Initial CGW decal sheet proposal to Microscale.

[Sokramiketes]

Hmm... interesting.  But also not possible to tell if it was painted red as you're suggesting, or simply that the black paint has worn off similar to what is visible on the roof edge. 

[sirenwerks]

What was the coating? On the right-hand edge the black seems to be coming up in a manner that presents like rubber rolling off rather than paint flaking. That's the perception I have at least. And that red under the black has no difference between the outer coat on the walls, making it look like the car was all red at some point.

Also, look at the underside of the cupola roof lip. It's red on the underside of the lip, hinting at a coating applied only to the top surface. Just my two cents. We all know how out in left field I am.

[wcfn100]

Hmm... interesting.  But also not possible to tell if it was painted red as you're suggesting, or simply that the black paint has worn off similar to what is visible on the roof edge.  

I knew if I wrote about the coating it would head this way.

What's clear in the photo is that the running boards are red.


edit:  I wanted to add about the MS small logo.  If you are concerened that it's too small, measure it.  The logo should be 19", but I believe it was though to be 18" (ask Ed).  Obvioulsy an inch won't do much, but if MS made it at all undersized from 18", it could look too small to use.


Jason

[sirenwerks]

If the coating was applied with a roller, a red running board would make complete sense, as would the seemingly clean color separation on the lip of the cupola roof. I guess it depends on what they coated caboose roofs with those days.

[Sokramiketes]

I knew if I wrote about the coating it would head this way.

What's clear in the photo is that the running boards are red.


edit:  I wanted to add about the MS small logo.  If you are concerened that it's too small, measure it.  The logo should be 19", but I believe it was though to be 18" (ask Ed).  Obvioulsy an inch won't do much, but if MS made it at all undersized from 18", it could look too small to use.


Jason

Big Cheese wasn't in tonight, will catch him Sunday.

Took a closer look at the MS decals... I think I'm going to stick with the 24" herald on this caboose. There's so much border around the orange on these decals that the 19" looks visually smaller than it really is.  So yes, I'm making an artistic call until better decals are available. 

[mcjaco]

Here's probably the best example on RRPA.  Please, someone try to tell me that the running board is black.  Better yet, try to tell me how the black faded to purple. 

Digging back into my paint technician days....

Black paint usually has purple tint in it.  That might be why there's a "purplish" effect as it wore down. 

Honestly, in the picture you posted, I don't really see purple though.  Just red popping through the black.

[wcfn100]

Honestly, in the picture you posted, I don't really see purple though.  Just red popping through the black.

In this picture?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=608705

So just coincidence that the color you see happens to be the exact color prior to the body getting painted red?   ???



Jason

[mcjaco]

^ Yeah.  I see red through the black, as it's worn off/down.  Which would make sense to me. 

It'd be easier to paint the whole thing red in one shot, then come back with the roof color/coating.  Mask once.  Not twice.

I will agree, in the one shot, the running boards do look red.  At least the side profiles.

[wcfn100]

^ Yeah.  I see red through the black, as it's worn off/down.  Which would make sense to me. 

It'd be easier to paint the whole thing red in one shot, then come back with the roof color/coating.  Mask once.  Not twice.

So you think the tops of the ladders were black?


Jason

[mcjaco]

I think you have enough photo evidence to paint them the way you think they should be painted.  Until someone can prove otherwise with photographic proof, or actual paint shop instructions.   

[Sokramiketes]

Ron doesn't remember anything about the 24" LS herald.  The art for the CGW locomotive set, which has been changed a couple times since his originals, was done by hand a long time ago.  The heralds and fonts are direct tracings from the RR drawings.  He also said MicroScale has never been able to print the "dulux gold" in a proper color...  I would agree.

The roofs were rolled with black car cement.  So, Jason, you might be right on the roofwalks remaining body color.  I'd still love to see an overhead shot. Ron doesn't remember seeing evidence one way or the other when he researched for the HO cars, but again, he said it's been awhile since he was on top of that project.

[wcfn100]

  Thanks for the info Mike, and thank Ron for me too.  Yeah, the roof shot is certainly the smoking gun here, but for now I'll just add the car cement to the puzzle.

  I didn't know the decal set had changed.  I'll have to look next time I got my decals out.  I know I have some sets going back to the original yellow heralds.  I can't remember off hand if the first sets had all three heralds as yellow or just the smaller two.

Jason

[Sokramiketes]

  Thanks for the info Mike, and thank Ron for me too.  Yeah, the roof shot is certainly the smoking gun here, but for now I'll just add the car cement to the puzzle.

  I didn't know the decal set had changed.  I'll have to look next time I got my decals out.  I know I have some sets going back to the original yellow heralds.  I can't remember off hand if the first sets had all three heralds as yellow or just the smaller two.

Jason

It sounded like the original set didn't even have the LS heralds on it, but I don't remember those... must have been before my time.  I seem to remember the yellow herald sets seeming to match the artwork of the orange sets, just with updated colors.