object at a time. If you have a perfectly plain shape, with no surface detailing (bricks, boards, etc.), you can stack the material, but that's very rare in laser kits, and usually more trouble than its worth since it involves additional materials and different setups. And all lasers have lifetimes. Gas lasers are a lot like cars; they need servicing at regular intervals, as well as periodic major overhauls.
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