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General Discussion => Product Discussion => Topic started by: Lenny53 on February 16, 2023, 05:55:11 AM
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Evemodel: https://www.eve-modeler.com
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=51130.0
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Evemodel: https://www.eve-modeler.com
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=51130.0
Thanks, nice to see entry level offerings for a change.
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And from experience, they aren't that bad either. Atlas resells their pre wired Streetlights. And I bought a pack of their N scale houses. While really generic and simple I haven't really found anything that jumps outs as poor manufacturing quality. Somebody did do a test of their rolling stock trucks and found them a little stiff, same with the couplers, might be that they don't use Delrin.
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The consensus I've seen around the internet is that this is an entirely Chinese brand, possibility by a factory that once (or still is) made products for western model rail companies, but decided to have their own independent go at the market.
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For more information, these appear to be the same folks behind "Everest Models", a seller on UK eBay selling European N scale stuff. There's a thread about it here:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=56267.0
One of the users there made the speculation that this may be a case of "third-shift" counterfeiting. That is entirely a possibility if these cars very closely resemble those from other manufacturers.
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"Chat GPT, design me a farmhouse in the American style"
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Their decorated containers are pretty good. Lots of door-end painted detail.
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All of their freight cars are era V European stuff.
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Their gondolas are 13 panels, which look similar to versions of the Con-Cor product of 30 years ago (also a 13 panel gondola).
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Their decorated containers are pretty good. Lots of door-end painted detail.
It looks like they have connecting pins. If they're stackable with the JTC/Atlas/Walthers pin spacing, I'd seriously consider these.
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It looks like they have connecting pins. If they're stackable with the JTC/Atlas/Walthers pin spacing, I'd seriously consider these.
They are.
They're probably the same as Rolland Industrial, if you're familiar with those. At least the hi-cube 40ft.
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Yes, they stack well. The seem to only have one magnet in the center so 40's and 20's don't connect properly. They sell painted/undecorated versions too that do not come with magnets.
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They are.
They're probably the same as Rolland Industrial, if you're familiar with those. At least the hi-cube 40ft.
Is this absolutely confirmed? If so, I'm sold.
I did buy some of the Rolland 20' and 40' containers when they were released a decade or so ago. They have no pins whatsoever though, only magnets. And unlike JTC, they used magnets on both the top and bottom (as opposed to a metal plate like the JTCs); that resulted in them having opposing polarities with the JTC/Athearn/Kato magnetic containers.
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I'm not convinced they are Roland. I have a few Roland and they are dimensionally a little different.
TBH, the containers in question look like JT with a different (plain) floor.
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These containers have been mentioned before on this forum . I am sure the 40’ containers are the same as JTC (JTC was annoyed by this ) and the 53’ containers are the same as Atlas . Not sure about the 20’ containers. These are very nice models at a great price the only issue I had is some of the magnets were not in the same orientation and the containers would repel each other rather than attract What’s funny is that if these containers are being made during off hours or unscrupulously they still honoured the wishes of maersk sealand , and stopped producing or selling their containers with the maersk trade mark
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They've also got a decent set of modern era HO scale vehicles. They're the 4D brand ones. They're not the most detailed and you have to assemble them yourself but 16 modern era HO scale vehicles for about 17 bucks is just way too good of a deal to pass up.
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Are those PFE R-70-11 reefers? Have these been done in N before? I don't recall anything 50/52' in length with diagonal ribs bracketing the doors.
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These containers have been mentioned before on this forum . I am sure the 40’ containers are the same as JTC (JTC was annoyed by this ) and the 53’ containers are the same as Atlas . Not sure about the 20’ containers. These are very nice models at a great price the only issue I had is some of the magnets were not in the same orientation and the containers would repel each other rather than attract What’s funny is that if these containers are being made during off hours or unscrupulously they still honoured the wishes of maersk sealand , and stopped producing or selling their containers with the maersk trade mark
Nothing like supporting an ethical "law abiding" Chinese manufacturer. 😂
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Are those PFE R-70-11 reefers? Have these been done in N before? I don't recall anything 50/52' in length with diagonal ribs bracketing the doors.
In ancient times.... http://www.spookshow.net/freight/roco50plugreefer.html (probably a bit short and definitely not fine detail)
Also, Skytop produced a highly detailed shell.... http://www.spookshow.net/freight/skytopreefer.html
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In ancient times.... http://www.spookshow.net/freight/roco50plugreefer.html (probably a bit short and definitely not fine detail)
Also, Skytop produced a highly detailed shell.... http://www.spookshow.net/freight/skytopreefer.html
Different tooling. This new car looks like it has correct doors.
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I was somewhat intrigued that they offer a wood side reefer with metal ends and roof, but the angle of the roof looks a little too steep to me.
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Tom L
Wellington CO
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Different tooling. This new car looks like it has correct doors.
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to imply that the Roco model was an accurate rendition of the PFE R-70-11, just responding to "I don't recall anything 50/52' in length with diagonal ribs bracketing the doors". Obviously the Roco is different tooling, as I indicated by saying "probably too short and not fine detail". The Skytop looks pretty good to me, but I admit to not being an expert on SP refrigerator cars.
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I was somewhat intrigued that they offer a wood side reefer with metal ends and roof, but the angle of the roof looks a little too steep to me.
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Tom L
Wellington CO
Funny that the board gaps are very reminiscent of those Rapido Trains meat reefers. :facepalm: Good thing it's some off-brand model, not from one of the well known model manufacturers. I hope those board gaps are never repeated by any of them. The side ladder also looks rather thick.