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General Discussion => Layout Engineering Reports => Topic started by: Chris333 on April 27, 2017, 04:41:08 AM

Title: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 27, 2017, 04:41:08 AM
 :D  I'm so far into building this that I guess it's a thing now. I had built a HOn30 Maine style layout and it sat for a while with no progress. I hand laid all the track as there was no C55 HOn30 flex available. I over built the layout since I knew the track needed a stable base, but over time joints kept popping and the whole layout turned into a shelf. This is the general layout of the Maine layout:
https://goo.gl/photos/AJ7WvP96qajrojhF6
The squares are 12", the goofy circle were just light bulb spots.

Since then a started a smaller 13x44" HOn30 layout based around the Mann's Creek RR
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c8DufRkI6pzR5ai-HjsBfiWvEH_ZDBUZbnb4RsBHBM6MGQRaD5jG3vB6qRlH3E9RYr7uFZiQ_URN1EXy4qVTELFAWAQf7I2t9ulDZ0b8CSIap2j-yqtY_Ne_Ut2BooXi4Z3jl7u6EQyZ5TWAprvCKVy4KcdBVU6j5KaHXxKFGcIZTvjxLGZWlaWSxew0tZ1eIJK81uGLDJ2g2hCovG8GxTbOIR6z0lmP9rt8NsomYTHsRBPnnP2prCD74xzxyMEwA_apZJRS5e6XklY_rhX_KROH2gWr5LlpVJUMB2vStyv_qhX7o76ighVEHF3pCYrfm_sK_moaOa7Nf5l2Bl30UxGWHAOTURcwVhr3_HPSWO0nLIQQLFNkJ-gfNlolZhLSPUJlAd9esZBmLtMXzC5wAXYZ5ENX1mODfGLFA75uDlaDL9TVUELWfEJ2azi1nhusy_jl5lE99F9FfW09e7ulguhwlLyCPRp8508k5QeSg1DyVOINtm9QtzD-V64IL9XNxlYDQFziurVdJOacmKfmd7qX67SYeHuXwTBp90lnad_tjWJzCgglg-wu29sVH7WGcsu2z0-_bGPp7u4rHfPxFd6Ar1C-4V6j61ra5D_5riZ3UWTxpMNnkb6fwwT3qmQVPCpBkpOMnMLA-TFtDXcCG4IjJnOJhlSdOKWXNQW340w=w1920-h634-no?.jpg)

I liked what I did and wanted more. So I tore up the Maine layout, kept the bones, and rebuilt a freelance layout. I came up with this for a trackplan:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3UO5QBVsnhw9kIaY0gM1J9PWrUwQnN-6qHUaz9RrSuwr_D3Y7ufVpz6n50eE3fdgZZgKLyZc0BpOCzcbjmFghU10bcsvnZkVT97KnjHgtK_zMcr8gQE84BwDpk9SJ250cN0MpNkH_4s0DSV8ZJajg_90bF-H0695u2qSp8HMfApXkKstoiV0bSt1cL-tGB01DjdrHkYvGxgroiRtXbJJb6NSRmOMQnRG5qCQnimdZh-frLJWqVlSCGAgMnBzMSQe_zrw9vf5Ph9r2k6XDioxnUxGFT8AK_L2kGaL4CpOaW3lONGsTN_omcvBYzSCA5Q5lUtAWGOeWEYmPEZWV_31Qx9IoOfJpjIWufsjT9nHqUXnUBvArVVvDOwAh-DwDcEoG-CzPsaHe2U8-zGpR3UU1oQbxO2tY8Fz9hkoij3gBXm970TuWx0qBVccDE_G6PRU03LqhHEGFtHYrEKRLxmGVG6etK_SLlt6xn2x1knyKmPGXFpLGdWQD4XWmRacqgGJC9yaZ_mbCsNM0vbEaeHkFcG8YMxuE2COtwPuSCmEE3pcBT-_cHb2ECnVrf5kLxKXI6SkyeibWgfQW35I0OtcxbkK7JDZUxaqeZkXWJiIC87drYVPGPi4NF9oSFrkw5FlpkWjO7lQPvLfTdtANrEvy8xuvW7_zzvtzPSpcwwdpRk=w1281-h951-no?.jpg)

I ordered some Shinohara C60 flex from the UK, they had to order it from Japan and it took a while to get here. Some pics of the layout while I waited for track:
https://goo.gl/photos/NTCVzENt4MwJGwnVA
https://goo.gl/photos/B7eTee7Vd9j8LF2F7

The track showed up. I built all the turnouts with C55 rail. To join the track I just filed the bottom of the C60 down .005" and they lined right up. I got the "mainline" up and running:
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I ran out of flex for the town site, but I was thinking that area would never get touched because of roundy round reasons  :P  Since I had to order more track I figured I might as well extend the mainline. I came up with this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uGrlu36q2cd9wVw-lLGhbt9QgDtvr-6woLRValmdkmNaGFhWL-x2mla4-C95LLmeSaZT-XSVFDMMqeKLfNjNB1bdrgNdiyoLcld-nw5983CSSFY78LK9jjMtK4a5UuwLlcmttphUCthR1p7lkaXfddCXcmt4oJnRQDXZpSfoCjhl9Ba8CYSZVQZ0gz3fneIAGzGEHpifAOjhUmr066lheBCqSg0UTe1SIN6yOjn0EDIh7qRieo09iGuD83jzSBlCRNP4SzfE5XsWcuxHmfLWGkzaSZlz4dkQUdKiYxFRKSccVENWdLxIyOi99JEcSmeZX-9OLA3lMO6PceqInlnzmM9R0_lOQ2B6eUU-0OpVWEKtjtoXumtAEbGPrrsA6p5FB6IWifywXkBEBwrz2ZkTEZwY6yXtu-tUHvqS6D_sskANPzrvXlLQz_vF_AX0gkG3nFFMFlyCSlsORfqiCFw0E8U5a8lCcctcOibrhCZohcnoyJIccIZwy5Cj1X-IGtKf3pgGq8MmNl7ByID2KhIAtlMOMJnvi5zgwCGyVyotEUoaXE5evh8VItXJqzJgrQcEUn5K4Hzx0y3U-h2EHaPsgVSNZ0krTHG_ccDoBD2E0i5bFyUf6oKzJsQIeavlpl1LWx_50IuyKJ5ge9MsAKvlQVEcYnE6ymNz_jUB2fbcAH0=w1341-h951-no?.jpg)

This time the track didn't come from Japan, it was straight from the UK so it didn't take as long. I built turnouts while I waited. I got the new mainline up and running yesterday. I'll post more later...  :lol:

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 27, 2017, 04:50:14 AM
Might as well talk about the name.

I called the Maine layout railroad the "Mill Creek & Lake Newport RR" after Mill Creek park in Youngstown, OH. When I did the Mann's Creek thing I called it the "Mill Creek Coal & Coke Co." I later found there was a real Mill Creek Coal & Coke Co in WV at one time. I want to still run the Maine stuff so I will keep that lettered for the MC&LN. The mining railroad will be the MCC&CCo. and any logging equipment will be "Lake Newport Lumber".

Mill Creek & Lake Newport
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1S-hOJPlE8YDotQkilVkZeV8j6MpmpoDFDJksu5NTRuiWHFQEeRY0FxhaYo_1VVN1KbkPMSOis_6vOcM28qaIQg-acSdubpdOJnz1jNHfzAoydSL4r9wmLlv3TTavHwpTwKTSm0rJo3KmvFPaQIGMRQmGM9BADpPIogES5lrzm9qe4FNKUl1LLjMcN5H6Ng3FmZz4h5W-_vNxkUOq1pbNeCRbTfv2t2pM6iJK0zszJOcXAWVNGCfXz3EixQ4zD_sTejI8FCFZT_HEUeK-hPyhWE6C3Mwy4UOdeaEiXz9THlkHyNUX5Y-GjMSzNqhQERLZxuhlF2ys6IBVCNurtl_xDcYRb_0_ESkZN0AsmqytKuIodBrMJPNJJOtafynOUV9eA6uPMgxW7EuVK02i6Zb0QY0m2u5xS95J1pRCmg435KtoMi2QnlkQEh4D4paLI-2Foj2yJ6-0sxozX1782iFIkWMIsENgaN41cysAI8kR-veiXkkfrFCvLxGxD3UUQZdOXGea1oAjn0EdH4dt4gaTV00xXos-DDgyYxh-YOat5HmHcuLE7lBG7hQm-_HHGEMXhfxbyaaMQIysHXEUATetbU5h7TyQjd-aLCj8lWZh2I3N0U-8pfIK_M6PzfMbcAezyeRNqu25MzQh4NEW8w1Gd2r2qQ-eEY0fmUL1bx_8w=w1920-h910-no?.jpg)

Mill Creek Coal & Coke Co.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HoSUKPl2bsstZUXbEj1n6HLUXlpTkTbNov5XrRs8XqaB83k3WO8pkJl8Vhn9BU9DkUyjMvjpdxQOCBhM1N4goR7xihYhEqT1eS_fQtShZVnJDxEridL32JvsDzfqipNAozqBt9YUM_hsbYYW_R8k6LWTLj0Pi-_XSzZKhm23PSUbIrOQZfROhf_F-Uq3V2nI-kjbLcMyvz4l01E81ln7fFB_wtac6mcaZurHYwS-EXBCclE5ZEjs0E1COmDwAjcrLZOtKOOQOng8oDDyB2jg8HQK-FDw2DyPd1f5uZYvsXHUS8Ufpo8LE0eFRP-uJsL_A-rGEDxI3X-dUOW8E9zbHjziHBxvBAtkDlqFti93FHX1yqXiCGOWp8fDbHNu6t3DPp7LgpLjBA4gOMpCOYGUZ5B8oycQHcC5rcst2JGDyQcH2C6D53W0-rzfgPy3iysJeRpPfCSpq1VSMVsCFdl4EZF57NfbflersYWWFrfZE7k-bvKcSCHeuPEldoxMPMebM3ZuY58nDQWfTe-CbxqXSjtuUXpGaAitHMpBu9Qwv16Nd6zB4rL6kNq4j9y-qM6LGooPFqc1QAGmtpuieUXcMKPfjttzdX7udWLrn52ZgsRDqAK6KBZWsACxeyrTYhZOsxOA_3ixllfV8aOUfysTNXkqP6xlwt7XLDkDBR5hejQ=w1564-h951-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: svedblen on April 27, 2017, 07:43:13 AM
Awesome! Looking great. And all that progress while keeping us in the dark  :D :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 27, 2017, 03:19:59 PM
Here is the "new" part of the layout.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nYxyfDDSO1g2cDW7Wx8hewCVBC8tsgARCv7cbjgmT_9LdqcF8o_8BiWIiwW6H0ybuTasVQHYBO3W6KtSkNrsowQaK_fOmpF1ZPhCXKkniv8bX5ez6NtzcDZxkGiofGzlzqzddnGCe6nDvQb7p8ddpSHWHbpcFrQkmBOGQ4OWD8mj-_iP-dOL-uljW5PZqZ4-HiAkIEUKD4DHvnynk2Ufk1f7D7C7bMWRxH5XChoUaddKsGqSANaTfDJt58zJeQIRTUGc9gCNddFd0xXOa95Sal9yrp3R--6YCHWB3C5dcWTuOd4gt41m2OiK1-tkQhhUsQVTQ4jT3LJYSH30X6zfxJapCOL5TS48fScVrUB7_W9htEyZZLOljb6v6NF-KlkLt-v5Ncx3Gq4rQZA6iDrc4Mne6oe5MRr_6-kbr7stRsZkNkhVQmNdjZ0RCrGf-3HXbT8LfitovSrSTrDEew3Mr_2u4vEUxVwGXpu3TW81_EGQ2XYBI1vzXD4hetIqvYOdLmHmKXIYZKAiKkBs_I106QDKR7MJHnWTbcwjjscyjiY9whqms1t_bXsSPXTGYmKcJwHspuSsb8M-qbU8w83MZ2u73O3_T4hCqyDXnnpaTutp0bV7IQOGR-nTlj_FS9sYkvXQgwR-VqTU5w-5ljajvpXW1qb6chJcmMvqbv7jE10=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
That pink foam at the top left is were the main line used to go through the wall.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/caKfvESUDyEk1r_bcab_qAbGRfEKzQfJkM4RHRQWn6VIcFou3wmLBQEHYvmrxOVXKHN-UH6OpMpj_aAMQ0uSvhCOW9Jvi3rJ0oLrfjs5OZ8Pt1aSdCd7_qBi0KWwixitQlH2JkpJP1VeD_Q0s_0OPKGaANffLlSxcrMgWR4mn2RQE9TO9r3uDFeSmonpB_qWIJ6PvcZqAGSPW3W1FAmZMQpsGp15iot1BY7Hgv5i0eQvvmzkaOr6UHOS6gYvyUl_YTkTtr0ucKyQ97I3ecTFdnggX0p3x5HOFF0K3NkXMD6QFcyFK9DgdMzXayGczDOo6_5JvW_kBD8Y-HZ8Zot9iu1f6FTEu1DNt8e7xTYbAeckS-vficAZWA19KWH3Qp88_n3WvMK8bY0yBQR0pXHOY8oQsrT8nQyLq7tdzv91gkVJVypXGI8_ZPFCDtNZd4bAJD14cuudLqQARpxYc_5xZSekmSN-gbSLuTH97c0ltl69tx1Gfxgj4WBGegPaWBEiCTCYx4vULCK43U_YVW1X4cyAvoEn3FBjgNTpLR3WoFHoX8kJZi0-n-wg_XBeabdUqLMM0o4qiYx6hNVQ8U0DknoE9eetfGxGXIMM924hQfYi8xLQLV9cOmvlj4uV6Pfq2sOCZiLxYBHbk--NDZTDMXn1LKaR6BrGn_dTUjlPndU=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
That white block will be a company store soon.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nH7z452zi6HmmHbgbzVBMWfA6SFeNvTEZg93tAFHW0IuZ7wyxxZllvUo8V_Y_Nv1VmEqXY8lA199fjTvxEAvoNYeBsF8xpUz1cTwWHlMFUZ_aXmr8wGMhIkLj5eH3KcODgOwO3-5xNrHx6le_6aL5TH3UuUraGG8wb0cPNi4VWlOXE32LeDou1rk3aiVJXyquXzj5t5aSmn5N-4zwvfOYcq84tVb0TbIQAi4U3ZF_BM2JbIGQrnZDGi5T78vaFCFzBlo_kp2YAaE5Q5apgu6jMIeQwirb9ZO4iF1s1F7Sn_JIxRsALoFVYZLpfCpdeU8McD-f_TLpSHaBaN2wqhJgvMhINH9Sghrz1G9z_WZcZFIdUAjFN_mrmixdHgR6LRB-swIDzV6Zn6JgBy_rYJ1Iw3IwkfRmYE-hhQfMZb-0vheJN1Kfh8v6exvEHzelYeL7y3UkasKUcXfpXFjm0NGb5pqb0spPgjN6QWApdxlspWX0w1M9cvgcRAs60YEZDn0titVygV6QHcmsRfRK709UXZii0lEb5KFrYwNXDegZo8IH9i2dV0C7PhHi_uY-zBkgezKi_lg_8qIGpwp1wedSV_nrGN6mQraSq9ou4iMdr8A8h4Tag6pTeaA31LwOPw_cCq06MB3DLxqkRsAAoDbnzTor5u8sgK_nCqCjtDNmXg=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
And the yard/dock area. I had to add a "Lake Newport".
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on April 27, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Man, Chris...  I don't know how you work as fast as you do and yet do it to such an incredibly high standard.  I love that you're now balls-deep into narrow gauge too!  The narrow gauge mafia gathers strength...

What are the stats on this layout?  Curious about overall size and minimum radius.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 27, 2017, 04:39:27 PM
I guess overall it is 8x11' with a 11.5" min radius.  The long part of the layout is built around the center beam in the basement. 2 of the support columns are inside the backdrop.  This whole layout is around a month old  :lol:

Cutting window openings for the company store now.
http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/STRUCTURES/SWANDALE/CompanyStore/CompanyStore.html

Love freelancing because I can use all the stuff I like from narrow gauge railroads.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on April 27, 2017, 04:46:54 PM
Don't forget to add layout #4 to your tagline!

I look forward to watching this layout develop, I have a bit of the HOn30 bug myself..
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: narrowminded on April 28, 2017, 12:15:56 AM
I love these things. 8)  Will it need a little battery mine locomotive? :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 28, 2017, 05:57:05 AM
Days worth of company store work.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AB48SgGKtGNMRFlDypkOlgL-flHiX71ZXWSmsVznjz6oQXl3uuIz0wC7cKD8vOrW9TO6hDLDzU175l6guJh6pUL8IXqCo25TSHULuXpOqJnc9VbH7x7qqb5tcyBWYoBBZskX1UI6TC02TO_0Z9R6wf2i3_ySkfN1yGLFSqHa5pr2agtls7p4_BmEV2vpZPbIVytRIEIZ9VMg6Z9U_mxiXnD3RqKMwFlE2YvBY8reiHtq6JmHB6R2wW_tZxypy-sv_ee9s_Tkw_FmwHY3ag_zSe5jvu7bfW9usSaihaTl9Vc9OK6MYP7U_Z9ri-nnAR96CX88JffkNvag-WqS9woWzRGo-2_VZByc2RHfF0QRQH1vhuRpGn2oo7GF1-PMH9TnuqDA6kWCRiBH9LnfqXXYUIGKvBCKY22WzGppaTjtCcNYa5MoGJT8F7GxKbPoLLfefgG_LPpC8o4tn_qQZ140ilMphfcALFewxbn7dnMrISOZIBKT-WzllOiA4-Xp5qY50Le33skMgFOvmkdfo8XtRLzVm3xYM2Phpw2WsK6PF9Pvf2vOGOXIP2KKsR0NGQfhoPE0aIaaWcqjISX-e6j3S2JAXa4xMvWJkaoQbPolFcVgvehDQVzKcNKAFRNowJqHiPc-cP_1WRvZw9KMCFDJBza7rvFpaX4oalig38ouTmo=w1396-h951-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on April 28, 2017, 07:02:32 AM
Here is the "new" part of the layout.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nYxyfDDSO1g2cDW7Wx8hewCVBC8tsgARCv7cbjgmT_9LdqcF8o_8BiWIiwW6H0ybuTasVQHYBO3W6KtSkNrsowQaK_fOmpF1ZPhCXKkniv8bX5ez6NtzcDZxkGiofGzlzqzddnGCe6nDvQb7p8ddpSHWHbpcFrQkmBOGQ4OWD8mj-_iP-dOL-uljW5PZqZ4-HiAkIEUKD4DHvnynk2Ufk1f7D7C7bMWRxH5XChoUaddKsGqSANaTfDJt58zJeQIRTUGc9gCNddFd0xXOa95Sal9yrp3R--6YCHWB3C5dcWTuOd4gt41m2OiK1-tkQhhUsQVTQ4jT3LJYSH30X6zfxJapCOL5TS48fScVrUB7_W9htEyZZLOljb6v6NF-KlkLt-v5Ncx3Gq4rQZA6iDrc4Mne6oe5MRr_6-kbr7stRsZkNkhVQmNdjZ0RCrGf-3HXbT8LfitovSrSTrDEew3Mr_2u4vEUxVwGXpu3TW81_EGQ2XYBI1vzXD4hetIqvYOdLmHmKXIYZKAiKkBs_I106QDKR7MJHnWTbcwjjscyjiY9whqms1t_bXsSPXTGYmKcJwHspuSsb8M-qbU8w83MZ2u73O3_T4hCqyDXnnpaTutp0bV7IQOGR-nTlj_FS9sYkvXQgwR-VqTU5w-5ljajvpXW1qb6chJcmMvqbv7jE10=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
That pink foam at the top left is were the main line used to go through the wall.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/caKfvESUDyEk1r_bcab_qAbGRfEKzQfJkM4RHRQWn6VIcFou3wmLBQEHYvmrxOVXKHN-UH6OpMpj_aAMQ0uSvhCOW9Jvi3rJ0oLrfjs5OZ8Pt1aSdCd7_qBi0KWwixitQlH2JkpJP1VeD_Q0s_0OPKGaANffLlSxcrMgWR4mn2RQE9TO9r3uDFeSmonpB_qWIJ6PvcZqAGSPW3W1FAmZMQpsGp15iot1BY7Hgv5i0eQvvmzkaOr6UHOS6gYvyUl_YTkTtr0ucKyQ97I3ecTFdnggX0p3x5HOFF0K3NkXMD6QFcyFK9DgdMzXayGczDOo6_5JvW_kBD8Y-HZ8Zot9iu1f6FTEu1DNt8e7xTYbAeckS-vficAZWA19KWH3Qp88_n3WvMK8bY0yBQR0pXHOY8oQsrT8nQyLq7tdzv91gkVJVypXGI8_ZPFCDtNZd4bAJD14cuudLqQARpxYc_5xZSekmSN-gbSLuTH97c0ltl69tx1Gfxgj4WBGegPaWBEiCTCYx4vULCK43U_YVW1X4cyAvoEn3FBjgNTpLR3WoFHoX8kJZi0-n-wg_XBeabdUqLMM0o4qiYx6hNVQ8U0DknoE9eetfGxGXIMM924hQfYi8xLQLV9cOmvlj4uV6Pfq2sOCZiLxYBHbk--NDZTDMXn1LKaR6BrGn_dTUjlPndU=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
That white block will be a company store soon.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nH7z452zi6HmmHbgbzVBMWfA6SFeNvTEZg93tAFHW0IuZ7wyxxZllvUo8V_Y_Nv1VmEqXY8lA199fjTvxEAvoNYeBsF8xpUz1cTwWHlMFUZ_aXmr8wGMhIkLj5eH3KcODgOwO3-5xNrHx6le_6aL5TH3UuUraGG8wb0cPNi4VWlOXE32LeDou1rk3aiVJXyquXzj5t5aSmn5N-4zwvfOYcq84tVb0TbIQAi4U3ZF_BM2JbIGQrnZDGi5T78vaFCFzBlo_kp2YAaE5Q5apgu6jMIeQwirb9ZO4iF1s1F7Sn_JIxRsALoFVYZLpfCpdeU8McD-f_TLpSHaBaN2wqhJgvMhINH9Sghrz1G9z_WZcZFIdUAjFN_mrmixdHgR6LRB-swIDzV6Zn6JgBy_rYJ1Iw3IwkfRmYE-hhQfMZb-0vheJN1Kfh8v6exvEHzelYeL7y3UkasKUcXfpXFjm0NGb5pqb0spPgjN6QWApdxlspWX0w1M9cvgcRAs60YEZDn0titVygV6QHcmsRfRK709UXZii0lEb5KFrYwNXDegZo8IH9i2dV0C7PhHi_uY-zBkgezKi_lg_8qIGpwp1wedSV_nrGN6mQraSq9ou4iMdr8A8h4Tag6pTeaA31LwOPw_cCq06MB3DLxqkRsAAoDbnzTor5u8sgK_nCqCjtDNmXg=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)
And the yard/dock area. I had to add a "Lake Newport".

I always look forward to seeing your work Chris... It's very inspiring, especially the N scale Erie HCD as I'm going for a very similar look. Can't wait to see this one develop!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on April 29, 2017, 12:05:53 AM
Chris, you always amaze with your quality of modeling and pace of work
excellent!
thanks for sharing
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: jpec on April 29, 2017, 09:56:31 AM
Just beautiful, man....the stuff that you, Dr. Vollmer and DFF are cooking up is amazing.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 02, 2017, 04:59:58 AM
Messing around with this 2-6-0 made from a Model Power loco. It is based on the Godchaux #4 that was used on a sugar plantation.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QD14Asd74l8KRw1GYkMGW8oj3A9xzZLY7GHNKEHn9worNG6nBl6wOtfunXDDmpMeahVDvlHdOXj7K0StL1FGwUusYEJV83cmqVtjjlbzslI7JRr017yyeBOfRYcm59qEy3yHDNkDCqCyuEAGg2avsHHM0zJQb8UaNjcRlXD-NXTPQB2upxVUYlTY9OiW_qMZsBn2ZhUd87uLu4GETnESB13jXTgvfUe6fhPsgxFPxU6Ko6tj1Jt3j0SjjzdqIud9XPvX2I88yNaNwCJ3UaGcCV0dFtOVhTNW84vlcfS1VU5rQuyjtPxFaXsojp6xnaKXDvmtcf0G0lAVXd9dSwygSadvl0VmY7zKuwsTNXBRR9vJyDOtjIh1LonMJqpYvXnR-YEIgGt5fI9X0OeDu5x0KLS5fiBKX3fxO3j2qM95q8gOzHrTCR3siAieXOxGBdzF1p8eV0gewZuV3ptyMuuN3FXsRBp1uVL4aTD75R_XBNL9rWZyce6iwu9Rxpu-17dmkaWAsgCl5-9VkIbzPSvDvNSPgWbeYSaCdeIeKwGmvKaD4kpeDI1X6FsDFrODJSDNh56oI5iMXkxXcz8v8-ZIUuTlO3BYOicSB8X2ze_a4sShjXuAOfLoXdO6jmRZ8L-_nV3Lh1kTwboCms0-2xCPRm0ZxHnGDZ27uQTK1WMFH9o=w1920-h937-no?.jpg)
The cab, boiler, cylinders and pilot are all 3D. The cylinders are pushed forward a bit so it matches the scale drawings.

Wondering what all the hand layers do about this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9DPFUEQlkIdi-SbbGAJ_8rLA1k75ewDQIlleW5DGxcQ2MQP-6uozUdtM4mqlgTrD11q90zoJxkR2qtyDyg44vVDCrh81Xqgb-8ymx3d6SkVj9rCDY39lgkhX95k1bfp3IKwHdo0kFu0li6fRHiNNDGfiyKCWokh_YmZ9gpp_h9g1aWM8gUepeHwrBLMVA-5MjedbXk-ATCetHtH6PHYp9L-gh6b1lpgjA5CO2x7Fbgq66etyktm6fVni2FuLiW8uMi-FerC9W8995QzSQxb_brdHUQ132UcpSnC6i5BYrWNtymacbmA9xyNj6rCS07QF5VWqgLuzywVWaHQDf1Knov9RQ-2wGQB-8MIeMSsbfavVgUq1NnoZHN---DQcQ9iCfQWv34VJ89NjEmtpb34uZpxgWtdye5JKp0k1khmlKwWluIuluovLvA1B8BkYoO90bL1cmUZ7IophytLwPg3BblzXDRjSMioxeiZb75tMkIc64NJLCbyRQSdtlaOjwA2jXn1XtqV5ZKbgj6Hq8dFjbj4P16klqfJIdDKzFELnT2XkMP0HA6e_IRmFfqoSSwgFbhNqgn1xOdTT3FCy0ChGpE8UQMFixOCIVkP0-31foV-T6ysgNrbR4pooPSZtIXi-irODPzVVLbDRqaUerP70EhNK5Sb-vhupaFFRYTpl50=w1039-h951-no?.jpg)
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: bdennis on May 02, 2017, 08:54:07 AM
Damn good question Chris.. I have the same problem.. How to cover the copper ties where the point rails rub...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on May 02, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Neolube?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on May 02, 2017, 09:27:00 AM
Neolube?

Yep, I neolube heavily. Use it so much, neolube is a verb around here :P
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 02, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
I'll give it a try. Thanks!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: bdennis on May 02, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Can Neolube be used after the turnout has been painted?
I built my turnouts in a Fastracks Jig, then add the wooden ties then weather the turnout before installing it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 02, 2017, 06:48:29 PM
It worked over paint. I'll let it sit a while and work the turnout back and forth a few more times to see how it holds up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: bdennis on May 02, 2017, 07:32:14 PM
Thanks Chris.. Am interested in your progress..
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 02, 2017, 11:15:50 PM
This was just a quick coat, but some of the copper shows through. I is darker though. I think it will work.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Q4xZHDjs0ok-o6KwQm29I_dMnoGSx4CQviRrbdwUKo2xYHTmM0Tuhm3pQ2ekfrQJ6r1sZo1qzUGfcSCht02o3IQRnX8od9B3u683Ku_X7T3P3OTPis_cA5KyIfeXrkDpqImz3unT4YxW7ey1Wlx2k4wLMNvRqEh1As2-B3J2ZWDSK-uRLOnJbkWIsJYA8KYPI3wmDFl6MJycpBuTmw_zI9oZ3pDY2cEu1cMTQGQjV4jSMYjlVdrj05CyAAkH9mI6-kHzTaOEfuq13hY74KpG12UEomqqbG-H2O01sDYzF4vPeGx3DFQNYvtjEAv7eRxtjSLJi9TLfWUjcz4qYTnrQ1gtcogtJ2To3m-bYMqMMFkD_a5rHwhzEF0TmtzZRgJ1cyetJzSbiWcuOW6UdXRKUMtX6oCqU9D42kYNQ49QFYx7NqxXvL-GznCzO7ZBnXDu1TY_nDzRZLHehcDP15CQDUj5PG65370BDWIyAZIBuaGWZZ7_GGvSoTfmMc0g3fR-SQcfmEb6C1Z9h2aYQ0COpoDRt-Sn46Lqh9-QwxKaSi9xNKDkLpb0uivW7C4-wpC__DO297I5qG2jkzn82Hu0mAaFlri4L76f-SUCgwpwwRxwMWKj7HlAnOR-OS5rHqSp1KSYzEB2yyCFbyIXMqJhx-hgIACHKj_qDbsbKsn0w1s=w1016-h950-no?.jpg)


And got more work done on the company store.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AmJ3iSIcY3OsqL-22R8aXLVQE_FmN71E4nqRzR2A3dnUeSGWk8StVnL21xXJPTAnfaLIQAmllm5QLmrcTR4_gnQFPV2_d03L2zjvsnH-ZjK9482GapDgLi2oN-JyqCryS_E7IieZIKjVnidizmP-MNh2B9ybsv9G4V0hGsQYWUX_0O4K16lO5pyqefyzB9-Ki_oW9IwWojeFBj3_006sI9WIMd8RdG5Y0iub1NQ0NylH6AivQNExC5kbpaa_8jpCkRDF1CGJyA6lYzZj5aKX9-PpxbN20uPTbDf2U6QOpIL_aJfzu1v_TLCUB5R3DGLvVR01Qt7XLmwdWfzJyzrHVuv_xp5T0_jD57Tkn8tRBiYIox_9VS11csw0eMg5yRhWQFn-ri1yMMKYG0tAHfcAKspUysVzBUCGfqhvz77yBkNF4XkV1HOmtZ-X7OxyVzDw1EmyBYqBCm0rzG-ucs304DVtJfJcB4l1A9T2uJqWSbUaBqRJtCoLcL7tCzPpFVYTVz8aDVp2_RJCCKXiRdJkwK8O7X7nTvK5CIwB_vHwqcS_VUgSKMzlU1t80N4oMvW0pJJYMYSFLr65vo8al8ixZmODKUIQvJ-oH5vm6telXdJdx0pKPUatv_botVMLJwADMIESra7M9SnujU40hL9lS1u8jmu3KRiB9K4NFibypmQ=w1740-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NPxSjKVwOnHtpY-GPOD_rtmeP6_FvjT_NJZUeBAUM7kPI_d-VR4o0wlYYN1SNYLEHLVO3xsLhQn99BmT5ijwdc1mqRxLfTrKp781pHNAlX1a28jbt0bRanlK2E5ehzGuBAsAWO1lAhr9Dz1p3HpuO-_eP02MHm4T8lZ-D19AvfW7OjFvLC6IoOW8AEsB545PpfNUT9vT-W4etRkGBScgN3wksdqJrF8Nr5c08bRLE2-j7CoV1Rgk0KDMpYWEcSJTBuNcFQS43PZSGZaZj9sBV8F1kBupOhdAgNMCvdRyvZppF5RNivNbEFjjyR6YBKlvGN4fo6kI9TQaeOkdzKz7r9Mh07BaikcIJQzGFbrVGI09RTUGDLZlmavdIgdtqPuWP17JWD2rM8lZgFZk_4QmpiIiMzXKylI_jRGnJelpJURzPhaEQa0ZdSG7uAfFsrtQc7AtcbR4A1QIbp1HqFqN5yZO0wW4hIa7p1QYRnPKvqG8WuNo9KwHzoU4sssghfeojrt-2v5Z7EAtrEifdLCkJgmBZUzdsXMN00XRbfEc-Ktg1xIipBeUWZdJr_3MvRidOkkMT3Fp5jbP5kMRzTP68W_GIsUU9Bbst8r1pssnAFIaiq3XTYq5YBDbGwUT0oXYx1YfPTrEAcbsZwpHC5Wrt38GXv0INkllnDzIjpykcxw=w1799-h950-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: bdennis on May 03, 2017, 02:34:42 AM
Thanks for the update Chris.. I will give it a go.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 03, 2017, 10:57:09 PM
General construction of the company store done:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bTXLOuK8Tl6amsex-ooZXF6ckXgEArlL3nzc58K7zdxFB15JEcOhYN9jDcTRwCRNwgZm5TMrZ9oWTp0CwsUDlSC4k2w5y_MJ3Vh5LJVuLpllsM-6qfujNQ5vIYjVYNN8o0SMs83iPt8pAgJ7WHJf7R7HEgBJLw6gjMInVNoHAdrm9K3SIbbWacJML3TaXMnMBbuYw-OPmcYXbDhnwGlI_nH1pg-1VOf2l2rBzNWIL4NAayVBkb5Docd781vQzUG4vXkXeUE_PpHbnf8n9Qq3S3XCbopXEE9SmP2SlPN6wBlNQ0CreNUUcHJGBhfg4UkiFyv4RiKY1GcTpbFLfImiSnVmNEB1panb604zNk92mv4X4_kPionU9A_pfjHyNqa0-seq5d_8WICO3kYUdzUtp9YPXKYjYESb325hsl7Im1g-VfKOV5_ZaD-f986YMNHjS5HqiB2oACVhzTC7je5N26KmH04jrNvcVvoCE0wEe9msY995mP_t5G-u1iCpecJ6gXxbg4G-Bun5Na0sdbUPf0GBgPYpz_KLN7CP1_EW5Ex6eG7_laoMNXnxTC8PMWAzMo0rVI2Te9oWFmPUNwsdZCmUlURU0ClyEMiL-JYRMfoB9Fw8s2hzsZXb-Grjj9eAHvlRTZyVFDEiRIuWaslFFLM9ZgRcX_bvEk3z-J-unpQ=w1436-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JaSC_rZ2NJExTH8df8P4XqZv0dvi-4nXNB193L9Mw990tU_uskKlUGlG5cLxWjcVk-qt5AaAUb0thJHmM_xxDszoSi012ikoFm-Uny4MptWn9v4VPq4MMcDoozeN5yIK0x2fOYeplarpCBIT8jGHLN5h3WT4K5epuauI-d6N-CwUVRRomkdUSJEG--IGTMPfBspPFRuHOL_041ql67o80O_VurJa4ZSRk3GOt8h8QSl-saMh67aARf_9y6ZmsELPJDFmF9aICJ-sVssC9uhaEzKv2GHNtxLbqIRlsGB8dIsWpYTrgt4XiDhQJJV_MMmyARZBJzbqC53abyJE0KyeH4rKek62d8j7rHxgJCCPrptcwcNrL4etumIeWqSAR5QcfAx-0dfeG9NLlFOhvCUf62YfHdmN0HRF49-hkoS3k4jVZXniYdaZQW3LpUB98Fka_g4SAHeMPe2ikgaNBb6kLDjXsaKjCYNsjOJ8HM7Y1mZBLKmGlRQvtImAyrADbgxGaDuAw5eGan5DvovYnDU0Tsv_wa_LvnuKZNmiUWNV8s0YWS-O5r_qXS_uW8_aSWXKpFBACsh86gmT5_ODaY302LYorljx11CZVVd65yr7_gGtAoG4Z09g20_wJZ5ySEgEnvU0xV5lwk42jOCUI2Yo4Eq9_yOMJQZhbImGpzm4tXM=w1920-h905-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 06, 2017, 05:34:34 AM
Image dump showing the town area coming together. Behind the company store will be a row of company houses. The buuilding on the corner will be a small hotel/saloon. Some other business next to than and then a small farm house before the bridge over the tracks.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wvPHLJ_bsfF_EiaXGw3lOX4mc6xE1xabaHL0a9mOcE62MzhFLbQyvCcuEEdjjEkovSCUJnAT03XkPaS8wHQExZO9dwWOhw2D89_agh1XsXAMeArQzIS0ctrGHiI_GYReeiHpEATpg3jfUr7VyG-YfnIe50veK-kgYmWmD7yDz188iUZaQU4Yv8pi6WawvPoD42kI8BQ106UaUj-fsmN1ReVgqBloXBonP1Bhnm5A4DebA49BiEfgkTi1JRn5MekrqxEDKL-GbojNlTMo5EUoCHa-H8C_0Vt1n8y5j2cGA_sxjGuvzgb9ECw5bUaCSazZtDWfgkiLyHZUB6xB8GFn7xB4JjCMdnFHLUC0VQ-Q31qdAFpxa7iq8JDdc6--FeNOgaX3ZqJXkecHTfl1ehw5czYoMZRNvaw80D8ruVZzelHBd021UXxDm0KlU01lOWDUU_EVZvDEYr-vYUyQq8uLJipu7atyGoXpn3cggkfSYgXJVFKJCb1baKYbfEYSYrJKOthHuXjNSG_MO0EcjwEk8y3eK2TG7-9yYZIDuarEpRsB5pnYCDLDkGoMIFsT1MQ9UzJOHxd_BdtBm7Ew8a9swXW7-vutBMicnEHEukPTY_it5vXHX2l8v-r7NbVVjrcqEaky29moT2jtq5oZWVvc3HpN8EL6y_PHwJP7OgGZSG4=w1920-h770-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3r8rrNnPf_L33QZBJ4YiuZYN__Wfx74YnfY6F7EXTz0DqbzwiBGZj-NPY6HDNFlV6UB9LaQjFy6gnlDXKSMg85X2opPb309ZFONlDw763dWizm9Q4-RxJjlFXN2zAampLVeL15QpCiWvzckN3Z4_d4co6WxznCRTnw1cPEDJXsnByxrkBhN8loYP06ofOPkC8BZhjc_aAgYJItNA2jPwnRX6CzxIQL4a8LVE47GaTlXU9bz-jq5-CHerPk-y7bN4g4t89_heYjOB6K6Z3DdFLigSfHR8NSVKVQ6aOqgyInFTn9FJT6LxN-kEU5JC9fFbeEOahYpyy-6tTj01izR6UsRcgSQM2tqHwXLln0T3bzA0k0SoS3qphz91DrgAfNqzkkBBKco6VH4glHZZBc5gDEESYnKsocfuRQTwNMIuC6ossyxlUNtOR8tFN3-wH4Mwklf9u9TLSCD7Ik_9BMq-772lOToBRPofbb-u-lHFiZbmRxeqPeEdiKo3Xs8-3-3Z3GcGFx6MKCSpcR4-jMTkvjafGBo9C0ncKt2DKLeP3UKsqa2LFnfdCyKVm0R9z4X1H4ucM-PWBdhJNZC3CDVfOcCj6hOMyeStzLo7bTeTvr7xQ0q-rE0sAmXZ-OqZ8tDBc4hn21ScC2p5hmrl6WtWIKCNIV8F9QsQor4F0n6uZLo=w1763-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c1CNGHeWIj-bePAX1gKCU4i-maQ6RM2BlcfuRrIY9DaF7K-lX2O45vljA2DqUv_AiHQdgfxN3kfvBHOQPEEfd-nXh0pHCmUHB_u0mqOl3NT9a99c0UvVHGvQ4VQf0LbVZoCflgDQfGVD1S5BSfu7KTDIjC9SevuY9PhrkYi2pJIf7FKbThfoh2qNZeQSVs9A_SJrYaseIGta14q73vB7uTdsYfe0xBB-PJV54iJ-LfIzF8HLhOo7cZkK5ldE181fMZaQO99Sx24BHLSu3Z29yujLHDaK_vrf3q-T3IZJrHZDWboBLqjTHqbempEh9MoxtZBHR2IB61ZBGqZmwOMZEPZLpksFWimWFeBbYV91ufxGe1hwYT4LnKaNGPwFrVZQw6b1ghhju8AV_nTB02FqBUn6HmIfsl8ckcYTerYrZmH4xnxZ3ltHNzir5RLwL0UnkLTRvSazCDnoPs9kILKvv44hViVYtHLpp6bvfG_eiU1ny19ok7Pd0tbg9tLSdUvN05FGc3goLgym4d1pwVpl-EuU1_f891gBAmvD01YYVlk2AiubbRtuFZ6KJcTLlrp_L9v0Z3GRycMYLO-XwMSc1NATuz3_vDwozWlg_aC3KFaBi8X59ApfRYDDYZ-1L66zSU0p_pK9zcBl6iU50j1eNLo_CANulIxRyZm21uOz8Rk=w1817-h950-no?.jpg)

And a peek over the backdrop at the small yard. Starting work on the enginehouse/car shop.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hoO1WgRncgR8rqrguVfdAuM6TL17rE3pdjGwjDwRdCaLN5DhWzOBvpKoXuhMw0ac4l2krekHyV4bLn9qHbZCxx3bzMI3cGGv5Gb2HqDGucKTxOZ0j8InJfTkSLd69ROGiytIhkdoowWDs3Ct4LYV00_aQDpKTktRoxBa9Ez3Tj97BQo9ObRQ7r7BscxoNTy7Jh5tYftOHd7dso6o4VpqkT_mubuvfEW8-JFd8lDRmY3Gus5SH6-_QxaaXnfb61UxYElf9ILXcf8pcLA_MaGHUSQJ8pJChJC2n1U_yFsLmFRfYn6JAB9AOG1-qCF5mFS36O2OB12m4nSST1giEoHS-f71lr90pkmV0trJ4y4tOjTUC6JLdYqJp46OyMfLuj0mzgLL9beYA_b0zHcYY5jXiiFGZZN4YT1F6RoR8800Pa54UwkNL-ODpxUGQnsksyr9wUd0pvmAMs6OOs_HCufyGr7F6CEElPJR9P-Se7MXDcmq0hxxB5L7uq3XMBBRuQuz6FrdIeMhd0qLcXl4phLvRNK1hUipyZDdNkUblVkxRY_xEC_O9qTA8aG3x1BgiWsD7yrYRv9TSh6-3uJ_3mdEMwrTZQ0Yjhm_CMOt0OUmX_a-lxscK0ZY9Nhxj4wCkB81xw8AzJcDMB-AMkPIO7ZJmh5HZaVf7k_F7AxI-FQtRmU=w1689-h950-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on May 06, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
Damn, Chris, you work fast!!!   :o
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: OldEastRR on May 07, 2017, 01:32:24 AM
And Chris follows LIRR and Daves V and F out of the N scale universe... . who will be next? Lee? Ed K? Chicken 45? For you know this exodus will continue .... sorry to see you guys go. I'll miss the bigtime mainline modeling you did.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 07, 2017, 01:37:57 AM
I've had a HOn30 layout in this same space for about 3.5 years now. Just recently gutted and started re-building it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Philip H on May 07, 2017, 11:49:33 AM
And Chris follows LIRR and Daves V and F out of the N scale universe... . who will be next? Lee? Ed K? Chicken 45? For you know this exodus will continue .... sorry to see you guys go. I'll miss the bigtime mainline modeling you did.

I think there are 4 or 5 semi active layouts in @Chris333 universe, at least two of which are n scale. He never really leaves a scale.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 08, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Corner hotel/saloon. I was going to use the Walther's kit to the left, but it was too large. I scratch built the new one using plans in the latest Gazette.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QTqLfR7_EJR3xhQW0kH8ZqJ0_57yN8MdIPlVGc3or6eTS_Qh6Y0pDccYUq69r9ppnzB504RxQN7gzxMccv8JoS5sB3eMv3WuvG4TsnVjtEJNSJDBWrSxa4bgPNdZY3NpuDdREUX2vNYogXdvts1A4BM0HkKIcFPKmN5nXAui1TTB5zGrsHCHpDZb6Grk5Ik3LlNY6cxwzSDJDan_1bd5BiF8eN15hnOdqsWQcEYQeWn_S38lkDgKd92Og0i_nTwz_8Vhjl2wi56swvqlo0NcH9-ZiPJNQZ4pouW7CJf7A4jLsBDf9wwHojRo7YkGkAfSpi89SGh-VcUlPhiYD5oGtFE5Qp96oiD29zezO1B2qITVyMtJG7sx2VwjBMSdb3GrouiI_kwfNRnzH_rMK8oUEKDJNnfsnHrE_BM8ujBDouAk-ESq2ut6mR23aVPISwNmqVeFvyFlu_PeLyZu28KZbJyiZToT17KRNi1SW09nA37J6S3X471WkfPIzQ8WrcXnnnN2Wvbt8iFjgBMnn_s9RySp6w2rcK0j5dMYEs4ZSYrRrnTiUdyqK_m8WRF-CVs20Llhi_FKo8pOiqLgqU1876BIiZuCRF0k4tENrv6NqAY3q7gbShQik7rGaX_qDdwJ_7i1_uO_qTFeIujK1dksBTeEV3CLGpdXi1738mlufw8=w1509-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WPejeJrqH7y_Pv_fGJHc1JQ_Ed6iy4tDrmENK8JqA87042NnbjguknhhI2gjfCP86xfSt7VzGBG-AD62sFtYs8exfAtqFToMhvG9vKrv18CyL66HqC0lg-tiOQFZOI4sBLqFsUT7OLz4fdp3GTIlC71JMl5Ou_UMXcMB36lCZwEk_oYc7-sOW_iClH07_-3s9bxrX8dxChQpW_JvPqRAkgzSr8KQcwgFC50cJP82J2m1pTcuT3FHmJQTOKAj1_HOduS0KqlExwIv4L2bDaYj8zR8236OtrHIqloCZnd7bVBiam-Dmy0H9EFnDSnRhvlAJZ7MVvr2MgNh2LtknPet_B3bXMT_N-WqQRSu5fybt3YDKGTLlwP2qsHF-oPiAPo8mML5bir-gNrhpD5Nbb0G_XUilqWIeNbD72UOWVIS-MDgzM2OS8sqf2Bs0-okPO8ujLwkzhmqWMzyauKeR9nB-_gWTLhRgQ9mbO8Cx_PPgpE6QDDcrFyqyJ86gDmd8foZi3gdtAL8afrWCpjWekDDl48z9MF0FHExIHdFm_rLOB6HMsj12QIh66mjZijBqxxyeTevDHwwwAkh6v3bRPzht0MEgkAwY0klbTsKnHrJpxSYvTUcxrcwiNSC9LfaWnRR1T6J6Isa-wwIV7qJuMaTLw-TA9rQWrfQcRFyErj_Lrk=w1055-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/L8oQPkl_4MmmSAETk-b7Ujag7519cRuNSEns7OK-XsYGeTnUR5ziWOGLCewYhxbSQyq3QxtFW6p1ITcHRf8OsmSNvgzw7jFmZgau5xg3H86RSiyHkNb_dZ78x-wBuyy2UtOyQrSxAdAAz8Qp0XgMz9BZyMBgkvcrMz9WhIzIQK2flAFpf6ogCyHR30g6k1p6ThCHPCVTQsdAgQa-8x6dOgtl-AZnFgnGid0TRGRPBPZ4aYE3ET4aWt1Iwan-60bjqZ27ZYTSBvXR_LQbzd7itZbESoq1KA_8TdQszz_VCUkI1JIlIq8wERf7TK_svUkjcdwDS-jwCmC2u0u-jyAAC9XgQppSkBf7mXtHv5KDgv9aFbO8FuGq8I7Yuy_RalIzNIUL_edhbGz1qN56ny7cJb92dgqPxmmnMHCP2dg7TWTThlNmcQl27opswAPCxsyCcKueC_ouD-eNOeYVoFaBAs4b-dA8N8p3eXSrT459wy2Z66JXlQGdhLLtuXapS2IyDuJFAYtBhFVlnjAfou8lHVCO2zE0fShJihk5hNKNh0Y_ddbI__XCCyxQiMnlq_FxDE3CTrheEGjA43BEy8RWgNm4K1Eof4Y4Tf_YjNLJo_YVqVs7vN981LJF5KJbFA_3Xc8x1OhhwC3WPs_bgpBUt-RHdpzLark7iOshRfiAM3I=w1101-h889-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on May 08, 2017, 07:35:20 PM
Very nice! At first I thought it was painted and finished out before the roof/side windows tipped me off. Had me fooled, a testament to neat construction habits, no paint needed to hide sins  :D

Narrow gauge doesn't do much for me but you have to appreciate great modelling in any scale. Looking forward to seeing this progress!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 09, 2017, 05:57:09 AM
I'm bouncing all over right now. So I started a water tank  :P

I didn't want to buy a $50 wood kit just for a pile of sticks since I was going to bash it anyways. I like the one tank the Tweetsie had so I'm basing this tank off of that. http://www.urbaneagle.com/slim/Cranberry-Tank2.gif

Grabbed a $7 buck Atlas HO tank and started bending the tank walls to make a smaller dia.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZZnF3HBp_Qqr-8IF0WWqurylX78BKbZhwxoTzVirNyBb0dk_jOc1Ip2n5Tvg18MK3Ltr_B23QS1F24e9bjBGT7EVVEYlRuKjq-gcDZA4OqudEXC5S_RtZmZUkY1JLZrG-QsQi-3W6vTMoCsciIXF4dEEpKtiuQo6oQeOQaykEjOp5gPpQxERD-Z85gVZCyOvVstzSScyryNuDijgKYYxBMhnsg4gDu9AppogUsYNDRmjRACH3oLp2JtBh7ILVzNq12xWrN_tujxtSPJ058yBq1Gtq2R5_PsVxzr59tFrySUjgTASrza-7YJEI3pwdIOWVRWtuHO5aZW_-LoGesMb6KmstH5jLmTIntWJznNj1SG4KX-82mcNsyiV9vLluklKXaPsMR_G958ewqi1LePGf1Dx15dAWdx9dr0qy77Up5jNgGeLpLzE6JWvNmaN28rJKpGRwvmAd0c9Jn4Ma1UPihTBvRc6QLe8yS-oHlnPnQnE1ff5tpoSjygm1S8xPpD4nTG_pROloxs1i6x9YqKeik_rzYGSAZ1nB1nDYkNEAeTjBxq6VINxB3QZcxzysONFMMvAq3Lo6mCEldOZ53uyFwt50KKUIYOc6E-5D566jTW1bkQNYIgvPxR0NX7Y9pcmEs9hGhMBEYJ0pZRYWjhAIN_OXmnP-ctSkSU1sUqhHeg=w1706-h951-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uja9fdqIaCx-2eZ-Hn4EIDAMVS0rNZKywXFkhIjpz97ZRUsxHIZF-rbcCuGmuTtRnlF95BM0U_-mXD86p2ojr_j7B55DqESQeOhQDsK_uDGB0et_EMGzxlkq1Flh0ukzrcHHP-zq8CfG6UohIM7PsLqDvs2Rb_Tnlt7lZ1hL7OXGxhq0SUJk1jjdCUQQROmF1k2QAxc8R1hw8wYiCczkfXtawb2pHexBUu5ZWHb7NpNynfaR_sKc-ssWXwbLC9DagdR-QVLKQB_3MlKI5JTDqqX2mlzZuivy6D7w06rl1_vzxMlfgVVBvhED7mzg09HVEAGQIKp2JJulalpVSMLI3Stl_OpMxCQELV0miJN9gDXCwyh2wNkt8PKj1HuEu5JAA8bgww6NwzDO826EzVI8_HuZmhW84WgWlIjWWZFreuUdjUSHSl07hjkXndibGkO9jTn0XUWYr8gXIyCMMa-FICquJ464M-Q3VbgcKYqkpW9TH0Zr717dsX9ZPVr0YRutsucyruybWfgWlUjz0SNcV0Zs0u1d4koieDxSPP80BU6ivpOgsbsowmBlRedpa_-SP3trIZ4MYCEryJJNHxTnbe258J5FfVQIV9EGwqQ8emv0f-dctXAzRB2Oy5vzRXiE6BUm1tfkONk3gKG69J3UpUtd6Fp_z1R9N0Mfs1n4XRk=w1806-h950-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 11, 2017, 03:41:37 AM
Just another boring video, but it shows the overall progress:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on May 11, 2017, 07:14:05 AM
OK so we go from a bent green piece of plastic to a video with the water tower basically complete. Haysus Christo.  it's no wonder there are seven layouts in your train room!

Beautiful by the way- especially love the "suspension?" bridge... :D

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on May 11, 2017, 09:01:08 AM
Looking awesome! Always enjoy your modeling!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on May 11, 2017, 10:24:59 AM
I suspect Chris has elves that do his bidding...His progress puts us all to shame!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 11, 2017, 02:16:03 PM
oops yeah I got the tower built, but not finished.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WYfJyeXWBwRBbIx-svA5cLXYr9O0lRr88wgvc8o0vzbIrAdXuAn_B9j3VoplLvCXOCnG21Ed7uNu64a1Nio-TwEVnuJ5RgYxvlqFUfXwVzVfScctp869AZsTYAl028ZwdE-F0VKnZGjuDy0BilFPobu3_TjTdGPJYQXK0yJPjlA-t8qNz1Vp73GC0tvInVt3kgKMSMnlMxWRGu8yZrxm8amvMyyCJ7iKxRU3ZnhPOMJ99-1rpoYpUKmTmMuWyuEmTDfK6_ltQAOE8_YQemWU1RGcOG3gYrVDYierBnTlfS-TMG5-NP-mJ2qDp7MysJYpQBnLEMfcI3V_Xlm8dgUG6Tg6cgdaQu4bRFAJDCzFAp4bagwMr6OexYj-jQnHMUJTxYqz23pAk-N6KHyWco8L_0Sl3ikcZi1xJJ3izRjLfwzcgzytqd2VuGJ6cx6i6hZXOUMBRMtlLRG44IiVpHEqzJDyruC0RhxU5agRD82q7b_KB8B4EsHBwNqYlMHKmHE6olK4dmQJzYW8CypOFfQnlluMcwMfV1DIT4RAtrUSyJEeN8Xzqq1_D0hMP0FlrRO0y7nxOTSQeOhHew5OUOdBx5T99smN9-ewA75pH2ZSiqPl2Kf192niGo8McC-V2Gu2f40XpP-FoR0U3dE2DM98jLUqw9UuurZJaxAQdbpVK9g=w663-h950-no?.jpg)

I used as much of the Atlas kit as I could, Cut the roof down, chopped the concrete footings out, etc.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 12, 2017, 03:25:32 AM
Because glue and paint need to dry I hop around with projects  :P

This is a Model Power 2-6-0 that I'm converting to HOn30. At first I filed down all the boiler detail and then slipped brass tubes over it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NnypKS_JFo1g0gLJ3PVCg5psfp38VNeLhXUvmjp0KUPPdpWdeTVkgMTdECdm3tvPTNmdF6ZkeOioYKoD87huPT8I2jO9VGuw8mjZDIIdxzJGerZAz1YT5TMWULj4bBKxHoi5AFkAqH7kGWW_XklwGzI8U2Mxxy9fhEjImjJqYaNd30JIR8hdS1ml5ucmc18gU3cCF4C0bLuyqkyoP3pFaYpTnQsfPep7qzRKSbUEB925YNCXIB5iNqnOCIB8KJLNR3qd9-0rZ5tl9ncXkdgtgvggQBTU1Nws-N99tNk7-D_5XOD5WRWw9_gfFC0_URdwMLTIXvaMbwsgx-w8UtlVZ8C10-ouCgOWHT8D9zDJpCgQwptKIkoBdccFKKUVCGu-bzLb1SOTrZkJFPl76UDCHrOMDUcHSK__-Xd2S24jGYScFAdspAFv9oWo28OhX2zZ0vNTLduF-K9itXVqxx9TaSXdefP9hrwSRQ2iCBEpJ2ARn8ObhD34g5FjX5ElIYdF5Com9CYNInnfi6yb5DQIpl8lvt-80q4GYFB7AZpKPybvkDG0bbdhI1FcjBpV-nqmkHut_3-SYHp1fjs-ZbL7TbPqGddlUWXcPOieUMVupk4uy8NZFQezOs0z1pqmAgTJF1B8sK9oPxbkT4R058-f5v7pTg1vxE5sZXGJmNT8v7Q=w1766-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vePXHvyrAySwYpP7pXmAv1dxi98c9p4OJwWFBAQZmZyj722n6l_ExAmI57WZlC7FYQu12OleDJdUd5DpVlsfDXMs62tCgMOuknefRtsPbkLmkuPZ_ugJm5APtW286O5ulAEn4vwrhmKEaawNQ4HO-UUzFjdsNKYGNlsDG7Sk70bpqyJHPvPxN6ymu8PxsUnhcIw2P1zr6_KlxhghdYI3RLELD0EHoxA0cFfltq2pymap8eXIx_1WGNJS4FZhK-jv_h1ZP6oqfO4Pcpmg95Ydr8r27vVCKiK4_XUOYSNdB8pQ7DczLstW3336cyaYerhYxxHZ_RyUHt0nRInExsE5lUWiiyE1fxUXOYxtPT-E7p8oQ7hn-Up1vwlwteYzWnMdDKzG3uC5KoZ3w_S3fIOu-y1DTE2JiKDHW588y8FoO9eSgDupfGXLw_6gf1KrOcUCimBtDzFXd6S9wcGQ6LKHbprvnM10WS18PTXEtsjr-53QabXlaIhWFhSuJxJlQSv4DTtMoJRHEY_PgbKVmsLYtXAxjHP9OQDVMZmlHaNTtU9s9FpmXqKksh0lp53Oeb9n-RAzsFzYaCQOUMnR4yyxSdJfQSxsARRHAcI6sFz_Z3Qb3eiWW1IDGplGDoP8xRj3__drCZ50uqc_AOtlZQnqWLT7DK0P_8u1jqIBRjagq1w=w1736-h950-no?.jpg)

Then I decided to make the whole body in 3D so I cut even more of the body away.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RV7zIUOTCd9Fpyf4OuYIaQ5L9-iJQCALsaAdDsG8r6kE059F9pEFH8vXkWFL7Ze6BRz2oUhgdy5ciEHRxpejM2zWOiasIQzbptddZDqWjIDcwvy3_ZyRvNzUZViHdgc7ioV2CcE9SzA2qD6oLLcOYFGW68hp-AqiXJcjcnM-NOSg2xkarzXdBa5VQjstpY5un0H5gb4wnoHOmm8jdmJEptAn90rcYTaOzdSwif20uJy1TiZ-ualFCgE4CFTAeJMfZhCpz7jXMi5UKtZkS1FvMYQd7BAl5AHezs83AcbzQIVzz86MK-2udsJOnxDsMkPHkrbYiP0FYKKx4FNwNeWpo3PzC-9XPRAWnaPT8Zx1d9beIEv69UqM5NUKEgw1oHIEQEPmC5HYFhi3iz5ZZRE3z7dca5l-acMAieDzObkQB9sGsZrKykp0bXilFgok20fDTKYVX1LMuC1A8F1LBf81O8xwkceDb1GZH-o3gVDQahAvLXYWqvProwRjeRsmXvJYdFAqMmCgx0AlUd09egbmJq2VZAESIQly9khMhtwAReMt4Z_mYbTXoT_sw4Q88OdfqwvW3EmUUXJ2rjELEVpQJf-JV9l2X0rdAuVLeyVyJrnPjsP4Oi5EZGPk8kqXTN-cI8NmHaf3Or7z8e5vWA5KtDlu0S24UBaWTvnpXvHao8=w1787-h950-no?.jpg)

I moved the cylinders forward and made them larger to match the prototype drawings.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/e3T2HSqYhsAXu5Kw7TfMaQm960ECukASrg0hlJOo8e3C60-51huO_M4HEw68skMIitmP1kwJrbNnLhfPFO_53WmGgIpwX6BX9R55BJOfu5N1JDQsKutQi7bVzQ1vULaruwJ257e8L1PQ-31AQiJnnl8sxi_HDRF1KnezlsGySh-OmFIklEXsscqD-RTIlR7e3ywZm0CT7W07XO2UuKWem-EJa7rpdD_h9Nxc6fn6lVbByAU8B184pYNqFqPZBP5jBtXhj020KY0utcnpoJaeRSx3S3wVX5jn5KLis7AaDEWMEnSWS6w24YN0Z6gXipmLZkia3a9Hw9JYF-IFQUyfGIHnrDvzIKBwsEI5CpxLjNgzQc5v3tXbk3P5AKERmEdNjmdvJUBnK3B1qiVeraMm7Ssqe588DQpk_t9OZYGho0MAxRj8AuhpIK-_plm20sQvuWO1yCr0_VrAXhp_KEvRnO5B__Jk3yLpiyM8z4CGIUZIQxGPPPBrbM74bvCET2H_Km0yO6_xX6kKmD1OLaCt_cD3wBWTKLzWJoovEOBsZ_dgH5kJ3110sQC4r0LTLihVb3JWiMUtMQQrUiDD-QjKtI95Y_D5Ff4fQKx4fPsCvqSV_avsgWDcA0Xv4igSw9S9CXVn8qq_JX7W2BJz-1IxZJEo9H-OGk7kPPOqN6UGM4E=w1077-h914-no?.jpg)
Primer cylinders are 3D. Original cylinders on the left.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 17, 2017, 08:03:51 PM
Small loco update.
The 2-6-0
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PmkJOONPAuTqDBcpoK6ZFwNad6lYNI59hDLtdm7hsIKJV15loaT2XjmNCwJABi0xaa-JQm8b8blVqVIqRvwaPGIDu-uXeHAzZyvc7NySB4_0IzgETfEs-yAtu5U2sZ6PeVhbt4ImtRtkoN9ekLW4mlBc2h95IqQENlE5MVB5TDIh3nTapBkaLltKqesfC1s8bjnbJKGbt37XrIwnRtmYsn19MyvqvgoLaKsqnMQUL6EflQslyLWEmfy2ox5bFnRV3teLhp4iq9K_XtmJfjXc019Y2JXzjbnnb_IiMGojy7UEyRjpeWYqMsatLKte9uN_tHmTO4QJ_k5cv7GeIRoehc5DgfUCorJTo8qvS8JvozftcZs8UL-RbGeuzvYylYLAKbkoxzvvnLFvcqfj-1A7SjdSwBA1VS_PdYmxhAI3tWIfqsny2hepY3ryrkVlMew6ySXFWe8ju3oNaS3Ab5dMoy4D7Sf35eWvIUpjUWW14wuDeD-OeMLG4JZxb5DIneoRXV2LwMjzifPS-Gj8s6vLpGiJ2gHmnsgpjxR6Tv2rGIwDedt43LEV8NhdyY7OR-446ZFwhnT9vHkCR3IWuKmUPrmpYKOCTlix9mmabKDsrvUdLgSsa_ZrmbCUPhYfxaY_Y4vAZegzano1HJcwh_kq83uh-HWtYZJo0gv2Ojobhc8=w1563-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Y92IUn93YSZYIrxvlSVaxNEaJPW71-MowuSIl5K9E91VQ2qeHxqG6PyrVWz_8gpzuy6BXd2lKFhYDKY1y4_-r5KG8WvGfANvsfHmHsazA7lPoJgJ3oW8Y_egGUE2uwEFrzmCab0Xc853QE0ex8R-GKqPeK0sNlucjgXTKuVf9zSr5BQ1F8oKYOEsWO7Pt5t1AEJ-rIkSenATNuAEj3Bk8lWnbpxhMhDeZqwU4PjhT0H3ojC60LxlpXLjslDxioWUE2FqrObtnQB252dGp5pveOkcR1cOShBZEc2dXnWqWULR1lij_D5nXiqqixj684-ciccHa3wIjD2TMI_9QRi0kJT2O_2OqorxOyHCKwb1gAjJo4Vgq5NcjqEhuSRJj00wDvLhi4Y7jp3XT92sxAXo9QncLf34qMrvsJm6jWNRa7MCdHQdpQTq20DUHiEh8pQ6kiNv7dEanAXopTIuNPGYs9vkuLBebDBEuiDrPAnGoGFHONvQCp8lC1sHSGbm2UFZ4uaiHfs1kcuXjtF7PFPg8KwJmKxuYRy5NUOdhBJYMmXMhJ7rA4UZCfK_scVC2gaTONJ__t0yJb8bBz63J-XE56Ae3yHm4p9XeGlR29_6W7Oya1liHbbedc_vaVWYFeNhvL7KexZSgf2-02vtZVS9KHhFa5DUv0tJmeLR_LwnN9k=w1920-h704-no?.jpg)
The tender trucks are from an Atlas S2, they will get archbar sideframes.

And I'm working on turning a Bachmann 2-8-0 into a Lawndale loco.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Rm8kKo_OTxvs7uIRAkxjDiGEcKiiB6zeVzq3DvbWmb7sIoSsSXwz9UtwspDky7Fh9a7VRGf_MglSz3nCsyrgZqymU4o03k9zGCO7r9xm7vVjShZGjWFKzWL7pCKA1F0NijA5W5MvDLE5LPLA6fB931YQOipudzKKMa6cGzQeNkFMwE401asvbC9Q__uv31SvoOr29tqA9fA94I7zkihrMEm57ZSklel1DLPIyaaIPAxeT20839XrfM4LfPItpdo64XuiwF4DW1i642C_ugZHWelFl0Mq_lKLp6N_UxzgQ775NLK-Z_WHSisMgV-FwcC1rceF1BtGFK2MM6h0Y21hZj-5TWQdq0FGw3BjxRXISkDSUbFehFJSgBANgSgxPQtjvVo36o_bD5WQbwPUlah0O7TbswoAvEagv8TBKuQvB2XmoezOn6bgadQuIhB3oMpOY8rIP84gywVG-CACPgi-eP-LiZqX-s3Ob8vOJL1C_tZC4gvW4hyXgQm5T6U8l1oUXUtBmSKE4E0InCnR9KlECBuuwyMeQ1J8FKKlKK_xJequ6CVn58QVxbrlXBkx79whE6hS95FwyGmH37-1GtdmheVXIbXGlMPRAjfVE0q6whFXb2mPzQQV1CBK3J9ZVfZgf2b8WNCODhlQdqW2zg2HqDovNpvROlhwte5xEyhyemI=w1622-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ayrhEJKh-GtQEXbUqkIucD9CTj3NK4GmSPkz6n8LuWo8QZvpdDfYw6-4Z22mcxPMOQXayRZQJ-5lg_XiU5KRabx7Tp4JuFuLIdsqEa3rOM91l_SRNejra0zBnCs-fUYHMvyn_kV0hJly1PlPUgJzeVtkhkLRXsJWQT8xGUgjAwhPRUs6lryyD6-Ee-ldj4uehjDqIk9FXLD-1JJiSpO7CsLaPhroGEePN_zDz-wBkPqxE65alBE2QJ9-kSNfVedZAOmogJXMiRsftJOEt4Q3MtCwEG_l8EUyz3X5391OrtKONCIwj0Tx3MUxt6_b6Hz4bfR38VMByniuWMNl22yRkCNXpwQTTueOP1M9cqaHidnv1sICslfGVK4m94OfjBfa3q7J3UMXsKxPmIBzLNY_TDxfS_TJQd1FOC_yM-sZZb-IObbXmeHBqFEmyRws-W1wZ0J4s0Z99fPTaVZi54VogLgfGJJ0ijsTcyJBdTrAtYxn26igFX0njP2EV9iLe6KVB9ZuHoP7hhmDfc191yC-B6JStVNHN5oMURjhF1u2OH772gFLsLyQke1TeL05gNo_g90jBkKR2jv4ykcHg0o2DgCcIDAWbO9S4ONTAEaeaQqXdcKkViB9AhipFp4Jvf8_EF6HWwhd4KKSUv3R9n4Whbxg-JhxYydeG2zJD39XdR8=w1623-h950-no?.jpg)

Photos of the real Lawndale railroad:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/fthedaddyof3/albums/72157679744999463
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on May 17, 2017, 10:04:02 PM
fantastic work, Chris...very fine detail and craftsmanship
thanks for sharing...
sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on May 17, 2017, 10:21:03 PM
Those little 2-8-0s are handsome!  I've always been partial to the D&RGW/RGS C-classes as the quintessential narrow gauge consolidation, but I really like the look of those Lawndale engines.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 17, 2017, 11:10:16 PM
Yeah those Lawndale locos look like caricatures of a narrow gauge loco.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: casmmr on May 18, 2017, 06:53:20 AM
Chris333, you are a great modeler.  I enjoyed your Erie HCD build and now looking at your HOn30 build it shows what great work you do. The general store looks really great and now scratch building steam.  Am waiting for future updates as you and Dave Vollmer go down the HOn3/30 path.  Great modeling.  later, Craig
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on May 21, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
Beautiful work, Chris, amazing...
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 05, 2017, 05:01:39 AM
Ah soooo I'm just gonna post this stuff here. To speed up progress on the layout I started another layout, yeah that's it. This one is just a small mini layout 18x42" and 5.5" curves. I got the idea from a 3x1.5' "Dawson Creek" layout being built overseas by James Hilton, here is his blog:
https://paxton-road.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Dawson%20Creek
He has made a ton of locomotive kitbashes in 009 scale. His layout is based on the many small railroads in the Yukon. I think his dock scene was based on the Dolly Varden Mine railroad in Alice Arm, BC, but I know that is where mine is based  :)

So pics?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cIvAL9zGKyPhmHLECLvTFRKAtWgWpnIHQxShAsYRTC06_ZsxygF8Va-1KzpCyK2A-lM-nqQ9LTUfa6-wtv6MBhLf7jZ78n3RclFWsBvdfqpRlrzlWxarJjVQR57492nmW64i98TqfRl-EQlaSK1nCUHY_xWMF5ZO86FioBKk128LNmfkByElWEcKpKKtwEHAw2b_u5ygLFBMV6sJrRPtFrjUV50Jn5NBYsyc-SxXomJICfH6d8vFPjngMRdlReZw9GrmeA2umQBFSMvBz0X9ArPEQgngVt7XVb_a9tm-1NBq6uWMWv8EMx0SFIEgfKHuhOX_8Vy_BkFR_yuZY4DY6odROIWILInbSQWZX7Z7bHtONjLVzC_2gOc38vztM32Y63jAbEn1SVrl4rAAFrNzKFAVYSUj9GeiUt_PHgptLQrJbLt8Pwi_eEDBNE3s6niixUJ1AtLwLxmJaJDKyq8TWmMPzmhK_C82F17cSP_xHqSYlGRoKLYV9UwabCDfs63FnSe8hUWhPCGCb1xYUxeCBrbPhMwnToq6DW5-VcE4H7ZyMq405BGUNWF-lGrDmZua8EtlHxeOtV_caBSmt_ESrbXM-SHaNP8S9xly1d8v64g-WbcA-oUD8ocpo2nW2rrMzyY0iMJEuuPPlPni4UW7mFKUVbVaF3ZHFp6QAOsdA1I=w1920-h834-no?.jpg)
Just a simple frame of 1x2's with 2 layers of 1" foam. The roadbed is 1/8" hardboard that I sealed with Kiltz oil based primer (why it's white). The track is 3 pieces of Railcraft code 55 HOn30 flex that is pretty old, I bought it on Facebook. Turnouts are handlaid of course  :lol:

Here is my dock area with those recent structures I built:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TU1WJ-BRcPRXTgtIxcF55VBVadq4aws7jY_DBdW5j4u4JD_r4I_8YDsx4qcTy8OubiPGcPjacc3mOGskh9aY-JxSHAE5LOcvqdVwc5pImgSdf2Oux-6H_rYvF-ghCnQauAaesBAr4BtVNEhLxB61qrR6A2oFgrVzObD_Q-rsG53u3NmZomSVBcsI7iAYTY0yaQeE33b7toTy79Ub3h6bfDPdRcJvZ2comWPq1sLzOqvJ5RJXnhSbAQPBkD35yCmEQ2HYzhE7-c0O1n6L2xCcSgVpsivymftvEcfWKOcDEGaK5M1cQsy_E5XPCrvNf3ssIzDhEiWbxE0lLQAiDbmLJxnnIxrtzEyTIzyPZ9ur8W_nWmNF1yWmnh_H3v3Mc_4a86COi0ki-5yLfb2KmOf19d7j9iDVuhSHPWqpT334SDWPfdtJ92JbX6EHg0VZ4pRhL7jscx7juOcjtyMldhI57C3BURH4Qrqx8ly2YDg1uqRXHm7MrRMy_bB-cYtTwb7o_lCQEAQfa1vDr_WPUSFhAqj0pUmJAwSklQALUpjmXHHil6A08F4jHjRhauv_VHFPdzYLVs3ncDneggiYAx6BeksfJJGrUNCAHUubN-Vg09uf76MinQm-4_NbsZg4Ubza5zl-ywMKzgdeHLjiGHrYOzxpyd8AZMWbZyo0ZJy3eTk=w1425-h950-no?.jpg)
That foreground track will be a dump trestle.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aD77xQL8Q1j9NFmcUFGRp8y3KsSxScXHo38oPSFvWKAFarelymwGLO5wtFIYksGJkl3q7P8WCMvx7xwZTLTYDtzYsj0zR-mewpWuGLDYRyRtQ_B2NittER3I-ajJGnw4zYeO1lI1Dg5x_yL-GABiFr5tW5Lhg5qwjip0MsLPCYrCbx4aDSPYb9bVARiP2lKpi_CGZ87g3p6fpxafV_5J8h5CUPK_ZhPTe80v5lUN3jbeajoL4B9xUJfS32beVLKwfZznECpdTySm2j_m1VRhnyOpU7O3MNklS6A9J-FyxrlFjV806ks_nEujkZkpW2xcbx2zdFQEcKypU5Wjfe-USim7d_Hxbp2180Ln6eP7O4ICQbKRcwqls48d8i9x_EEdOlxaNYP3VejhQbwBz6zNvefjm9wo4gI_eFlaGWr_oASKKhI0h6xlsK22Z5u_76qCx3gSNgY7Rt9GhnlbJIDFdb93PM8Fzn-pCizy-jwi5MwMiJJhVZ4gUZ4Iihm3iCLc9RBI1FiZG9pzOX9XyjxB-jYsv7Wgl7BDWQOeT_oGsNmhMopSuMOPBn1ZAk_xHmq3BrBKs_u2t8DWwTHcNhaecvtPoFWooCDhGGxFDSvhYAcGZQAlmao-Pf9ZzX6kOchyqt-a-PWrVJ1FDFVvaPOGmRYPqnPDqIb_XeUCDtf8kUY=w1461-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/amK2DW9sf3_5h23PMei2HxP-1v_D3vfI1S0GLftaaS56DVK9gfitpaZcvvO0GukOq8_Trc7NdH3f-zV0FHwMcoslJXbarTuTWtw8QSftFs_PNi1cEA9PIxoakeNDrwB2F-IaxMot9yu_AH5qobuBs2EbLb3QLOArbB935t4UDEMLfTzGmHBbtNzni2vFexAUniamSd2FRjumVSVGhGOrm8QrxbXl9jKTEXn43ZANmT4GbAx-s1Y1PC1Ox9O7HE0IQWyB1ErxcaftPuTM0z0Rycuel6uh0j7qZ3XSWNZFxYkybHVg1GTrtrMBISwqDi7p1TL4Rju5qBlGLRTaU24fxUFD4xVvgZ9d9BhzIgx3dT3muks0FO9kGCwhmV8Mib6hmkrfI2AxDw_7TdBMplAxkZrCsQqNJD1Up65fXY09GI2-3u3Sf3pezaGhZjFKOBcKt-qU4nb-uba2kxvd6LKVlxzAgxVchN-oiEt3deN8SpyQKSyESybjWxLrhRE4d8G0W0BzE53eRoAJQxHVefxB4ey_Ukl5kBuGCSxc1CSDLDQTjZkvsl5011yH969-am4kQILMKwz6Nf5b5xR4uIjQiihYk14KkCpJqNLnqecNe9x2PEuv8ionT7qiTm0y5o3LPxmp_IZLcMxmItt-x9RUs1RbLVP6o_XIkGCmtCcBkpw=w1548-h950-no?.jpg)

Also I'm not modeling an inlet in the BC or Alaska. The Dolly Varden served a silver mine. My layout will run coal and I guess the dock will be along a river. We'll just say it is in southern Ohio.

More to come... So far everything you see is only about 1.5 weeks worth of work.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 07, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
Threw some foam down and glued up Cripplebush rocks, blended in with Sculptamold.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HHZOwqFPOmyeWdxVsM_i3fJWcibH19FeCzZo_7IlbHx00IOC5e0YFeW1DSjbVBiUMx7xC3AdomqE2ZprnE79Ls5jHbVtFE1CTXFKQU119WDke0_q0sGUwxR28BV_sfrRNr-u3wiBS7xqcLUw_5RRPztAhmeHwsju-Jdd6-BOnNeL3Xi3e0560npFOPRCZ9pUwaJmTJBpc8g-naU9f3j7Ws8FjYzr08hBPjc93_4IbJPIJoxBSVI_RXVnREb2rQzTlkZKeYBeCl8OfQoqrL36lXHMPy7hgLeKpD__8lEzFc6M7u84d9okUKUF-65baEj3a4jVZ5K4BIAfJgwlI6A1wF4b36hUF2wJitOSFQqvt0p00FQv4mNnfKXfVZ-I3mvYiTJBJzSR0JW30_96p4Li20QU2n6jhDPh4DF8zVAjKNTxZNY76SizTVeZ8QiusB0l0KSgz4hQHzjVKb7hZu7IwqMRIknEMnRDjY4ztd-H3R2E1pmiUVr2aCkjnC3gwIUL_05qoNoJBnkyV-M_CJt-PCjEnOMFZ2cTvKHWI2Pa7pAgd8APEHW0iLOJps2Nc-RlRWQ83XMI33-c1aFRh22Vk9oh80qn1FIevrfDFiHdPfojZ3IG4tz4DqfTYryTGyP7MSCBkQQPUoVT2w4ZOBConlDPb01gp7b_RMd5gf4lhHM=w1920-h933-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on June 07, 2017, 01:11:33 PM
You've got got more layouts than some people have switches!! :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nuno81291 on June 07, 2017, 02:17:59 PM
I imagine your new "micro layout" will be fully scenicked tonight?  :facepalm: looking good!! You are always full of (good) surprises! :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: jpec on June 07, 2017, 11:28:59 PM
Awesome.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 09, 2017, 05:39:30 AM
Close call!  :o

I finally installed this little A-frame bridge at one end of the layout. When I built it clearance was established using a small 0-4-0 Porter, but I also plan to run my 14T Heisler. There is about a rail head sized gap, but it clears  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9AO3nP9GEiZ-hcfa_BLRv6Y8tvgpTabo7dq1OqyqWv4lEq5uJ6UKRzBijrI3rOqqrxUXYFJ_SbIqjpB5A2l1iQ_-v0O9GH9jTD-qe70YdcXJGSOmWtvVPuk1Q8sSduA6BxOi08qyDiRnkPemuu1MEPTILwwQeAX9M0KU-nAsVSSVCbpTJap18SLIurQysWXm6pqn1ZlDo4sIpSxY5mr8Tj7Qu_XD784ThQZTX_EYiAy9k8vw8hurFU8ezj6fJEm_Sl3dpNmzigC88I0ZTzizUFz52yDY_rzRph5IJOwvOagpVnrTrObW1b15aEg2jL48cOvoLlxOZC_tCqGJffVNEeh9xEqBlqk8KtbpPdYoaO-YBYPDcdwsDY26yB3s_Mb5w-tEds5AUIkfpY8k6wU5tHxrJ2LB-NYdq1q0om1ahMehqerxnqN-4jucIMr6yzrmV-lNalLreRv-bwwcALFgYS0sxD5sl8OhrymTcs-pAvgfmCSSTDLu_tjehXDbdP0kiePXse31PdzpLOIo2YLN733eQPH0Gu06mdn9ye6L3G-zz5wTsGnVGlB-i4TLuXsaXEJfFeK2QEcFeMLkWPXP2ZcskINc1GXT_DEUE1YzWSyUtk-w9Q9pPciFWigekrbH0FTPaVYWSqvXAK6Fwvf6dyGcJ9iUa6vyWf0FNVXoSs=w1689-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tywaTQ2ajjwKk3j1Z5qYF-rjSPJpdgQhJvUbysfI6tfJOA4Gvxp6R2zJbLGAFR3NSa-K9_BrrtNt7Su28rDoPw_pXTZHAklI996Ag4i6U3XBlAvjL3fDeccDu-UQfb3GAhstNAsXlwW-C9rpNaV4C6T8U7PL_5UkZdsreXnzh7fNLyO_eD5n-nigqZ3RQ1k4fNMLXuM-zyKLErQBge2N8rFMahZg-5bGXlgHClsKZGoZkM-Ry_2kHxyjhp3HbwT8cN6-eEK3Ui6mpt_VzHLUfKhCutvNf5qV_t3Aeq--pmZOxdQ7PBlfr02DrotJAnUI0Q8K9NkzgvBu-DKwGqn_S-OSp0CgFWpctoUUo68XmLA4SPUfOcGem9vbpksw4bBzWBuJrYi-Il2Xso-GA_qJi-Ly4sRoJkNvbxQmDkspOsH30AmCu6V5dUi9KFNl6Bb3POTM8JuS-UiQyenX7BzqVUTAbZEfA7YGG2n0EjAWJl2Ct09uWsJsIv7Oh_jJpZlOfh68NvkKaj6rZDHhLgwD8oUOmKDTdbwgywmfbH9-AtMfA6HJs9TU67sZOl5AO1g09UTnzOIwYlE8gNGyGDxHvprXVIiz_FbHVfGMvxYRYnVYyGbPbnFYG52tqITV5-TIYGsoIxgApsyWXMU0kVq-EkW2ffY05EU7iUFvB0pVz2A=w1422-h950-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 11, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
Photo dump  8)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JxqzybPTDD_UGdsDszbvGSrfh4ybb_odXZ90DYJsPl6iak6n6sWRNlgnI8L830MUNtqS19H1IYuoC7ORasnZZY9tyPSqe4WIYqqBHiE6Jbt6hCtMqYWe_Ov90wIsCgHMvUZnTtAhh4lAXrkhE4WT5h5K2bCE77nxT3efbrvj6vMpfVDO2jIrlBA8YhV-VAYyhQ2DlzjYkijuwQYoXKEl_e8gAkG6iPBt6y52nkj9O6k0txvB_QzdMS4zHMTIXKxTU635iuuZR34fzD4Qfo_l5KKjGmahVi4VRqhV7pWKhAp7JnSgC5gOZDqZBvPY8nUtZc3GQTrdjT5CsxxJ2NC_hOU6yJB4UVKcDdGqRP_6Jgp6KSLd5Ji3-aXoYyhrtSP9PeRN_651iipA9ZYlaMT5J90SOdKYLLllzMf6FvxzzHzO57TuHZagNW1gj6zCgi-vREJsSB0MGZzpwsvdi8AQyeJCCo3hkGr1NRcZtd37sLB0EwRaUCnRW8IU7SQZszOEdWxHWpZnE8VRAbEKiLAtRRfsmqRkDAN7tsC7_3GA3Rrdi9bBBp_ikUSrVS1GVuXEln-ICx7Dl0w2iBNjujl1bEO99XLvivRXSJ4j49fQKB92HKTsCPHYrSptwhd4B_rdnzA06Fhj04mUd9cJLtgnPha028p9tt3P2LljiNo5cxY=w1920-h899-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Kk5XUC8DTVT2bIz5SjIG8Bpu6xQzuDONSk06HqFkPsPUNwYarwSi5imk3s0s0OPyc9-E3RBpzB82uyASQp7uS8VVllaOU_wf1fsdWt0ZPkLdVWU0KWXYiEY8wlgFuWcPRq_qMpvqcAuEjFQqODQpvomMx_ugQ0zOxecQhCfJtULD74ZcosVGD7mfnUz69Mt7FMizQoW-gnvEnjBpkWyl1STnhpmJ26hOcjXd2TcJ0x9pYzFya3XtgERpCcrj-3_KDbG4BD6d57tXGE6f1Vy765kXLi0Ovb-wn5R-gKt22_-rDIUaGd72vMLMnQHJ6hdxo1Kkr-zbvbIbYCTkHj3ET73euKwWdcBm-2tu65sacVCSY5dY1ysJ1c9zXdL55FS6qayzaTuovV1cEPC2WYedeIYcc_ceNgbsCHCTnAgsIy5-asZ81uW81TJH5mDX-vCE8SW0wyMy1KdZUXKFCNbwQcqqQo_n9itN6PpeQ0TxjgNgjml-sHzpsiBjH8F4mNkOAQj6CKuqjfklRPdjdv2SXKzVNr1_tvNakC3EOlrmcT-q6UuZt_MwpQA_6D1Ml3vxC2-8ZpZK93-XwpgrrPKcpfDQuzDWYTsbKeeLsf7YAJIFMnAVAoXfyWEJ4w9Jgo3wXP6xjvDJoowL2DohCR61LxdEO_45Zocw7YW_nW2qv4=w1590-h950-no?.jpg)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HKoAYnKwFNC357iwRC-O2xFCkhkRDOYdSMZiiYpUIISskOgjuLmdrpCX5GIgBFS6bjQDWoyYMdwVswN730qoJGUq66O1lJEPkRcdNHooFzv0VqUBC1yr_gjBP5r-gTtpxMLkrtDJNAPxUYYZnJhp08EUSzthM5xw8YlWW9Hoyq8pG_8Tiv6zW9LRqolk_XNvdAuTYrN37tFsaoC_EW0AUzXY3UKlM7Oz2YzdpFRjMDTZJUk8NidzLad4jThHQR4ChpWeoCwHeYPKEVw49uJtnQfy4U7Z9TsQ8jjVj-dr3LhZDCdo1OCOD8wc6bzG5-FxJ9Mgw6zy-WIuJLRU6nFn1ddOpTOE126AiQacbu-7uFOx2c82ChJWxRRuoguZ091GkuSlCTWMdJN6g38iTFNQPn5rYcGlSTknNefkklXXbF0BczcjBpfptlCbxz8gpuX8_Xf_WGvOfPiYK0vORG94IHnQP1Sb-OOPaB4Ev3QraJX8D_TnDOSQFcYgyd71Ocxi3M7rdBZGTdd7sfCPMbWjmbjzhKwZ-psho0IvkSk478vy5ZmiZUJCNt8M14GPutRfZ3EuHGMXSq4WfmAT1oGBPxs8mQwk9sBMTIUNvvLVE0di_lo-JMaJcj8lYOPB18hOsYOC6AO-sIYF_ijHvNjNlresnHSsOGmLCV4tze_YMIY=w1266-h950-no?.jpg)
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BTW none of this existed before 5/27/17. I drew the trackplan full size on paper, then flipped it over and made some changes. I started building the engine house and once that was done I did the group of buildings on the dock. The little shed is a resin casting, but everything else is scratch built. On 5/31/17 I bought the wood to build the layout frame. Once that was done I hand laid all the turnouts. I've been on vacation all week  :D

The engine house is based off the one used at the Eureka Mill along the V&T.
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The small coal mine is based off this photo:
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 13, 2017, 05:55:33 AM
Just a heads up. I recently bought some strip wood from Northeast Scale Models, about $60 worth to do the deck of the dock area. Later I found a bundle assortment deal on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222536043036?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Good stuff for any scratch builders out there. I think the guy just has a micro table saw. Wonder if he could make a custom bundle in the future, hmmm.

Oh and I shot a quick hella crappy video  :oops:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 21, 2017, 10:49:05 PM
Some progress on the dock area:
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 22, 2017, 05:31:45 AM
One more for the road.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XCYLLhMyjJY7KfqfyqT3irY72OXLOnrZ5RYqwZf2lU3NKspElhPv61VrP6_XkdxVekF9GOo0vWFmDCWeqqxr9g8wMgI-j2u8wYwi11Mlhp4uIlkApbMcyKgHQjAjbFxVIm11WV6ivFMVcSPNaJI4F1PSxLZ4GbMtPN8ehpjuU0A3flFiGhd2zNoJ5hrLebB5nBpY-tks0aFpFYgidq-cZQMB1R0RUrUU0SkExVrgPCO6EH-jnfGhn5NtGQj7csLqtdKY8oMJtrW89U_ntCxhNBTvm02G4vIJfO_dHlpxbbc72-fdmF6w4jPIWDUqaiRD0Isp0c5orV1IbLYEv7b0OUkZKHJM1jM7OtiE4q9yXgexGS2aJBGulkYAM7msGQ6dFelOETN64aSgInrEX2LU5xe8ywLDlxhMNzBabdE-6RaXJNqPkdpocUSY6tN4SClJ-XgMCqxE9CjhEZzlcfz17jFH9UZB9xaxdNh3r_wjtko0yscKHTGFKIflPDPTA1m2SKCT2HgOcEZ1YiF8mLZ7r9nk-fwRUYnWxSb6ZPpaLR3JJJRwwipQ9tbjqxwzMBXtKYx8fb8QCek8nZCFmTlVAeCtGqp_GX4h-UUxXCMnipDdp8Ur-9UfjIfAN7-Pu7CZ_AXek0EMvsqSMZdydjHwBteWwrDsY0hVLoXmGuR7RRM=w1421-h950-no?.jpg)

I started the jib crane. I planned to have this further to the right with the track running through the support. Had it all worked out so a train would clear. Then out of nowhere I noticed the boom would swing very close to the big yellow building :facepalm:  So I added the little bump out to the wharf. The jib crane is from a Walthers cornerstone midstate marble products:
https://www.walthers.com/midstate-marble-products-kit-main-bldg-10-1-2-x-5-1-2-x-4-1-2-quot-26-2-x-13-7-x-11-2cm
The staff and boom are just about cut in half and just about every part is modified some way to make it look smaller. The control shed is scratchbuilt.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on June 22, 2017, 06:39:34 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pPv0V5Ye7plKzyv5SD_kt-1BfMf4dXbntKIJr1z3bZkzZ_BwzAmQlTLAqipCZr9BrXKfufCPxbsIxHCpQ_9zW7aXpBLfZYqPHmI0PskWXp8k3Af68kAHuo8Lt24-G0UdwiuLd1M5QtBywnBOhSHdPjZM5qKq0z8CcYFjGd3uUnnslf4KaIcl0ourxrHgF3zm8x-5pjAP5jjLB3TsReIIFj7WJ0DYuNlXoSOajSyI7h4arOwxnaIcbEMyxQrhMbBNJhuexpPE93v1yE6Kkf6uoY3Q4TAcwf1T0mhztk6b4ZTQMX43a8kzyK67jRk1oQIl9YaFxNL8cAe4TG0uZm_ri7FKLKvLguBg5p5Lziy5yEnJgfrcZhNoY-cgNn6mr57Ix24Y0SV0V_34kBtrr7GhJR1VSpa1xhQfMOaGeaubz_02q6DCu_JhU-ngnEQaYmLj4TWGU9Ese1DA01-AMtjfTkoPMNIygvqGaesKxsNj5paROUZCcMsYmFDFEjzOOBy3wz_gr2mk8OJOSFOBzFuTwbUbXddxdmrKOKKgvAohQTzSDKraq3AwkYq1maMCWRGfAdX-C5YZt_d_Mp1_92CjNnQdJSqtXLl39cELM7jkRSAmbkAGpMdZ-hHTXGgP_AKboRiUhLbV6x6VAmAm6jI8_KFY9r6brJ_URqdZr47ExCI=w1463-h950-no?.jpg)

@Chris333,

As always, friggin' incredible.  But, one suggestion: can I talk you into a piece of cardboard or styrene shoved up inside the big yellow building to hide the fact that there are no interior walls?  You know, so we can't see all the way through the structure.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on June 22, 2017, 06:59:22 AM
Loving this little layout! This may be the very post to convince me to build a narrow gauge layout to go along with my N scale layout.

I'll tell my wife it was your idea!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 22, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
@Chris333,

As always, friggin' incredible.  But, one suggestion: can I talk you into a piece of cardboard or styrene shoved up inside the big yellow building to hide the fact that there are no interior walls?  You know, so we can't see all the way through the structure.

DFF

Sure maybe I'll even put glass in the windows  :P  Since that photo I raised the yellow building up 1/16" so locos would clear under the notch. I did it in a way that the building sorta snaps into the dock to hold it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on June 22, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
Sure maybe I'll even put glass in the windows  :P  Since that photo I raised the yellow building up 1/16" so locos would clear under the notch. I did it in a way that the building sorta snaps into the dock to hold it.

Under what scenario would the locomotive need to go that far into the siding and under the structure?  It seems to me that only rolling stock would be pushed back that far.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: migalyto on June 22, 2017, 09:07:16 PM
Just got done reading through this tonight. What an amazing job!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 22, 2017, 09:19:48 PM
Under what scenario would the locomotive need to go that far into the siding and under the structure?  It seems to me that only rolling stock would be pushed back that far.

DFF
Well in real life that track extended a little further onto a dock/trestle thing where other suppies could be loaded/unloaded.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on June 23, 2017, 05:54:43 AM
I love the tracks in the dock, really cool. And I would love to see a better pic of that Heisler! :o
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 23, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
14 tons like the On30 Bachmann model, but a lot more correct than the Bachmann model.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JZyixDM9EzHnhC-dgPbwH6Ju36MU_hfiAkV-UlurOPn6pFbFTIemqbmqppGGw6SFTdps75iE964ZWy9PZRSEAzud0AdlYsxvszGQNOpDkmnAmUv86oDD9s2eu17gSDcorQy70fEmfq-IgLt3A7s8iaqyH_W-MRfYpWdvexBMeXhmjEAwWDUl-AFGgPVs_l7dlpS_WHyEOfgDshlf22giVpmdIZTcAGeWwrQaObW_L5Z9vWmCqlCKxGIZIxKUbZonr0AfGymWyHlcKhgIA2cM70TMhmFYBqqPWe-7lbbFkeA0Y2gi4Gy0JISZKRHRXpuYfRK1tI9PqoR56Sxi2pmlhYoEyLln4Vw_Y9d2K9SemctdUrVVr8jhNGxuEhgk29w47bcpLnuEvCPJp99j_AEchaT4TJB2ezU4KLRK-N1O_BDMGibV9RZ8Ij2b0gXXtsqcs2xIXO3D2SKLSUMcgbva6XmhsYAkIcBx8_EdvWKNQaXOh907jT_Nwo1mQISIqZF3v0mCsP9E8FYhQNOWcckM4tIDVZysbMdugzQakts-hV_9rigwY8HkNR7hzah6gi_tMCc5u_PS7HNhCKj8hqldDw4qhGdCwCWCmdsf-O7Mv3opBMM7jBsjtyAYu7oIrPZApAWj9o5ISJogH-TxSIa5yGAmDbECYLEahgi9epmb6nc=w1379-h950-no?.jpg)


It is a rare (seriously) brass model from around 1994
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Do-HvIEo8iGwymBfbYbxQ_yYcN4YSsYpTGA7LHDHeZ6iGDfVBIl-2Qkkvc5Qmnk5PvmBdX_hU--008kyNq5iBYZjxSFcGx0jQuT27pOb8Q-gSqWgsGjUcHIrovtxeQDrdtvYDhSeYB8m5P6zb8wSycetoTk0QY8BBbWgTASBXpkQPlDZD8Dtk18_MUjd7mCqhSoXKs5jD_t6L8uqOq9VwVP2F3nGvorXKFVUF4tp6F4pG7nkHKMO0vH73SmnN87XlLm5-Uf3USLk_RoJw91DGzNTIciLdi3XVBdn7ZHgQyc2kpfZ_9Mj8gn_xBB3o15DfXLoe8sFTGdia2JsDsabWj0TpYHd4yCNaY6V1JEIZiligTDzz6QYxsuGVHUpkvUdADyb6taun7FvVt4K8m4YjLJYZcKXUtppLXBf76bAI70Q2o4i6KZw6dx4YI0Ui5kCcc52a85vD5X5K4TnCdgYwmcSp5X5AYayWWSk7WhGhIcbxwPtl7EaIdCo4nSRNcFyLkO4ndxYxg_bv1bmMCoxbDU3LOW36TLmi1CTDPwkbx3inlSkRUMZ9fCBCFfdmZmXT1QpJLHznSLZN_tFTK9GlJGQKoTL1c3znfgK19dbsVjTnaz_Dcw0inqwSFRViPHpu4wSHYUD9xccSCwfHJfp5nZISRt9N5kQSJ71ZbSrekg=w1526-h729-no?.jpg)

Real one here:
http://umpquavalleymuseums.pastperfectonline.com/photo/8F953F8E-DDA3-4236-9E36-892323432860
http://umpquavalleymuseums.pastperfectonline.com/photo/B28062E3-017A-4293-8465-228918110247
I'd have to re-check, but I think there were only 7 made in real life.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on June 23, 2017, 09:05:33 AM
That thing is sweet! :o.

Just to share....I know of a  very small one that is semi local to me, though it is standard gauge..
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200612190633233994.jpg&order=byrail&page=2&key=641&photoindex=4&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2= (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200612190633233994.jpg&order=byrail&page=2&key=641&photoindex=4&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2=)


http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2006101020460322491.jpg&order=byrail&page=3&key=641&photoindex=2&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2= (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2006101020460322491.jpg&order=byrail&page=3&key=641&photoindex=2&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2=)




Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Scottl on June 23, 2017, 09:14:10 AM
Whoa, very nice catch!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 23, 2017, 02:17:44 PM
That thing is sweet! :o.

Just to share....I know of a  very small one that is semi local to me, though it is standard gauge..
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200612190633233994.jpg&order=byrail&page=2&key=641&photoindex=4&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2= (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=200612190633233994.jpg&order=byrail&page=2&key=641&photoindex=4&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2=)


http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2006101020460322491.jpg&order=byrail&page=3&key=641&photoindex=2&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2= (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=2006101020460322491.jpg&order=byrail&page=3&key=641&photoindex=2&maxpage=3&maxphotoindex=2&key2=)

Awesome. That looks like a 22 ton model.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 30, 2017, 03:40:20 AM
Started putting down a base of scenery.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h3_tOuKJZjhDy4mEzscngtZmyMjU1sjoqEaIv60DKr9k5HLRzescwPWIDupNK3SFZWu4c-FxYQsxkH3cB07lpl-x4W00CqYmmAelidaJJI2e4xOsxQ0Y9JKtzBJ9nlGzaWiVsAJKq4zze7wAQzMu-ivoPgnmT9OkOimnm2ekizYz5f_tlnBXVSPQUmAbjjiWA1AjSbWu3FAzxlULwbFw6kG3qU9ICzDyYdYk-zw1s8lN7llKF8WXwZoMVDCoy8rWctgAItYaChit4jksoOM6f2NS4MXusyMo5HPTGj_rx-X3LITPOjM506H4VpnEXQ2uU769PcYwMIAz7DjqQbQuhNWSN-XKWdUn-rXfznkxA9RM2ctXmblgfvy3IrOlU3ZFGohvkJCgNl8QqFgUW2qwYoKl2hSQkOFngi_5MLya7h_LTXL4JGtvRK9ufvqA0pG0Rcb_GZPD9gmm3y8LwU4Ukay_TOhFbxds7XgTD2sGLRo6YTpYHyvx_WvR7djLiYSn8rbqffgsqV-b5FF2lHSat4Up2cFLkJsEQMHl5Ub6kWInv1mbw2vT2oTgw_JOb2Xxk2r1MgowrpnHg9fhLGhcYdbvIYZ8vSulK5yoxeS6-wVOKqV55MgM-R4IK-cV3TTWqC-5-0CWe-NItxw8z_uGqyRb1Fr9A04hLSLuAWNMY2s=w1669-h951-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on June 30, 2017, 06:53:33 AM
Looks great! Do you do much static flock if any on your layouts, or primarily stick with the ground foam?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 30, 2017, 03:06:03 PM
I just bought a used static grass machine on ebay so static grass will start soon.  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on June 30, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
By the way, I was serious when I said your narrow gauge layouts got me hooked to narrow gauge. After an extensive N scale collection of NYC stuff, including brass, now I took advantage of Trainworld's specials on some of Bachmann's On30 stuff. I know it's not 100% proto for common narrow gauge in the US, but I'll make up my own railroad. Got myself the 0-4-0 Porter, 0-4-2 Porter, 4-4-0, and 2-6-6-2 :) Each one was $59-99 each on their blowout sale. Over $1k worth of engines for a few hundred. Now to start scratch building some rolling stock (and finish my N scale layout!)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 30, 2017, 06:17:08 PM
I tried On30, but it is too much trouble converting Bachmann On30 equipment into On30 equipment. Here is my On30 14T Heisler:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vtvOV9zWpYaBNJc8X4uW_DZnnrD7-9S_UyCJiu9UWA9CVa4MS4DoGpu2JJgEO1xBKvQoZbFe9uR616oAKCWUMNXQdBCg-glTQjoUgEuqWj0W4PQOQLRtibtR4f5SLYP4eTybN2ZMlhEcx1HyEtwk69RKRUR8dTmaqSCW5foJ2eLdoj1eKTt-u79E19ts7o550PY5L_EFSJr84zV5labOQmDSqjkyyZQz75LdIo6lwwwOZ2KvIi4zjWNUWP3jhXtvsPcePvbmbPYJp01x6oWsgfw0oZvFDyeOjAFOtegEYRAu7zNvqy6yRpohRPacfaXPhoBJkY4blWhjG2rrr21ICFWPacKkNRyWCI37tS5LEokVV0X2_UsZUF2AG3LUaSK690QDfChX7hZGfRSPd64CBWrlolFQ-u4EndhWoxdW-2_I8oY8HvCoA1zME_lq0H_QMPmYKML0MeuDyQicZ5ff6rq69MUPIVHXUn1o_xT6_vwpQEHc8JE2A-xZXI0cnnNT1NYkmWpp1TnGwIxR9ACj0DoMW0H9eNZXumDyabGfjYeyhvDrt1s2NWOP_sT8N9uoeaHKDRqECdx7_4RsFNwyHCr-HgemHvCYIr8ERteWM_bMSmkVpb93Dw=w1920-h574-no?.jpg)

The frame needed milled down because Bachmann gave it a whole bunch more than it should of had. Plus all the various details that were missing like a brake cylinder and sand boxes.

This is the last On30 try:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CO7b0y3qaRn442Q_mHR3DUofU73eX6J6SrdoIIMCHXeOVHKr9LHPmYNQRVFzyI5zJ1y_ri6aOWxhE9WedxeqSjoWejU0mTnh1qvsr6MrOALQ23Xj8OM4pUAuUidFGx5PTw8pmJsMmpTQBYBivh3tfwpbDRZw3IxMES45aO03uC-WfOZas_raFyI_vG1oTTn8ZCbuUusDIUiIBgevlPrMdpaQXgmMOdUfH-NGyeQkXOB5Q9OKSQO_QBpRAzLrCofZ-Ew2asy4cq0M7l88Zz4EJzjmvYXGNcZ3u4ORWMbfGA22AiBHQ7PtqQGsQ14HfWs2ZURkpmA27gZaXnHrjJ7bfRAvdc_4TymCs4izFQaZvmW1P0pVdnlT3IFZrF5QGdJ_oCH_O6LgWCIFzqiIbEhBkEKSWcqTxhLxuf4e25RR5keD9CMR4lryQy3Yqgz3ivE37O4wnxmKt5x4WGbgBGpaovI2heUneklpLYDuF-VlO_TM4fBzQJiUHIoViUEYcOdBsWl0iS2tWKnhJpsFnS78_doOcHS9CkldiUuMGK-TdF4gtubqh04ViqYjqDDDpqRDKJKkIr4I-3YQMNekdoizYT6kIRLS3Ct9S6ZifbDzDIeDmFrAJbdebQ=w1920-h878-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on June 30, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
That's a cool idea to have the layout fold up. Maybe I do have room right now for an On30 layout after all...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 01, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
Hey BTW those four On30 18' dump cars in the above photo are for sale if your interested  :D  They are Bachmann gondolas with Mount Blue Models laser cut dump bodies on them.
https://goo.gl/photos/PYSzbyY9MkHVBwAE8
https://goo.gl/photos/5Tzumx1JCMuCExxx5


Back to the HOn30. This is why I hate scenery. Tip the layout up on various props to get the right angle and sprinkle on scenery material. Wet and glue. Set the layout back down and put a fan on it to speed up the drying. Come back next day to tip the layout the "other" way and repeat. Next day touch up small areas that didn't get covered. A week later and now you have 9 square inches of a scenery base down.  Today's work:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5ivDCCHekYen1zgjZpa-DYAa78pPc6hm1ECh_zim2aMc7RpakTg8hgoTwNcB3BBphl_HaQ0J76uJhGmotSXQJRYQnSgFMBWI5Qf2YNdtRkjwduQdwqMoFskpR8OXzCuTccrwPuFDSqz-bfzqxwRJ6TudOsav7fNP3Z3lklxjcpAWnY0X69Ma2cXbpzYC6rRKf8WMSh59OV6vmxf8sOY72Jq7jLjk7bilWLQMy8tDL7d5JWw_Ednbmh8u0RrbOgt24pW9N3BE_jSIxRbPEPBvBPxYSbSs2Qwk1SYXAPB28mKwCCUVWt4uCJl6UqvJnKzyWRLubMlFNj5dwh7v-tjN8bh_HLwdY13fq-GaKOluReWWdRbMEycLzllnQjvL7g5lmVUNJwt-okRA4wNrnqr4F4o8D-sj_EqzKu466f2Z5f2-OLLoffUtScMyPAZzQuEJRuMjvGFE6uEHGdhRGxIh_jLwcOSwarvCJ4BVn_s1uueSvLQC-nkl_n2q8D-H0waJbK-NYbpToBl4hT74E8671KtAaWO9W8xJSQ3v6qA4aj2sOyf7pylFYZooch7Jrbo3eiHgQgAQRT7e23k4pThBHCe7EaP7_b5RKgWW8Ape5RitDbKwId-kqekZWHn1LoAHm_kJH3lDYA_iQ3gDJ-LQVsRaD326Lsijls8UONi4V-w=w1768-h951-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tinx_g5X0N1n8E9-W1NYPPiCwRsGhVVDmPDHt3JMJ3uzEaXY9Gm7JcBsfKBb0vIfRI2p6XSgmh1c5rSKx0SGBcCeVGmbWyaDPdyunzb7iKq1gIqNou_3uMQpu2NppddjjYaXuwKLJOpgX5vYs3p4AEpgbtz6d5lC-XHpgvZibjmc3XC_acv7xjf87S7l8fhuu4OuarPcGVQSyO0cRjw5mffGuR6ZU3fwzWuH4zTW8PQ492JpYOUQmRO3SgmQJ3iXTeGJ-nzemg098bnmXKBQnNvp4E0sRQOjkjRck9c4lGkT0Q_jzPljECEzW16AHKJhEMwou7CggajxWwTaAVkyTkgHEC70gzgNwLM0u8jnxBlHx6Nk0MTpAjCYer4fepkX0OEbuHUr0wXedsS8RNGLr0v7rHBc93hbCZuVwDnfoIlzEKoGjaPbqIrxy7SheQ0pktqMdiH-zW0Lxc2iMTlD4mviftqNcR-FM0UdUd9lljaNn-TSWwZKD12CRDPcUyTTNOOn2EHHBcwjHwAqN0vH_gks959n7FZEOe1-o-CP1Sk567XvzIoJHYMinKHiupvy2ssJekssnLYn2IdYvz8Krj85bS7QqV1dOGTJrHRd7bOnTNYihRyMdhJomgeuyBOzV0kkCa5fgukn-F8zmprikp954dBPBUE-m_s7yI5Igac=w1310-h952-no?.jpg)

Soaking wet with the fan on it so I can do more sooner  :P  Plastic bag over the building so I can "dirt in" the foundation and still be able to remove the building.

None of this includes static grass and brush/trees  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on July 03, 2017, 08:19:08 AM
Can't argue with the results though.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 04, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GsbJ4kM2V0OJfH0pA67PzvXN_6ajVVNdvwHjUGWKvTMqy_XBqsU9VrfvsfXrvDLPQUpQ3e0FoRRAyq1FZVid1n5laBDHuEm1eTVyYOHqJ34SKvHV8tGebX3hifdJJPnZA-k6P1T8ZVgLug6OwtfiRERSB5EgPOVim18fqeQzM5oKj2MQRyMz7M__xPyOcddR_gUIrVbTKjpcWNAjNe3jsBPgik9t91XiVj4aBsBc8cez-mJUezziKqb5uD2n8dNpwNnD9ZRyQC6tn5He_wnTejJIpfbtdjr1Go73CbOypCkpD6CTPImY31-8lQUeCEg9VQHuP5Z5WK16HC8geaZTs-rcd4JmSFI9ZIXX5IWZTl5akrxxg4kcFLqSImJgfkm3tOlivBbCeo3-s34cmnV8eiAhFtsEfBwaLfOxjUkzF5d-EQOCU7ZM7SZt_BCrI7qqzHtqRpSZKggwzb_T25cWonkqSy2bRRildYkx41hRrniklaN9zIW-bPv0ByCWvSZTfodJ81uuYixM8vGNUdc7bpnMWgS_rxhKWfU77ChvqRVH8i1sFdRr071HB0SM1Px3VL5xJFyuw-jxm3_FlPwxqV_fczTyw3tmoBEM3OHenteHIABvSPPiHYnHvOdZhxY5VDJdatjrJw4oo_EBlq-k39JxHSCcPUeLWAL94KawM7A=w1557-h951-no?.jpg)

The great flood.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fFlJNPfjSuO2kn8qxKd1SI08BpMuFJPQMhcbiZEo-wkbldeoiWtJxPhHVyQtM8BrRidEVUM2Y1DHbHB3u4GE2Wjirh25M9_Wz4rE2YzYRa5Fj8YFiAsplVNzd4ZEtPBE7vZ-KM8nEOklzMwRLq_nbzrcPuZa8isAGA62yEygbn2W88YjPJkogzY_obOI88W7rv1D_dYI_EjDQ8Cmgcy1NTM1yN8uuKaSgDe4Y021_UrVbATxCLHTy7uZX64YTGp21qkPMDY7Y80y_p7BUESnTRuuZu0KNxRdeiCKdCEDPnh158569AbNC4PkUZgfLXfYOan6BRb7jT5G71VUADxM_AnyfxhGu0a37WEn1w8aZYrX3qdvxL1ATIsCpF_J00SfSM452tALrSj2fy-cZrgkxNSlF6qgQSSLJl1pSGkc18FHoWDaw2aL2-RsMnp24CPUlhqEUT_tElkat0unoB2QC-WTpCklDeJ39OFdEB6Z-z2c1fJ4mxlJJjT-aNRPoHmShP40tkWunHjStV57-rOiBDkDZgFrndpRAeO7jwAOUYPNb9PYdWPcGHpsS1NArUlnZ8b8IrrvpqcHPyGfr133QNCYxiP4cQ1NXXuottFBg7HmXbGwX6SmlEFaxQoIE41MfDIUVSGS-f6rki4HFqgxwSxe4OEzdmCslY7eR4stYCA=w1729-h951-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 10, 2017, 05:20:55 PM
Deep breath
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/L0FMqvcvsW-61Ku1Fan7PQA8_VmiVjjcZWypHE6-_yj-Ju2aULjSaqeceo_ss4TJNN_putqnle82SJIsTnk77N6beQLmrBK6FqL_z5vtFLYE4xR8ejPngNRnTlG7X4t28lyhtALcmT2A0MJfnGlKK5j6gFF7X-gDd4lnlOykPZj7hg3m4v7ozBlxOGUPxw2174IS2z-hsJ9CAcJFgribWBkH5Jwgk_AyqCSWSS9O_OSEtUukytdjOgjZOnneI0PDVfyc7YP54h0gzqYnXNISFx5RIxwQ5RyzUvdr3PSJkzmHjvMYV7J6y67m2jwGP58C-VE7olzrMLBapD5chbeDwdU4LL7Edk6zU-W7zjUcX8jjW9a7jDE6lTmMR1GPW9Vfuw43N2C6vO1sYVlROakRdMXS_cL8crPq46TKO77j8IfwcGCBme_4uX7WfgV06HLwN_weMaprS3LljCevfoYyRQFuPyYdd95YdQfIBcHnFVH0kRSLE0cBsGTrBlhxDyCAbBhQEvcWt5aj5-Zn5oxpfQR76a9mT_6iqDYSY6B_BoLkRLyVe-PVFmBOo1737l6ptXCLHFli37wCYimXwsNZnn4t8k6YH9D8qjZ7PHFtsFfoqr2KjZ9qJ84khz7oC7rrS9b4PgtILB7qB7S31uJKRP83ej8OCgUyH1Wpa5jAw7FFiCQ=w1690-h951-no?.jpg)

This is one area where On30 would be easier.  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 15, 2017, 12:46:53 AM
What was wet is now dry  :P

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EMWaoDvCG1NL-t4wTCfLWLN7c4RO7UHw8u9tX6cg0lSUtxAlsUYxOH0hoLoiGAyPMrjjr0PXW71OkmOoaNjqwIn4fzXP_Vyaik98EIgW4hSlYQGMB_B0GhyV2SJSek1iHoTTzy1JopMkzxBx3fnsnsYVfihcaJ3QXWA4_UUmt0sHL6lf4Vh347K2FRGOTCYLnZnmAVwx3PkCrg3lR9HQQVTOUTDhmIfhDAzYibfNRebCd7gm-ckBXVPIOnxdcOjYCx39OrTPAEXZ3LDB_Mjs7HCdB1bt0uDzd9hFoDhso5rNTDjHCSm6Wqr1rvBHV4k-bbQX2FRSs5IJCOUul4o0S0TY-CzreVKLTY8cuOi_qAHqF1yWNhP2njVf6ZtshKaeG2TIyV5aha9hnyB5uJtfzB0gPp26KWohogmWKx3nrepOZ8mBbwd797TpKVNgkdXas38XfNB-qGWb2zFJM-92pKo6BWzSKOkuNrQdoYQtJWCqJVhg-ufB-UX6XrmHQ91e5A70GB_ghs6pvTFHWIFS3ObvtmzPa7rob7Tfnrc31RaEYsyvbsNb5eL2Dh5CCNxEksYYmIL8Xt5xhKFwxybaG8HbG3R_P8Cy_D9wq5QB1CH6OWHADobmISU8cJ7Y7thlQMhvfI5o-5P23ezPnOr9EnTe6irHUjrv8CBqdBI9f-xB17s=w1268-h951-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2jKysYrKsoposdnaUULQ9BYUIEbsE9BAOry-lNZ-V3zGgFwmP4sAwFjBMorWHZj5dDRg960ddv6FhRR2yG2XZu4rk0Pf1XNqOCGvWbp1WO510CaEh9rUyRTWlEQbgwkKlqPbM76mOcQ7WfwHXI-cqoAhf2du83rPftG8CwkvU0GWGOxUZx3IBxnd9KJmXfjFz29NVo5q2SAxyGdyG9NkWNWkwTax3SAN-1iV647uvunpUylOTUut886vHx2jTlH3x-Mr097YYuNlyjHNCtTPzo-XfMKNh1FH4IYYrpBIOEleQee3OOUwRES1OYmZm8byN8ycfIdbSM393e2D_h5_l7xWQjCST0TVmXYYJUIeGG4c-UoGudh0FyuFiGZrwHFOlBC9a_50vcqDEyZ84AnQlA937TuONkfWrXsaGTqhDLpMg7mrJDq7lpAJMjYUQ5nV_00HDnBi7NgvKjW9T9ILnXH4iJ_q5YvXPzteOozjbiizDcUIz92Sm1ZkJRvtDYVYuOyhEctjnn10BvDifGziM2wpNVI6p7iMEjGWaXHhEyHG6ycnyB4XmKlfMg9c2e0Z5_9lr1PHmBm5nE6WssWhBZde0xdsG_VOrNSv7G-kUrd-Yw-8o_kmfs0zH5Vy99hPU0HNfJGdWuUQUUiJxR6LCxuT6qp-BaOTzLhtHIKl2r6Hl1w=w1268-h951-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on July 16, 2017, 08:36:48 AM
The dirt road came out really nice, I really like how 'dusty' it looks. Scenery overall is well worth the effort, I'd say.

What do you you use for the earth/dirt base? I was going to try earth colored grout but you can only get 25lbs sacks from HD, and probably only need a few ounces. I ordered a few different earth-tone ballasts from Arizona Rock and Minerals but those some where in the mail system yet,and I'm hoping the texture is fine enough for N scale.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 16, 2017, 01:15:00 PM
The dirt is the finest stuff they sell at Scenic Express. I could have used dirt from the back yard, but I didn't want to screen it down.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: SSW7771 on July 16, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
Looks great. I like the plastic bag trick.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: andyl913 on July 16, 2017, 09:51:59 PM
Chris, what brand/blend are you using for the ballast? That's the exact look I want for my N scale NYC layout.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 16, 2017, 10:40:32 PM
It is N scale ballast from Smith & Sons from Scenic Express, but for HO I mixed in a bunch of other stuff with it to bulk it up. 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 10, 2017, 03:46:55 AM
Just a test:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Cmq3SEBza5fzyEluDzKDgbE1gV-aqafW-PwM6nklx-aEV-NPl6M26zH_d4sRAi_I3tFO_kd06-r5ypUJK4PIf-JpNsCAi7sP-zaIN3OqrFEyO5a9kk_Eu8MNr4J4a0EPkEjJT1gqDVp11l6QF_I2N91hpLxctU0DZ2twNLhPVSg8EtZPAVJXWO4Gfshcp3cqgWR2jA5dNabCtRXw_KQt-GF4QrWmmVAxvh23gCDc9zR9snujUTOssdvm-mgC30MERVMMcXYcCYq_g3Rf-61xPFoVuLMKIuXS-Iz17QccIweVErYM98BBroRatpL46qun-O4otjEkU-P0AyqUd7vQQIWqDzPYMLQADWzovkTEUvrCRFbAs7MkjApVb5TdeC_pEhFaT2BN4juuSldsabK89QiF_77eWWTVXmKOYII02Ws6b15hCHWTYFGZuMr54IZuoMSBH2Dqmkzk_UeBNrKjccsn8j-PWF4TK_CBpi-r4vDapeoMh2pH5Uj2qJEdm1qGyq_4wFnW1Pi_i2EHkBj6zG4vBz_X5Yw9J-HgIfZ6uWvP7-T-7haTMdtcI9_etKfkZX7zQm_4OI0aF5jPlHqFZgVl43AegheFU0h-Gfg92jJnXHfyzJNfQaTggQ3KMOdSSpcHnGiLENkSq6SD_e_YA52YCtGONvYqEBMPe319ablkqwY=w1510-h951-no-tmp.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Santa Fe Guy on September 10, 2017, 09:20:55 PM
Chris,
   I have been following your progress along with Dave's with interest. What a great job you are both doing.
I have just dumped all my latest N Scale purchases (sold my big layout just over a year ago) and have decided to switch to HOn3 after starting in N in 1969.
Been lucky enough to snag a Blackstone K27, long caboose and several Rail Line HOn3 kits.
No track plan as yet that will come when we move into our new home later this year.
This is my first attempt at grab irons on a Rail line box car.
[attach=1][attach=2]
Looking forward to my new project.
Rod.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 10, 2017, 09:41:13 PM
Haha. I'm not dumping N though. Keep them both for now. Been working out in the garage lately.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on December 30, 2017, 04:54:53 AM
Got around to my Lawndale RR 2-8-0. The pilot is a new 3D piece. I've made about 4 revisions and now I'm happy.  :facepalm:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wSEEvcfUYiw2SLbVpc_HQZ4CJqnHBenLQsS2iKTGwqCkRGlM3n3emUDtqF3g64inuZZTzpgfoLmU62fu9PiLO21m03R2IAag6C4x9a_alX9tp66RLntko8yaS2ZfexpAGAmaQNmK5yukRN2o7loX6XdMILGznddkAc3O7hKKq1VTKFWG2_ByNdlMYdoeuN6336fH8f-f8_lVhy8jgNtpvXhX80J4m8FEIvXbHLAlZeZulTGHuklAsX-n_XHT6zkRhsXqSXW8ctKw-2YE8giOv1ybirjo4DP4v20P9HpzufQH-HwYXhwhRvJdLvbuhyKNR8xiLv_NfFx0MhMlUzF3xFk0Y1p2CKBvWNBXWU8HayNTZPQz4WEddA6a5YTia4bZSzYBxHddch450-s-vqe5BUQYoHOwB5GLgqZQhd7NNrZf-rdJQGJ2SVVMXD3m5ss5-9-83rxpfh56uY2RUC_8ZzxlDm7Sne_cZ8AHMtHC1r6nNqnmuT10HNokxk_QmtIb-YVi3ELGBhneDMDUszLrGf_MK8swfu1ZAp8UWFv-4M8KawYyZZhjcq5xl0oCFcabqQMo6rUODpWMSs2yO6Eaiq_8W26W3VfTEpdLsUtDjUCtaa5zWZVkmueiQ6OZZiPpVwS0MEZxyREqQGKJCMntJtzXkvbXzXaKZQ=w1920-h941-no?.jpg)

And them I spent some time weathering it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MzM99VjQxe3jGOCGV6ANprLe7VkSnNCZEF5hHe3sbW6CWUGCAyG9b9vE10FmDrxHuD5JMOqLwngr7m-KrLUW4AIszbEimI76cUGGW1LXrbET6s1iAiVid5uUzJaMzftzj0J5OrDCCOLHlRfQNCMsE_pnk5zkz8LfMskAr0aE2uoSgRYPDOtPykY3q2bauGiT4XyP9w8js21S5G1BC_sOVk4iinyV2EMJU3NrJCdMMGuXN6HOJGANetBN2KFwjlRKAemD4NWRoUnG5SLDWJeKpt1Qlv8RJvMmffJRbSsmgbXm0tH4IIjUkWWGrCQ2NGdz6DPXxxpT72eZ-vS5dK5hczmJgBIysIMAi_61lbDglgNzRce6xeNDLXOWlS3GanWjWub13W2kkNMzg5MdCDH0EYvzQKT6f0uWlMoQSWdbIc4q57fL8XNdj9tKfvPilel0kMvpzS6PP5-XrSbEvzMbQtWrfcD3l96oYG0XgS-0Zs1hwEyc8CivmitCEi0l0UpB1koyv510OXWpHIWBLZQE_b8Bi-Xb940mZuo486WNzEDhgF9bEvuSiX8CTSWvd2GfBsqKycr0VXbZPRiUf2lD2HcSB4-11VCQtL1bVxsYLbplXJZctEgFsjqQ6zgPQRRfqhZVo5o7AkdJVlWHt5zB546ia72UxThOGQ=w1920-h950-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/q7TGTmsxE-t26NDL8lKkQQlb95hVluAv1IQVWFELFmKjWuqyjr03gQKbYOLLfs2nNz2Sn5g5WaIeqplRteut5CV7Q8wxL6C-xhRBlBBFbuoI3eJMZD-bp6aYyBiBanMAA3Cs-tDNmbTCRPqxqzKRUnU2aggrEZpmuYGLcs7dzVKiSPy-5rYeGgRchSia-X8Gyrwd4U27VXpdME0VxqUi9mdHpzA8TO5FayFX_SaIYwTHC1cXyCpEVE-Iw-QCF9x6jRysPFzVd-dlWght9GnmoKJvFhHUOg37SFg7cfyMTpz6ixQJuesTiQKwFlIlmuSH5hewVQpv8MA8vHCJjorhSePtwU8x7Ovt6pRnOFkwWSiVUlrchJhQuP3X_YZW792oZG3c_8mB6UpGgJnhh5Jqv_6llWZZLJ-fZ4V3O9SFQjCU5-Rt0Zp2npN9sFrYmQXMpnPmzuSRxI_1LtvgYBPB4XE20t4XwsIjH1ecYrsN_yJFF8niKUSaC42JP28JBQwdy0-ZVge4eO5ftbKIr8zqdbaC-buD-YFSNAMYYABwc6Y0KylWzOgGj96dfRuW571ASbJI89W8pi_0Y8L94WekCY0ftB8zLA8FakvK9aUqagl_IPBm7bfPMxUhmlI1t_iY0UMz33qyQ6jvJqc2y9HBbppoIl1RtUKgYg=w1601-h950-no?.jpg)

Where is the tender? Thanks for asking. I haven't even started building it yet. Double  :facepalm: :facepalm:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HP6IULpWj6ToiXPO5uvC99c1RFFg6WKKjHw1uz4o1bWEGeW-bSMZHvv1H9gWJ0mHL_JiodtG2kOzCLpKD9jxvA5MwK7tfa8FqzS20Xpp6eJsXYzWqlzUWFOiOcqNkIGij2j2asLrWAIHLNfn1fgRI5KuH7m16qoqFf2c25s8YfkVJct_vyLE3VyR7MMbSpcfRgqTgss7Zocah9tFL5DJHKIUxYVwONFzCsvGtBqjb8DPv1K1uWplFcLMR1hVfZt5uHB0WWO70bkeqN8S6pxy_Yga_zTkfka4-FNJVcF1FUQTX4cA5NTDPPnJC9Ov5ru1RcwlTxo9RTTW9rWNStCKuND0fq6759T-lSrX1guVdUiQ9uS7Ux9v0UB9S5-OyqAnhJhTYLfgsIE7rghdJ7QlyWPKs83lpOhM9VEPvQbYmMNxd2ae9o8Eu1thO5F8RJagbwHQHAaqdADHAfykVAoDEyvkUa3t5XW0ycMLkLe_m_GBHzL66LBMVycAw-f80LrwIBLF7zi00kd7xSeYO0PlTXOrpADZ0DWxj0eXU-byQgHt3TwAL0ZB83L5eNY0Ki9xXK-6jPC3x-ktij_-iIFPWYUkaZh1UyWZBMcYXudh6Ggcf6M4mwFnOpexgGyM_yL7UibZjTkSo2DqrAi93U-0J-YzEaexPPsYgQ=w1908-h950-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: narrowminded on December 30, 2017, 06:25:41 AM
Love it! 8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on July 29, 2018, 01:10:36 AM
Chris, any updates?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 29, 2018, 02:05:16 AM
Yeah. I got the trunk lid smoothed out. The dings in the roof are filled. Started sanding the fenders today.

Oh you mean the layout. I haven't been in the basement since May other than washing clothes.

Sorry.

Took this photo today:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YPdfxPMUDQNlrLXvC9vydobezKlxGzMUaUCsjttwnIC2JtO9H9M834C6IEJ6hqhT6ZDmYcbzd-1eGsCWo50_5Z7UO-pehkPStXINQxfjZAAujWyXfmodBBl_MPwzueLgaVuT640KGExRvNdqNB3Srf_vob3G_gHTJS5t8nG5-2I023GFU8sd2io9C0AX-Y4JkXruieBfN0woz_bsEA3_I9jOF5yGUMyGcVdI_Nd3p1WPMdDW4cXURGAPcq-f7CaLjsasu4J5b9LAZ4j4k_I8P0-jg7ZZMTby_Ip8qj4GYHZpYfNN61Gvc304nhLUNnUf5p59SangWhKk85PFSJM7bLJzfO5wTIbG8QixAiEfOxyI6XtGlXTo_yzybzuPA7b5o3qlSZyf4KtAhPkIc3gcp7rNNIPu_m9UuDCmflLtFyJKtwxeYCp-XoqOT80Ap7WGqoGC2BBkZ0YtSo06FOycWt5xNghkYQVjuyAtkePLZhanUusQVv5JXlaNturDtZDWF3loN9_Oiu-KIRSZJmLWFzLTMd5KBeOEtyZ2P2U9XsunRWGd1coH-IoJhAou7yImetuVEuPTXOWeGp04A0z0vsJbF3OPJ6_IrQU2gr7=w1524-h813-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coosvalley on July 29, 2018, 07:53:23 AM
There's something funky about that ride height 8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nickelplate759 on July 29, 2018, 09:49:31 AM
With only four wheels and traction tires on all of them, aren't you concerned about electrical pickup?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on December 20, 2018, 05:27:52 AM
So I built a new "company store" for Mill Creek.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mkoqGq79U0fF3jdbXfbij3w_O-CZcfm29oAjwCjMtnOhdxPTu2r6THkDyGjma9kZtaLNPO-MZEwGBL8l3ofL8AgNa-OhlZP0cdlu1-7EHZ8uW21iTazwVhyFpAaoX2KgznUccW0k1ruDNzD5e62byBdblixHGSu0nOFKTmQim1xOgKe7mR1XoAURbkSW4vDsV7ltHiQ6jZ0eHl0J2Ia0omV5gyzNzbvjDdoB-ANjcPpthzlgV-sivToE-LBIyzYnwxx5AHlI9TGvKyhS9Z8YRVIj1_zNHbM3b7JTbMprTvdPB28di-on-JeaFG6PdFQgaRFVEnv6R59ROy3b_bw98NL8RxqjrApO5XUODOlXhLCg7Ay7kjO5EmM_sQQsX9RfRIQxvSKTU43Y6u9Y6nhS-q_Q68x48L3Y-XwkbDf63XWsrlmUIwvxy04sEFox173KIzhpDIwBkfjs4nTio46CBg1k_5gwIOCxqM9WRmQlDQyPNFtDQ1IrfYIXd_eHQZpNwTQ1NUhFFj9lGTNiQPyXIBwjGZuJQSOcrYpZkXM2lYVr4fou_9zlQFW0phVCFMnk6r3r_Lo7nKYCeevVSOmIqsdINJts_0oc2imkffcCuw9fjtAG9UmTWhALfS6AuCFgLatU7SG929StokFA6TS0vBDBDiQJZAV_ZQBLZvegGO3gqPYuz5PcGSn1vVUHJeWmLhQ1BZI9jbc9aFKLnUc=w800-h791-no?.jpg)

Was wondering if someone can help me with a sign for the front. Either above or below the top 3 windows I'd like to have:
Mill Creek Coal & Coke Company

In a similar font to these:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s9G6R0OTgbfZ077BzCxu8mOPR_qbnuUjVG5wlQ7_mONpsYzqKbHy9dV8Tf43qDixplG9HjvI36KzdtfD5yLS3iTGGob939obKBdj0BpqBK9RW93RgwmzM7STDFSS3FRERuVF4Iewyr7Y7Uirp0nBlqHHqXlDCO94nORi76ixpUk1hwDANDDv6TvSVJV071MF2u1i83T2m6LyHFITE3v-eCjIf95Ep1hxEsps6QnVJqGvCDcVp0KZl6NJibWP15ycoZdMEiT8mMcdwqDA733FuZZvs4ag2kHeC6p4IXJF6KkWir0gADhuzwT4X5UypPChBMEjMM45rqQ8pSlnzmbflxiNDjxZrsPS5bkpE5zRw-vy3fGVNNpSBkAPE1gFNoRKiOPUoBwC70pS4uWNiJqyeqoz6oLwnF4b7chHWJyjSn9uz8Jw9IqIV_Q4oS_wkBEALSoxYKs8O_Jw5kUG87NRCeQgHWBLJo1Ynb-2ms5LwCafIynOeg5mFsqQVyLVUMgBE_iV7uTgMl1PGrhD0M6jF0GgU-DxoXV8ffEW_H_Z7hiwTVdsiYzqSFpg4QkV-Zo1s97DHRklGd-xaMz6xVXGbg4tgE93BtpMLI_HdliRdLyDCykJAKdScYfNmFP0JOT3FyuriO7P61Gluxc7j9PubYQopxO1XAugyitqT-nImLg7dpz1mYx8284Y8vfIGyMouRyGp_9bSAV1U8mKIzg=w800-h475-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C_dxcJtPY8vNU8UeNMwNFmNbG7xfKeBaxlcPfVzeb6M1KnonA0-XwlW93tfC9NetXu4Cv3V3r3MEC74vCXaKk-1fI0oTVABkTvmprN4IEz2tcO5b-IKsxLwUWzdVjRo3lCf_xANzooFZ-4vpBSxjWwg0bgGMUom6VEi-EtfydcslkJCCzGschCljq4GH1j7y9hf3xCgavwjkp3cSuuqpLfYufc6LEPBfkhC6l674j4ogQQQeOn0EoZHSXmZtEYiUTm-HA27GGbNF-EmY-rBpZpKNZ0omsoO5dYhEEo-ITj6tbFmUrG3jEcz676EnN7HESp7kudqumwm50W0ojvD4fGB6zDzR7hlktkwiQalzqigu3371cBkzoCdndzqfMGWVbfBJv55nzOuQOF8aLwQhkJkepqBbRxmyPUQ_S1Frh8YGblAnxoMjjmwnWwnorDGseh4PgFY2C8vS8VFTeeEI5ANYdsNr3ZSrrNEUxgHkT70dKczcgNM1tp8uC8JjhY6WzFvB2EtibUi1yQrFVB_Hk60W0wuTDCyi4rA6YUAsScZlUMTLUaPrMD2Aw6hlCGmZDnKAu_9SR6vWlc4bsEJh3Z8v0OSdQXQceqrr933B2L9VY_sgoQW0szdHe-3pteUiDx9nnR0YVb26cfa8j-Pk-xMMjIsz2iA1Z0-lEKx6itEf7fhKQLy9X1pbz6nkYm0BlMfzWaAGmZrgAORHWow=w800-h464-no?.jpg)

The space is 2.732" x 0.313" Since it would be a black and white sign I'm able to print it out myself.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on December 20, 2018, 02:57:40 PM
hey Chris
here all some samples
the challenge is the minute serifs that none of my many fonts have
i hope something here is helpful
holiday wishes
sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on December 20, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
Thanks man!  I will print them out now.  8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on December 21, 2018, 02:36:41 AM
Not glued on yet, but I think I like this one:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cVMDvKvWvzwMPRqB5xrBnwTrPZGjCC3c-OdoIGdo3uHdLIjw23fhUWWP2OqqivpZeHAta6K0q_2GymnQ9x2p128I3eT9f0rCr9ZuVKt5orQhA9Jm-vNrPukMlZbtfd3_iL2e-I5Yq27cKZBCh0CRll9XwB3_pLvMQKzOcbPoX0KsPOvyrLxuCHzesqRpOSVG_ZXCOequJHuSK6ybJC-ySymJ-I0Z54XxACqhhfZeOIVzQl3VzgNgb005WkzJIxr5Ae3nLz7Of2dspz-iJVmxm7MbIKarTy67OW3HAmDRONi3eYWDfbz0UdzRNtk6C4-JLTyKMI8ulwT2B-bothJqwED2hBlCaGNKuHSjxr6szhlgyX0ItC4VML8iHX6lFYqBMaSwHHQR1aC_dKmzA79UsjlpewSjUnz4r9gH7YD0wyPTXLrB81eB12hK8gViwzGGsW7GlgkH4HmevLptSarBuugxv2z2nsOowp_BX8crvPEoWGt3lHapIBpLYGs-gNuQwq5fkW0YcapIuCNFA69O3U24K7OUOFYPqfxy3Obnl0Kn_x6VbvYfIwuZpIKSfcGQyBQd3q-8hiImn9LThyqWrVU104RQDaQTe0hmnJ-ZSR_yWoGKcHN9fgbQokYy0fY7-LKsUq1IQ_Mg-fb9Vg6m8kCzqZ2uiTqUyc6VyZ_v066CDeKdlEtAoYSbHSPDm2-c1p7Srpnve3xf2TpUVXA=w800-h719-no?.jpg)

Thanks again!   :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: narrowminded on December 21, 2018, 05:12:15 AM
Not glued on yet, but I think I like this one:


Yup! 8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on December 21, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
looks good, Chris
glad i could help
as always, your modeling rocks
Merry Christmas
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on December 22, 2018, 01:34:14 AM
Thanks again!   :)

I'm thinking a similar sign should go on the other street frontage as well? For balance and exposure?
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on December 22, 2018, 03:50:07 AM
I dunno, don't want it to look cliche like a wild west town. This is a small backwoods town in Ohio around 1920. My hotel just says "ROOMS" and the saloon next door will just get a low key sign on the window glass.

This is a company store:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/70NovaSS/Slater%20Creek%20Ry/7FC2CD55-10FA-4FF2-8A7B-701D5B25317F.jpg
A narrow gauge railroad spur once ran into the basement. Here it is back then:
https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/052102.jpg
No sign at all.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on December 22, 2018, 07:54:14 AM
I dunno, don't want it to look cliche like a wild west town. This is a small backwoods town in Ohio around 1920. My hotel just says "ROOMS" and the saloon next door will just get a low key sign on the window glass.


I should hope that saloon sign is low key as the Volstead Act went into effect in 1920!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on December 22, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
I should hope that saloon sign is low key as the Volstead Act went into effect in 1920!

Lol, that's pretty funny.
And yes, I see your point Chris, I keep forgetting this is the Midwest...
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 04, 2019, 06:27:38 AM
So I've been working on this  :)  The weather wasn't nice to the old layout and all my small layouts are too small to run anything more than a 0-4-0 on. So I did some re-building and narrowed it down to a 2x5' layout. I'm using some very rare Micro Engineering code 55 HOn30 flextrack that I found one single pack of at a show. I asked Micro engineering if they could re-run this track and they told me I need to buy 3000 pieces and it would have to be code 70, not happening.

First I've been 3D printing the heck out of the 2-6-0 I started. Now the boiler, cab, and running boards are all printed in one piece. New pilot printed. Whole new tender printed. The tender has a brass wrapper around it. Tender trucks are Atlas S2 diesel trucks.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oMpPYwCLAO45K3GvjhApUenFY4RL0zrkhDyb9dLvOXHjGp3SbcEIpk9MU7sJbquz7_UfVx3ZhfdbL8jY0dkazYXm_CdsqBGpqEvK5sGWfh0REwxO6ZSID8d6TiiyntgxraWKFdE-MdNg4LrayE_Ats2fYK7rtDWTDtJA-ce7DSdK_liKlVM1fmpWp2LfttfX3_jD80xaAa8YgqFODT4ldTbcm0zyCJ3BlFskW16cwMDmbrDtQQBPqMCdaGq5MM6_KlPHC1ATX1qZHxr93yrgQDkuCzPiRxDzBenSNmKsHIG2nEmczju7M-p4ZVFPcNZ8whAvtDRBtT_jNDKpJHAHl2_uzgQuvdyOIngGQqHwULwo68eXu5ml2ZpjPZjxU8P4hyHQzgNqfrU9HBTIw6CqVvf7Mc5JymwRgAkhGdJ-cfOn3juvbbU7wfnbX2WqSsYNVc8Mf6n2hkAZqi8su71fNLWJCr02IRhn8i4QDILWFSh62O9-KStD6UK_Nt3YxG61vP5qH1iA7jrOv3NNKYqPBNz9ZoBCbzsTkh0RKeQi3Dsta11eFBsxdkbaEzLIB6IxCxcCwMhbR5urU51DZ-3bZz9jNb4vRWoAshNyLVLRAHLH1p3CXSpWm5ABJ8TsBhUwpfIpdUESebXduv_z3q6qvjbgXj-SduqeaUh9EHvEOz6YUq1wJe6oVWZlSiZRG9kpLQxB8BeIdMbFXf9hBJg=w1600-h671-no?.jpg)

The town side of the layout:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0IFWbaBZiwOuICYfJMiA5BA2ncahAHVpL5tT3Cb-KGBk8HQwfLiahPyp4JAyl7OziGmXEpN2_9Nq5T5vswXr4l88FmLffrjZo4wjG8YW65tg185k7nBtM64R7pKNLfQzZp3bbzPpBi2VIlGd_i8yp4yu0S8d-nyTC0AH3dD_JdDNflFJ8Z0Vuo-GtBPE6dAiNxTjXrHswSo1q9yCpxtBV8OMVcwdf6ItuksODGDC4I0rUAmIN5QIdu9-rZ97icnlPAdYXX_TeCaftCYmRYOnx2UwTb0T-XObWYRmyegnpEWLcOXLEPbrvpjysi1uzkyb_8Ka5-5H34W1VAl-iKz-M71Aoe0anxFVW_MV5nl2wpHmvZNQjMyI_pM9pZY8uet5gZ1i5fkBS60QIBjEsLYaGf6D6MQ32HtRIqPnVJTbJwd_e267aN7LRY0N1NjFL-QkwzS0NYw53W-_SDzlr982l2Sdl8OEqDmiNeLbogOWZ2ascaRHXebnmYPWqZEefP7KvQ8OuafS3_4geZ-a4bzlNFc9xmUKuiKlv54koHHl5EE-QeG2nm54iUPpBG8lHogWGfnEG47jyCUaU1hvGjMXvwI7ocb-CnBt74s92pUhthRWp5oz4MBmIumlUO7n0eAw83rtieMle9Hmkd6pbnA-M528pbJl_JtpWqFIqFUMsk5MFlJ8jlPd7FDOfma0egT91832KwXJByvwpOqxKl8=w1500-h796-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pgs3jKhfbOLtNoT-Xsf0E-I1IEJljpxL94lOpg3lhCdDLy0Y6kIdtavnj1r1whccs7mkcDXSUOo9PW-NY9rWVRn9VN3LR5c0rTVkzFpkrzuyqNUUak2AQiG3p0xgkWmZEFBJLZa-TQTwhEdDbWmwPwBHQpsTsWZQqzSe_bK6zSIC_S0JZl8nP7WBmQIaQD2-N2tpOsP2_vuB3ZuX5cgpXT5p7r5yw4f4uUD1IvjcnKjogLhsnsGcM3rIt3NTgVWwL_1HvOxucOrCdGim1DenDv7ace9jizkBYjXHqddCTfKWQph_fOYnCnHWoND5dLDwkRD1yPdAroSAfEvSUVYKhc0vCmVTcSvFnyh-GAnzQwXZYCHk4xSO53TKAeb8earuZfSF0iTtvZEDJq7BToZoyzyyqxXDX4JNInCn19dBNfhXcNX4k710qc690ya6Gu3J8OeZ7xzAVytXpBMBFATBq3CHm41RRzFZF_X3kmM8scHHhnZzTIEpABox_bOCdS2w9P6HxA0x_NrsfKfGThg0cUXLLlY7Ork10poPCN33gFjE-vSyYeC8F6TF_fDgWJJlaD0E3i5A67Gb9N75tAuHZ130SpjYBskRv9BXdctbiKx9RsUjUVwAUGVD6nDmP8XQmE8ZjOaEzgSTZ2w8shHhgiW-7gV82iZ926eiaXQ8D2iqW_bG2BF302maARE15HvNqs4fDSia7qBUvq_FmfE=w1500-h419-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 04, 2019, 06:30:59 AM
Starting with the company store:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1maf1M6ftSkU76V1guPtXwQS0lMZuXVia8Emi9wXc09Pm0pYYnfifQec1ebS76cHsrBjbulIPWvQGtKoQlWqAQgLWZz8fa_Y3yNATT7D-QJAsDnBEOoVYleUJCe4j8O8CrDwPUuVPg268MVU67GF6KkuITfahCrDq-K9vViqK79WQEaP_ndQ-Vra1UJop6GuBXVTugvbwJ2eJhwx0pOsPw_Vuak4hLjXLcc45WdDo-_xY5pANS_Etl3lo33Cfb9SYhnJpkNdqqi218iXjjN-NRZZCyjgmUhe4Ance115zwaN3shNHwjsAcVZEBvwAtUX_j1U8HnKLOqzhSjG1RrZIBG23CRN3n_2ZP0fmm5PjAMCrqgngFpAj-_AlV3Dkxgol9ba_15W3d3pAlOQpE6J91ERBOVl6jqbtD6V47Vu0wDP4GeKPhgPVV_QPb8uYKBKAivKPmmwB-ttBUiLz0W92ACCEwSIB8HiY8ZEPgGrPbb04vPTWMu1YKOlLaavfVrQ7WDaAiJz5pp9czlj4eslTjpNfIva6UI2rYI4HV0HzdqlxeunpV7w-0cjA0INJaj12UA69b4CD4PJr8I3MEiXO2zkO1k8YYuhYIdPNgr1-FaJ7zmTE3Fjf_KSaJAggdclRAl-NOd5rgyHxY3FBNPC4F7af6Xa0dc1YlXQCMhki8rXQEDbiNcn-n8DPOanDZrujhPeAunSEzm1XC4O1WE=w1500-h914-no?.jpg)

The post office - hotel - saloon:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3ahAuffBVY6lUVvDwQetpEfUzdFJbpVKtGsKpzaBYF0KdfEZASJew_lrHAYXbRhmAmQlQUDyLRl1fplQtSHGzXCv-s-ryh5oc3N0sVTjZnvRAZe8mKZwzU4iOzslwH5oZ8d9gEAgJf4ezP1qNYwfsSg34t1L3KkxDF4I-1rWCkMmxE-IC7i8iptFClRRtqIxHqjIj8s2G_mNmoURWv-4an_Ub90FYtwABztv1W7_dJMUyJ17r4L7yoei4nUTfbaxHmAJVVbloEQw_asQbznk_L8GAUUxwc1VKrFvNYPSv-4MYbUOx8h8VqtAZc2XjRXe2q-69dvLag_k_jQo8ZNjbu8Kh9jygVlV3BeahYpcNg_AWosgQzr66UTnvlhMscmyI-gHnL9JQBwKaRmy9rllPSE5PTHMmIr0vVhoplP8cyGCL-FWPFDNSTlLwy5gIP016qbS1gRV1XkxGkQvY2RxYUi_LuoTGixyAhCGCyU578SgZcgrKqBjt3Fgi5UjQbDMZly7rNkDdKro5_E7FLylEUoeF6NgnO3KbgnB7y-uB-BqLyUle3wRP2H_s79T8sg4itkqNjmI5qkDwcYDboYvyA8TrR3vt8QeJ8QqmJwAukX1kW_RyjJVgfG2Y3fQsvTMr8_qul_2-31GDk0tFAivLtlFRuUxKR3mNxQtpYxiXmXEDdYckzIKonDgq_qoANuqNX8JQfndVEvqAEQ8zNE=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

Blacksmith:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Yr3zaSWt6ESLN-SOB5OWXL0HTakdvrtAFjsNXkOUmTOKxuRuGOfCWZoy8xm67Xyv1vFGCHtXj5RfQ1uVrDVanaGvtueXBtoGPyVjIAtinLf4NXWiDI9H956M5TQPkwWQkfqMwDZI6DBeygMnAvfnFiDNYBgo4cllNhIvvUuid5Ernz3TCyd6pddBDzHv7lEDtE9jPmBuN8KBEXXQBzMg6Xmg76fG7EafT6QzFWjNcGNsSqYT_YFqy-YEMZJXbH21a1kSgG5KvprAhFV6Zrm1_7Hr-1C0SLzdacfFGwxr6iJGc86UnOwf3_CZTGWzhD6FLGrU6a4E-YqOOIRM0dJmEC4HbeZdtHMCYxveElZGdbZkb-j91g2h6UGnP3MBZAXbbJqQObApNjag--3_-uX0aGOfyvFRotpb0GgnVZ92tXvbQvuNv-IEZ-Bq8WpkRTD6BQJcZPAAPLKfV9ZHv0s5sK50KShhAFYfSOuByerO54eUWjRBNZoacQyYeT8COIc4z0JdYC2INtehHIC7sLLadY6xIRGsGoLvTe9KHsLVdEY83j3V-5-cXlXKS-popkh7wKxH_IUnE1WGtfIG-CT2a-nQVWYheDlLFSIPy0XBBhnq-iY2aebLNpwWq12pEHPPzbR2dcHPxVhmpkeUkNiT4pzdbx34TtxHI_qtXITlmuC3ujm6-E_-zJORamNr2zxMfdylwMfxw9MxQPthJ2Y=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

Small freight depot and some company houses in the background.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OnyBfUFZenYGJXkhNXqWdQ8llieUhL2YM-FwJ07245iZ5WRTisDgOs64QVVf8ZoMGpgWv3oNuRye4AZ6hGTiFSVGpovVsLsGn9ohWZizr5kFELX8LqfDKPn9h5uWy0L_QdYCOtPGyRVaGyfLbxWghA61Rq-5-glhhnNUGMIS5O83_3XELqC9P3c_Cc9UzMKz6ddrcSLquXSLxe9rfuvU2G1jsdgwY7UzA709wnT5fHEN1kITF9i2mmzsVk0wAyz-lO_DMYXLlE_Awir4nK45-YCTP-QzbFYh5IzSJdAjU_9QZqaQDHSFb4zgZdigERK38gYThX4yfuu-jXuIkdgEcGv-JWfVZTauQMDQC60ysnTho-0gv04a0dL75z_b64T4JIBrN_C2VEcTCtX_lE5JfGZKvnRm2OY9u41-vpc9udQk21S06ja--V3OCML6Omi8JAkEIKdupUNbNf4Omj8S_lYSTQYGbqBIl3cSrjgLwNGiBZTTLX_RSjVEul5bfqc_RzcjEKUXiLk5-5brk6ZPAOePvuL1zqOaEHhSX_X1ONHMY4GYkwBS2di4CElaVvrGbpPEOH7EfQ4Mm57ywJB46jrJpkmKVoNoYcF_B-uGz0WNFAGvcKau4foXoJ9FXmS4vXh436ky3pcqr1mQyrmxUrej1rAHiwySumYcCZufTEBrAddZFMlwLrCOj4vFlLlP8uMonDkTxX2-_MP0Hy0=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 04, 2019, 06:34:10 AM
Around the corner we get a water fall and a curved trestle similar to the Mann's Creek tank trestle.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/82LoL5DbU0f3kxrtQVmKWwlnXMgVd1ZNw-ti73PnNaZKZzFIzwYzF9gwDLg6lsGt7AZOfpZadQf3H4-04x3aN-2kA1KirITf0ut2z3BDXRLGjz_5JZGO-EXsAatAU5c39pOS82Eof1dNno_UpxN3jEsRaAPEsmY-eG7MmpqpOIie3LtvewtT0S8TTpKDxjyKs6sH3MXTK54ehtFZ-shTXgM6NiTrAqGy2nialj4MYRkleTU2HFlTi1_GapR2G7hqs5c2wElZ9XPp_1uc2T2Zxv4h0Gfam8Ie84yX7mRKJCCKtmm2jzPGIB59TVLzxvljLLpzsUVCFWNKMjS3NEy75BbIT_04n5tXjRu0KsJktbp_0Vq7o62vZ-KOTJ80QQ5AgvkFoWlo-FQFUku9hXteYq8-UB4pHqU5Bz_TH7hjYxRwKt7JGmfOQywCxIb_2qAnzbdgKTfUOy5o3rgSMbTZsigvlSCmd2DYfF7v2A5zbme6HtFdG4Dlr5PlIcj25QYJmGw_DIJRi0SLYW4_JkBjjPfZRiVbhGVota9Evm5NMXT0YA864kvhCdywmAHqFSWbBnoJAFp0BJHTm_E2zsKvSyD1BAURD8CilASclKFjm_M9lo_ehqDxI0gnKnBvvdS5tiDyXk4RVeGoTOrI4e1bF81MpOnPNhAmJOPRbdA6tRhgYFQS3z5M1zaJX-s8rx5UVt2_3de7IwVxf_iAzn0=w1446-h939-no?.jpg)

The other side will just be 2 small coal mines with a road cutting through the center.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7NnSAGuDu4GN4xCpQ5s8d4-kI2e8oCJFVlR_S8BRU1W3pt1NF8hRa-iE8vYOjCEMW3EuYAuhIfbnWucX3rrnN4E4bbERsDROk1WJmv_xk2ohGVb3WMnCKuJFLxZm_Iq23ZdhYDk4EyCIf7wrdVa2Cri0kJIGCpKXGP3zAuggrSFREqx3neystBe_pE_d2YU1PxiF3v97sTVVCiShuoxfXOHSnXd94DbiSUsoTAa5PWadqiA6LI56S25t-6Nf5peOa255Vdt6Xn5eTrWKepHBu3oVQ7E7LjvwWYBxwYJIYIgFvz6OgalyXmAYkG-QkZXZSpBipbji89FE8BlSx7KuVWzuKG5gm5v7596rEA3BPKY3mNz0JX93rFihQQfB_oaicqN92ne0vlUz63sHPBNGCSGFzMv5v9gQ7Z77jB8Xo3QyrRydeOGFHoMIbnraw5KBZDewqusTgOnT5O_x6nCUA4UVhoYib7k__trjW7A3SHURQ9AwBODwETH_0eSo-uFQ6qloGUfeZEA2baR_7WXEL_t4aH_XWCop4inmVjNEY1ksT40Od2BCyQ1JdRuPXeUmpBIlxrr-h5Ksia2UfT9hiKu_cYd0vD8yqKmTI6HHFmfi_V9n5iMNe7n-kIUEIvIm3egRWvk6UDuD-4vNotvLgB6KZYuW40RGgULT_cWr8kJyAcg3nALSex4OclTL4QCd8I9JZhjPpbZxiY-sT_o=w1500-h598-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bqwQ6QGmSmZAtnKUucoqRGaWuQKqzbe_7waa0diDFJsuGznv9k88PBYn2Al4uWxyV5U7pRbeXc0s8wq_6ClIxtHJPLBJsb1t5g2N1eyIbDL6GEzssUdZpxASn657unuztN-k6bfIc0pYD7JL0RluxK_ufVzfVmfLUFfLCs6mS0xS9h6t0c8JCLATJZyBKH82hpqj6SfWJjhoYdrG7KQfEHED5wfsPAB-1alrHuTJ6NJ0Lb5n3in5xaZE8q6chIlE7H-PkPGgB_rmYloDECS9U4NUKIxDlYRVxVOdK2PbOfSBkKqoQ1yNz5e_3SJe7XbXcS-xEQS8gV4sdbbl42Ca6Uci4diVEjZ3twmkIoFaLmQjn7DRJijcz9ekEiBy-e7On6BvGWPUaU3ayDw4MuH_PeSaGlzmHXqj4g3Gw-jV2z5KVm5fD40r09XF5NimU67UREAasxCZpmlqrKmgAjlYBNJhMzQnLGgXUABbW_rrUzz1Gbv6k4Kpbu_RPSVpSA9pdpZXX3c7WLuXulP0MV3alPnskhe3_rxs493M4-ZPIaLt1qbXpRk8YBQwRtaOaNkYTNdatGvFzMmmQ3ShgUJ4hEo5IR9tQBRgkPB_Kx7H8-gmgDfk6WMHu20rHmfy0aC56OtuzIk2ri_PH0SyG3_AQowacJespMNk46aQRLR3WBjBYs_9205PfGCOd7ZZ3jII3oFTYdmzgJ9hlNzpfT4=w1500-h547-no?.jpg)

All the building so far are scratchbuilt. The water tank is a way cut down Atlas tank with a scratchbuilt base. Made trestle bents today to get that area roughed in.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 04, 2019, 06:37:13 AM
The coal mine on the right will be cut out of this old small layout of mine:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8kFEpXXsrQFtLLGP2pYd2wmycoPB53MveJQN9qVwxDNCPDcSfNmQks-vkDV8rrQ-RyY0ir0GL2d61Qf5AOX_UZrun_RlNnVa0p3k-d5UOTH62NNAeV__zTgZtcO-7w8xT6ZU4ts1TMek_0xogYa9W9nzUmt5TJM1aYNUUi4yPjrKFBbhR_aTg7kH_NKtj1OYVvTQ-hpUoMMSpccwUVrffcv9r-b_RU44H_O-bhaSZG1CCoxEwZ257MyfGTtlw-fKMyQc0V0cbWk5kN3GyAXb-CQ6-wxmJQoa2XR8C1bt_2kHEdh5tR4zN9gp9bkQzSZRhAUfLY_-z4MC4OGp-CiaeRz8TlQFnvERLWPVzIKFGAJQahOjFoReBWl9imFLs8Qtt7sAXGFYNCENDHWLBhePOyuezo3eUV1AyohOH_Y5qrF6ZzIRjZz2bMLghnPSwPEwwB3ft9Tc4-hDKXBI6UnEbd4LncaNGmR332TqzGZTb6u2liX1yiavMiboW_m8P9_mff8ekrFMwDFdP-yVMJeYkX6oivnbQa4-Vrefuo-jxL-m2swb7P5kaMXBfHvllh73sF6dYQiLe6FG_mC4ECJ4_SD0lSqiIw2xwiIRVmdMjdPEb-OPMVW6e49VwZufG_UoneUTHp9bVZVzWIeT8AixWWA0x8ebn7ZWhsFI4doKjz96jjxB0AbJ-VqiBhTeqYBzqVMEmclLrw3mHbFyRpo=w1655-h940-no?.jpg)

I'm gonna cut the whole corner out:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6d0E6YGyWhpwOLhtGhnUei2pX_1Q0NuYZaFq4YDgc01207qpYDPc1ueNnqdxia3-W9dnjmE5csEY1EOu2y32RfKSsisI4XOTCgjLwpNo5Ku4k1OqxNCljJVd9LgHQKoOTnqHYohI35EuZUqp5X_nTh0YwpSM0r4y1CybMvQ6s8_h4-VXiNt-2mkxEXgT-DXWqHtf7AWw-D9LUJhG-VdqDsZbZDoIynitjyq9_Zxja2mYOULoqOwxjaAkF4EwaM3_2qq78v2btyO1bcuzGssl1iDy2xOHbVDzqvltIdfhiD4s-GCwK-q2jah3vv2ZvQ51ZN09oTyDH3QD-rkEucJdRDoB_UErOJ7EGunXUV65ALqwil8HJvGHUQSeSgJXLkHRwHk8a8sRVkAV4kcn3rMPU1OPx0DTEHatTXoC1AzoSGHEQrlp0w35HLh3p4AEu88iBrwoXEd3iXvdSN3VWdcwlpTxzbsudnxj8dmCp_YYHGdyJhSQemyNcphWl9lLddoJzEblSBWPI1Win5FMytFDtI_xI2YLymjMxHVpXj50f3bQYjn8O2ee1mi09bVJH_iCGotPS6c1d4ESQZTdRRCVqNy0IYFwU0RtXW6181SSxV3_4B6j_B8ZSBqaM6vCEMJBGYrI6koSE8BV0f1cdSDYjCH1AD3l0pbTxyf1cS_b_YVsBTH98wqVObXvU3yphd46KTgGjMo0jX_b5gYYa9Q=w1920-h634-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on January 04, 2019, 09:50:16 AM
God damn this whole thing reminds me of the Wanamie stuff!

If you haven't seen it, it's all over the promo video:
https://www.johnpmedia.com/dvds/short-lines-amp-branch-lines-volume-3
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 04, 2019, 10:29:22 AM
So that nice big layout at the start of the thread is no more?

This is my sad face:   :|

But yeah, I remember you had some issues with track buckling.  I kind of take for granted that humidity isn't something I have to plan for.  If I ever do move my RGS back East or down South, I'm gonna need more rail gaps!

Love the new loco too.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 05, 2019, 05:38:31 PM
Starting to carve away and build up the waterfall area and figured I'd post my theme music:
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I visit this place many times a year and always imagine a railroad running through the whole park. It also happens to be "Mill Creek". There were a few mills like this, but this one is the only thing left. In fact this mill is the 2nd one at this location and has been rebuilt a few years back. There is a large water wheel in the basement.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uBEbQeBMkqzcfgkfSzohaX5sl_mo4KOcPDuC1qgJ6TdKPxnwed-eOvraazayo8ZoT6orwRgkFGvpUfgTkQlmrhJ9dg9MuDvvnClqRWZ9QR9yTruPxXfGOI6XpVcOpQy97usPSCjCCRuIsodkUY4HSAwFxrie0DIx0CIcMGAgv9KOWqwDhgyP12fi4Yrsk2Gm52A32JVDMyy_DVsCiPspUg_b2rK4o_jXPN892sGzs2H_-DwVIZ4p9oazJ7CGnCuWAX1e3XZYV9oyv0m6oah4hTsd88Cel9Giu91cPdNaxiDoBKmmQk5KW0VyAv-L0UjKfmyaxZNmS5dJs1g9yyNZKSWVozr6Vdhzvx2OnaYXsFR60nYhAKavLUr-GtgwtmioZlZ1qMJrus4kAh_SNzkrBdZasQ6D24qMzcpq4DHaSSuSJgIK9peCg0jWowWpLMlnVF-cKEeGoM3HlOqApTMYGRG-eBYWu6Jlu4tM2v8-w5KybiWFWm6yblEPTPqQyM76M0j0qtoS2s4fZIou2-Mz3CcULlFIrUNFizTGG4izTe4eDEl3RNDDUMYNX6yLq1uWYeHIVIbf4e2sTZedwXeW59NEBaBX6ate4GbXXykLmuYXgbilk5Q8ar9FR7TDTmTPQBNt56OFPwSZup3qdSu9q8inxzVhg2fUMuAftgDLaPQJDEohe0LoBO03LMfVwwB9-ks6uTLjViHYj9QP-Fk=w705-h939-no?.jpg)
I like the undercut behind the and to the right of the falls.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ygGUuz4ll5BXuEqUrxNE50xfgY-eQkvTu6dDBkxj0Y2Snh5Dp82OmuPwiOBA7j3M3gT3_HkAuRg4iBYT-kDP0-STCIiUebQ1NjBZM7XEkxgFNAvzYpzioj9QFdxR28CP1tqnCBhdcJrvpW435NU1pV5bdpLooDGzfvwXYCBEqJED7fiwVYrw7U1ZWRIcFLmThDTSYYlZMY5f72RJfq4Zd24aX6xZsnprjM5GvWZHx6EnwLpN8XChoQR0kbnSgtF3Y-NpzLrReS-sNkckFoL-yqbDT-8v29MfnY_z36gyy7sqZljlB1hMEVbnCmSEHl0R-qZIMu-zg15mwD4KO58i4hCtCahWyXxqIfpoRxqesxQ4GrW22ekCRW9XGTxCkYjpzmww2u6dUIRuWdyMAwZaA-pgHuSma8IYNzQOmyARlSa6v_XPDssgrVE6igQxqB5KA59HKxjkm8cz4NImGDuxxJzpd_ExrEf7t250LdR0PIzyeXc6i5fAoVmKh4gHTvFUVRA1OFbHeT2MGPvFv_t4vWIdG-D8Qa1eWvlTMTY37qDdr7kCOtnT6bUI0iRn4GMchysGLKO-df5oqUEw0-4eCedpY96Zx9yRHmssI4eltHAAj4LxLZNG5GfOVeoGF4lyf46XKV_c6NCaOURy-hc02Bug2jrksgGMOK48yonWMQ8SW6oa4Z86HOqaB6Xz3qy8cAz8gQW1X9ReLg_FeVA=w1252-h939-no?.jpg)
The internet says the falls are 15' tall and so are mine.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on January 05, 2019, 08:46:07 PM
fantastic work, as always, Chris


coming together very well


kudos on your modeling


sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 08, 2019, 05:35:51 AM
Here is some trestle porn:
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/1107/24/manns-creek-railroad-west-virginia-trestle_1_fb3916b61fa368edf22e718cf4fcd1c6.jpg
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/data/quarryman/2010426223210_100426_29.jpg

So I had to make brake waters out of poured concrete using wood forms. I lined the inside of Legos with wood strips.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ae0ZAdh5Rhpq7V0wUH0dLH87SFt6CkvCpPFaTmUE5ozpLJ_nz-dgKYZgyrv_iYFthZh-pL7jfpPYMrtoJ2daN9jw5FBQa8DDE-LHiQ5gotZ9iNXV7qx0owTOqd0M9S5MAcRQC-9iphUXhkNF5QY3-Mxxh58yhR8WcEh64E-C_NuQ9EnFERZVrcUTcCIaatTNFoRU5446P3pDEvCAyp9h8YVgBlFmmcFJXKS2hIL9ZrqafYWU7D0HAyAkxZC9Voh9TnwtMJonv0f2udwohtP8sk9Sz55VhGZ11NiTH30t4GbebiU3lEI0VFPCsXgF2Wl0wS7TNBl3Y2cCxpyoskN1S9cDHK1TeIj7E3wK1ijHCumCeQI1iCKZbCOYeqGG_miUR4am6T2o7EzcWXC7GpRDa-UdvIsh-c7IBowSYE5NL2NHIA4c8G0Aif1IjrtcoieV_CbDux99lrMMxzLJnCxqpCdlJES0z5ObWRQ1kan94E0z6lBB17KVFnoLBn_vE2JrGLkKZqJ6XmJ_HAFSbSL_D3xmwhXQv6mZRFBHsTc3lh6dG3fxQh-Qz1JWUE5VO97qmdz9N0YFrui8HQbV70HI7OzVWA-Q0PN27PwBnSLCDeGzA9Z526fNN10954q9lpi2tAKyku1HxH8ajdmMKLlKk5ndFTVbBZmF9lSgKD_WQobVia2B_1CWH0qjCINNhLsR6UGtZd-QLnJPK-fOfwk=w800-h445-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eI5Rmw7bThCVUsKn46tqlaIYvaXQcmyM-mtQB5e4WWdGZaRwyey05UlgfXUoJkTRahQIkpfxBodNaWJvrhS0ktY85CFXDwoa-sCbu97reToHO9ne3OuBqCiiBJZKvmxrIvV9IhomgYlbUUo8yprlvXiGNkhpyNA-kcFYvLZwwke09KEjkNImJxv4xl5ZnPk7aWip3OXpXNj8iMPhzbQSfX89UUWxbfOlOIh_Aiz7FBA-2MjaXhvV5XUgUd0Pe4zDBf0iUz1W7OpgmEaCbCE76afJPpfLuFgVzFawiAM-l5XMCqn7fSzW7eYnuQEJ_jxo78prREHXMxIVyoXzlvRSEA_vzC7pNI6_E7ttPvpKrl775l1hxdU4Ny6L2mAILPTBnefLk2-wxDIUBF6spvCzoU6iGpKuz4croVJthWaz1etb5fYypGDHkw_DJfdUm9JxTob6ZGy87V_JVGyJgY7_LAnhSpJNw6jsLVNJsCxrAmKKYwdGNyd_qGw4QUzTp5pF9QPinijpshkTI2AAINe43m83BcvV9rRRWK5zGOxIGXWSjFNtIt3G0L8XHpxSGrzmxz99j1PmtYgDILSF1-b6QAfHhQ7GYrZ_LyrjrxBK7VTmDUdo9rpwkQXnbnRzJUvI4r9rHPQQLXXFl64rTGe0HXV8bS4wA7ibLzIo2GU15Jv7PbHe6muGk6-2qz7TSXPYHTwBwP0WB83brTr3iG0=w800-h618-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Yl5wxcv5KKvZh4qTvn0e99ljVEEA3VVzIFCwOp5HN6xLSJW02UjYYWSiB4S5rrGzM61RAF2MzDr4IR2oZXiDrRFMrJ4-Na7rUM9z5WV9nDwAiw-WRzEs5Fp8oI5aUSEjKpkwHJgJgJdCzgRosuaDIpA6uaPcRxiWNphSQpuyCvck0sUYJCWJdO2saAHKkxZxI4A2pO9Y-SwYM2n5UUPT0BqsxrgL91FOLRC27cb9RZNnIeRyNPmfh2sJrDYkbQs3a-6DgX9fyyCvIb7vgUqedQwbcO6-J96oCQyaPlcVguGXcdVbYXCnmhGV3EaSLn4bCCVFOumMgOnzrSHrii1ku_3M4W_ltET6iCeS2DHfpk_ZmIqp_IW36Yqv-k3PZN69SnQB9HQvq59vUtGhlzT5oFPWE6HDvOPr-3W6nCfY7P8pQ33_H2thONM2dZY2c01YbvaszW9SivahJGPMi_SL5YX2dTfNs5_p8xFuFJ2J8Wwyo_zkXL8el3FLHXspQgqdaa9bjE_yoRvLBLR5le2wxM1jBfCUGgNbmldxmNGYwCaOtqk25Hlu9wGLnp7o40YkIr6tuJqOBx1XCbi4Z5r9kS7LlS1pZa6ebQFrwjrNhrB3R0VMTGX83ErNsnQuJESwGGhL6f5OLWPqHEZpXAdyVA3_TnOuWnuO8kjKYrjjo761lB3jcdwwo4phtjdqJ_D1krUXkdo1nbBL_zObzek=w800-h710-no?.jpg)

Bents are just sitting here loose:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IPCIty6B9GHby-N6OBgqSa4g5hjG07a-sDToc1GrOvavZYUPsNjaXzJFKogL13pGg8FdoLF5BeOr_78esmJsmj9-u1ZBFG5vomlRnpxKiTUIVRRAoggDezlXYfG29e_KcKhZ6JSax5julQ94PPyCfIFVH7O7Hg6uD3Qiyjt4p0gMsWVFlCGFuLL4znYoFecxK3xiThuKGH2IPewgoP1JaPbCvhPg8J2mEL4avgV4QwONPMuw497p_wJEA4p6GLNmGz57yQE3a8u2neZj2LJdVsqvEfaU6Oi3RWKTsrYuVx3-77kJEYZ_CGU4t7okqwzCnIGBaU_8T9oHqNh-ximV06eUnmNlLU1B_ZrJpUvQOdszfI7-hVLDu0dL0kXf7u_FykDTUAgx9uhms-RkQB-_sph9I4vhnxGRsxBLO4kC1uXCRHjlZvuKwcbrZ6g50wBEN-lTiZft4Mmflq8u9tqu9FyRMgHhva6VKMItJPOvVBtGY9I-iSTbn2pnxTzFzPPzOZ_xbi6irv4QcMyor4BXofFA1yBGtjEgbLTyIXoxWBhPROcuROVIKt1fFmAxxRCNw_jEFRcNgiq9_6xcF_X4cahhV6WghkL6fdocjKZIJ9GEH3wkno7vzAQIO_-s7rSk-0bQv3SYbt98c91AjeNJnKbkzx-1_P0JVaygjGWHi_MPXl5KL9d8pDOvDVe8hhic6IAnBm2njEK3Qu033M4=w800-h501-no?.jpg)

I have a lot more work to get the rocks right before mounting the bents right in my way. But it is nice to have them made to see where they land.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on January 08, 2019, 12:25:13 PM
Here is some trestle porn:

More like layout porn here.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 09, 2019, 07:23:17 AM
So after bashing the crap out of that Atlas water tank I didn't think the roof looked right. I checked photos of the Waynesburg & Washington and their water towers did have tall sectioned roofs, but the Ohio River and Western didn't. They were flat.

I pull the roof off and added boards:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rZ2kF_z6vevxAS2oZHb_R1wSXmwZTsSuccg4lSEiAZMCg4qd7yx5-ydIioFvpMH-vECVblo5AF-QYiXDdnFtIqZ0-N0t95AvFTC-Cu3eg6RDZHfbdrBx4gkRIZMa9uQ4gGXn7UQZSRLvMmMDU0B9WLqYFpMGqVSYXeMmhPuCdlCGFT770E39tG7PtZOPtJGLElcqhlS8Q69yscUxrpW7GuHMfpoD7Uz5o5969LGbgHCjOGdSHj47BVLYDd1QyMJTw_ZRQGGnwRHj8yAtQANbB499hlj15jHQp_3kYDGLeAeBx9fbK0-bN5NSfnmGsFrgYYTSG75oEXfQt4rRz7uMmNOEmn8r4x9mxGMy916mfU3mTk2QnlDv0o_z72LUD-O4I6lyHZcEyfwsYH7adynOvClIw9F4_fEYqXt4PG-OM2w4Psei_fEx3iSAVkaYiFshmPVreKgg5LlrYuoc7C6QuRXUz1T2zcqXbTKsgC1D_IwxWWYzcvd3hUJsnnIeLlWbYRPvoKjEweqp9TBYCxNQd10jBB_jB81xcKBGkFL_WKPMRqIY4lh3jTaqQp-w0oW1eVK7VOx9iewsuE578AKuo9cnKILlf3ciQRHig9vgeu4-k2ra-TnqLj_12ZpkJ33E0hTid8gchy67nRBH9STcz-f4sYorkllTTwG9rhsC8PZLuG221wEwwL_Q191dfFQQ9e8DpoHFpxpZW4xt4I=w1215-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n1fPZcAD-uFGm8xw2_CZjbXww63eRfE2-fPXKDXFePOfeXtrxO5gs3ZXvbBbP9q8ahQPAmgRxbI6J8ATIPMLijvHsj358Zi79FU3yilCXsB_FWh64RkLZr_MU2qdsE6DAgMDjjNM2Y3TtQXXAXXaQaa8FKYtj-jNZysBgvS7KqR5tin0FgMZmO5U1a5vL74976jKF1aj6jp1Zp2BzNeQAT0Uc1dAQtQ-mrLp5OAHbNCxIayu6TpweTo0xOuMus-dn3FpP5di_OFVqx-Mwd5D45ov6XSPR_Hws1C1tydV_E6L1ARySkYuct9whjkFJe-pGHZ1KYJB8ZRNWBSMZQeeemiAH3IcXAIc-Cq4aMeJrMWCjCVjeea8quLHTCAC_FtUwknKcNAFT3kF-6cpj8VY9i4ooXDBnqkNwww8vp7XC2VeMw-MmPn5xlUZAGUwd5wexkSCUz_eYKZjTAu3gU__rYAQYiXsHnjpVK6-BnnsUjReTgTMdynY58kYaPoG5rxiW4IwPzHoylPdK9cbl_fo4WCdk6mP8DLyXPElDDumy-FTvZdFuU9kwsvMi9jJL5Ip0RMbCuIeSEovH3vQwDp2qLown6H9Oigen4dgv6WfpAHg2og01V906dZ3lQ7KcGO_6fNNITFTTpsv6BWuAIGqIKq6L95CIHGDEy1oQu1TsqVeaFLcXjGxNUGDQeNxyTStw6XHnXwg0v_TCStP1L4=w908-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Santa Fe Guy on January 09, 2019, 07:58:04 PM
Beautiful work.
Rod.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 15, 2019, 05:38:25 AM
I took a bunch of photos of this area, but for right now it looks all washed out till I get it painted. Trying to interlock rock work with the trestle bents. And a fan so the Sculptamold will be dry tomorrow.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VgEb8CNxYeVeHNtbsSbHFWK-wBHkfqWHWyjjORTAEsGDYWnREfBlW_2k4fU0GqVpH-NgXqDXIpvOZwPaXiO21C5EL7ORwP9fn09Hma5VMLiJVRwt58W76kfhwG4cKO1hpo8GkAcG2dwKXAGANoOskmIWSPF5QJKf-8bf-SsqF7tfaPqrjuXq8IQIqXYz9gvv08YeNB_oUTI6uUKdSgNzB7KXPVMRV1ZHuthhAjaUizmVFCbHBKHtDW2AcyZ55HAfvUERk7THop7-DsEolnyhu76vUdhgLhmeWTbCVOlQBNK-w5mVx5PgeB77m3fukOvXB0Y-nNasTVjOidAdfUmlRbu2k1pWeUtEvsEH1Wi2tjpCp5bmIzeeX_0dNRYBfQp2thKWte3-HyeUNvaKBrZCUW8_CLfzD3uJu_0cyhRsES7MWcbaEUMmpOao9_SADz6QCB9DusXXz5_jYpbZrtTcpk-qIG8EVaKzUxzVuZb65IX7zUA_ODfZ-k4CwrvWnTjafcxqZ1WdUTQIRyjP4OaPCqggorrmpWTpxIZYJlfGYtyHCvdKxuNeILyl0xTZV5PjeNBbkrJWgRTQDnVWnItwbqcQIg_LhyahdjtuLnzLeew-dxUR_32Bvlyt4fDcQ9h4N5Flf28C2r0IQ9qUcBPbOj424oOnoI21a5qVMtp-gNI-txsaFDN6I6YUJDOGC8wE83nWGzwsTpLiRXvmNGE=w1282-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nuno81291 on January 15, 2019, 07:41:18 AM
What did you use for the abutment? Looks real nice.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 15, 2019, 03:11:26 PM
It is poured out of plaster. A couple posts up there are photos of the mold.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nuno81291 on January 15, 2019, 04:05:42 PM
The cut stone abutment? I did not mean under the trestle bents. I searched up thread and did not see any reference to a material or product used for the cut stone portion. Looks great..
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 15, 2019, 04:35:57 PM
Oh on the left?  That is a Chooch HO (medium) sea wall that was cut up, edges beveled, and super glued back together.

http://www.choochenterprises.com/8570.html

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/q4zXzDPhJ6izyP1hWgo5MMp5lEEMopJ_11zk--upIWf0PiSezqH45Q8sp6KhEruSDX6wuZBIxrFYKeWfLyvBqg26AyS2vCbZinPMD0OQSP3Iz_PPZYhNPmkVPnfBnq6rQ9f-qC53SU7DcVAMPuoRhtRk4LU0NYYMFk6sbi8SAHUjn9_B7wrLTBDlosEj0LNpk8TD35pG5moBieWObdF36ORTqFHdeVWyMPVkU1i5w3fniWczMa5sfKr9iwkSTbbM703pNcW_pUsq1E-2Um4A9yexmiRI1yw7idJM64pUSfU_YHsoPN7nJv3ddaKnVG3EePoCG_QERoSkfP7fnfuC7KbVcG_vw8w1dPsPpAnWhxxgDhwMRc-8hQEwS1R89ytwx7vy_FDB8h9lWl0ASfhv3FyL73x176mQDJP70akPIS5fDkT3RDpLYIi_W55YnUoOvy2smPZVnZacjLI72jJJnrQsRNoktJuhtpy7qn0yMfnBAazrWUIrH0O6bSaEM88WfExXiX9viVSaD59wQH5hgklltH9AkOo3Wb1ucMD8NhCmSKPp6e4SwhVxChAP7LUe35YZG-JnnPPXh6koErwsROg69FYo1D8SQd425Bc2upU4LldR7wbk2K_206iIWteewfAqXZ_G8Z7tPFzuu34BJh3NYYVvPZZnFZqzoAAJFiiTC9-LT-0ct-D8QgCLQSePvqd4Y0gE4efNmymSxpw=w1500-h862-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 16, 2019, 04:48:01 AM
Since I mention the Mann's Creek RR so much and because I was bored. I did this little map of the railroad based on the book I have. Besides many coal mines they also had lots of logging and a large sawmill.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1xT4OtKUkby4kT1Won3OxxfRTOV2YRRkN&ll=37.98625012437175%2C-80.99310844038087&z=13

These is no way I could have drawn all the logging lines so these are just the "main" tracks. Later on a standard gauge RR entered the area and there was a crossing near Clifftop. The railroad moved coal down to the River where there were coke ovens along the C&O. They started strip mining and later on trucks took over dumping into the same chute that the railroad did.

The first 2 locos were 0-6-0's in 1886. In 1909 they bought 2 Climaxes followed by 3 more. 1918 they got a shay and later 4 more shays. In 1955 3 months after the RR shut down there was a railfan trip. It was the last run. So for almost 70 years it stayed narrow gauge. The whole area is park land now and much of the old roadbed is trails now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on January 16, 2019, 07:22:52 AM
Since I mention the Mann's Creek RR so much and because I was bored. I did this little map of the railroad based on the book I have. Besides many coal mines they also had lots of logging and a large sawmill.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1xT4OtKUkby4kT1Won3OxxfRTOV2YRRkN&ll=37.99192144254876%2C-80.98340651313197&z=13

These is no way I could have drawn all the logging lines so these are just the "main" tracks. Later on a standard gauge RR entered the area and there was a crossing near Clifftop. The railroad moved coal down to the River where there were coke ovens along the C&O. They started strip mining and later on trucks took over dumping into the same chute that the railroad did.

The first 2 locos were 0-6-0's in 1886. In 1909 they bought 2 Climaxes followed by 3 more. 1918 they got a shay and later 4 more shays. In 1955 3 months after the RR shut down there was a railfan trip. It was the last run. So for almost 70 years it stayed narrow gauge. The whole area is park land now and much of the old roadbed is trails now.

@Chris333 Link is restricted access.  Any way to turn it into an image or PDF?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 16, 2019, 07:29:20 AM
How about now?
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1xT4OtKUkby4kT1Won3OxxfRTOV2YRRkN&ll=37.98625012437175%2C-80.99310844038087&z=13
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on January 16, 2019, 07:46:52 AM
Yep, better.  thanks!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 16, 2019, 07:48:01 AM
Also here is a Trains magazine PDF on the railroad:
http://trn.trains.com/~/media/files/pdf/web-exclusives/trains-oct-2010-web-ex2.pdf
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 16, 2019, 08:01:04 AM
Just now decided to search for trails in the park and found this photo:
http://bluelikethat.drakeink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/camp14.jpg

That concrete pier is the one that used to carry the railroad bridge.
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/file.php?1,file=28652,in_body_attachment=1
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 16, 2019, 07:59:33 PM
Did some basic base color to the area. The trestle bents are just there loose. Put some quick "water" paint down to show where it goes. There will be another small waterfall at the edge of the layout.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hh7X9sktBXh6o_m51uOKuZQG1GjMrI5vDMyh_jCkj9pCaeNQzPmDilOHS4CQrFHvz8Qnz0JPzLtj6dQWxF2YtYUZHMcRtRx6uHoGTp9-jlcDgcNBEI3iT7_x02Sc1pFyP652vjBclZzUGkZEk1GSPt6mIFsF7NF8PoCRLECl1IKXX28fhhTj2G74pOi9Sdk1aXoCUeWUGOb7AsqT4W9gjxllongwN0cYWtzuyX4DTo0Y41_actzNGdCV9jrecHY_6iFzv3rheClmdzDC6v-EZulY9EQWZR_O1GvRQ2cag71pJ77QLi7ugmqWd_GaRKcA8i4-jurNdvndFgIq7y73ofWYyJOxTHXte9syrnqW28beKzr4M2ukLfuXKuOHjP6T_sICGvpHsSn1n3T3tnLaTmeTtYlUYI-wjRpwRD8D3PODbWMMiqVnj9BomikY2-Dbf5dTYlchIKluppxZlmuQ8EaPjFjm4Rxdp4nwlAPBOsWI1XplUz3kzN2hNYNyy13kT772QbZKh179fbHDpYy6GE5W99PArdKqqFWqrrKN6m-H1Dmy0nePBtroWgWiq-iQKQ4vv-Aqe7OfdNDbov17u8EmjVzleVJ6BWtTAwTS9FR3U6g573B-v8FWe4_tFn0JAgem2c8HSTDMYSlC_vTT9zSe53LQthTbUdmTr29SqevtUyb_RuBLelVpjmzV8ywNOKh5_bH0_Mfu-MfcTw=w1423-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WylbhC_neQ63Ytmfp4qyvA7A3nYvO1lNkw1eVq0aniGAHWnyafG3Z9zkbTn5eNccQq0J3L_LgSn9u5GVid3U6f6LAGKGmAo67ilqbzyONkUO4mkatQQk9ToMv7yUdaz16mUU0ZLly0tzDaVRlo9yX3U7lRpK2rfC85mZTFInzbDP5X-wlDi04P71_RVaSmVv7EbFAl4W3j-ejFOnmgo00pUmBAtwCFQyZGgr_CYq5zxrsh0U4LpANCmQzY0blU-Lkcl_TINiWLkkLkKJ2Rl7fezzMaPmqIY3BgiNp53bX6uNuCdwg6jqO2PALUyd18YGwUpEcumu0GXoLWtiGAGqYjEqP_rYKq4SQKH3LHW0CHvH6e6RgXWmq7RWtE29dYdYqbzpKTmdQiFdPwBfijhN3RqkIeEhmcFFnvzmZqeUmjkO4P5vCgyY1wLfhYQs-hfY44guot7sT6ThcBC5WDUcurArBhavMyM7n26YFuvPReUcW-UyBU3WpePW8FGUEsDT2GbdrCo5LQt8QV5E1mdZoknWv9jzzhqD1UPvZJcEl6MW4sEcDpM8LwgnDU82Cjl2KApP5SdWdBbCg1lRXhNel66rAq0waFqoX_f_U8ZFBdLzkAykQt1I-C_DWKlz1JV-9IerohSgPxF0vFqQC9xbI9qXQBw6sMyUsxblupZvZd7CUeN90JEm5q84_ouTXJNjjLzm2hyUp1Ve2TBLo5E=w1373-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 16, 2019, 08:03:17 PM
I'm lovin' this build...!   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 17, 2019, 03:01:24 AM
So I tore the mine out of the old layout:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OXagTBB1pqLGEodCb8lKKIewHMjQgfnlQXx12ZoNusdprBd4thBmr18E1tKrOUObhz2OfDWWSxNKV6HdUglcBRT3mME-wJXAlN9tsGd4EErw8IbLAKlHjibx0HBM4H4ZbLgXC5nO2cKTcaUlLZckhPst4KegGBso5GXw8zGA0RjWnKzfhBgHzPu9UHRUIwVrBb4ryHFE-CMo5rhoh_26M5WdltMUoisqHBpBDO2v1NPltVz5JG2GxUS68GaHOuuog172sIM_irKUzxE6WcALY4hCSRqy8_MQ-AKh4JXN39FagC1-LPBkQLNcCy3_hTnRhZ1jaoPjQzY5bDq4Ba31i6GeVOUTI0mbRifaZOJppeuUQk8Vu50kfZDvgXgGzTLK8LYz7X8tDNgCU1j8xTP3JFlYIbAQeYx2eTxudrH_jO_tO5OY1M3BUVONaZ14Cbw94EXdkk5gP3lp-3CcfBl_n0iA9sy0l9trnvF2QwEUxbwXY0ZRqsJ3xDadhW95Ikc6W_HWZX28Dg5HP_kasnSOPeVA9C8QxfFSR6Mzi3No9_RrIGsHMBrHc57sKqpG64c1_DhG3zdgfkYOgu4qQ60ve0qanAuUVVI6OKd6AGvexR24YRqdUsQ9-9IsQRjrjDJsd80jlws-784RFtFXWUX8plZ4x6xLCHiqxGlGXS_V_vKboYRDofF619CCoSN-gQYIE2HUcnrfMWrvDjx5yJ8=w1920-h833-no?.jpg)

And plopped it down on the new layout.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uiPYbQEA9eramtVhWn_LIF2TiffsAMF-9MDrg51e3jQ6m6PF7xcHk9tNXudyZzIrin5a6TXvVBPOI9YFRgYfZDMm_prg0gsPzlWY3ERRk7T-l3jyUIQ2C6Hapo8leUB0wCp2Q8CWqMbXGL7KAoJKjQtNKJs9KTa4Ri88xCDGi4YX00NIMWWXq3lDUZClPBvbjAZs2CU1vzrVpif2mg0Yd8SuA_OsZ0LQjcbaAQXyTpojGpOuhAYPvjuCWwBlkRfBVO06rWjMHx_3Ktx53T9PBrU5qtYI8uuGdKjEandiE14LXj5bf6whZp-T8MwaBS1lE0AUbBAHK0ODdAEWIl9p-hhktJMW4RYD9khfgk-S5XROSh2BU9giJHu0qI6HSS60mVkG8zeDdxVRl3cVIHXBeLXkNY15zm7_w5tCRDV-oJ49IUAkmAuUHt2hZx_81JrX6j9dtXQ3OumoM2Za1CHDAbOIMycVNwd1MIx3xYCETQ939WPyIg22jKldp3DWRcjGclmA54FLjil2iYIhVJW6f0Xg_oWAdf53tq-L1uwkfqSypM909SZDY8fMNBztub5XPwBYRYRSkHJEt9icpbx9ytRNwYnEeybFcg6awzX4oBvf3xrgeKIAJiNewhNbZ5Daxny12O5wblBBXX-9JkQjPqd2dEYv6-eHNl4j0jSc-pLufKA3tDvzisQk2T18T0DZNUXiAVF-7m78F8raknc=w1920-h498-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3_S8g-7ToD-Ieec_cgjFGS4HpZ6C5WJyhuiZ0sx4w7Oto0-k4aR38hcU5hBJPNo0QUy8UkjhtJjsePnbfW0xlBBZodrY5-sISNjGx0_jE2kTCYXfzkfNawCUaz7vDr6T7shtFVY0RhLbzqUbtfAJIuFjHJ1dsK5lCrwVVi_k3qr8fu9cCKrbLchk2m2tjVw8vR6j7RW69NsPV4fvRDs4m1bIqsWEXqpXbQSwbIb04lOel3jEAcXwE-xuh0MHJiJJll2dhrUmGkNjFhRzenC-BP_kZUuP-CfRWya2NwAeiwKdgpjMst-KVKxjwlnOYs-pgj1xMV7KCJdicyYXKgYdmutgOWgZ1euVGcQNg3EYx2wW-vKU4Iphyf4OGCjWLtVMdPfkNU_AROTnJ_6q5h_X8i39ioOrRTlTVE9mMVym2HhNiWnC4ZrwmaXDvpxXxbVwgp3EcCtauUnXbKKPNidYAx0O20YSGPmLey8Tjx8p-906qRgKgVjyd__86IK_pIx2qesu8lWHO7rSMOJJcWtxOUiWWW49a2ahppZKlNRLJNcRtmT6GXfhk-drycOPdJju4t35iWPHjnD9bCyQhjFGELK2CICGjZREd31lRFxodKFYT5f0geqsNmNDZfVvaPQq6eZhLpAXmp-xypS4skN9f_oXq-Zx4Zj9JTsP81wnp7uJNSPWG_-C7TuWXXp9j_vkdF1tV7b_cJNT834Ifis=w1357-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PD8pAMhnR6_pueBbZQ9RhoJdiCFrdqc4aMSCe6l1kQJgoKidzox-_wrwLhUnyRVKRAD0lBjT8Nva-At5M6Fw3QMgO2cLjKPoMBKyD88LSbCgv57DyGj0kJCsmq8RNRdl8cIXBUJpAegnMusCyNaX2r3v_dj7-2AnBryFSuPU4K1E--S6UVSKQjbMmyNfhoVfXayYUVOvUjx22GXFh1SfG6g4VuYEZaa8WeJ7FTfjCwZzJr8CRaYQk8nvjMEqTuZAX2KvAFSzfTdHzBBu6_IaPTUKDLtxudulIbZ6shkoncz1I7p_OPbEAisuyNxyg2zb_9hd0f4gLBsSCd85Kc8o5AhS29M7BmjqTOuL5qnPfmcHtGDiqBX7JoWPSDzwAv-sZrgNuh7BwjZEFADKrQGc2dqgbayuqrSkUw955eAS8cg6ThnjqX6AnRcgAJJwQ8L-5WX5g8JXpJhR6uLp5OCYBkj43Ei_YCWwsoIgQmG4WqV3HG4at2H6yo64a7ey0pu285IbqXtLmzMPZGwckeSrdz9S1TUTLe2q7yHK2kiQtRyjk0HzY0zb-vNgZAw-_m26EpGvitP-Mh6xr2-95SknRDzlIDAKwb9URuaVTHyJHZZrq71i-o3e7Q-wGkTL4fUdy-D0oCHWUpPfiNuWuYATH3zHiwy87ZaMkTf7JONPzf8WDkoQCfn2vg7fefMqcRPfrw_03fjARiT9M4vz-nY=w1407-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on January 17, 2019, 10:08:28 AM
Ok, there's a problem with your mine.

As it's placed now, it can only ever fill two cars without being switched out.

If you don't care, it looks beautiful, if you do, you might need to make some alterations.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 17, 2019, 10:16:37 AM
Ok, there's a problem with your mine.

As it's placed now, it can only ever fill two cars without being switched out.

If you don't care, it looks beautiful, if you do, you might need to make some alterations.

That's the case with both of those mines, but then again I don't know what the load-out rate would be for such small mines and small cars.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 17, 2019, 03:49:38 PM
Think I remember that there were like 12 car movements a day up at the mines. There were about 10 small mines, most were on a single stub track.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on January 17, 2019, 05:28:32 PM
The problem I see is a facing and a trailing siding with no runaround. I suppose that's OK if you deal with each one independently from opposite directions...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 17, 2019, 05:54:22 PM
Consider that on the small layout I ripped the mine from the turnout to it was non-functioning... On this layout the turnouts work, but I'll just be running trains.

Here are a bunch of mines around Clifftop WV:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1xT4OtKUkby4kT1Won3OxxfRTOV2YRRkN&ll=38.000241272750245%2C-80.9456515534144&z=14

You can see a lot of them are just stub tracks. 1 or 2 have a runaround. In the center of town there was a runaround, imagine they ran to the town center before the long trip down the hill.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on January 17, 2019, 06:16:39 PM
On this layout the turnouts work, but I'll just be running trains.

Yep, another roundy-rounder like me... Carry on!

BTW, @VonRyan and I were just talking about this today. Tore apart one perfectly good layout to make another perfectly good layout. Sounds a lot like me...

 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: VonRyan on January 17, 2019, 08:52:56 PM
Can we just see a photo of where you keep the rest of the layouts you've built (started, completed, etc.)?

I just keep envisioning a wall of your basement where there's a rack of dozens of layouts in various stages of work.
Or sometimes I envision a corner of your basement where there sits a pile of layouts that never got far past the tracklaying phase, and a shelf beside it with the various layouts that you've made progress on along with the ones you've "completed".
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2019, 03:23:50 AM
Well some layouts are in the corner and some are on a shelf. Some layouts are under other layouts. One layout just became a shelf for other layout parts. Some layouts get shipped out and end up flocked with grass  :P  The small one I tore the mine from will get tossed out after I pluck all the trees.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2019, 03:29:42 AM
BTW the tipple was modeled after one at Whitby WV. One single photo that I reversed and scale to HO, then built right over the photo.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/b2DzwK5tFMotrV8CRNPR5zYjQywC0sa9xvw4QqoQfBbsa2LnmyIb1-RL5CNJV3R5Jo6x1jifVApEqmE-vzlfG7KTzUnUi7-fCZ2G_7dVqitalZF9s6RyU4N8UGO57M9mG2LJTtxckan1XsEs1v_htl0x94V5FO5_c-v0AgXptE04pXBCdu-_I_P_rFH3yTI3ofzz1_zO2P5eRcROoE-TTwVoDW5LhlwA6_M7-j6Utrg8SuOfwn5QQeeneL7ECVCamuPDlc0w3xQ99rc-8mLkBuPQzz9Nj4IajqQkJ_ZTLsNOTFeU1etKsw7Z3Urs1EUTLFshYnnNenFFOrV3o2uA0wZ4EGJ6Fy8pelhMn9-UTQRQc-N9_TzFJdbEy4WBaISsZeWSNoUOUGgD3F6RYh07lNQw2hXFwPdjnrrg0nLNO2DFsIwaiVYmhEVEXRvnerC4tXKVrhKRXC4RBrfYa2Dy_Mf8PYIaLPkQfghXiKrvMnnOMvcINMVGX4T7iuCxQQoSyNVMXljVeMMw5CJLCFKZN9qaqDG_UesMldGQb1tJz6kAj6uVZ7wNHP1o2_3VnzvdQLtmuOa34_ezcuBZBcG-XAKaRtbfFkLBYGLv7mRkViI-_9EkWGjPjDBk-ND7PkxMukQ7ohQ9QS51C_t4xePaAgLa9Gq2jnfV5cybwesVZQRiUAALdOW5dZeE6Aw3iklz3WJpGmTHhGSHii7QQb8=w1000-h769-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/j-iu3L4_ZBdiu0HD4XnwiGs0jTbDZ3tscdPf0tf2y3MN3yvucLu4UCiHaTch_CUrlayYS_XNwdQC_m62EiCX-MBPfa3OZV1JQC1Wtz34Xn1l-pkbNdtHLYmoWv81Nux7RAPCAOoLVM2-CmkGCyOcPuIyUqxTr-a5N_8bjVe03c5_qHhlc9ihMw285io9Y8LdBZeEKSZHNV_4y8gSxIItTPrWDfXhMYmjlOW8jfUX0T1RReafzrwy8eUnwOHmCizNv2ioXsVI2x4gAuA_iTBzX-gDqsKrauxHh3Uuk2NRHM0djq_t4QS7ZSmn27Cqs8jALQhg8YaZWENFL-24MmFFIIXb1F8T7OWt8LkiXBFRC53mRiURAb6G-zj_EYz_vc_fFDsPqCXAOHOiTwo9axQ0VXO_EFenzjQAdUheo0lMx8qBpoOgFGct4l7CFPj6S_IB3afWzrI_YlnvfLcGDWfWW1ohLiM_2KcjL1229HVt6kIK9G_wxb1Q1j2JxKxUfiAdUcPo6aYGg2g3fiUMHnVHp3kAYm1lt_kTo8sMnOXvCxmhQj32fe5qNmKSM2ub2o3ySyaD3ZSsoVm5w78SfJPnRHDb2cnZgSXctJSoN9sSl87YutmutYilQBIOuCWdqTsAIEEO_mXJCR6r8s_34GtFoPMyVAJto205lzV8j8jpLeXzKi4De7b1hdB0mHKR6c3TrmPVXx9bVKHy7u5avh8=w1655-h940-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on January 18, 2019, 04:57:59 PM
Liking all the updates Chris, looking good as usual, really like the trestle. And that real mill on the last page almost looks has an old world/European vibe to it, very cool.

Had an idle question while looking at the mine- having extensively modeled/scratch built in Z/N/HO (and O too?), do you have a scale that you prefer to scratch build in? Or are models just models no matter the scale.

Not trying to start anything, just curious knowing your large modeling portfolio and experience over the years.

Thanks
Lucas
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
Oh I don't know if I prefer one more, but I'd guess Z is too small and O is too big  :lol:

I could have scaled the photo to any scale. The other "mine" was made from photos as well, let me dig them up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2019, 05:09:38 PM
Real photo someone sent me:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aKxnvHMnFyOJxQcnjHebRnTYY1FSGWpwBVf_qi3k-jphbdOQ0fCp990qGvg8zeyckL9nFFaH1ZJ_9S58i_fQSfPInHn0K4xYX5hEkolU_w3dgbP-u95jKY2fF-lCOUpvfmq1ywc4vLbuPDf7RVqh-g_-viLdrHVJHeopaRxP0FapbA40LsU5rGSmWnUy1Y-60d6x6ikfsTAS9rFyBxMns-YWoczdt3uppljs1jcC8MDqQFzCfb34I1UW8RqlG-bRwAl1AWczIEPV8vZJC9YCuQ1K3OMon_5PXpOOkUyWXI26Agh1_eWUn8ES04d7PRzWX1aDnzLSawunwB-JdMkY5RsfBN3XH901ofCMBVWDNAWwc0Z0yDY-MxTJtkrPdx1UfzMyXWSwMZ3iNXTe_lIrKCByO_EEImWPv2SgCQSgsAvfUSc-1JFHofTjQmepC59ekvIubht-Noi3CG1b9aLMlr3EAnWyNVCfVs0gmpUWfh_i1GOEechhIK6m1-XbLGScae8J9U0Tc9r8eZChtlwInfkC01EEKg3pYOoSJfDKq0_OAW2X12a2zbmXCOgz5ZpiVkYeCrsXjIIsxSFMZGUtLcsTDvpzPX4DHFerjj25gG9wSEWh-yEKj-kWkaznkwgqOrI5OC9WPPxThz1_0d8PqB1QtjF1-mR4gQhBF-yC94ogHcmrSQHYCY978AcqxJrm2-boPukUNT0WFGEipYo=w1768-h939-no?.jpg)

Looks like the mainline went right through it so I didn't model that. I rotated it and scaled to HO and:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9KXAPsGRi7NMXjLFWzwii-HbNKndl9F7Ubvfo96HHcZomWzTDseS24kLTK4HPBD7fqyWR-MvugxtXDJpS1hCVrNAvRugCKH0kTymIYKvAPit_QzIHDTSGWPjdwa-C27wpkZeGlEAlP8z81-jLmwiqUsRJlo8ku74QZHsU_2n38VsggEY25VKz4WUiKa7GLxraaty-dWZ3Mu-ZTV7VGtHmXmyWgqswtYh0uVYnbEU3uCk2inC9jXo-4bjeBFoW1bDShOzkzPevD_MoOZZ0E4vSsFulU0SOy_n1sn75GKaURSPnsawvHOe14DvsfmE0E3yq8z7hpNnk5fpGOJnVDS-vvvTrxAUZ1M-HxaY4Ewxg1glbMANX2vWkhbwit7W75UPzAOfU87tZ0KKZ8WJnC645Ou5LQ96iMEsN-H-UjleEGZU1xRnvZUdFEyaVjuakrK8GPOHy2A1px4Kl0hieh6c2xYECiU4B-zxKUad45LSdtNthqUsPQGG6jfz3RBCzY7jq8F2d6dPkReG4VR4d3sd6J9Vz67FieWWfCLpbopJs9L1mjzIyTwRZrRqmUFuMLpzhROkehdsxjCkW-eajaUDZN8Q3JbmoH_HPIad4VB9qpO81ZEAiEJ4pfvjkGMD6bxRMwRmsPcPc_BEv8FVnaau0WuWvSsERSRnEXBd2OzgS7MR5gEPBTl3ozhu2V-57-sps0ZdI1Bo1qoK-sJUu9Q=w1669-h939-no?.jpg)

This one has a ways to go yet.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 18, 2019, 05:16:01 PM
Way cool.

Loving the locomotives too.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 21, 2019, 03:58:52 AM
Look squirrel !!   :D

On the Facebooks I belong to a local railfan group. They were recently talking about the B&O branch that started at the end of my street. Before it was the B&O it was built as the narrow gauge Painesville & Youngstown Railroad. They were talking about a branch off of the narrow gauge to a quarry located in an area called Windsor Mills. A quick search found a mill and a quarry. The branch to the mill was also narrow gauge and may have been abandoned before the main branch was standard gauged by the B&O.

The quarry:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52810867@N05/4871034309

and the mill:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52810867@N05/4871038793

Just look at that mill! I need to model it and that quarry isn't to shabby either. Both are compact. I have already put the mill into AutoCAD and made a HO scale outline. Now I just need to figure out where to put them.

No not doing this right away. I'll get the layout going first, but man look at that mill. For what it's worth the Mann's Creek RR also had a local grist mill and in fact a whole new mill was built in that area:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9793276,-80.9464932,3a,75y,293.97h,89.24t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOKxF2FA1fhnzwJbkaaPzbXle5nWfXc7cJbnuo_!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOKxF2FA1fhnzwJbkaaPzbXle5nWfXc7cJbnuo_%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya102.357765-ro-0-fo100!7i13824!8i3652
The narrow gauge once ran right behind the mill.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 22, 2019, 11:27:44 AM
That's the joy of freelancing...  You can incorporate all the good bits.  It's all tied together with a very prototypical and plausible theme, so I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 22, 2019, 06:57:02 PM
 :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/66DxhpMtmWK28ehF4ysUwPFDdS8bu4QPZzpr47myGXb8V2nD1QDD_Anhjqorzs2cx_IGnehjah7PpQ47GXnndtF9iF0vzYdCDFQaBoyDo_MYriY9s9WxB4R6E9KX86XZlsq8dWE4gyf8mPlmVxfiu8FPh4n_StJAUC7UuQ6D4MPe63BSwNsCUBTgjHOnjoJH7FM3Uf-uJNLFKmO7SSDvUCFrU5R0fVq7oxPsE_NaNDFwCwVaN4km3KcjGVcpzPeAzVgZQcLkKqwJ4vyDVh33fAV_zTtwUOMxqqlTmM0XJC8JBYqzNYoSLUWi7xRUQZZk837iLvlI3UyTn7VPUcgvDFz3mpJ7I9xzm2RhIvjyH3mwjX7Qq_68MaTtJnjupkLr9rFjNlfoV7Wddh4jc_5NKjOfkNOaTpQu5MieqonHkGa_BjpqX80olGm0PMpqcCHTuR-hAk1_baEB8VciJDN57jhOjI1Fn5AHpHTzfyBITFaISvM-ZxcXLMbZBvc7sGxuh1sRE1cywjQs9QrN0lIS-x5eXUWZ6fT32g8t9Iva53gNy9VG5U4bX-uaodRKgNU1vDZzZi_eFstUy0K9WHpkcRuisSVXf6EvYoi6J9c5CuBwFy6tgPAzwMVMt45S8029zrM--qqEsAPU6QfI6DnE6vshiYwvBw49AimpPCOkt4dciNMdCmra2LOoi47rKTPzvxc27IVkRiZGbhqA0UU=w1040-h643-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QVrQYhfe2TysG-MOMJvzcBrO4vITDbIYmTbxyH3Y0lHg5fwGWPMA5E5usSMHETbZmKehD9jwlRjP6UfeQD6POqp_fC_NiJyPhIbZopKkW7RIMQYdkc5O-kVknN49i5SjxPFNW5hUe09KbcjjTHNQwMbtC2ty5_SD4ZyrHV_yvAv_zyB5gYD5KjQ7jItWiB_lEWWOX3DA_VtVFm9vldmuXtvvBqbl97vr8j4STWIBJHKbDoKHAsi29IG5o1VuLJAppKGUcIN8J5tjK4S7mdmfTg-UBCExWVjzQT9JkvofpegBN4GSerZhVWOJDv8_3PnFLXVYfwe2paxUE1Sae3XJTIimdpoMz_Aq3INyRvJLYKHYj7FceNNkZc0vqI3C9HAdLeHD0E681c4FGn8Lfc2-EV8CJtmcHp0JJKJpoJh3lT7R6sCnBhjtTsbdcH6klgnzhcuZdVzX68DdpWpcrn2VX63WuweAPikVjiWWPRvef1fVXUi9NBWg0UmLvxyekiSeWoN9IN2k3BxByc9CgTnfI00EbhcCvY_E9Le7whwTEeIfqpyALCx65C6I-zKedCH0phT5tXcjn1ps3LfdDpSduwMAkOWAjbH0jfA0WADYtKmSru7CAuiATtkMCaEX4N1gEdjbFcN05D24xz9M2lcGxwAhLdnV8crAavk1mpr0CKx0nOdoVW866kqFonSKolb5J5ry7CuOb4v_tL8A0zI=w1481-h767-no?.jpg)

I imagine the water wheel or turbine would be on the inside to protect it from the winter. The bottom rear of the building would be stone. Just like this local mill (in Mill Creek park)
https://youngstownlive.com/wp-content/uploads/Mill-Fall1-cropped.jpg
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Tom L on January 22, 2019, 06:59:52 PM
Interesting bell on the roof. Wonder what that was for?

Tom L.
Wellington CO
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 23, 2019, 05:59:33 AM
I have no idea about the bell.

I got this far today, still lots to do. I scrunched up the building a little bit to make the foot print smaller.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/giP9sKOnrH9TPViJ2uNeUQSMcS81V1VdRZTa4aSnNdWpekf9G7glpXGyFRvYjIKoE_L2f4GNzvu_V1u3Ln8LMem8xCvQpcVfRDu9iP8_wOl6tuHsITordGBqXu7iFHC1EyyX6W8RJxtnxP5ChsGBpkE8zDgMlv35QMdBtfaQEumJ1I2YIGQetJ1pzUW1H_tnKsN3qf0ZUFp6F1N-VWqfc2EK33hOqSBd5tgSxH6F6Mn_uOeTJVjtlIhV8PW01WHQlJFndnMZbAHRTEvXpEV2hgqlTan3S-qLncjM2QFEcRrm10bGCEniLWEAosH11VrXQrgN30wt73JJpEbt2LSPKCSANYqUUkgiVzQLG0M_m9Mu_RgasU6NwuUi41LkfRjWvtu4C0XzmcmqDEdRcqyjiO6lyzLvRimOomjsQM-KNrHpGtrt_rS0H2sHEBEgO35lVoCTlr33UWDKxcjI0mHQe89UHptegyxx4V5hK22X_Lho0nkwDM3FP2Gk8yJNlKS713SCfaekHMrL8TGHjmnUmc-aEVCcPBAAYxhdNRVZq3IfN_RBaI1u7xagiz-pvuLzls2AzmYXUud-C9uBy0Z_35j7qky7rkRKxhwCCjE5kgXTv2qdJK2GYt4PrJ79KO5xafUX5EZ1Pp6l_tYMcpEUcQ8_IJ0vKhqDxrTzTBXoAYLTVMFO6_MrKH1xcIqmmddQ3xG5Dno_e8NJ6XDkai0=w1297-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 23, 2019, 06:15:10 AM
One more thing. I see the old boiler sitting there and the left side of the building looks like it was patched up. Like they just replaced the boiler that would be under the large smoke stack. So what is a boiler doing inside a water powered mill? I mean it was right next to the water.

Edit:  Ha this mill says it had a boiler to power the mill when the water was low:
http://pinecreekgristmill.com/restoration_docs/Mill%20visit-1.pdf

Problem solved  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on January 23, 2019, 06:23:08 AM
I have no idea about the bell.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-CAL-SCALE-STD-BRACKET-BELL-ROPE-PULL-TYPE-BE-281-NEW/123606149948 ?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 23, 2019, 06:27:40 AM
Oh I have a few HO bells laying around, just have no idea why it was on the roof of the mill.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on January 23, 2019, 10:42:57 AM
Well, lots of industries of that era had steam whistles to announce beginning and end of shift and meal breaks. Since the boiler here was just for backup, perhaps the bell served a similar function?
Nice structure, great progress!
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 23, 2019, 03:12:36 PM
Now we need to decide color. The snow is white and the siding looks darker than that. The windows are probably white with painted trim.

I'm thinking white windows, a cream colored walls, and a light brown trim.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nuno81291 on January 23, 2019, 03:26:09 PM
That’s some pretty interesting and extreme weathering on the proto. Are you going to do that at all? It looks a lot like chipped paint over a natural patina to me. Looks like some new replaced pieces of siding look quite bright next to the second floor door. Watching with interest! :drool: :ashat:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: VonRyan on January 23, 2019, 09:11:27 PM
Well some layouts are in the corner and some are on a shelf. Some layouts are under other layouts. One layout just became a shelf for other layout parts. Some layouts get shipped out and end up flocked with grass  :P  The small one I tore the mine from will get tossed out after I pluck all the trees.

Once DKS gets his stuff out of my trailer, I'll drive out the to the Schmuck Layout Emporium and help you make some space. I assume ME rail is the accepted currency? The recent acquisition of another Toma coach kit has made me want to start modeling the Schull & Skibbereen, and improve upon the things I learned from my last layout.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 24, 2019, 03:42:33 AM
Got a little further:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Iv6LyNbvvPmLmi3-NzSH61ib8obl5jRvnS5RV1pmtC5dG-6dEveLasPCn3_gMWG4-E0WA9Zg2M8BAb4Y64laGJcu_dTLE5bDWQ2ZUfeJo8xPgxFtmKjHW-YRUt8cRRS28-wF10D_WFUv_k0D983OGsIJ3G7uC0trbXWjjkw-iD2OKGHszj5jm0A-0u9joNoNT11I_MLFfHfbEIkftfZXBznlCOzC7oNfmEYgopyizY5zpUufhuKJHHBu0ILnGgt-KxWsByB6EHVIFqEKe_AIRzFwlrSW8mbhPN9TZfue4nOaw9FawbmJgIfvXntJNFn-6fAfhZ6An7m2vpAosw7JH6o5BxrgLWXKjYA7kOqYm-kW5l8ls52acK3ZMBdkXG8S_ZdMJ1b3xIqyqqZKh9xc8hfKES3IZtvZx6Zf643_LbJQ6x8voFkd212yusBiDiTaB510sI2GbXuDffmIh914DNUBHGNGe5u18n5LQQUyt1vEk5rto6VEqpdaCVgixF2oediMdDpffHHCTQTixP5aJhA4g5ZQAyDl82HY2OQIcLvIWeQOTxbdp_AMdbp7hYBq5hxVO4wFt0LIQqAaB1Dfo-yPyKeehtZmB_-QbT6aLZ9x7cFYVmfvZB0v1TjDSwUOmDNlH47jGvHyLwScWokjPkpZJf3WAkcMr9xn0n07wmDKVkpx6ddZoSsO_qrNnpukEIorwOM10VOGl8B5udM=w1246-h939-no?.jpg)

Got to start messing around with the stone wall base.  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on January 24, 2019, 02:31:06 PM
@Chris333,

Your work is always impeccable and amazing.  The mill looks great so far!

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 24, 2019, 05:48:54 PM
Sprayed tan camo paint then an ink wash along with a brown wash. Just a base color will go with a tan/cream and red/brown trim like on the right.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KLrvFNAVAld4q4Q-XAJKnecFF2Q1GbQzkK0h7F3U2o6Tg9UgwpKr9hA-JmAO2J5iNpEWlMkOKDxFj17h80QrKSGSppcZlRLCQQjbpQrldQSwR5llRhnuDaJHZIb6GsYvNfWf0SFw5VociMFs7yu7nXaefTc83cVboJXomrOR20qg_WeQJb04YsyB8NRn2HY9xkG7grMcauTeW6JzQAvXOAhxxdGi8DNaLe4l_8Iige8iORGbdC2DQ3FyRrVh9kal_9ZlaI5myDXp9AhsD293TiYXzklSMDCL5uwwj5xOvMpkhFFq4tN0zLu8IG0UiLTb_eMsgZ-Bs4Z5cAbWAmOetS-nPIeOS_oJqcEyyWwBSCodr1nCZDJERNfc1cvAE_78n4w63fnBRLt7N4IwMhPw8GS9iGChaJYXZ9PDZSnMKg5HvOw37SsJBvpfVhbrqyd4usZq5wANYGWpH_IEQ5D978ViKjfUK-OBskiVFnwLaZiqTz47O7_8uNbA01CzPp2IL91mGqnS0IXnwn5quwldJBhVGbrngzOHcUSvNz_dNk4JRCo2niKport0Y0Leq9zxcOKQ4dCdKxnvGG66zu3yEXDa33Wty-zvx6eUZe25zsgq7yBTvfTma0cdpns722Kor6YI6y2t2EC_uU9L712Bg9paQmFz3fULZhUXpe6EBfsnfuqbiRvd3f8RdD2i2bJ_twNw7nHW3ZXzfdw7u7A=w1252-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/49CvuQrtXdTgPJ-L7blCbJ79bt4yYpmvuHtZ5GrxnPPZ8hv_8jKQaTpD9LpM_KmJIdUPmN8bijNibc_FVkGroIi11H9tsighSBL7X1JqBjHnl-jxXmCro8EK71j4ni-uwabfCTlOfYrrlCxeZvXfv8VDahrfchyqksHWu5eJLoD65L2Q36BoUcnM1ZZeu1t4SNawZR7KtyLoCCMBRMh8QPhrpEAmDRkUYBucIy6szu-anl8oVAzmAg_1qbcM9oA7kHeZKrRMuZMF9naS93KiJBEmpefjRd-QXO57rQC6bfvw4yHHnKgWgBWop-g4Z9HRMRmhxUYJpWDpvmU9KDQlDSBmF4Al55J6EITiGjkr81yvcThcSZ8VBvCgb1KVUX-jt0qRt5sQEdbKksIhFQkxdW2ci-YcIESc3a0Bj4HBZsA26ibhIQK9WLYnPraCd18IQdSDQZ-ZovblYSO_4Lb3w6ZY48RCTbEjRiSjnAhytGmTNw9B8dMdcTpFYfuyRpbJ_dgs2-OxqbldamVlAvIE8DHj9XJ_0OQOBEn_CssZhAmM5qxwsLvCsHnFS-rM82OOXPe9dR2VVTn5UPTR9yHbgLVxoyfaybCxLlywKVCi2K288-GYEI5_MqY3zTCFN7tZSZjDI7bVKlBIig-dSYZi1dlLtMUXXapD0QPj0wm7PxW7teQqNrqj_DXy2jzZaQ71trcUr8QcF19Yaw351FQ=w1059-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: central.vermont on January 24, 2019, 07:40:31 PM
Damn Chris that looks amazing!!  :o :o

Jon
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 25, 2019, 06:46:39 AM
Was so worried I wouldn't like the color  :|  , but I like it  :P
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hnumpv0bCXUiw87hWivFP1WN2Vfmrq3OXeWqtEp8pyAllMq2sHh-fJK4ClGTUhyy3wFmXLrXBNA2aSKT7PzidC2_yrXgZGTiy7G_x4-_jI4dNwVmKtRL3bNPpf-tpjf0JdvkVsyGW9Rns2zOLbzrHor2uBiZetuc9oEwblYFZvy-SMo5r56338w0kDB2CE1E2escYpM1bq31AX6jMX3qMwlMqtvYVDlOXZDnBEFtUuirXoWqD1lqp2A4JK7rwk653hmTVpVKcXQs-5Q7VS1AxaZIYpUBELc4iWpAmccieD8ECG6-xKHaRDot1nXzsefeDZmmSfFmW0cYQ9hwc7TzCJ7x_MSfHl6UnlpDv_SWo4n6WalvLv5nvyGJuZpI5hgsqCnq-O2rqS9xko5fHrGLrPzhqJmlfpFZucaxDydjnTS5LGkB3WMCq6um-84dssTT-aFKiX4t0sMWL0VE8ACzl4lj4JzunK1BH8yuhj9nsq9MHWqz4n_jT1que16a0wluMJg5XoiWEpzoe3tDp5TEDsFfb0RB09rb4TbLLi9vXsbgo8BHOSVM1xlpKcfDSHbyQ6TvZzyc2uNvlmCucvNXDdKoWfqg_C6ofofi1yr-mZwlRu27d-AJB4VZWZp_ETChab9Ofh3IYhpqoKVxWklOPCzxWwOqntyPnAZjFtFsAXd8KPQ5dgy3CtYldHm8FoZhfvRETjFOCTM3nVRWGE=w1299-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mHt4PRxDMfVqWOWwUGWfsDJSoSbMkXnh6rwtgKr2sNhkzwa-X9isZ5dqaVbfFUsbulzqzwYYAWLqTVvLMifYmJCSKGOb3RbmLvaLAP2SzRLzD0MmN2u9V9-VczXJmpZpvGlno_vG_HK_xWTqVEubPMjUKgKZOSNcsPe57JcFxnl2hcXVnCEWy1e_rDGTpx1HOcEDv1ICXaMEDinT4WC_pIpmYhipyf_R9UI1MOLFC4vaI6XR1UawxkN9kmXpiwfroVMZQhKu6xvxjJ3wJrQEkks4RM1yJvperLqfY96GMZlVr3hE1Mq6utI3VuJUtlK07fIgc3rjwAJRamtla7ZGjkXj-m0q7FURtTH--_rsCV3peEmkmWGzXlMidiGbHXcdgNg0OV065QjfBM6Cyg1DAcUnSd35sCOwz-Ax63GbpwTNkBWIrN5uBNGn1hehBm6rvV30P6VxxJx6AvbdXAK800o_kv9USVc2G3v8N0B1MbqF3BA2tCZ8SK_hCrW2RhqivNr96v4f2s5wV9tRuSkXRcO4cC0I75hjcoFmPEWfiQewG6nlmhd8KakT4mRmko3LioL4N9RaKHDDDaC8n88wnGqmxLSm1wgBvsYws1NxWD-VBvmQUgxCEPj-XjLM0Drk6HYepyERl62apvKUU_pyywg80GJDMZe_vAkO2BrGbxyn6KMph7mOTeuESOuyrtndXRk9D_MjkeggSN4xIfE=w1181-h940-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S_ELOKvwOWT72Ga2QtmDixgVyprOrcMwpcxufrc2gss3WfrJzLZAe_50iyYFvOQYbsVkasxg11syvi4gncFJBiI7Qh9PB0fOQCWn18r_PN_BxxzRKP_J7Fn6H_TRf3bEQ-yvhZKY1mm7dSISu84XVv31v8XcD8i69j3lN2dbx2Be9bj9kq81WtTflQ62SPhn7j6CJxTZrDtpfR8x193-tXrEGksYZPAd2_2oXqsSIy8BMYSizqKMd-k-kpTxhl-KwljWdCqLE-b7nekOWModSbZeuVm5qlVO_1_b8KbcjDBBnryj6hqwX7vgZvsmgGsDo08X4Oyfj7-Kw1NMCMbvy7-KlPNyhapbspjeEBOy3UKMhT6kodGRlBOgpFSpRJo0PELOrfKKPncaiQS7Yki2I7hRBlGdQtIi1yJZST_DJKwJh3ABXJ32b95QBWrxDS_wGoXX6qGt-AFUNKvC6_Rm3RlKVTVWkebTADMow1csUh8lNBvcp60u_NeQAKXXyGN8i7JWEwammhkJKuEaXAncZvt1L3I9Hm9YfmPr1d8mKXb3s8PipuIwy4XGMNYJIveZ4riCjS0K7CItfqloL0x-DZaF5nEV8ZSYvJUWjRHZcLYLufwnsXFto-n3DXYaHTL0ivTse_VUGxvFnQ2jyOqMICdZAaK8lsR1Pq4VWgnrwT64fEB7Ikqrv6nmbuLJgnpEKMnlS5weZyLmR1yuDY=w1246-h939-no?.jpg)
And I plan to set it on the layout with the same 3/4 view as the photo. So I didn't detail the back. I did slap some windows up on the other side though since there will be a dam/waterfall there I may look around the corner to sneak a peek.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fwUT8be1E-0PU6sBJp-No2aHRSSBY6iTQ2PsYuHX4K4I4wDpnCNgplI6asul08QbP52YlLvi2aIYXOWBeyPYMpq72witI9Yim1CxDb18IU2Vtgh_8vGPhkYcZtTUqX4cBanHeD9j_8bHtB3r9EzjKtsVZDwfCEB3R63fH0fbf_2H6K_2CCydJd0JBWCpT3E3W8cgdMwxKbVeph1hUxND-60506iukANQqsjCYjhkVWXaJBH3K8Wf7zBduJryyd4kqwBWboj3YWV777r2Z6gb6DMVFX_0G12R2Nu9cEl-mrgBN3tHHNHL4aaRSHtBWG8oONzghGbqp22ApTkZKZQf6k4HGjsdmbXfgWGa4dQBM5Liojd1LamB0vBru3oc6WPQt5kFq3GGjxk-MMdXRjXra3S0ENQMVmj6vR05nC4kdU7Sqs5J36RhmCNQ8cVg9asz5T4vrS_WCymceRzp7DvWTjY8OquVQ3z2Zd25HRNPohjCrp_fVgqCYfiXTVDgfLuK1wPMRITNgWsOYh89uQIwkUocwOiIBV772sxjC4jGmLFnYLdk7tLthBHbEs1--164HYGY9Cpz3RJZnz8JqC5lxE0mlXqmsTySc0jgipiGJLKBkwm8Rl7g3MEX0-bldvqWctqH3mokbKBtRugg8u72FSL0aDyAFVv-fCiIuzD6AsuNP6NBRG_g0vStWMlTByXWqIvoYMHi1QYfzGVWUVg=w800-h716-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/w8jOem514IMCJ8i2f4fv5cN-BNIcF0fzSk3F9tKLmC8upmm-x6dsmOxgvRZfQgPrQlhZgK2jYlH67npLpzjp6myQAeYKPwKCFnv_6DTRphlqJsFi4jWRTUGTgbtt9jj1Mjc1zhceFydwAUtwdqukPrkxTHfaG5Kn825euvb_oiqvqs1qWXwr9ZINAzS5B303LXbfsNOFTHq64DDsri8xogGgZw9uVLhgpibNfRvNTMDSBtKV3ypdbNyFSK7jAcwx6EAgMgUryGsJCR9bq7qbckoxpzt5_WYsAISrSOUX2kj83hw9jN8zhJvX0DqfIDDj-uSEUo24gJiUHRSLZqCgKu0-l0ft9h_5F8OJJ99k6w4_DBrz4VEadsI_U-1cuj6ZKsWgdLjNzU9w4aecCnSt7ougtHN3keEkBE-aJZnNnL7mmEse0qmxx-IEYhvSmWK9JMBXtw5Iq-4pewjnuUxx2hlfxzJKmiHdCI3TrouoADzzZzk1-bEJRkcadY_C6wsDH09fJZ1APwpuQZGIXW5TKBxPMv2hlj8wEBQd3nq1W7hRtxWA3taLx7PtWQfkL6VAbspHUDUCqaIgDbbiEetiWRFWIamTgLc5boh2FtnLER7PRs9I31cMzbDgsAC5GlkfOBZfRZMoRIoDi_poxw_0sOIe9zhhekU9DRR6_woulYzfh4GRBYPOD9AhMmlCgNvjQiuZ05WAVJ4WQXzVCdA=w800-h626-no?.jpg)

I may try to carve the stone wall out of balsa foam...

Oh and I 3D printed the 2 center doors just because I could.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on January 25, 2019, 08:16:47 AM
Hawt.  :drool:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on January 25, 2019, 08:35:30 AM
Wowsers.  So glad it's cold out or you'd be working on the VW instead of THIS.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on January 25, 2019, 01:05:37 PM
 Awesome work.  Like the color and the way you weathered it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on January 25, 2019, 04:39:09 PM
Love the structure and colors, and the nail details are a nice touch. Exquisite!

-Lucas
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 26, 2019, 07:37:44 AM
Well more searching found a 1905 map that shows the mill.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M-_YBTXsHZsS4Vbdf5W2Iw5EH_0jhkEG2LPWP9XeSuZd2tW1zsZxmgqDKow--jeY50GNc-IeuiVXu2CNZsUn2sf66h0emDeJ0LdqlUZN54PEjfHT5gfaY5lDZYxMRMb-bGNUFOQlcSdjOdsYWOPN6tzvguvGs3tnV-qVzfol1NeEsZTnyMesCcV0A5j8G4mJBj4GK-qzqlyCHuMQ1c0n2eBcQo8Ml5lDiVAQ_9cSQUMeFu7oBtweZZvIC003tQJt3S0TkMpceAIB2yR4wekTrKCDqo-QxVwqXIrCr8Tf1xZiIQhO-KoRCgGu5z0Q9cBsf0sYqOo7WBXN3TY2k6vzxe0j0FPerI63Tp651a00Dz3VurNGrabAlRJYJ1ZgJc4Te7_DtclA_s_TWZo4yMcktAT8avjdG_zsLFrEghmNzVrnAJ9QvpmPsEUL23GmJdBvx0dOUScO51afEjc1EFvVy7VUaYo_QAvQekBuHPOHS_r9fu-mvcpwvYs2AbruTuOc1-NrXdPVeBifGlseNQjt7bZsKr4_-WEFTrFtEOo_pcSVHGHYzKUPgDNN0ElWZDcC5I7_zuzIshQChs92MzrrR_HnfHlhPYHvT8LwdQy2OI2NS5lqES9SKRxb_jqt1XzDkcxhY_LaxLwkD2rneNENCGVyUHvdj5wLhyo7JgWJY75H6PI13tLjviiggaoU17vfsHKz7Cwnnqd_6AC5bXE=w1053-h791-no?.jpg)

The bad thing is that the railroad didn't reach it. The railroad ended at the quarry.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AsFUyGlCaSupyHZGnsmzWEeyH3lGkRqRGr-h-Mmq1_BMFVHnRCTJr_0n8ugETRX1kzIA6r8ezakDPhTUgYY6PnbosOfirGO0j_-WhKxJyIH_O34Y5kHMn6N4XqY_0QyedqAyASFm3ZQ0JSKWIrWfHX3pqvv5ph7ye4kGU2X_TAqB0E08toGaVd67JCmrWkovmZfknUORtI2s3GAL_Y0dYmzdLFlqrRLfgkASIQk5ZxoVbYzPHt04Q9MPoXfOEVHiRiZk_LJmn8Qr-VIypqNv4l_Ktph7gXc0FYQEpAl4IdeWDAqlY_QfuPHG16u1bgTjTr6LFBCfEnP2YeM3Op0xvIBPM14K-4fNqB4OGgTaJMT4DrHMiAvmciQMTTUEq8XZ0GidPFWDSL7rFYg9zHGST6bLWVr4Wa5Pm4Kr3dgIOmHM1PI1_tvzfrSCR1urPO_W79HUNeR2I2kp6rnXCl58xRpfhqQ1iNwf2NsazhbM5RaYBvWo8RuolYOY9cDhb4UbVf5bvU8kNUQQSZQEFtxKo-2Wu7oLAnq5K9Q3wvdXgOLvWwwo95S7CrqFPWsMIrPpCzVKGCWSPfugG97l7E2Hh8IbzqM33n-4xvcoTkqi6D9i6uEqNd3hzvvrS3WKpnRTmQdeUAB9odQAtxAJtRv1acw42OfIkZ5Cr6LoXsKsCt1MfPUWNF2Sdv3lLiAgT7nGPe_15ZqOdRGKJNJbKcg=w1506-h939-no?.jpg)
Yellow is the railroad
Red is the quarry
Green is the flour mill
Right next to the mill was (still is) a covered bridge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Mills_Covered_Bridge
The driveway to the right leads to a house that is where the mill was:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5336895,-80.9636624,3a,75y,232.89h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLF9zk6N1rKp3aHA-52hu4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

None of this is stopping me from laying a siding to the mill  :D  You can make out a curved dam on the creek.


EDIT: Turns out this branch to the quarry was 8.5 miles long and was removed in 1897. The line it branches off of was standard gauged in 1900.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 29, 2019, 04:42:10 AM
Doing some rock with with rubber rocks from Cripplebush, blending in with Sculptamold. Will look much better once painted.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/upM35aLVVvSWu55keh_PjQxy4CqpIypSTZ4odplAj_J724GuZunIegQ7f6OowYIq_nmwRIGzrjKV8C61onFbcYU3UQJtujQc_JEMPk3CpsPLDVlpUJ-OgONw2OjNUISjyNPCRFeskVuR-tWA0RgF5ZYuvlnaG3JOXd5aQwM0vGFTPYCVRooQk7Wb9uIjXQx2w1PzyQgBZR88XxuL9Um6VhiokHSQCOCEc5UGeZcrsI51eEmde85p1bLbUkQdKo8Yk2V94vwvX0P1xxnTIqm0K5_L1qw-qZ1vX4gpuapBo_E-392jc68rV3_65CJEHChRUG4oGY5VB2kEevuUmKIUJA0IAWdyuzXkB0WBkGBCr-Sbz3s55cA5xuZDBZE88NAbFHpDhi-CXXKZz7mqF06gdPU4BtOMl0Lmxb7d0LJfXtqDunu-8dEjAS5c7Jm-z23yVVuI5saNdYE3Jc2G5zYTCC7VhH1o52Y47iv-BDhwvZmqOK_QFOtIRAP79xoSa1Wvl9YgbQJh8AjW4SUY0IrnHX74Ao8Z8QY5snHA72lkLZ2ypoUW0QBw-rmlAnEV7SfUawgfznb83-2GrbR2fbJW99sjWUhfiy72DUOOIClK_lgkgt5E2DnTc92E1KfE-7G4jMEWQx98e-UB80spe1HTyEnMmxlzOCo38bf2QgmD6F2fmVodQnrfjqKNFU2mOztoo5-tAwURCduyjoNPdQk=w1524-h766-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DUvH0yUnA0Ky9nuiXZS5HqcxP879DDz7JY73-uw1jsxCRe_o33mmxybAgU4aHv8KN4jl6bVpFuqPMi55v0_0ZD7Kk-r-iVHTIQFUtM9Bh0JyBs1lllKi-RxFjuToABAKWZkeUJQqrEGGzjeL5KMQiftZNKEE-yq_Oclrqpk0gPTjo3p3gwFY4EvfVC9Ynr_MZ2b_JmXTBQTh0JzDmUq4ujr7VkH5BKaIqHIEljhR1zjDLBCxqXewrObWGa2uKCW5BtxZFVzO0IShY2ibOC6V5fvYhlWUtyQy0gWs0LPePKIyWxNcviGtYdXhJwZVDuMJZe6DqbJRL78V6hyE0ll0WckJczs7EHPog7Gl-yeu4x2r-nH-Vq_na4KPchNAs3Wpap8Loeg7UygnUuaaXtOFHa6YPTH0EYtIbU-AQmNgqaULCsOmJq52HSganEdMhXp5Kn6lN7pVl2xMPRSlgTXx4npnSfoN5bNm8UXsaoEWxqAJgkPypNbpMZv5i2lbG-PcUtjtNAT5phWWq3X9mI2EHBDnm3InZJOZwxWe2qlmwtCMloWnu1rnf5kL3_vNBdVUE5g2ifZfpDA3L10nyT7RWY1SuZWbOW0nxdkrBePprwW6OBugMPJC5Vx3yHhktg-uClxdGkTz6t3lEdLhuOZZ4db5JzD92oqefx9NL7GMb0UNBZt-I5fdjv0HsxN_hOV_lypfgZkfkxeTk15vXu0=w1524-h756-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qWf6DWMqIJXoEpDuJPcIpmL0Y7-n3pC1RxJaWy8yT0P8ueoN40TWZRC8n7Dyk7_ouBp_ZAlHFartHUiool1iM6b9N9Y6Ct5DEEUNu5nTyjmzwgTO680c0Hy5X-fiReUKZ_CwqF0YHPWQv7hDYU68Ye7ylq-zDBjCwAHJ9PwW1NPsg4LoBc8QrosUGQGg8g_tmCVTcLjVihzJTRO4ABmFj9YV1cJvJUs7a6_HNDAE8o4oqnptbTUptaPbiXTd0hh2uiHM28gY2tjKQeMyligP325whJJ7Kj3B33nPCbT43Ycl6YjBPrRKaHEsRe4MAla8NwHzwKVIHKtBxt_DE4-OAybK6HRQqfrSF66SN7DCF0kgZ850C1dPq2PV1Qj4i-S6EMjOXs5Ku_9q4tNq23lRFLLfjdCmuJnJSrixuVnEIjlsBXPOXuHNHGfSwi1-sb6GVOeYxSgpGbE4n-XrLFlEq_0_gq0lCllH0VOromwrfDG_t5ICOVAqkGSFpfNQ9z_huSynEncn4nQuMkHFP1mshyxdekN_zF_AoCzm4xQj8L5oHW0esMpCGX1G2ftnMmrkhNJFZ4SdBGSfqO-QE4E1Xrdf---L_Vp0Wt1K4annE9bdTaHKr3QPYSQG5nzs1suG9MV-eUMJkunrIZVNZ8bO_hHjIv6RwqxItPQKjS0I1iRMmqiuy_2kzVd_A7AEZil553wwfTu7nD1y6iqQJhw=w1524-h859-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SV5HHgwb_dNYrhfh7ZnsNY-ltPHjRwHP_4V35pUNgwc5K69cHplH3yx7kpoUbMfksJ2C5KnuXRXZNRFQGlXAvXAoUsAWXKP9epy51b7yNBU1sn-TvICJfgZ1YGZNcTENFBSvfYG2hiBgtMZgUwh7lPHe5zhur8-wCCm7dZ5lAWKTEajrHGObvHQ7SLoeYRKZ-s89b_Gel4YvIIfPDJAYqN1NEVlHtf6vRlqGMIL-lyOuSbzayk19BaJFZGsQMJ4r85qCdSksn89giAEiAGbJBkNIUIU7HhU02gucnUHl9vGZEbW_vqtQIGsfnNjmn4j77T-9NLuk1nbz3uXuQep7pfx9LhcLUICx0p07oSfqtdyNAaYMd0mKgJcQbBZ1onb2RPJGKJB8-ku38WDM-o6fGWxQFxTBsmuDL-Q8Bwwb5tn-Biv--xvKKogQKXSptEapSggb-0fs_rvj0ra3lUhcflt4y5Eowf6uIiA3i_A9sbcIbbV3fXecl2ulDOOtnlP2PTl5fWOHjdaRhSfVxNnjxbBrqBKKXyRw2PoHGEbGwUsc2lC2uKYtOP20P3lG2t4KINKtamVBhBO3SfhkP57mVxjNJQiAck40xHI7sCkwqxJGvM_L8rURn6o3ie33J3pBT2XlQ13FUccPTLeL9AFxH6OxHDoxniZQ6MbkdsZWLfY__zQzHGurmU11p7xsNp6QcmgaWRAFdvYxQN-zgb0=w1524-h859-no?.jpg)

In this corner the track will enter a rock canyon to blend into the backdrop without a tunnel.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/f8cfVO_sqhzyFffUkjQwlD33WpTkMXR-abTMUz8BOcdUOSH_2XRfqtZGfq9YXsiUX5Lc72ANFivCSbcF1f-8TMAGsxROuPLmqUuWSmSQK4_bsK9pH6E6xzb7HsbW-xbEHOePcTI2Hcmww1qYQropGytzGtzGof6LYP5IZwzk11iXFfubttiAVHrbXz0U3kTB61jUk8VTgvHzdV0nJf8oE86aXaUQEJs--oosA4skFUtmRJSKKpYfYS8K5sljd20-fF06bdrpPtjeHGJFW0kvQOjG0WRd77YfDzjZrWt3ycaG4riFj-a9lKSynXS17p8TlCYyN2WU4772JRHv-WDwtzpg-N7a8OH3xJdUHC77G7ahvnJd_USMvQwp17oHe9fw7D54u9fsMNq_RFh_Lh3yFijcNX3dn7IQJpdGyMfRBddpx95n7g7YZ-PrR6rLc5OgHy3LK7yTgGpFJgpI7lDe8n0Uo50oDwdTWaNJt0o3gpUG8DPtiySgIqERdK89OR_MMY2bw4ITk3VzgaYjeT6Rpqr3dJKbcV2EqyyZe2gmT68STMO5pkML580QhIDQuKjHVJW6aDUXH16c-zYdUcJZZmGPf1N8bcrztIFgTp1BskOj0AKzY0Y4mMxTc30uPRrZHnMb0r3Yy1caXlg6iwsOiBq4cOvkXeZ9aXIRZd7Ull4YhBOO07b-ViUfqVhM39CbhqH1mhJpxQUDWafoTew=w1524-h859-no?.jpg)

Right on the other side of the backdrop there will be an overpass behind the company store.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ssx7Dq7zUyZ-SkS5-O2K64AZ4gNk0q_VZIISfw0JuIxAyN4nrqH2TmiTqQSKjMWTsOa3eQlnqu_0AbEGomSSAop2efE1QdnNTNaMw6UmA4Oq6wEk-oEelSDvPYy2R7sJ4ocRBYhz37VErjz8h-Oj9dZlQUGS5tqKHTiVjzhwZ1hgZCWkyhF4RyvGoS4MXY-C6YEhwP5KhdqlVn_V-IMcqCJ27EZdX2k71y5LwEhymqHdz8iJpM3qQQ9oJ5F267-dBy1XPoUSjCVf5YisoG7PAOD0sE9-4-PfG55ktGs2Fr3FUAU7MDfJq0Afs2NA6kuagGLAYe4zvcUcoYpWARHIAweHQSwbO7UltwIvNHZcSkvT6sM78fEJ13t4Z0BjCXQsv1u71OpWPwSuJVcfciAy1uVhASiCJgmCGI2cfI2GDHjlqdtQzYJhp_IgA__41e6ISxjVB2tEt7Arz4eCjB_zkHAQ1YsnzkgL7afiec9jOX2Hy4OkNM_ok-nzzsuo1Chk4LCRgLh38SFM8r3Q8gGKMP1H6xE7XQHURW3TB_vFOzAL61hRnT-w7ptIPi4aXVaebVIECYTUXF85MhFU_TAbULLmAUgpXUJ7r1y_S2Gw8QK-vhfdfB6FbfcgJPU-IHwmSNgIMvGU9pWHtwaumYBFu97nua0j4TG3n-XHXfDX79flFequEALZC9MaUA-lB9aZ45YOtMeKhTuInHKaEvQ=w1290-h940-no?.jpg)

Oh and see that spur that runs off the layouts edge at the front left... that will be a little 1x2' shelf with the spur going to the flour mill. I knew there was a reason to make that turnout function  ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 30, 2019, 08:25:59 PM
I always blend my fascia into the scenery and run the rock castings right to the edge. Went to go get some 1/8" hardboard and it is -5 degrees out.

Ain't nobody got time for that!

3 days ago it was -1, next day it was 45, now it is -5. My gravel driveway is a sheet of ice.  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 31, 2019, 04:48:56 AM
If I hold the phone just right I can get just about the whole layout in. I got all the rocks blended in and painted. I took a spray can of Rustoleum tan camo to the paint desk and they matched it to make a quart. And I airbrushed the track "tie brown".
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/j1lN2G5NjZOZUO8u1hST6TQ3fJpLU9sz-DV5n6SsyF11HOR76anvDkdR5RPgMfMfsmEj7Nvjv85JE7VywYbyukCG_TaFlPGG_n3gjI066H7WCqvnKlHYnWElpUvHi6izvk_YkIM2reGGAnBQK7xIjJ4wI5UgC1lIFBVqSMAlmL3FkfNc23rtYhWOecLAPNmOkgTLb_zlo6JXbuuGaZXeV4dfi0DnvRoieu1hFmsljb2rnGHDXqzd00vumSYBprX6CRDGtM_aOaDzHZ-OhwkBZMDO32MJ2VYr4fe1RnOSNNvfkfLLKQXy0kUERGXXlAicx9zxo23RXdpky1Xrpab-OH2ldbtjqDCht3ANJaiSQbrUUSSCSBWAd03Va6aYvJRLw3KTg9jTqhGdU3djLtOTZh3kInJRGvZLdVvQ3zt_ZascPgTfQTxvdrLJVaPrLN3ikXMy5E2cHnPRkBkmOPgg68rEt8peU1P0SGzKqbavSS7g61fuTGdIm2cFLg1SSQdWArCMvP7bScO9MI_TNW-kPIPAb9IxtQmf89f_xJaDnyaG1wrOSg_3kekFmlQpB3vKDGJovtv6DkWVUmz_sBJPYVbfLpw8hXtoooXRcA1jrQ0Wrb8-7hTbPRSOl_rbZ2MsCZf81oVif51dvGogD4jYoQCcCsssjl4KvYtT_sPwbAk7NJSQmBtX4Sjd8PRqpZ2JnjAq-Bg4c_zulNZ7OXA=w675-h939-no?.jpg)
And the hole in the wall worked out. Enough light shows through that is doesn't create a dark spot.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C3noT0-Bvnyloo6C1_fBAiuU8P1R8My5-N0WbIPDCXbqk5Su6PGoF9k7DjQY_q2OmNsHHAKIDzPwP_H_tcr83Mys8M9AmUtSHzGut1po3NEqW9fvxGiFXNiIgu2L8nQYEgnMhPPO1U2UtDYL_rZzoPneGP1OeOvgJG7KUSqhfoRDjVEXvsVTxm3x0mx0cPvIodLmn_Wrz9-tIPD4-YkzUd5GIIGRDuDnQQgX1vkWXTfgh-_0V_WjuhIVr8S5hS34gQNypD9AuoNns4twnqKIHRII-OPiPdefUd5JxVyXGpKfiiHD1kbnyzIFPpZTbteg-JRAmWq-u7iwMKuRg_tCuXcQCGQkSkvYq14eYi6rXQBc4Ub0j4CDmTrHH8ZNwWTZfF7HX0dFWvOTCTeYjZY-PLAH8R-04TEgG5ba60qPORU1fBYyXLE449HtsrbLWM22f_tUdP8gboO4BHXO09kcHdWC5y3ORGytuPBlkJtAdXPqBcCMP0H1Iopvm65PfTtD_cV0TyooFocOk0I-Nc6EJfoYn_WT5dhhEpIwzsMFHaK2IUC2u-LsPge9h18C64vrj38XzJ53PgQ0Y_qfEj-328aRSr9TJYVGWamdoL6PdMVzEL5av6Fp77V3GIJugFqhmZg6xqItU9ePxCHwSXS4-scaTlebTXPGPEWGuhha95qR7Hc7hIxr_fx9OTcdKa_0v2fd6b5limAK3EnX3ew=w1253-h940-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Qw3rvPZlT75ofrA6FDWryl3QiIn9oFWJpz35vV7T50mH9DG4gYRQbPQ2WGUqPOVFF6EWq2t7DSkQdrew12NBQqUtWsP5q3yGqP-6UIpz6prbBWmsNUrMSJcL-OylAm0rdc1_VnXej5tCXNoxbaaJpFhlH6rsy8DA4kMmho5KTGtACdwYr_r9ESKrZFKld4NLkM_nshUTRTsJFoq3CQSEs2EMlc0VVTwPrFGqzMLX2cQcKIO0ZMi_sWxB4uZabpNNhQZ_A-WSZAOJs0j83KuBXhtyX__0lVVf8IYQL3GmILmdx4Rt-QpnP6wREaNGVxkWuBZYXbcyjze4aIM4HhIXz8lByN16h25LbdzUx0MaDxrCReG30vw5aVE1eEjsy0tGF6IsAtR7Ld38QZwGq2HqQZ--ia2MpL7amBopL2KKYdPF9Sof9X5Xv957L17lcxF5LcuVDWAIWUJvuits2CHDXwFdnH4bAV-SPkqXKvbug6oxRdNhIIQAycJKuMT4ikXgMbZ0_JQBBC6leg767Z_bGXQJLNl3ih6HFtp93l9svJ5FrNvLbtOqXtj1oiA1QE7rS59XccXrAE_48ILV1faI-dzjKMds0h4CHENunZC1iE-z7_noZxGU_pPgoHjV9uWK0nO4U9Jl_o5tuvpWYaUglrw4HcCvmsjaz8olYpdPvpskbnrODSDERTJbDA_c93ty6Bh_DJFyzZ2AlKtIw5o=w1187-h939-no?.jpg)
Not going to finish coloring the rocks till I get the fascias up and blended.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on January 31, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
...says the man who claims he doesn't like doing scenery...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 31, 2019, 06:19:39 PM
Ah, but wait till the trees!  :scared:  And scenicing all those vertical surfaces when I can't tip the layout on it's side.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eDXNnzhgseeeG110uiFQBvYeb6x_rOaUYUKF8Vas4k1yZmQ3-UQRHHL42PVKaz0cyL_kQ8xK4UUADp2tANIak3YezSWyhgNDdqwCMaveXTuylhuee1mSn3NIZ9kYAegRoAQuLt7Ea8p1f7zByPfFSiBxyQmcKU39cE-G_mljx720ikM46VcJIT-gtdF7e4FjxUAt4Hlxfm7_sNoHf6xEu0kXIDhh4VlkGtZ9vxV_BYNb4TRyULTbZGoS9nAgKdUtIPNOXG81CGwmoIW2AFqlma7xo57JAaHs4v4mthpmXeATTxPqoJX2BZzgcK-HPJHBfujMSQSY-fQ32t_ne8RCsEXjP5mSRfl85Gzkff4cGQfvbAnH13gARexV79EucT--93BdltgQgL8BJSCjaOyhGbsvuouLcDLKM9Jah2Bn0ah2Zg8-zspSWGNhCkIGV8MUI2pt66IZmbP6R_KAHskjogxRQJsdpMHh_rYb8-hJL6bYkwkIhgrj3AUqfWmN29FHdNTOWKvPKbD18qcduWQqy1hxp2F_ihlfB0M8F61Cg1NcIAFwmyKsWEsItYEGHtFn_d0lnyku0DUsEyD2c8iuaKSCnXtZf0v2VmjAW32Iphdt6mL-6Ym6NhXPq9lkrLvdH5HD6OPIWQrR7CKPhHsLIHvHxlEd4DwEIoq4tLBe1bEWvxy_K9zGnNCVkrJw2Dggnv7l-74zliSmBOkjJF4=w998-h739-no?.jpg)

Tried to go get hardboard. Actually found two 1x8 sheets in the garage, but they were stacked behind a bunch of 2x4's that were stacked behind the VW. Plus my hands were numb in seconds. Going to have to wait a few days.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on January 31, 2019, 06:53:32 PM
Tried to go get hardboard. Actually found two 1x8 sheets in the garage, but they were stacked behind a bunch of 2x4's that were stacked behind the VW. Plus my hands were numb in seconds. Going to have to wait a few days.

Not to mention that you'll probably want to allow the hardboard to acclimate for a few days once you bring it in out of the cold.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 01, 2019, 06:27:36 PM
Just for fun... the narrow gauge that was down the street in some places is called the first 36" gauge railroad in the United States, but looking it up the D&RGW beat them by a few months. This was one of their first locos and it is identical to the first D&RGW loco.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hCNQzg4b1KkYj9gCVsO72wOt9rBKD_udD2NgLYEKLtHOT4-WKNzGy68xYsFg9Oll58qQ2TM1he3scJd7yesaaBUzkg8RApMhmXjBTAQZ4LMCKccLNrmN8t_vuuxKWDL497zjF0jMIpz7-peuro-Z_-bAT99JALrVb-IVm92vYGXBPUaF9Ug-zqlwq3z4ZV7mLrZcgOZXHHq-Az5G2LX3hqth4aIxD8sH5loU2N6IfbaSjnQ-bzcdbs4GBlpWQpMPUfiFMAyNz8unTCdgh4NzCXzZ9SMsjIgfrIta4CfiL0eHXZsOxY_09DUeekTFdjuBFwaRJbcJnVvBcwsZ64WU_i0T7FNsVgzbSGqVu5mc_JYFlT7Hg9rTWkC7HxKiMQzS7T3k0_VYeEL6AJpn38jQJuHsXi-Kmm4EpAVe8FU-zP5c1tI_-nbnRtz8nSMtPHaOyf1XGIKjOmm8DehwfpI97EnqcuDS65WzbGP5eEe6WNg8LK-XLMVrTdnTyrU9jGqUUhr3zYpKHM4rJtpbnqEodVJox_SOeQYwXzywHs8y546XTHMQ9MWTevDHU562uox6UQ4-Wi66RGBKJbztvlJJyIKMRdxgJKk9tXF_SbQVIzBc-Cefjmfqhggxctq6xMwOqoQy9XVCsOueXu3IP5dsSbN5tkaKHhpjNfvhHA9J2E0JN7lAFbIwclWLgzAtNyQG5Y1XeNy6R_Ugno3z5S8=w800-h401-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 02, 2019, 04:37:25 AM
Got one side slapped up and Sculptamolded in.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SLgkrxpPqV5ITUeivI2FfojQTajScKlSYSWD5gdfNudOeL747kptywtA7PtFHkdIu35KmUcI2Qb-8jO2DPPYCrdnlarPsbnFVoKtPJMS1WlDxOlwsqHASfwlpsIGmua3uuqlPUy6ReokkY8GrMTGRX7ie0GB0eNdc8v7TtOFNd1VmeLO8Tzc9RvdfFXFaFMLVN_ol5i1ZOUZ9SX5jGObQ19VpqERzvAu-p4K94UIxk29RVpsIjzKYPjxPm_PZOLwuz8VefCaD0SjORAb_Nxfx17a0mUv1cCX8DrFJYykT3st5fVrdeMNX48QsO_2G1P8KS2CvwmuQw5sHHLXkyouqncJ4e-gTfZfrtExoO71YG0lK4Nr-OfykOjsoiT7v8Bgk4iREfrFPUl4UbYOpJANToJXclYi8dq2AmeRFbwEDVHbgkrTOwenQvV_m5usAwlA0o8f-PrcHjjmZLqRZFeFZsujJPTei6_aIDWcl8q7YWgbQCrof7EyeXqOU8NOCu6ViH4HDHlQfZsZTMuqunoAT5jqLW5XJo-WAOhTcDQk5GApLeaSorkd1Mxd12SBaE3k5mDiy7qdruwNsKerrqpovgmCEVI6r4zr_g7CD8Z4TizmJasH7nTEZ8I6ooVHLka8EooGv7KG1wdxKvB5vvpgeFNU8-HMvlsMy4DIZPycHB-EsEFyeLJ9m0X8glaS0GFOz7XICxj52E4mcjFkgGo=w1600-h891-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EjPViVzGKG63X7oy3Idbm-Pug21AVW2i8fCgdPhuKmHh06OltEOcc4nMRQkhRjeBhA2SrCoKT_d8EWQpVuX8UUelUhiXn7TpoqF3d6Q0nxBGwWFLh7PhIMHUm6m07RtTSsxYVQ1tMD-9j9nNbehGTB8FQ4gM0EXqP6NCYqggEvGmTZo1NBQ927HL8uVH_P4yn-QOBHnXSCAcehOWFrQfhuO548TIhCqWINhsgcXP1tO9KbqzDwoQgB9XeYDjBlPhtEFSU8GwL-sVo4AEM1AKrjIdvtndqNJ67pxj4hhLShMYk_0DI5TFH6Q11laZHjSBT4dDP-WDoqgzygLoBd8k8AevBu3UzidIdU6FGkWBMMN-IedtWzHi3l6dGJO2DcHabrSl7bIp_r5b89uuipq1dg526tVXX0jMn0ImHRMAGhSu-AeqUXoMvS_Jt5EeMwbec2Vh1Zz7hkiNe6xoYjyf7JR53r7uSBU9kIAGVEcA6u8YtLkRHKmXdZ3jH3aLal8mX5MAZ8fE1aa4pnhnLpaSTl9SKQLwGxHMkHGQVG-ZF0PlMqpMfwIDh8xrhRKr9ksW6hPCbeYFFA5jhWBKMV3BZw4sZDC-paIfHuXn4HBH_H9bDXGJHEzFkDnuS24Q9olWho-Hah7ASbO7u1DrGvxAc0Na6hK5P_PmibyubkfrnbcvddoAnLUf7_man5mCqw_J0GjHtOFp13c209HnLvk=w790-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 06, 2019, 04:28:03 AM
State of my Union.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kgD7CenBPVyZnSr_AhK64SBT9s0cm2NvCGbIGRQ3IRWZ5lT_jFahvJ7M9FEmykXprZINg2D2qPbp3xS6KMOui-EOX_BSptzd879VroLfto4OsHhgu1CuR3_sAgLfC8gcgOT36WzEMaWDNXolNkaqH9B5wOfo_Hklda3DpLYx3dnzUiOAO_CvZQ4T1riQbwDyZg68UukmaBbUmAv0ut7EuJL4gymhWnp4t_wOUSPn8pinM_eZ5pS6LudFP-NywFKLJIclmc-YzUZnTuOKF464_LXZuWzT9Xb-osJpiAJaJXbwrpsxG4DhHSFxxnp94t1qBQRMeDx15p95sCtPhT8Yi6WyZGFCp1Vn2H-Le3FMJD9K87zLew8CzMAzRmgMCyW8U-l5nZcgCaoWsTeWhAfJCAwGZ6dElp2dv5avQZjxwYWBtfg6y3z9hfX28mnpC-jGGNYrAi3TKmVUhzYp3CUN8dXqnK-NWXuxnkr-vrASNM2WA4gtpwYp3K7KjlcsK7Cpe-zLlBvpkSty8xR-LxWkvx3DnpTJBK-3feZ76FEFfRAttDFBeqf6YsCWQRuSKqcTw1rNBA2uiogNahFlQgEclBDZ1yUwB4m-Z9vD7U_flPZDMbAbdEw-YFf7SCN9_ekKFt_nt6prgjRvL5fWgrvp39iCg_tGFf8ZIhKAiNEpBxq5wLKLUEHZQctd6j1vZHiWeV5SAZyfq1DGM26DV38uCrQukg=w1600-h908-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8_pirb777YpQRMdP8Vg59EN98WyPRJKI4Sme5bFgEbBNvG_isqCM6RWgZpTJJ1t2qI6k85WGlpq-hAiFJZoluKXN7ZgpmKWvHOsuE6mx2RvJBMBMGbrctRVPlOl-0jhHksjNaEv3GRHfrpjIcMR5gOG_fdv2tC871I_oe5qdXH-XEmJFO72nXF3Gs0S4cHZ01z_CI_6W7T6Iz383aKm0On1ld36lpsG1tgGa5Qf4p-DZMGDIGgZnp5QYA9D3LtawXj3s1BI7bEGOlSRIb_zLvJQrd023KHjDb9eX2PJhtkfip90Q8hRQCUeyAmpZBiX_tDjRc3QZwhB9tMoteYq3fQPhJsmamk0a6COYVa6a63PkZ8CRaBfa9bdSF0r2WiwU7PjSX4EALAo7UZ3HRGHJWXzUkn7qNH0oZygDr5vXrwHRlJL8daR9MqlyeijLrRMEiXgocEZhxyWV_EWwbiZYGKXY2QGsEmgpRKu2zP96BS4ND2QAeGu6JWQsn4H9vmxf33DRBLi6BBlsmyXv0hrZSlNBVsJVW9XYnbfFqgu7jroP0zHcLOdH_iZ1NDDRqSuz72LGG38i4Ri-7bvceXyWz671ZhjHjFqUGDaRJkVWgT9KHqbS91PBq1xObvki4aIaWfzBXqLsjOdL63y4LaZAokdGZtM02fkiKDgwvkw8EHCwCNbWxJMbZDefTHoP1lA3U7srRbgspemtMOubgO4YZHjFDA=w1600-h900-no?.jpg)

Glued the bents in place  :scared:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8acZag8ecAXzCP4g9M2wyVzzu8viTquJqNnVm0ORJScoJ0f6_k_BYUV-T96HNthmaFI-satjWyb7mkIgPG7AkkaqkajCkbKngGkX88m2cjrFPtUHgnYRxA8vYA7KXpRwUzubDlZb5evCdVysIm1h0LPeb8-lNsD7LGzhyzmB1HLUnhe4Xn2ISZP7JXd_2N7NUfRIuZouVjdO-Avh9wD5jKGQ3hRrK15Lp-cvBwuB6FMp1eFtLHqY_AYj6oaAqVTMFdozE5Wi2s2339tYK3chckIuIIGf30aD0uxDCaUskRua20AiCjzecxNQgweg_p5i0wpko7EYjfQ8hO83mIsAJkjIWCSSLjp8RiLlieZRXeu7CpWNmIg7sNF2LsNNXPrUw88CIZrpnRk2i4U4hnkVZX7cy-Z7Z3D1_gcZZDb-phlfa3h7od4nZJ585Z6KyGlVCRiK3cicHJ9MUAtE5d0aFtFNYG68qaC5a8LQRVG55QYk8N2WluI5HJG9xj12RmmvxjJzjnZECK4oRwARWLuv8FWgzbCGfe7uY9qGqeCdrrxn8O9AMOkShfOlytss0RriKNUNBKdCh41kpTXXdxJr8yaJGwfWEgNcVujJPC0UmQFekGWUledZAMhxO0btZVsPFGMDmrcB5oo0qxqm7HHPzRPhaCDL2s_3PznhiI1wshz3FILfUmvblCHLh57W8LofEjkiekz6M_M9jYYrxyQUsGgWgw=w1600-h939-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UdghcD18F7Gpg4TgiWxFqMqlOrGQlSBxrKGoHEoEiXYcqp8EQVdDe740JWtr_OYKescSsre-k3PN4VTNCpvUJqqIvyCPPtfDl8a0Tc7zHHyJXRGBTS8HWIwA1VHTTGgYbskRRuhqmcu_QzrH-hHN_0cWZ-O0yQmrepOuJgZKR7Pk4aOM-OIZvcqepJAwtdVBOkramlyvPAnfutGvqcH7q461z-2NtoBElm7CBa7wO6n5ilrQo4UZoY--bwG55b8YRbP1Irmv80AFr0GmbrRYcN5TzFsJOzC6bDaxfxpBE9GLIXTyl-1kcCHk2eXKtsaSGKy_AmVdJv-OJLEfka56h0z7iCpRh8FJSIWMpfHacv1cCstCJXsG7rirNDH7yeT_T-kfPRR7c0-BvShBFLGk0lCi8mtc-PrdIYABcx1dQHYYh078hwPA0hZTcr_eaD-xhtH8qBbl65KEnY2binCgfj2pYwLzRoGiQM9fiR3POgArPEl6IDZ6MPR1acP01yQOeSjkMPoUDA9qsh9TiYlWiYHXImHDZVkoIhdI_L-74AbmG4LkiSfYMhX8tZW-g3a-68knA9qnv6N7BHIPNy4NevUOpPvXHm3kavqFBlusCHDoJXtUw8Uuo50mR4OT-tEDFFFcJrAsccMa9En0I8jMLqA-EA1bjJgiAn64GDBIfrAmJpPRJZC10buI1Frtk_vVnft-UJVBQTxkUMh09LZms-70OQ=w1600-h632-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xnuG9pwgnrTLySSf83G4kiPFlY4nXl2tm5wEsUd1Tv0JYI0J697Mdt5faGwQ86z4R2evKaNzYntwSb1GbKmWA7nPK7A_7te2YR3w0L93t4eaKkxK2kBcHuhvMCwQgalEpAlfQF7qIPWZQpeACKEfltBlh-7MwEcRRVuT3sFLPG-eXsfiHsAE_n7Rir5XKxf7Cx0iCF3LuSLck5L5UGei2C0tuqmzePyKcUFTCtTvUbVf9_cPgX26MNmVXQWecBrp9OSARF98SEDzWymn1ncarMiquVLT7IgMgkUwm9lod3tS0SryY72MuO5kcEIUODyG-bwyvIEPKek-5tJZjMBVoJ6lEYmHzyeKvNqTlhR_bfrybV1R-JjZlzt3BXXWILogNUDcfHpKNjUlBQK4pi34vJZD9J3zqbfMe2iA1yFOmRtRSuuuWNodAVsem_tw1DSx3jX1fWy0NkrN2fEQyWWXgOKdEIPSN3JrVyxV1lyBJm6Pyrm0xBTke8i5QVxvPdM7i6IY6__A3ZrUHHqzTLVp8s22_kuMsvCqE5E5RcoUCvlQqsHB-rnoGoZCecAzVL2kFIBoD7GC7siW7Su3GwEjIewhSmanwRwrJbomCQ-xNQRt_bGA9iSiTdSVjHGuVW7NxKKnGdVNe3a0pRsNJVLWlGgGdVXj0XiGTfbvucueuFLBRUa9CIYAa32oKl52xqajgyKLAGgq9_r2OXns80dHjoK5QA=w1600-h779-no?.jpg)

And the flour mill will probably go here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Esv-v3X7Pj3IPu4dZNJH3B5amqZYD3TJXJGpsirXyPE3ojhxnYOGxQuGG3eHcHBpkpYX0kkqQWfnf5bDvFobVrWR35-1B6rh8150b7SNrU9iycyp7NkT_EQvQuvjFgWd76GtG1-s3psLCj8aWZf1N1D9XyBMGkzi20XlCFAXZkgewqnXxVkfSd8zPpzIm8hAFbBVdaBKu5bYLnxtqfw_z3CPNlOjYmjMyr2n0DtXB3GwQEHL7j_xceR9HnTIU5yeLL_qHDMrH6CjvcLRlyaS1e6C74bmBqGMDy22kooiAD6mkSjSudcG0TmNLnVuiHHcq8yD4zwVBKe99zjj1da93MQL9wTaTYFfpCwodFm67qiyGMKJbSpywComvULsNqNb5tr2iYBjUK04iAkFyVLLibYMXebgSZ8ncmUggu0CPgwT3BWVotfajWkz8sNqtO2tBKMp1gnbn2rCZPqlK-2kpQL5OJ4q5nTnfkGFqkkgKgmpo39X-tUqdFjmFJcrN9Fg9ATWRVpUXjxdF2wjEGkBqWwvvU-b3EUtElMAqbTMHPoiMPR8R2DcpEHeINNOvP4QS2YZSOcBgBKeTqHPQBisM6CNu5QFy4a_Rmmu924QdpVEB3aNbjHyOLxL6veDIi_smWeieK9XKY3YmhxSsk7Gp08bmDrPQBYDVorGVncAV7ReLbClo8pQbL9OGoFbnaKrJIETo72Rb1K_S8qK8EZNi1aXUQ=w1600-h718-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on February 08, 2019, 07:44:20 PM
This is some beautiful work.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 09, 2019, 07:13:17 PM
More playing with the mill area. I wanted to put a small quarry in here, but well it just don't fit. The background buildings are from Bar Mills and I guess they could be some sort of lumber related industry.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1PSZz4FlqnxwA7w5JiJJYqR8qHkDx_ITH207BbbhFb001PLPuL52i67hSBUVynTbA06MWRBl4looej7dzE5iKxEHR0QjFZJTEa9D1zgd9NM59f5qxPQj2MTQx9qfU797ExhQBtuVxazy7V5rBIBCSkfdKPvgEpKnWR5ARZ_6_2eMG8RFdYU_s4I1730J2TSC34rdoc5ED9mwoJYsoUW1EiNc3EWyb3kw04h8FnWT8WBHVpfGYbuPmg9BL33nXQ3brYRF66-yIE5RT7q-fz9GHOsvqFnzwLy2k5MMICpHSg012-2zxBA34JYCdQRyjTjPaBoVd6pvyyGiDcGatlWUg46A16CHjkLl8f18LKEuzGLwM3STp-kmX-4DdMGic3pQSAYKtFcgubBgO0j7ZiG0jYz8Uh0amfRv795cjJux2kjL_9y6Eqom2lWbm7eX2KAIzyRct4Vv6E7Eg1dbjzNN0hX897X10HbHRy8xyIchiZdyjPKvtzMgyl3oBGNb_OSaK-PS4l_zK83YNoh_alPVbU8fsns8hT2wyg-B_LviQ59EIs89TQxD_sjTkxO-0lfdjWcoGTD4WGE9TDP44U78sb_vs6E8gmOEta2J9JBgjstBOBsmzwdFSQNCsqrbZJAXASZ2pddzkWFsUsqyRI1-vcT-fRIk3yKR8bTRK8eI8BlbIRNztfibWh01e3VPQRwwx54L-JrX7rpMdlsYC251ceom1Q=w1600-h624-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Santa Fe Guy on February 10, 2019, 06:07:33 PM
Really nice work Chris333.
Particularity like the treatment on the trees.
Rod.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 13, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
Refinement + addition

I was playing around with chopping the back corner off of the background buildings and I started moving the mill around. Turns out I could slide it forward a few inches and turn the siding into a branch line and a siding. Just add a turnout. More than likely the flour mill wouldn't have rail service, but it will on this layout. And with the new branch line behind it I can go to the quarry  :lol:

So behind the mill will be a small A-frame bridge over the creek. The line will sort of disappear behind some trees and come out at the quarry area.

Quarry. This is only about 10" wide and about 24" long.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4IGLdBj8qJHl7QCeRYvmeXsJN-WLFKVmDCB5z8ufYtfZqEbgH4dY6yZBmiIaWRddjEXfhQjeqjX1YvEVquiL_-Tcu7ou37OeBKRjHnnZ1CqrVFLNF7ydt02nXFPruggKvm1oKzXk5xqzaQj2wf1JV3f0RwZnwDTnSC9rMPH64fE7HX9Fw_U8V2DN2zjuc7W2Rb3cbAAKX7L8brzw4DgDSdK7OACbDngCHyGG-50Q6HvK25_DVVoYPj_z0UVuImy_lReOOQtmWc83OPIM6EH8U0M0JNhvziuaN8blN52XwJbEo2MnYDrGUndF98i8WJvz48weYPrvgk16KoBI3wb4_i2TRWW9O4hckXAynZwGGQ4wmwGdelleB3vcW1qADvvZVDCvt6-hkvwCBFiqZIr6HDSwI1LXcwB3aK0OpZk2-freCASSW5HKk8SdE5nSG9YU9Kc8f7BLWaqSrFkvWVmWkpJfDDE8JjlT-YMeVJ0gHjG_4yKmI4iqXUSs6Mzik94eiwCW999PMph865H1iGtQX6h44M6RzadmiXjjzjzYGkHGRzjrAK3JvutAKudR9TIVbustAHhmGeFHq3DlfixsDR3wOVnLv_v9yQrIXGJM-YMW8PBsloiL0cXlijjYjHlB4Zy5MhtzqoIZwyujqOqK8RYuWOJVSbBAETaqvaQc05TMMunPLGTJbcnSEHZJhwEtHXk5r9HKEtAA6l7ivj1QsL73IA=w1600-h734-no?.jpg)
Around the bend is the mill:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yMU5XLua3g4TPxxRCNoP9KhNUqnqvBANMTqMHOPe0rT5NK6Hq3Mzq6vByklvsmR9niixtD4OTvJZs4wOrtL-vjjA4TdgWVMvjs101mbtJBhAtIeKz1LgaXI_QAROIde76XpEcLdZLpBuSlUFngc044kxQFg0JNPpoZ-VWdiyLla9nsRwoz7cbkjHRRzASAU7_VWfM6tPwraNP_FB1R9sajqAoW7WyKDTS9W2BCmDTVVLjkQ6bggkB6UEM4W4VjJZ9VsJdJXydkmWl_dSgc0eTWbR9O8xqptedMPqt1diAcwZP0lwD99bf8z8fnOm9pfSxyQd54ySpIO_rrwTdsrTqBzvmlyLBypzKjwYQSk5wN1WAI59_s0_8GZQgqrjkoAeJjuuxcjEeVZqqz-Q-GHU3bbP_U2J-6h6cYzbgViBOpck1_CdOT7bHrwhpQ3-mM8Nx8NrerTI0LXBMKdxEZhuOEMY0K60Q8qMnZuarmyvH5VBkjmzQlbfCtEcx-8cEo0OnRJ0KJMJNOlBgHbiSALk3Qj8XEmJQJB54uDTG9iXy_Mi6fjn0bLHX4w2ArhPLrJ1a2cMNu6Ls184qJhL7SeR5EUbHGJCsRAKaXF7g1eIjcZwOWe9EfaDBnOJixlOz_41uSN8rAxGU5akuu9loTCpi6lSITIPQvCtk-jithsNX9LyjGzDVTo7szCbOOmz7NAurdyYMfwd9XAlZECAau1cRI4HgA=w1600-h837-no?.jpg)

Behind the mill. Man I'm glad I modeled this wall  :P Still have to install the tall stone foundation for the mill.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MRBjNAguWSdiDaYYOjqLIm7xmQZqUJ4K2aLg6gDLLHq--3nzvA8mwEGLessP1B-MUyblVtYUL10a77ZfdLC5yM08Bg_fgvJRRp-eCOiqzB2nsO4sG_Yc5h3xFX2BlEPxPSTeckKB5HzpFzMb-12wcwPxNMcBrCduwuK-yVqvTTX4OP9AI6AIiwsUd4ngaZm-KOMdzAwFeni2Tp--eaS3WY6mXaYM6s9FcWenZ6fZLQgVGiiNVx4SzQzlkAjzAEoZrEXVcxP04KBKN3gTn8-RzLafmaSBxer7jWWp2OHDmPKBdKDcSWxz-I6fdDuNKhYjR1AU9TWcMY7izNyNW7YPPBMq71apd20vcptiW6AfYOGtPBUZPoKxCsFkS328CwQqtwIOClbLSjOM1GQapiXkJleeC3GWBia57lNDW1dR3htBro9YMWeLkJYpFmEgteiFZCl0qTOnFEuWg5WgUXpPQwTABGAVRV7UcT5fgQa7LAoCFTqqvkybqwcCg5bQC8pQpKfP9xGmYLmz0fYOii8bcpfgL2ZvZ7E7mMpNJpkl1jy4jIqfZXG_jkgKcPJF8Z299gk1XMQW5pKRYQ3y1nUMxQoZSiqNFveSOOYM2t71CpmfyieG9JWc57OFY6H6fX0GRopWyl9FbQNwk-tBeJxiE1AJ4m1WuM-GUQ-VGpJGm3IKIuxT4Zz_wHmy-j5Segbkdf3RFgstigkOoNDrD0dOCCAfLQ=w1366-h940-no?.jpg)

And overhead of the small town.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1TaVhEGK2OyBqdTsR-iv7I8F_EZWYKiOecT2-gug05GW78uO9tgrqxJgus_Imtir5JIYAlB3yFNO84W7FwP4byJo50sWylZ4Aa9QnW_aqaFoB7gT6t22IXmY3PnSStFMWKz1YvcUwVRKtfXam4bvwUPBs1SbC9oNtx1XQ3SVst331v5YMqRpl7dG-dAagmhZY89zuqxuYS-11BQ3LZ6-ruciWvkwli-GOpWpHof3PqlKeCYqv-D740BwSY5COzGNmIGyR0iTNYBR9RoxMcwkOi2WIO4AFgoqjDw8i3Ai0xc6zsbQHnvACk_LkOfg52CfvsY-pY40EApECBbXZ4mX9iLi6aJ1SlMKfY1rJigyPqtZegQZS45cbmR5p9sGWMJLM3HjWWzZ9Zc3T25rVKki-7a2RaVvv-iKSdt_NsoRbecqQYT2cSI1porGYv0fV1fYrNRonr67-IFavQyKMvtqFUd2bpSDdx4zW5M2CRlbmY2xh1LKtciBECopQnJn_HJhTXWu91CSlkYlmVEIuhoOOZkIqYWWhzsTunjrXmtB4HV3AOlmhIi2E2ab1ko8JkZCmtJ0TvTBVc5vGELtYhWtnx9it6G4kOph6yHGpoX5STM7iQqXpMeELWYKnsrwy8d84zZZ8XEM819lXGWiubEZYRBzJfqtfQhJwtRI3hI3YmQv94rDopef8HUxrflDljfs5uvcR8S6zW0AxHpyFfMLMLjsPQ=w1600-h900-no?.jpg)

I took a panoramic shot here, but they always look distorted.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 15, 2019, 05:32:47 AM
Mill foundation. It's just the Chooch sheet cut up and glued to basswood. I started making look like all the other "rock" on the layout, but the local mill's foundation is almost black (must be sandstone?). So I used a charcoal color and then wiped with spackle. I tried using flour, but it didn't work right. After the mortar I dry brushed more black on it. Shot it with a ink wash to tone down the bright white.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ytknJ0MPYoEYGw32FT6XKfOa2mxeY55op2hqFIKNNYBfTGCfsy30CtP_wFRr_yGdfNdil1BIxRAQp8FR_qxfXj1phjW2_Hvn-NaLR0sE113sM5EkUgls4PNnr12I2cVgrsNP8fWRd4Pan7Jwoz2crFUID6rUcoCDk9hWLwPM4rm2zavNK1jrfjysTEdD108qtxohyTQFQXBxnXUtrLM-HaCDh6FdVUZ7SkdikZVIyvqvrtaBH2y3ZpBSpn1wwhwzxqLtehEF6YX8Bxrj_oRDMQSaWtimWAwaPUL9Dzxl6qfHh2jsaXEun8oXFvMffvDnhs0kmFFRZixuq1IGP0SaQhFGNPhbF17Pan4pnPKIaCpG4FuEeX5jwl6jArgMjhfvQJNfbRExPfAU1rYThRVuHVc0jOvxF4RblZncp_kTVKB-Vu5vBEDHNRlfLG5wVDJ7EGWT8BU1ZLAcQPPQ42JW5NGTc_-VYlbbMTauBICkxxtv0o1VjGk3wcN6cRCqeAXeLPGoYlF1Vrz2Sj1hG1fx57sB-vo-GqChZ8jIm6ooK-fFGE6Z39seVdnRfLCNQr23bxw5HaYBXwjvUmbcLvOyzE-fcVf3ri-seK_KWJ8rC-rGIoIaVTQ18ID08ml6-jXTKhxI-5eW2rOuiRXBbdnOC4Mopv0VH_wapr__POgr1WHGrCOK2-ePKk9MY991mi2ZwxujmcZgtN-u8pcFu4QERO8U6Q=w1600-h900-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qWmg_SdnxqNK3Haw7j7jVbIvDSRaemIS1SMuvCj-C3biChcDqxA3N-WptreDTQTMg6AH9g3oE_y1q6AFA88GzpPD-9go2oK8hSZHPyykTEkgI5xodn8HjgA2MoAWsc8vxVIJPIZ-u6E_Jm0NMB9WUKVSR4FXKxHwar_3_4nqqgVyrmItKsDCce2BGh8BwzM1EhcoYsa68aAN6LaeSJWV9P63lXgy3Kf6kb3Q1KTPG6GYthyMo4vHZ9v_fAbHbWF1PDdME30Ko2XutpHjr59cOnM26fkZ6sIankkPmVP2ircLG8udKy5higu4hOfdKEkc2fcqGoBcWTLFQ9A07iQZPK9bntI_4IqfziNg_Hk4dV2VnpQT8FDfbvU-aJSdaqsU3eXO4RzlmImhvKSd6YnBJPbsrLqFRFBLBk1k65I_HM1lujKdZhXimhnVk8UkILsV08dQrqgLswOhUaRS9W5BVoZW57nL2FwRu_TE3nkANyNvlddvCXd6eBQQa5UkeFja8p3YbKRp4Q2IoVbT9hkZl25vdUY7KlKbJ1n0sx6NeQIz25tiD1Z1zlasSKShILmtyTeKaKcv6-m7-mDuPDYUx3_NFkMaR5X5XKjA5UjnkGyfUuYDXpzJ3T4xNjg1IsnfNwILGccMPlcImzfvYJ2C5x9IKDc9wV5dh2QEFUkAEi93CWxQNBl8-ZxQnccXQiOudDBZKYl6EgZGaKN-zb_NP9Y6xA=w1600-h900-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8d4yU_RZg9W5jKbkKttH9vc00Dr5OAaCyrE_62B5seLByBJhFN68uCEGEt1MxWYuRganpM37r1JIRgHvTcSSXF45MLth2XOyvD3f-O1UFe62FNUpiGyA9Bni5DR9ERHC4fwuzCgRGIsXQs9IPQjsuLxrvm4XVKblaAU34FzO-xDluOiHGARByfN2kEtFz6Fz5tZiOJjvVqerHqjwQTopie6-gVVOdnj4Pt1ZG4qmQBNUyRGIfoHqrPA78zuo5SPtl07rZ106B-SM3Y5mT4AO50D1YHS8gvbZ6W6YFjzUMngcbUR_KTY-iKE6NeqNDbW0vXha7S70xdYpV7EGNOQJa-_bVXgH0FtSYJp2iRPbYA9SFu2Su-vPZwRSpQN8slEwvTP0w3m70BKrxWz8RpwhVx7po8YIgTIKBuZ8HhdVMDrNOTC8APiGVVy3DwOG7_rKqaBXn3X0rIL8qjkWXB7egpCT_DMi9Zmm5qVBhq9s26u8QoTS0c7U9FhtX_BvXYeF3fmuG6nuVeVT0zXIuITefx4nVRj6PBrQcA7Y8KiCM9JPgOeanm3C88_Htlm827Iar54OXN5bgR-7mABvBqOdJHPReLVZ4BMKqz6bgWsNvCGpnpy61HdxPpKIzR74qDMUkubLzEWdozpepvkN5oJ_z3XlnPbol713onPJoj2w6s3alvIdECXp5hdf7DB7tot7EA-joVzYezAA2nJ-BvIGg33d2A=w1437-h938-no?.jpg)

Luckily Google has a photo sphere on the deck of the mill right at the water fall.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0666984,-80.6820919,3a,76.8y,321.24h,96.78t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNxmJHNg2jwXn5iL_cqXJNOr3nMtxEuAAE9kMbs!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNxmJHNg2jwXn5iL_cqXJNOr3nMtxEuAAE9kMbs%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya273.1772-ro0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 16, 2019, 01:00:24 AM
Foundation (and the building) look great, but I thought that sandstone would be light beige, not black.  It is basically compacted sand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandstone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandstone)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 16, 2019, 01:11:27 AM
From your link  ;)
Quote
Like uncemented sand, sandstone may be any color due to impurities within the minerals, but the most common colors are tan, brown, yellow, red, grey, pink, white, and black.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on February 16, 2019, 01:39:38 AM
From your link  ;)


Can confirm. 
Very large retired Sandstone quarry just Southeast of me here in SW Washington. 
Lots of black stone in it, but was mostly light tannish gray when in full production.
I don't know the history of the quarry but getting to the darker stione may have spelled its demise if it wasn't desirable.
I do know that one of the larger local quarries struck a spring, thus flooding the pit.
It's purported that there is a bunch of equipment that remains under water as there wasn't time to remove it.
The flooded pit is now a public pool.  Very cold and very, very dark water do its extreme depth.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 16, 2019, 06:20:11 AM
So I didn't know it was sandstone, but as it turns out I took these photos in the basement of the mill a couple years back.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/L15osyMWwdPJlof3P3M_kBYlPP-fJZGdwUprdcfeKPWBj7GUqVf6rk73DkQqGSvXtj1t4z_F3UkgRzOAb4u_MBO6-5tRYohIq-81vytg7IMNiWB6qMfT-Ha3bjrOwJaGOG1Cbakp7N4zp0PQcvaBuo_dNelyxp91n9M2xBsuaI4vUGQ-FEjhAa8pa0AR2mP5i6ZNuXO-LJepRWfD_gCO97RHBngg1ixtlkODECMHkAf-hOTK_8zBB6Hj2b0DFC1tkHeuvYm6bNiakYqhvvhuwtLvzOSVjQj6HnCs-k1SsyAnR1dYX1yIPyWipzcBPWc2u3W7JBj2j0lyySPspcNkGIPUDJEF2x3ARB4800SnqeU_0jhyZPt3b-8eO0XSKenDOXiaG5v9JHdavxAU4WDkLCGl0_HEJiYqsAzsoMMhCBAucYA1gFLd9-clyUlM-qJS3ylIKMBWp0El1tHcvAJU_O3D0M5rF3s9AWP7BnGpA3_C1bjlNeNCzaGEmNf1VX98vCuMLFt893IRX-dRUnJx5W3w-RvQ-mc5u9aeKaYTbCeqjG34XbEY0jGlVMX33uxmrJsYnYfw0ik8Camhk5vxQsPlypESmZECjteXtLzf845varU3vWoCKMiMewpMCh64mufCNvaFhxfa9GqxILJKsJNRJCLnvPlxCfvkF7E4Nt8Fw86qW3Ii_ZqjoSQASQEyEq1H4Pc47C71iLdJtL5w2ml8ZA=w1250-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pixBA3m5MyrCDEsNp7OIjCYuMIUpncXPhs9dD4Ladp81WtSqwiul4sL7m2HajSWfQI3Qr_-PLvnzBYCHApZcXtsQMqYB8d9tMy63t_MHnyvSHvtwYg492e7eokgu3f4AxyQokfPA91ZWKeI6o9Pm7tLZuTKyVwTUj4bxSsiYqsJCmbsq3qJy0duRp1miNpmsiW7PN0Et-i5W-L9fM2Z51u2Z1qsm_PPCjauL4v6iC9PVElJsv2jF4BcMt4dSFBsdfhCb6ErOYlRqceeKq-kBlS6VQJU_8L14pqpqLxa-wPzFgh2JlleXYfH1FUKHY54tM3RUFEAPcwR2IeeeyWYh_bJqley-V6aOTfaYi2AUoMK9dr1At5p9TmyvTTvGuFBk_1thAO9rxrqoCoDV31IOMykXfwYsWR0xxpZ8B6VNIvPmPHuPUqKn_4dndU_Ao5WKXev7Vj7hIm9BwWP9lH-Q9RzS-fa7BAVCqWjtOR4QUHVVxF8TAAhNIuNt3R8FFBwufDzYkTEY3wPySzKIYKkYcWj7vnFvn93o40A-BfHOE2SgnJ9B8IhWOqd6ukotBBQQM8F4vQzpcpY4Uw-C8g5JVz9rZe-ZXQYzBrd0siEH40XALan5-TqI4pJ92DgNcp86WOSPxlmVFp4SFgLhgQyV2RjYrjkRV3e2Q68fpIqgYZS-ygczbtmUXxIhS93zr6fNj_ASmLkc_3mFSzGmf1P5Tw-owg=w1250-h938-no?.jpg)
As you can see inside the walls are a tan color so perhaps the black is natural weathering. But I did tan it up a little bit and added some green moss and lichen along the bottom.  :)

I even have video of the water wheel running in the basement. This isn't my video, but found it on Youtube. The background wall behind the water wheel is the same exact wall shown outside in the photo sphere I posted above.
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And photos of the inside here:
http://oldmills.scificincinnati.com/ohio_mills_mahoning_lantermans_waterwheel_page_2011.html

Anyways just didn't want anyone thinking I was smoking crack because I painted the blocks black.  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 16, 2019, 08:55:00 AM
Anyways just didn't want anyone thinking I was smoking crack because I painted the blocks black.  :P

As if anyone would...!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on February 16, 2019, 10:37:08 AM
Pretty sure the porosity of sandstone in conjunction with mold and mildew and soot and grime over time will likely turn very dark, especially near water and lack of sunlight.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on February 16, 2019, 10:53:25 AM
Pretty sure the porosity of sandstone in conjunction with mold and mildew and soot and grime over time will likely turn very dark, especially near water and lack of sunlight.


Boom!  ^This.  Beat me to it, @Lemosteam.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 16, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
Ah, so unlike the nice beige sandstone building in the Wikipedia article, this foundation has not been sandblasted  every few decades.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 17, 2019, 06:06:30 AM

Can confirm. 
Very large retired Sandstone quarry just Southeast of me here in SW Washington. 
Lots of black stone in it, but was mostly light tannish gray when in full production.
I don't know the history of the quarry but getting to the darker stione may have spelled its demise if it wasn't desirable.
I do know that one of the larger local quarries struck a spring, thus flooding the pit.
It's purported that there is a bunch of equipment that remains under water as there wasn't time to remove it.
The flooded pit is now a public pool.  Very cold and very, very dark water do its extreme depth.

Tenino?

I was just searching and found it, they said it is a public pool now.
https://teninostonecarvers.com/about-tenino-sandstone/

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8544766,-122.8531164,3a,75y,103.32h,94.93t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOFkyo8Nq4f9_0o9Zk1rqTEdOZMehjnXkZdAkgX!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOFkyo8Nq4f9_0o9Zk1rqTEdOZMehjnXkZdAkgX%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya14.910119-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120!5m1!1e4
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on February 17, 2019, 12:46:53 PM
Tenino?


Bingo.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 18, 2019, 03:10:05 AM
That Tenino quarry turned out to be a good find. They even have a Facebook page  :facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/teninoquarrypool/

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I took this shot of Tenino and reversed it:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_c1NbhecD_eHbBhj1UFS0tLucxtfYJoolV14KpeVE8ci_Q9LxGSOw8TsHKwd4hcpJagVwEKo2yjFFYLzWBvWR1Qigjplwa_dfkqnRqNYDaLQdgQ2BChD5sLfOVAcshTSfPNm63OGvJQPyjUshfifTXSli-YkeEKSaOk3Hr5g-RoYRJMyYbPVFHMQN4yZJRsnHCkdnufys2qvvIMrZbO7xi9fa8sJ1Pf3GBgnzfc-_qzqJwM2KMtawji-ovW_8VcG-D_c9Axlx9Op8Pv0HURIVfoigbCwFHUX2-Cd_2eJ9Pm2Tfo13iM8bLoSdOQ6M6PZSg0k0wSy32TG-DOs0rDqkW43JTclp8lSo7pigMHBOuopPQeGt5czWEXy2kGd_Y9LZJsxYRNATyCERqNcTWzyPmV56vzzK_MNe2PROKMyULGnv5tiMrh_Z7jbkASU5zjCPH-4mPE2E5mSq7J2UePdg6RxTO9NRCdmJhl6JoGXaBZ1I-dX-dcbApq81smwns5rNgznfzJ0Z7Nk67_cmXK27AcFKigSecVaaDzJKF9p5Ga5ux23uLN3VMdO5HUjJrZoEiy6rdQzOd0WJNr2faSoQTXtdGiRvfLTZTXpRCxWY-9cnn_ThRFlVGasCstnWXOJr5vyUbvLWXVwUy0QiaXddMr18Rq06AmNFTjRGExwn3U0NJ4XFu8YoPNnOBtXzoEcrT1tq377QN1lPjSmBLHjB8IEbA=w1261-h938-no?.jpg)

Looking at the staircase I guess the rock face steps are about 4' deep. So I bought some 1/2" foam and did this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eC0Y8ZaWxjvnA_50rqssPk-XQoZqwSBusYF0EbrRXZ4hBv5WM3GOPzkI6uvPcFgFaFWcTjuHqiAfAEljoS1Zti_-pcWean24eunBda_DIjpKd8p93JS8_JtUZDblsxil7TBqIphqnSeXtPKNgnkdm4thabLRiuI7cL4vP1Gh_FcvTpGmlRxO-h94QCa7Z2_H9C8nRwC1X0qMS6mTqxpmvKIuDvUalzpOV8NFjJHS5Mk0CUnxZYifqWcJAXD4SgFCYkz0c6eO7qhGXcjsaz9nbr-kR_IyxDbehJ7uDYDwliTeJrM4KuQyikvzxj8giFfOUD6XWFZsOBSRLMdDbiqfD4KXJBTlhsmTtyI3xXOqCNpExm90uZUv63rAAceeVi6iQVHewxElxtz9dskyAPJlrDnXuJwLtjEBfPs62P7RNbqUySEn45zs5hY3PBU_MRUMx8JEcRpdOEdyD_06maPCkGpDMlSpxQu5DnxcadKi9ZFWj-bH-lXn53PRYmUGdgHCCRPFUNRctZ24-uLVn5M3CYvIhcJKJX75-NhYAoJ9ngN5sJFXNcdtG-z-hrlEzsNLUeeav13KSRNME58IQkw4qnFnbViAQ9I-N7yGYwsQ2H60L2dcI5E0A5aUt2v_JWHF_rQGJpUBaF3i_pfLfdUo94BmVnIfK-sZY9xakOTiQHaXTMOBB3AiDqoUEjsfBTdqckQW8f75OZvD-q93HOtr1gqRSA=w1600-h708-no?.jpg)

I lightly scored the edges vertically to look like drill holes. I brushed on some wood guess to sort of seal the surfaces and fill and small pin holes in the foam. And I painted it tan to see better, I'll take a pic when the paint dries. Might hit it with some fine texture paint too.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 18, 2019, 05:11:47 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_c1NbhecD_eHbBhj1UFS0tLucxtfYJoolV14KpeVE8ci_Q9LxGSOw8TsHKwd4hcpJagVwEKo2yjFFYLzWBvWR1Qigjplwa_dfkqnRqNYDaLQdgQ2BChD5sLfOVAcshTSfPNm63OGvJQPyjUshfifTXSli-YkeEKSaOk3Hr5g-RoYRJMyYbPVFHMQN4yZJRsnHCkdnufys2qvvIMrZbO7xi9fa8sJ1Pf3GBgnzfc-_qzqJwM2KMtawji-ovW_8VcG-D_c9Axlx9Op8Pv0HURIVfoigbCwFHUX2-Cd_2eJ9Pm2Tfo13iM8bLoSdOQ6M6PZSg0k0wSy32TG-DOs0rDqkW43JTclp8lSo7pigMHBOuopPQeGt5czWEXy2kGd_Y9LZJsxYRNATyCERqNcTWzyPmV56vzzK_MNe2PROKMyULGnv5tiMrh_Z7jbkASU5zjCPH-4mPE2E5mSq7J2UePdg6RxTO9NRCdmJhl6JoGXaBZ1I-dX-dcbApq81smwns5rNgznfzJ0Z7Nk67_cmXK27AcFKigSecVaaDzJKF9p5Ga5ux23uLN3VMdO5HUjJrZoEiy6rdQzOd0WJNr2faSoQTXtdGiRvfLTZTXpRCxWY-9cnn_ThRFlVGasCstnWXOJr5vyUbvLWXVwUy0QiaXddMr18Rq06AmNFTjRGExwn3U0NJ4XFu8YoPNnOBtXzoEcrT1tq377QN1lPjSmBLHjB8IEbA=w1261-h938-no?.jpg)

The background of trees looks painted in this image!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 19, 2019, 11:25:31 PM
After gluing the stack together and painting it tan just to see what I had. I saw some very small pin holes in the foam. So gave it a coat of Mod Podge to hopefully smooth it out a little.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ftvigpwC6U4UsFDhWk-JMYXV7xhKw4yGkXHjP0aeww9LTFYMimb6xL0dH_UEUQF2IhlcNYRmkirtJbfQbWJ6_XXqPHDYS4geDOpqiJYHz38PCu1ZojZUvtABDh_D_74e2AKHLErChSsuIiDQZwsqmayBl28gDBGwqde_cgBloIYAUhL9SZ88nNKeF2zZlHirdTpMQL1HDGO54yZK1v9wSYvqFalQRChrFqLYKjrZM8iU0Ikak23W9YxpHlYfWZtnFsJlwR2w50bdmnlsa5I447T3bVbXWBCGML5iIVKUKEB70ZZX9zHiSb9_aZohmCENbH2WMG9E160V4lHgIEQKC0iIAExbHbZiWl2HP9WXqu0WnQhr5KhdOfW7GBdYeTexs1goEULucwWjI7AjiVObf9uNaW75t3buvlai3vR4J2BBKu-MVeV_q80xXYrEbJQaClYvmg04rgose3fJGfSAvSIaHgy_ow8vux0KskpFIf15TE__x1smyYEr5VDs-zZe3ELmoXZGIlCO_3ghlAD27WG6Afwohi2NgxKuYTvM9MFMPekql5aFlOQF4E6AyYvwCSRXiA9iqI51t0UdImAX8wd-Hd6q9JNAYJYhL6fy6Ti6YmBdYUgY1CLVWHEvRm9MMgb_IVdrfN5w4y3bLDMTTxfY3ROjE7dumm_WOvt7OoR746bCepEsx57XvU8KKaMbIaOm310OwCJ6fLvVMzhaOW8USA=w1537-h938-no?.jpg)

And I started mocking up what I want here using parts from a Walther Midstate Marble kit.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/x2S5c6ElSbgGa482736QU3ZWd6wWXYTaObPnPtohdozfAo5Z7FDGooOWc2OWhRjvHwKF-9Ouz-52ozW-XqZtS9qtHcxyHlmYTZUsT8e8bGrhMhwgiRBj7ypm0nkiiFpdE1E7Q6FirgN1Jy6mbgE3qWnOy0QG8eg_dpXCXN4sKI-X4W9SpSKlz9lPtVStyZvdrooF8QMa1t10EggZURdtMmk3pQiX54hcn96BmoGk9j_GKgjgUIGoByQLv1h5ZjIAVkBiUUb1Nt_2MLVzvvviHRnRGMrUjFbDYZ3OPbRkFI4jWuspqIVeYI9iTHyuNtfPYWgJYPH-D3wjNUcVOLgr2GH1CDpvZXai8cXp9fffCuY_pjO7dRnfocEEAcx2g08EwnSX2U1uvttrc8yZSVth-04780yH_1F97H-2-ytL_jtOg51y_KXHxzkLhSIcWqz9iJHQCZRCmNEGYacgqtY6dT0jIcfJYOYu57U4C4MQwv-XvLNc1YSqEdAasetgtFm9QwX4wGubevp9TwCRP8mCM3YUmyWeFUuvHGPD17MRJoIneueZgiNM5vTR6axHrlvv8oGPKrZkmo357vODQYwzIuDM2QboqlZ-7U8n_lW1_i9tErUEO6EQyX3tkT0yi6F8_Phz5jMDq7t8s6N1bLeZwGOa2l6iJbhVwMfqZ-8nZwH7f7h7bMCjP-utrRmZtA9I8ubjp45cL0VZfuzsAk2yy_Q50Q=w1600-h864-no?.jpg)

And this is what it looks like in relation to the flour mill area:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SUUSVfzjkUC_WlC6ld47GOP4huA2R8oox5pleeN7nj5-o7iOVWoN5j5UqFycbb_UouR8-TeB1PKG28r_4vMECGjAwu296D-8MJ3HAbhMVKEw1FOkeEZr2eh-2IPyPYlJ7Y5dna3hD8wPdC4GZFKVS6DDlN884Wy5rgSjCmaW88ccaHylMqAT9xr4ggAOCUJ_Q91cD_Z4uiCa2LR8V3ml-9OoQ_Ne2h_BJIhhchgKpECTnSmoYs390PPZ6BYj40Id9qG3V3SVpxlHxOmtAGHI7vlLA2FkLUjmFrvFjM0D5KZj7Jw2BRHGuj42I90Fa65d6009bZ9QsNMxTk2hN5D0y4D5dF_sunjO1Y95Cw5Lhj9rom6NLiPfdu2LlfgKlLGkFUuUvK9yQ9wxDYND-SQj2ixe9T2Ip1lBKru0VoV09sHjkBB7UPXvng8wl4aS0xhwnhLlIzXhuVgXRM6b848beq3TV6gmxh9Q2N0Zncxjuhfk7bR_RpSqxcr2qWARTfTDRpyrUlDjoY6Zn2SO8ReW9hZmV1CtucRjvBfAaZ7MrOZEwoiJxZntdmbqDmakxlfaGSDV32J383Qe0P6jH5yrNqINvPX2BT1czCP0OlbpjAkqPetDWCywpyqM9ipHVlVMHPnEwzFu9JHzrAO4y5KdBZAaHspzRhjIWCykpmoq5wNcN-Vby7L5kn_f33ZzGDp1PUED8huyvm_purQ92U5rNLR1zg=w1600-h555-no?.jpg)

I really wasn't gonna build the quarry right now and instead finish some of the main layout. But to color to rock face at the flour mill I needed to blend the edge into the fascia. Was about to cut that and was wondering how the scene would flow into the quarry area. So yeah I built it up.  :)


Oh and I ordered some slate shingles for the mill.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on February 19, 2019, 11:37:45 PM
Looks really good Chris.  You're nailing the look of the quarry if you've patterned it after Tenino.
You'd better make sure they've installed some good pumps with that river nearby.   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 20, 2019, 12:04:52 AM
Looks really good Chris.  You're nailing the look of the quarry if you've patterned it after Tenino.
You'd better make sure they've installed some good pumps with that river nearby.   :D

Just need a diving board  ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on February 20, 2019, 12:25:30 AM
Chris, if you keep adding on, before long your going to run out of operator space.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 20, 2019, 07:48:58 PM
So I need a ton of stone blocks to model this scene. These would be perfect if they were the right size:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Miniature-white-Stone-Blocks-O-HO-scale-diorama-model-1-43-1-35-wargame-wall/162045459467?hash=item25baa97c0b:g:v2YAAOxy9dVTlahV:rk:1:pf:0

So to get them the right size guess I need to make them myself. How were those blocks in the e-bay link made? Notice they have a nice random stone surface to them.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 20, 2019, 11:02:00 PM
This might work. I made these out of balsa foam. I was searching how to seal it and many said just use spray paint. It isn't really foam so teh paint doesn't attack it. But it will take a while to paint them all  :scared:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rWcCe4nQ-IGeEPCivb0Jrp-s5uGd02O1VoWJx-P6uwMxXvFXjZd_BIhdurTpKmV8VXkpk3SVRC6194poivS58rqjPfRoAl4W38TD0YOLUu3-pF4S6-LgshTT39Z-zjLYnvitmlV_jTFErR4tme6Ayz2hQ-C5dlvbnEiTLBqH38K4U1tbKn3KOfuf7jgrSH3h4UdxssmOUUdfOgoahSnyMGpLjjV8KpH3ngHb1PhrPT6Ymgnjk3vR6D_x66sd6kGzhmMZu2ZDOtMjOdVxhsTSPUkNGaE0PF3H2Lm2t2aSxh35M7Baf-CO08XO-L2Ozm3LoPkHblpqGM5cz2ohF9zpKFvWLNsRiEWvnfVbAgh_dp3MuyoIsYw0D0JJoYvgPOCqeeazXtyoNOsU5oGYiJVqIduJ1xm57_o515MhydMsfcqeTF4qd8adKy3NObA9m6NuWu-1WjBcEvWf608fko2hpQnJdC4udHYUXlTgM7xfL9rM9j6Ghfy8tOSgPV6ZI9SfYUH_DvqGmBla2EjCCPTNUxGZMxUR5i8E1RHzDJRYUV1VCcvw_GG6yNWcX4hucH7SF0DOsNxBg2L_fwCnPyIvrT-K0-YV50xctk_xB36QurzbizmEIT5eOmOguG80oJITWxKlZ98oosSlg_4ZeN6mH5jPiaRGAE45BIXrSnP18q38FJNoD4eIIc1X2FA-ztU2VSaO3rsnu547qlPEXjDwbudc7Q=w1600-h923-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on February 20, 2019, 11:18:56 PM
 Cut stone backslash might work if you could find some small enough. I used some a long time ago for a natural retaining wall on our large scale layout.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MSI-Rustique-Interlocking-8-in-x-18-in-x-10mm-Slate-Mesh-Mounted-Mosaic-Wall-Tile-10-sq-ft-case-RUSTIQUE-3DIL/205077856?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CAll-Products%7CAll%7CAll%7CPLA|71700000014585962|58700001236285396|92700010802552373&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAiAkrTjBRAoEiwAXpf9CQGcbrncksUJ4tko4F6HeM1mls19--x4knGhy914_qmPBHAA7B1sSRoC8CkQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 21, 2019, 01:09:32 AM
I don't know, those stone blocks look like something someone made from putty, molding it with their fingers.  :)  Shouldn't stone blocs have flat faces and crisp corners?  Couldn't you use the same foam you used to make the stone walls of the quarry?  Just slice it into blocks using a sharp blade and some sort of a jig to make straight cuts.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 21, 2019, 02:10:43 AM
Yeah the edges rounded off just from handling them. I did emboss all 6 sizes of each block with a real piece of rock.

Now I wonder if I can make them out of clay and bake to harden them. I could slice the clay (I think) and emboss them the same with out the edges crumbling away.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 21, 2019, 06:21:50 AM
Yeah the edges rounded off just from handling them. I did emboss all 6 sizes of each block with a real piece of rock.

Now I wonder if I can make them out of clay and bake to harden them. I could slice the clay (I think) and emboss them the same with out the edges crumbling away.

I would imagine  that in H0 scale those cut blocks would either be smooth or have tooling marks (not just rock texture).  I still think that if you sliced them form the same material you sued for the quarry  walls, they would look better.   :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on February 21, 2019, 08:56:31 AM
This might work. I made these out of balsa foam. I was searching how to seal it and many said just use spray paint. It isn't really foam so teh paint doesn't attack it. But it will take a while to paint them all  :scared:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rWcCe4nQ-IGeEPCivb0Jrp-s5uGd02O1VoWJx-P6uwMxXvFXjZd_BIhdurTpKmV8VXkpk3SVRC6194poivS58rqjPfRoAl4W38TD0YOLUu3-pF4S6-LgshTT39Z-zjLYnvitmlV_jTFErR4tme6Ayz2hQ-C5dlvbnEiTLBqH38K4U1tbKn3KOfuf7jgrSH3h4UdxssmOUUdfOgoahSnyMGpLjjV8KpH3ngHb1PhrPT6Ymgnjk3vR6D_x66sd6kGzhmMZu2ZDOtMjOdVxhsTSPUkNGaE0PF3H2Lm2t2aSxh35M7Baf-CO08XO-L2Ozm3LoPkHblpqGM5cz2ohF9zpKFvWLNsRiEWvnfVbAgh_dp3MuyoIsYw0D0JJoYvgPOCqeeazXtyoNOsU5oGYiJVqIduJ1xm57_o515MhydMsfcqeTF4qd8adKy3NObA9m6NuWu-1WjBcEvWf608fko2hpQnJdC4udHYUXlTgM7xfL9rM9j6Ghfy8tOSgPV6ZI9SfYUH_DvqGmBla2EjCCPTNUxGZMxUR5i8E1RHzDJRYUV1VCcvw_GG6yNWcX4hucH7SF0DOsNxBg2L_fwCnPyIvrT-K0-YV50xctk_xB36QurzbizmEIT5eOmOguG80oJITWxKlZ98oosSlg_4ZeN6mH5jPiaRGAE45BIXrSnP18q38FJNoD4eIIc1X2FA-ztU2VSaO3rsnu547qlPEXjDwbudc7Q=w1600-h923-no?.jpg)

I'm so glad that you modeled the pile of detritus dumped into the large pile in the pit.  For some reason, it's one detail that stood out to me in the proto photo.  I'm for the suggestion to model the slabs from the same material that you used for the pit, i.e., foam.  What can I say?  Foam depot needs some new foam friends.

Oh, and go easy on the embossing of stone texture.  Those slabs would be as smooth as the pit walls.  Just add the remnants of the drill marks, perhaps.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 21, 2019, 09:30:51 AM
I'm for the suggestion to model the slabs from the same material that you used for the pit, i.e., foam.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on February 21, 2019, 01:36:54 PM
Wait, what about tile like @coosvalley used for his canal walls?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 21, 2019, 01:38:11 PM
Wait, what about tile like @coosvalley used for his canal walls?

Too thin, and the edges are too rough.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on February 21, 2019, 01:54:27 PM
What about balsa wood from Hobby Lobby?  They have a set full of random sizes and thicknesses up to the size of your big slabs.  You can cut and sand it to have decently clean edges...  It's cheap too, so if you mess it up it's no biggie.  Should be easy to seal for painting too.

Just a thought.

Oh, and I think this is my current favorite layout build thread.  Per usual, LOL.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 21, 2019, 01:58:33 PM
Honestly, Chris should have loads of scrap foam sheet left over from which to make an endless supply of stone blocks. Slice 'em up, add a couple of coats of paint, and they'll be ready to use. Also, the model scene as it stands is a just tad too neat--look at the reference photo: add a liberal amount of blocks, scraps, and debris to the scene. (Disregard if that was the plan.)

Oh, and I think this is my current favorite layout build thread.  Per usual, LOL.

Ditto.

 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 21, 2019, 05:43:58 PM
Honestly, Chris should have loads of scrap foam sheet left over from which to make an endless supply of stone blocks. Slice 'em up, add a couple of coats of paint, and they'll be ready to use.

Hey, even our own DKS supports my recommendation.  :)  Better modeling through peer pressure Chris. Dump those clay "blocks"!  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 21, 2019, 06:02:04 PM
Well the walls are just blue foam, but I had to seal all the 1000 small pin holes. Doing that to 100 blocks doesn't sound like fun. And I don't know how well the foam will emboss.

I'll try it later.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wm3798 on February 21, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
You can airbrush the foam blocks with acrylic to seal them with a good primer coat (faster than brushing), then spray mists of the highlight colors or use washes to weather them.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 21, 2019, 06:32:38 PM
Well the walls are just blue foam, but I had to seal all the 1000 small pin holes. Doing that to 100 blocks doesn't sound like fun. And I don't know how well the foam will emboss.

I'll try it later.

Why do you insist on embossing? The blocks will be smooth with some (probably invisible in H0 scale) tool marks.
 As for sealing the holes, you could probably poke a wire in the bottom of each block and dip the blocks in some thick paint (like latex house paint).
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 22, 2019, 09:16:41 AM
Well the walls are just blue foam, but I had to seal all the 1000 small pin holes. Doing that to 100 blocks doesn't sound like fun. And I don't know how well the foam will emboss.

I'll try it later.

As Peteski says, why emboss anything? These blocks are surprisingly smooth in real life. At most I'd maybe add some very fine sand to some cheap acrylic paint for a hint of texture. But if you cut the blocks with a fine saw (as opposed to a knife), that should work too. Me, I'd lay down a few strips of cheap double-sided tape on a throw-away work surface (cardboard), stick all of the blocks to the tape, and slap on the same paint as what you used for the quarry. At the end, brush on some powdered chalk to keep everything super-flat and to add that patina of dust that quarries always have.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 23, 2019, 06:05:49 PM
I got the slate roof on the mill and put up the fascia:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eLc9UfWLOSUrCVkFJRY2zE2RZxY5hCkzJRSLrV6w7RLfjAHYDkNqj9gNrUDLCv5fxpoqkauNCuqvtygfXLJSqBjui-kaiXcfiupnRleY_zi6ZoVE2VSb103dOPue6djAGChNCbia_qmEhHFET4E3-Dcl5pniNDhZB7O0d3OEG8tn__KvnoqzmEtbq71eCb3R9PTu8bE2wk9S2aCzqxdFb2QAmFyju9dGQ6xfID4hdmKkUReCX2Z_iJUC4YLi9hNoNDBYLpYy_IItrKedMfQukUy1MrbnYuAeX-tDAg8AVJpb61q5WmiBwLPHnmLbQl6Ze2lQ8dzxQpN-boINc4X_2JyqvI-j0dvwzL6bx2UGVSF5ekxjffacj4LCO1tlniDWK3hD1ThfKUDaehjK30oAOBhIUAJBx70K2Yb3b89IoHE0YPiWQd03DCcfZs_p5m4zYnhCntzLWlW9tu095qtsYfqg9pBdgX-0atpGvcQtrz5VeekyD9V_Tfkchnw1M2QkTkOjAgoKpMvXGEN-y0k9zEciN-iwtUSrYtSfNaotVkMLyqN7y5q1ZaHSNhOlHR3Vc8YfuHjppe2qNvgQ2I1pT-_U994-xg1nlil_ljjhRBLTJdOZIgVSmdaKo6-xLuIm5O3gs9PoNjyUHlNtihubwv38mboeaTa86dc7BWgyF_kAsu2d-9ArHhORvTc2T82iRjqJJ2hxqgy9u19xofpsXnx8qg=w1539-h938-no?.jpg)

And here are the foam blocks. I'm happy with the shape since they aren't perfectly flat. I even sliced a paper thin piece off the top of the foam because it had a different surface. But look at all those pin holes and this is after 2 coats of latex house paint.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Vks8GoPnra0YCMMSpjOCbJF8xZuXFHpNq4FaFVEGlwfVdcTDLp-G9VshYR-HZncQa1OLD15Jyhz6wXU3SZg40XjTgksfvhMbQeDtWUq04oUoPz4-xAZdUuUxamuMRa_PLi3YcbsKZPtTA-bj-PERGyoa__LKLn-BkzGBx7HEZUYzVngpaF3mj3RaI6O1ewTDi_lo4Ymt3etnwFDBI4GvEQDrNsvNuTxTfP982JJVb-xUR7uytkdEyMA0UaOGG-Geb-N5c2dMSn-R0kH1wHH11wWCQK9zThCXbCkk6kiFj-96iHJUygLF_03teA78xRkbhDzdy7lQ7_Rq8d1wJsdyhVUHiIaUDu7k_n3tw6D4asUnQ-NwuL0kXoGyBgeGdQ8q-PEdX00HZwaeMEEqXqYOBaCKOaWZdLhB58_V95Vp7PuWLst6aPVN0E9YSyHmS2p0H5Z8deoQI_6ov6AVFgSviXws8vzZzHg895td8TEcrjNxGyLhgBN0o8_Wqu2SvQVyRRUPuNWnPzXcVh56qcELmf4O9s5N8DfbKDFsRST1mNxF7vD6NCh8WaF5Ir-9SHOdJnXRblczfc7hedj_f9vh0GGgmWOvmLLr7-Ef80FppXwzQIULdKcVYSHJNKgpoN6hrSbumhdS-CmdUKTJjOwyUVTXrHiezs-2tbvx6HD5AYOpJprx0tQFBWvSDc_UA0nUbKj9euihLOYxgX7gdsmw0R3rdA=w1600-h809-no?.jpg)
The foam will work, but I need to find a better (or faster) way to seal them up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on February 23, 2019, 07:21:08 PM
Spackling compound.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Bendtracker1 on February 23, 2019, 07:22:14 PM
Chris could a quick swipe of your finger with some light weight spackling do the trick to fill the offending holes?

CRL just beat me to it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 23, 2019, 07:41:48 PM
Should be fun for 100 or so blocks  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 24, 2019, 01:42:33 AM
Should be fun for 100 or so blocks  :scared:

Probably about as much fun as hand-forming a hundred from clay.  :trollface:  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 24, 2019, 02:13:29 AM
Clay comes in bricks, sorta like foam. Slice them both up and the clay doesn't need sealed.

I sealed the quarry walls with a coat of paint. Then Modge Pod, then a second coat of paint. Then filled in some spots with white glue, more paint and sprinkled in a little dirt for texture.

Just don't feel like doing that to 100 little blocks balanced up on a toothpick for painting...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 24, 2019, 02:20:55 PM
Oh well, I guess clay wins.

Is the Modge-Podge thing similar to Acrylic Matt Medium?  How about the spackling compound mentioned recently?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 24, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
No foam is winning, I guess. Sealed up a bunch of them tonight:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tyQWGnJJeudHWiTUXc6AZ1OxVQztnMihrmxXfNAuAR8361vbt1ijd2KTaXg0MiojVaUwJqrW4d4H0KaaY30Q3vm9sdosVz-7wsyLiAvljzrqlkwEZ89UBQM_k-wFXOyrCKBxl2xjjHPDErLf13KVDFDi8v2-FTeeJlj7KK1LeHegPN6sWUi7tkPuPkitjlbvmyKZfzdvOJEPCxfQqD-gLXrP0cmkfypTgufro2bGc-JCDhQeaLtTqJFHbdgCYvdHinJnJjq2v9wJuMx7bMJDDhr5wYc_Io9sAMHizAhETtR-b5EdgQeSTiOlyHzWlVhZyN_lVH1NmYp4HxB5V3sud0jkFyq8CG9ErRQDrsPJ8Hhmb0MpjpVDDDAa5g5AFjAq3BnWNTr8nAj7PCEsJzf3qZxGVP-5S0AFQlUXMeuqWJfEwXxCXUrweJG8nLDk_ykFSPsa3rKD_ZhslKjpRH_B26FFl3x74r-1MvDj0NvS4_t1EfOhhQL8jQAua9rxLtBE2Pxry91wFAo063tmOeMgJRgMe3NPfCqQqbtqhuTQfauTlkygaxUWBY7mrnrRe5OI_p_8ahng1X1FJeiFJ8Hqk89Im3EIO8EY6E0IzX7vfaVcnvaAXKcSSU9CrpVeoHIXdo8oUKq8laawfyhPYAB329Q-2z1OUu64ua3yUfD23Up89SaT3UWyylbpUsLZbAY8ammqGIzJKqrh00-81UH_Ba6CGw=w1600-h900-no?.jpg)

Yeah it says the Modge Podge is a sealer, just had it so I used it. The internet says you can use water mixed with glue in place of it. After they dry I will start painting.

So now I wonder  :trollface:  Will the foam out-gas and bubble my quarry like it does if you use foam as a water base?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 24, 2019, 10:00:07 PM
No foam is winning, I guess. Sealed up a bunch of them tonight:
Yeah it says the Modge Podge is a sealer, just had it so I used it. The internet says you can use water mixed with glue in place of it. After they dry I will start painting.
So now I wonder  :trollface:  Will the foam out-gas and bubble my quarry like it does if you use foam as a water base?

Probably not - the sealer you are using is water-based so there should not be any bad reactions with the foam.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 24, 2019, 10:44:23 PM
Yes, but in another layout where I used foam as a base for water. And then used gloss medium for the water. I got a bunch of small bubbles a few months later. Dave Frary says you cannot  use foam as a base for water because it keeps out gasing.

That is why all the waterways on this layout have a wood base.

Just wonder if the quarry will bubble as well.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 26, 2019, 05:59:06 AM
Foam blocks are working. I got them painted and washed with ink. There are still some small holes, but each block really only needs one good side so I'll be OK.

Now the fascia... no I don't think I'll be blending it in  :scared: Do you think it needs it?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qI1Sr9meL43JF-EMMXnmDRYynR8EAGPaJD3XWPPwkRsFwYJ1z4cmCjC9OVqCuB-Ato2bVvirw8b7cy5RxMajXygIUMrgqU2CJjvkQ2DpklIBlKYKvp9AMYKHJSqhdTlk6Qlm1Afkdhpd568LSMJ1WUcMPnBxm_Bx7vw-ih1cPatrhFva1Uo93FBoCpYCBIctuCKKPzsxFwnx3qtlLcfjqaUkolEXqZiYXVSKe9wf8wl8siD8BeH6o-DpyJTqieKCdcQnHIyMi3sc-bVsK0KjpJOFDmn1_qnaCip2hcWSzaTgCpL3gI5PpSSUJe0BV9RY7cNLgXdwUM69_ZjhZkik8zIZ6d4tuiuwmoR0QzzKqM3Dgz7zEXMlFVyRiM2y1sn9LgUHxQDdIx-s8esD_VkGXyfJNwBdmqU_qBBPiGsTRzm_oXfOET-0dWKKKTFJHv5NjCNlErETVk7aZbvv48ac3avcMJTIOqvDZ6E0bEi79ImrjbVktkZWIZaxGdIoLAEgWC-N-uSH3z9oVmiCS7HkNVpgbA2l2Ln6fG3oNYqMnJFjIb3ax6NkCZruVu395zwzKLzMtOCGH8SYKAGqz_asR3mfiSu4BTGSTOV_NUkTzDWP2sQLA_iMuswdw5TZRDJYYZOP8Wc9uGx-xH2uem-DD1Rsi7LnMhg8mfQh4atG7jzw5dsgK-d_CuSrrmJeiud1YR6-VZeLzr6vV6-X250ElTZr5w=w1600-h857-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rawHHidkrKsBa-uXIZCT3vMYvZPqrELYfU_u9GOu2agJouRiu9rYNyXd3_gJhVTpbmCuQzkaRKgADuFiIfTS3GIbbpupfU3OgcR_mB4Q8-a5Izqg6FV1vbF56KepSAqKgKBM9zhi70h0vgTXEtjjrsAi3uyLZtlWjaoeRF088z4MIMW2iuARPPlpfj1msMntF2fpw4BwL0ScI6i-xvNgRVBg4478vZQTm6G975E-Cyf_prURGA6bgitfQS1XuIEKsl6D_XBMGzs2bNDVoy_EeQJYGjqEpDpwalHNhQWEklAmeXOpqv5frfTcHltIHKbx7Qyd_ilmMPNdQmRDlmxOD0gqbUOSpIs0nDOUyWnig-4Nryn4n2jeK6zpQo0wP3xoFbjYyRK5kl1BZIovGLnWBG7mrs0y_S9jjMNRqIoguF5BvaS2bv1clvQWAFwKZ6JWJuSKVzk8NUGj8f68_K8t9OFeCwb4KfM2uyFZj4FRMifPB-RzvGgskU0f_7TAl-jo0drpMh-W-1qWIGqmrfXhcPsWdgn2oMPlFIsIc-vDZLQUXi8pCF4Gwnn7pbRoXgLze1GrXlaKLnT7RbUEghi6oggy6h756In8H2gHYGejjBn_swMIGU4-9tACPGYY3iYeQLupwp4EAfw5whJRC3EcnqOdFIY-a8v16OC91OU0uI2m_RnwO66hhR1tCEk7hm0wu0T8aOc0YD9i1oY4_K-m0tsUbQ=w1400-h938-no?.jpg)

Think I need to work on those backdrops next, yikes!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on February 26, 2019, 12:09:09 PM
I think if it were me, I'd blend it in.  But, if you decide to merely paint the fascia and call it a day, I don't think that will be objectionable.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on February 26, 2019, 12:21:15 PM
I think if it were me, I'd blend it in.  But, if you decide to merely paint the fascia and call it a day, I don't think that will be objectionable.

This. And congrats on the foam blocks. Much better.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 26, 2019, 09:12:06 PM
Foam blocks are working. I got them painted and washed with ink. There are still some small holes, but each block really only needs one good side so I'll be OK.

Now the fascia... no I don't think I'll be blending it in  :scared: Do you think it needs it?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rawHHidkrKsBa-uXIZCT3vMYvZPqrELYfU_u9GOu2agJouRiu9rYNyXd3_gJhVTpbmCuQzkaRKgADuFiIfTS3GIbbpupfU3OgcR_mB4Q8-a5Izqg6FV1vbF56KepSAqKgKBM9zhi70h0vgTXEtjjrsAi3uyLZtlWjaoeRF088z4MIMW2iuARPPlpfj1msMntF2fpw4BwL0ScI6i-xvNgRVBg4478vZQTm6G975E-Cyf_prURGA6bgitfQS1XuIEKsl6D_XBMGzs2bNDVoy_EeQJYGjqEpDpwalHNhQWEklAmeXOpqv5frfTcHltIHKbx7Qyd_ilmMPNdQmRDlmxOD0gqbUOSpIs0nDOUyWnig-4Nryn4n2jeK6zpQo0wP3xoFbjYyRK5kl1BZIovGLnWBG7mrs0y_S9jjMNRqIoguF5BvaS2bv1clvQWAFwKZ6JWJuSKVzk8NUGj8f68_K8t9OFeCwb4KfM2uyFZj4FRMifPB-RzvGgskU0f_7TAl-jo0drpMh-W-1qWIGqmrfXhcPsWdgn2oMPlFIsIc-vDZLQUXi8pCF4Gwnn7pbRoXgLze1GrXlaKLnT7RbUEghi6oggy6h756In8H2gHYGejjBn_swMIGU4-9tACPGYY3iYeQLupwp4EAfw5whJRC3EcnqOdFIY-a8v16OC91OU0uI2m_RnwO66hhR1tCEk7hm0wu0T8aOc0YD9i1oY4_K-m0tsUbQ=w1400-h938-no?.jpg)

Think I need to work on those backdrops next, yikes!

Very nice Chris - you did succumb to the peer pressure and it worked out.   :D

Since we are critiquing, I think that pile of rock chips would not look like it does in your model - the steep slope is too linear.  I think it would look more realistic if it gently flair out at the base to a much larger footprint.  Unless of course your 1:1 photographic evidence shows it just like you modeled it.

This would be an easy fix - just add more chips on the bottom and blend them into the existing pile.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 26, 2019, 09:24:17 PM
Yeah it is just a base shaped out of foam and coated with small rock. Not done yet. Looks like it started out as stone dust from teh saws:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yh0NcQUk625lejqp0PlRfXBU5qTRSMTEqbziOus_t5klH6Dr2ScVr_X20VXPtQLd_2qtqMn34js3OTMvoU2HPsDLsEvo20ykoWr6xJXOb8DQ6XNS_C3VRmfgsskaRZaNrxgZe_y3U_98Q0kdRqNed5VnwDA35UwHypo2w9ax2M_ygJg05cQO3DgR_ZlHuQpNhKCExZXrjGS0P5oU29JfK2eDyrc4-TioZRldt7ZWDj62GE9tC0_r8hJL0ghckukUqwtzI8rxrMpQVsLow2oCn7ZHCwZ5B4pN1l9r-CKrmwZZOR_PQ1QUzAUxLqC2J7fxvGLDqaHwrOfaefHIST36GEqgZEzode-1fGM-hZ3jRaOHQ_pNVa_zOtQjVMG9iOjfBcP0mXz24Cbcp-cfXjscNo2LaAS2rKGPyjME8Lg0NPoLGLSKnIrKWQglb9R1A_6SZCkb8ynsjivezCsclebn-ciusY1f_R7nMV_YPJyUGhmyboQWEPH-tG_EEHQOZxwu5KhsvsD6MQRJBoCJ2EE9U6S4L7Mg5-hxkm2Uq3w_gEi4NmyAiXeZLRBv53JdcOVhVBkRLCBxtkxlx2w6bGblCu_ubfJtBtSarcO09w0QVGQsKZ0MByCwd1chPEhw1a80IXxK5sTl3TEwaqptMs4IZE7aVyRPqlPzgCxjpjT0jLilBd7y8dY5T9Bze0digHfKwpDI5NAi79jM3WON5_6aYkJVuw=w800-h710-no?.jpg)

And then turned into the trash pile:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6gIMpYWdK3JY2MKmOOIhHbyDp5QVwXYkOaaStEFRZy6sfuKXEkGvywBd_WGMf5VJFLuNaEK6hl0ztG0dbYeQO890_n4GiUww7eg2A7o3QEYrfpkgHlvxRQ-zfxQyhC45Ar3-liXxPUC1Wf65Paq83ijvbgVCHtknLA4BBQxtkMBCAxmic1o07kSp_w8s-8kobYgfRnmZgNff7-r19F-r8VuMtFqVOt99WMZnWJsqLFhpAkUKptCcvOB-eNdRo2wTr1zMHToZFVluHfVFo5R93UqfqtVZNjeI1ZqbypGG0BBgF-RIo_PGNR70HmK9TPUliEboe__-D2PgvxinugminpmaPV1gsWpE9yLm8uoQ_fs4VePsrvFZJLdaNbUxH-u8p4GBqNmoeXwiz6BfdtN2L7cZNXUQYSv24cqxkJ_wJgFvV5Xao-NVxJLGR4CpTfhqlJTUNZG9YxfBSGh16TAGy1LRmNxObTM8dWtmx9j8-Dvr2jdlG23VVQopfIB-6LIBRWs7YGNowWTOhxCILzRlIWCkny2S_3Kdk6i1o7H3E4h72umg2tbXjsas6BGuJutg4XA-17AWyw2RIqG-1LoOGbsbmmHVHV_AM2nK35eonGZ1OV4sXllffpeQQPlvHKr50PtKSU1MmoOjXgMJnlfqdrZn59jDz5cvoHSDFe--Y3jCLzGeRaKv4g32Xe0gLcvRWR_B6c4Eqx13wbxD7BGGHeMDQg=w800-h819-no?.jpg)

I will pile clutter more up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on February 26, 2019, 10:41:43 PM
Got it!  Carry on.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 27, 2019, 07:59:15 PM
Over the backdrop peek at the "extension"... and my mess.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YgMpJ_Nmjf6Kf89k_qROHR1D4CRKJCUXIe0t38pl1Rk8rhOGZvXNnaxuMZOFPpOT26o3W4rUoUBLRv0hAXAPbldmCVNKibqO5Ons9gNRmHCKCy1QtHRO771hKl6eBBmQv3e1BkwZ5CcMCG6ERPdddfopI-kdkPxVvgCpBte3ZNdaT35evSUGwfoPywyrsNf2MbqeOxrWh3jvSUZEZxcOl5s-krRtVBrWD4D-XDcQihMRXJ1pnUzQH-PaBRDot8IqQ0p03v69DcYfIlLOArGfouptZsw9nReaSd9PBHc9GG2D4McejRMRETnC2xpxODeZLh9tUuaDUpv1BL8-OVCsgmrtH8WMTxq_Bng3T8KO-DUXpxlP1E_QtqVIzKY6p4YKWUF6bIUGrgNiN9xwTTnNmEtQ5CWxCsoE8aRb8u1SXVOOr8m16DN0qDDuvurJtGnBryABmMofFYD3AgfX5QvEdhMwo20NIcLEyow-MsQdjCxOysaU6E6aXEtcOPJvFC8TNtctoU_aMkn1Tm9FLGpS65Zoe6hIYrsU6nf65_6tpVH9IILUuG6YNjCmddPoYdnK-LZmklJJ8ei369B6imWUkl5IRHb9tr44A5g46RzBA7BLyEP1CTrhlakMeAXiJoOVgif-APUm9ZRdMfljjmZeQnlGWxfptipIDgYrkrUpXTDX9_Siip_J6HWcp3FK_U7oI005OMnoVNijlHa8swfGnnlvsw=w1515-h938-no?.jpg)

Track isn't glued down yet.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on February 28, 2019, 03:02:30 AM
Obviously this is not in the US, but it is some nice color drone footage of a working quarry:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: MVW on February 28, 2019, 09:11:28 AM

I will pile clutter more up.

Has all the makings of a banner headline.  :)

Jim
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 01, 2019, 06:34:46 AM
More useless history.  :P    There was a large sandstone quarry near Cleveland that claims to have been the largest in the world...
https://sites.google.com/site/amherstquarries/home/overview

Here are some photos of it:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ungch2j7WQgUQ_m8dKKzSjz_jhU2WCdV8iOpH0KCb32XqgRQsw8hWynU5-wvomxINmtGhnkRvM_O-7BlxNV-4kOPU5SvVlB6AoA4Xr3zypN6qgjd2NWBmCQUs_z5x99FDTXfZwkvnfZiOTgQvB2bZUCPIavPv-s3Y2_H0CmlUdvxoAZgZdUk5DGqcJJoSrGrSCaZ9DH1kXRFQgzq3QWiZNRInFb7Tdc3y5vBYEIf-50mGVSKRzGln6YvBzUS-T9ls0nGzliNK4C7-mY6-jITOqG6vRYN9To8j1p6-V4wM2bxIQHcn8Zv2eHlh7p2bMk3XEsFCc0cf94L3gMCq1YZ2KmTc0G-3DIpy5HR08f1ljf6SiooRgv54kBub1D8-ojWPEe2MN4g6hahtn-MhRA1BXG4wHtqmyTLuYk2Z0TknSyUnQNSupwwHf6SFK5vMwhCt9O9b3PGgA3rwDARDSY4GEj93i1NJjkLkQakPIxlRomSSI9n-OrlfaBxmWojURSH6Zz395OM6S215qMaeM1CndzzwbQvzks5hZl7skirxPSSvAmuIzVbS4qmALRADl8TWEfq1Bv1N9oCa3Lh1vqhXOTGZ4MwZqFDlVZOfn-x4lVXZsfzkDKYBYE9zfZoldzUCP2eBHjnJjReKP4g4GI3qGiamx1z9mmsMxiXOUrIBDc_8zkmFoYdlTxF8uxLxq_owCDvbDB58ht7lNvP2HCxk0azww=w1467-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TV5sBSBVeIXGfF0oUF_JqQ02Wkg98wtTk_-_-irSx1Q_96TM6pKWuiP-OOhSfjANZxUjzhmnBqYn_2EJBisIDlAfXqTeS2X1erVdGA03Dzrwrj5vEIuGeyh8cgftBNaRGHOvGKQgEhT9a0bomvbLJgmZsECP1H0ZisQ0dauxP46r-nMQRmP0_TcKsW36FqVlZYZA5Wp7ib8wC2NdHTzoi5sWEq1SEXPidP6PsRPKcbhtMfwgdxe8xb9lSh6Wx_rImww4MqSUNqlYwVFIQ2sxNB1-WpAYCkcUI-YElKTwjmiGuBOrKvVHv_IzR2sUyYpw8TlMfqbdIxqh6z-XqS3dKuyKeTQvaBBYIYTM78J6sdThyMgC4h2N_rCVdVt_CRKfGJNA0l2A1Csf90j5jsTA4S1BTUf_kKok7CL2Gdtjb0fvwoRpPwzM8y-RCr1xRbeEsdf2NjGCViGG9d1sovrqIOzY9vNU-w3s13YHUa1cRpgGEBRRMJe1LvEWyGGzC5zNa2epweeZbb66sGqCStEwMj3oFQ1IaJ5ApCrea1g2IZVmwHRCI1cOlHgbmaiCqVhJM12-5XYjgE8cWZGC0h2US3RTrketnCQL_-WDoUI-IFHzxng6U2U6frTd0VoHerrILkuzkk1amLVswieBvAxBl5gs25OSyt1m5-GnpONKAJXPzoHgblAScubjShVjZsEoUI7MDLzgF6IyKIQA46aBgAys3Q=w1024-h627-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IGKETL77viWmtUlgh2U4-I-R_duOw_b3YJefb8qRnhRg8mGwS37Hy04bbLV4CpXNY1CW-kQ8ZhR2uL5bnw4R0stFmwifzyDv5lApFXux3lVzL7zIfMDeWI92jvDmPlEfTJ2Gowa-z1GqRzdaDiGPTOaC90_uWmN-bHhOwcsAztZ1FAug80cxSqVEvfc8JmsY6WLOrirM2n4Rt2F6_0A48AYV4nhbTrwA6QuQ39p5ylUguR8RwcWqo-lNvFUHK4C0bICzAuMVY0wu6ThMJVVmYVzRn6zG-2yGV6d56xLiU7cJMHUvmNtgYZR8BsdbC8QjJG9PY4g_jYfOmFKABltslPoDRnf18tANXRndqFC93OZl36uFjePfE0N9yswTCa4u8cH-hExmEFRCrmlnPj-MohRbXG3ev3JBFu327ghSerSVGn6TiXOMJ7WWDZFJKN5ksVP8RQH4Zxk7Xp9X_riFmS5SwfJXU5ghgA8PhwzDBG1GHZ0gk0Qg-GWvEmuwWX4Dd7fYVa6z_Ltx8IJU0BbzSRoTBIeZuRhnY-cv7TM09d22oUzht91uVO7lKUXj5KZOjR0OJSGRwYpSDPDBWY2FfJ-_TzonbXy1FvY7jLvkGIvwoYSXclcxOaV1dS9tCNijctTN02em2ZqoFZEUzH_WZHwomo1VZpcdb0MPRw5vrEHWIbm9UvOCvmBBq49l-21VtRI69Pa1d0ZtljZnPDGk1YSXqw=w819-h442-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1r71Ihsl53RmScNIKk70S-z-Ph1pt_dvSm8aOXrGgpwJFrZAuxqQiuEsR4bSejZalchXKwzETiTVRQThCvxN8sAHVbL71FQtA8nGEyV2XCGHC1eggL1-_mgWjlgxa7nxNjerOioHx207ZJRJh_G_FvY5KRMnBrJ-jJwZpep7_eXytyoMvu37vRU8MDdiy3RbhZdfbKNCJcc1wN5g532FjwVsaTgoKM5Ui_fEFxnj2LLB4sOWk0QpdBBnkJdEczY9dmpOH69Apk37n5I-bDftyA2j0Q5dWC-HYdGHOa4TwY9ZKJlplPs1gp3Nc6J7KQM3F77Ox2DKT1K-t8hGNNQ1ZBkF6435CpFs3nzsrB3iq2rqqHWY5i4-r344V2-D2DS8PAOGjGyndChyEIobdaZMrobzjly3qXWgOOTPzwkR0IWA_P_EWUmn1T0jiQroOElhy3oJmGFD5jAWfliyYYI7PNMsRvJ1dIBg2LJhfF-on_zfRG_EUV2mK9k7Dofkm8VV1FGyB7qCjqr1xMxMzm_GsQ1AzXWqN8Z9HCt6F88EHwOwKnsH_mBbfZfAiFBBTZ7Cu8jXUfvABVQr3X65INqdSCr24XKqqNhVpXwrA5fy9PMdfLiX21RHzSs5pKnmXA9zPPR6BiiNlurFcRpQl-zdGwxhY6kkRjd1g5_kn8sTMixc8kvnSCKb_y-8G6AaB4420nbAdzKurSVmymWYRTxwn-hRWw=w820-h563-no?.jpg)

Not much left of it now and it looks so much less impressive filled with water:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3649541,-82.2563741,1935m/data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3707702,-82.2518683,3a,75y,272.18h,76.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soXHGlpdW4UL37__zafCQ9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 02, 2019, 06:24:21 PM
Got the backdrop fixed up and a simple background on.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4_fqhfeG6gIsLEFZjgdvThD3AJNry-4bIA6kcSBuXDHzSj9KDmyd_ekNooUJXgP8xqxLcu9DBHVgGCYASNr01tRsmR94JQq3GsL2oImtYjdczCi4zTRDaoeRdVIKmJKCieabO2cYOpwyyfJ9smqGj4ZwQlNzV_xozDqnnHV2UNe8J4OeFbkKIvBeZXj14Upx0yGIPjGwo8SNpY-PGpeorSrsFGx6cCypcV_twbZOnBWTejWkahHt2UYKNfHKvXtoiyJpzjuvvj00X2VYFP_onIQQ9N7CX-o4eyNNikQu7_5Y907-JQJ44xNlIAY2nxFR-dTZ5UwXXo6b6EQRqRSu7BunbiW1z6eoZaQV5vd_UzpVsLWKk3j9z3GkVrCrS2xWrdeY4RlmiRj9sn2HYpmBZRrxITbYN2ohOq_omISNNQG9ZirYWxEiT7guqKY3RpBu6_p9paV8qY2fBnLuq_7Uv5sIm_e9FKLGy2qIYoJac-kFkPJmL4cs5B303aFanEUdCPVyed4JSZAY_5ibtHXLTMBUp2P0dieLW1Lh3WCXrAZzVneL-fmkmTuJuvQ7ajkwVe1AwCJWtsPlOBmf3EhHRiNbXDhqDoWh-BDWNo7BKqemZWPr79pI0DuYChRGtl88DF2p7gdL0_FrbYrURWkewZl4OkNoPKAO9n24ZuvEAwp8OekvLtIR-KWLSadQHRh1tuBXb1nF2L_sQSiBR_oC5sjc4A=w1600-h854-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pnax8sSVU5cHAx8bhEcUmGuP8F0deH6VxNhcCvaMqnf7ja8XH7B0TrLejbk89SxnmdoFJXLIfzB0-PZRYL_5GtGaMgHP14bE1N4H37Up3enqZsTAhNUVVH53odz9VBhaGfXlA0IG36lhv9ACCcydt05tQrm4tAuEA9WdVMFN97H5rPAKqZ03nqHDsqEoZizYNAvtFZyMqlpB41XdLKT_YLRoGlEvtqE-nW_1oEFc4SZLZPfG-nZeDmjjccIf-7v_SdBhu7uHPeMxzxNaQ6zu2h0QRpm5SqO9G4qJO314dIzUkLttglhX8aLBf0L_tp-U30J5b61Q6lQ88ARuOcuIyOr34XqR9nfBEc6YV_mqPKEd3D-8ekRzSIqymOOUGemV4m4wEbehw5-sKoslZegXfSOnOlND_Uw5tpg-5fYBi6TSqUyKTHbadBG3Tuh47BmiaDV0JOy9iuOUQ2iu21EVYLV7h2sHgSXbrzzBkagLT6NLFn3__0CFdBI2J2PzBzRL4wQwxW4YC4_gU_JsgSi-w-GfwgB0a19dXxLYd7Q2CcHy1iyAFfmSjF-UP7obYFkT-Y-2IbMr4XvZpiciadocaF3elALrnMxckZB8wd1PNJEGkajvc1GefaxBK_EuGdan7mUGjFIpm2H0XpkaFrNCp0LHxx5NRTy7igelt3KDjwlsLkzvn-gpCSqSA6JELMrYsLaIL9NFlH8W2MtBM0JUigm9Cg=w1600-h859-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on March 02, 2019, 08:07:57 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pnax8sSVU5cHAx8bhEcUmGuP8F0deH6VxNhcCvaMqnf7ja8XH7B0TrLejbk89SxnmdoFJXLIfzB0-PZRYL_5GtGaMgHP14bE1N4H37Up3enqZsTAhNUVVH53odz9VBhaGfXlA0IG36lhv9ACCcydt05tQrm4tAuEA9WdVMFN97H5rPAKqZ03nqHDsqEoZizYNAvtFZyMqlpB41XdLKT_YLRoGlEvtqE-nW_1oEFc4SZLZPfG-nZeDmjjccIf-7v_SdBhu7uHPeMxzxNaQ6zu2h0QRpm5SqO9G4qJO314dIzUkLttglhX8aLBf0L_tp-U30J5b61Q6lQ88ARuOcuIyOr34XqR9nfBEc6YV_mqPKEd3D-8ekRzSIqymOOUGemV4m4wEbehw5-sKoslZegXfSOnOlND_Uw5tpg-5fYBi6TSqUyKTHbadBG3Tuh47BmiaDV0JOy9iuOUQ2iu21EVYLV7h2sHgSXbrzzBkagLT6NLFn3__0CFdBI2J2PzBzRL4wQwxW4YC4_gU_JsgSi-w-GfwgB0a19dXxLYd7Q2CcHy1iyAFfmSjF-UP7obYFkT-Y-2IbMr4XvZpiciadocaF3elALrnMxckZB8wd1PNJEGkajvc1GefaxBK_EuGdan7mUGjFIpm2H0XpkaFrNCp0LHxx5NRTy7igelt3KDjwlsLkzvn-gpCSqSA6JELMrYsLaIL9NFlH8W2MtBM0JUigm9Cg=w1600-h859-no?.jpg)

Every time I see this photo, I start hearing John Coltrane in my head...

I wonder why?  8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 03, 2019, 06:11:21 PM
Random... the flour mill... I just joined a Ohio River & Western Facebook page (hey it's good for something) and just saw photos of a narrow gauge siding to a flour mill in Cumberland, Ohio that produced 100 barrels of flour a day.

Ed's law!  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 14, 2019, 12:05:37 AM
I was sick for about a week  :| but feeling better now. I go these sections fastened down and the track is glued directly to foam in this area. Got the ties hand painted and weathered. Even tried out some ballast. I will paint the rail later.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hFKUyE2G20I7KWGNaLo9DR6V1tDeug-cPsDgRiKskzj-bbc02lK7GRBBGVyLnIlryI6uIunnCelbQQ9RGDV13wm31WabuT-NiL_XiGsDAgn4wXikDVfTCjqqt8d7z19al5uOO_FmLU5GVv1JUZ3oTFUgCHIDepbWbZmyoaUyQPF1fkmQhwurM_N3xiRyufoa3tNJi_5y02SoiI0lqGFCIY8zAjQQY5UM6DIOfMZzCnFKuQqqANhZrf7eGGGSRhZf-1c6DbBtn85bJ-lzBn5lK2SVuVJ_5DNb6IbBkmFlVli1giYBdTgYG7pzuLsSgfHSlZQdiXPvnOE52yrm93ztbM6bb8pqYhqCAWj0yWyuuP7q9iVALxFCUPZFzBoShcmFyAQrOZbZkn1hQ-ly5LgDrj-4QoKX0wb7MY5T_vt8FGJo0Ivs7fy9S64oFuMaRacQLkDmyGGhDY3-fyaZWLZG9vCg6rngqqE_gitSRyjywCjBMzOHy82i5hs7GmDTdCLHHTy7sZRlxeCKceJ4fTOTIdlunEdzbNPpLiaCCpSwohT0ETEloAJYRjqGVqopGgMoB07SGUkr3EQ5vMg8zQM8EhUxxBk0eiJk9s1mx-WCBYbMNBWg7nyFk46cuGmL-mm5mbhy4BjniZ9Dww4gJR97z8kKyf1uGsIhpdZxYuIq6xh6_1A2sC5dG8PlxHEatLjjf9gdfsfTODdIGyXXHibk-m3xtQ=w1920-h479-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HyCY3XtID_2fBs8WC8wCiwfddknL1GifCt3KEuvhc3nv3nId9S3TsPGh4ek-NFJMtErfoQKtXdkczyMllOeRRZ8khaaWJp0vxceGelEPnPkRgFPtZAJLpKeAZV6x83lwSb37K9_-KAPK9Pawc9QDouEUcfSELLUHhOUGq-KstV33wemSpA0xhVzyZwrJS49yxU9cqiWL_Cbhm6--XT9cMWRZEecP2eDMEM1x3SPwG1gC2HqSZuqcoMl-PHAosE9E04tFk5VDQAFBuEWUu4EXtWqTc8_aWqUekDIChD-xyEHWHrVXdSc2_RKFDM59Qnoe4akE5ASU3KyglH1oDPVj-WU5Nq4JgJPJ6bC_qWz9L8vLIiZS4QOkhU8IJp01wb7-vX2hhOAC8MKQgNiF2GUkaIKu2PuUxygmWxAKdI0kzIshhdA_a3wzY1UcKhDQH-NMa4EpaqlhjVzB_H_mj_TCtIMORXFnvjWIxBZJ65j-6BZ8J9qhdAH__JwveYQ3Aqjl1Bra-LP-I7mK3yVaRUYOHdKkKZ8iuCh84t5wVQ2ZmxCG9SMg3eeLjfYnPou38PWe3LHOhQ3XFJO_eRKaDpmNhHKxx4sKy_maSn1YiAjjKtIY9nXcStIkeYKm6HesepqwURFEWyGyIx7YUTfquaG4Vo15VoRIJePA9T4PEy4YZyiv9TSNYkgm0URvjLr6Zoji9w3j_kuuQWyk0PvTtVWQWN5njw=w1600-h887-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: mclarenf119 on March 16, 2019, 10:46:27 AM
Gosh that stone quarry looks amazing. Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 19, 2019, 01:54:06 AM
Another flour mill this time in Caldwell, OH with rail access on the OR&W.

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In 1911 the narrow gauge OR&W built a siding to the mill to supply boiler coal and service flour production at 50 barrels per day. By 1923 the mill was gone.

Interesting that the insurance maps list weather or not there was a night watchman at the mill, there wasn't.


In other news I can't seem to drag myself down to the basement  :?  It's still cold out, I was sick, but now I'm fine...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 03, 2019, 04:24:59 PM
So back when we we're talking about the flour mill...  The covered bridge is only about 45min from me so today I drove up there. Funny there is a small parking lot at the bridge, but a bunch of no trespassing signs. Fortunately for me I can't read  :trollface: So this is down under the bridge:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sDYc7jnjJgC9i-9_y9-M5NtcNf3FzGiuzukEQN8Jbykzugh2zHJ1m1Kk4eWr9V0W_9REwsGleHHS2eZEftt7n3OYKPg-wEOT4y668_F124BwIgGfcZoQ2tJNAExoxxoAS9K54FOjM6J_VcPVStlgFoI0qzpnA5urztUzaghh88HpSy1Q3cMILCoksSuM971-3FIpQyxNkdnvqWFefRSEp8r8zgoM7vHs2C0m8gbGOootu8eohE20STqAcpXE1b7tqYciuKQNLMk1jHcZ_1edWFTLuRAmzyQaCLShfn4jUQqCpQvCz_GJRxEQ-DRzslEfcZmldw0drNZ0FCaWm9lOPrrcT6sdCEkiQgrs8ALSDXB2eBETIyvnTipS6fMU7HWYcTJkiUM6B7BqMGbx7hUuKKRjI7PsUv4zTmJEDgawHlijrIIrR6itwEgq4wAY9cyHkPbuCg_8pJ7k0xMVPuIxY_MYrJTgeTQ4pyeFnVN2jGLck3CFmjt2Jzk8auXvBvviLAwtEamrDUQx64fotyQVgFGsYjZ0p95te5K6cICY2w7CmdimGk8GecnITJG6RedSxr5cKmhf2piYRiR0G4m1f3Pskex_QxA8cPDtRFSwYgX-6uxIWYMlQCZmtJY1LwtRjOOIMrCvPtgNKfq8mzVxhDngxXR8FVqjvHo8slVaV4zxYN3HyXEBb7RLnNMNqYKJDCB0pa7oE805nBqkbfDoN2LDag=w1500-h933-no?.jpg)

Straight ahead if you hop the rocks up the creek you start to hear falling water. I didn't know there was a water fall, but it sorta looked like it in old photos. Plus the flour mill was there. As I rounded the corner of the creek:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dPM3wZQIl8NnB-DAuKv67QhfKheASjYxutw7tCrJW1tl_A58rbX8HpKDKHlJB-yWL-RwhDz0YX8PyzN-4NJUJAoLACcHEWXMV7cAFc47sJ3Mq6T10gS_BlDhe0brFC14NzisdnBllY9O_k78mzcftluR7LVjBDJNf6eMlM6N1_R1WPMN0Az4QstE8VSEas8po1VXBk82Z8j9rRPl3EfXUKH4if1_K0FuvYHxj5PRZI9AB7l0w4n6OabUWva6AMyOd6vVu_fa50PdvAstzIbSZA2sapoI7SqWGb6I0_qA48br9LJeNoqxFd2BK2M8JsxoQR5qllYB_8Z7rJBMCRbcKxkds6GL_U6bZ0yolXTiWwqrBzZnlsjJdHpdThCm-thc34ycBN_S3N9Ikx_A1xGgWrul3_GyVOO728Zg1CXFqbDHRqg-f9vEY_QTuKJKu5DicL3PxpQMIo8wnfNJVVImRpR8V7VNlZdG2qDBCMFpPLlvNjdd7Hmf4xk0A17s0u_D1-QqLOfttyUOPmKvsx-JSiOGfS8N216Mz4iA7IZNW1wwJm4xlqw_GVjHT_py88T3aG-XUt6tPvR-JlkxVsazS3EpEyncl2JoQCHY0w4yqr8a6oIstcehe46COEQfjPc9FNdyPe8My0V0AXvdEC5_RKT8mbxM6VmO-LO2ZKvIK_Dbb1ozSunxav9lY96R1VUy55Y8HoMwlDSiONV_eBABwCrUpw=w1500-h815-no?.jpg)
And just to the right is a house that sits where the mill was and a bunch of no swimming and no trespassing signs (guessing  ;)  )  I didn't go up to the damn because that would have been right in their back yard and the wrap around rear porch was only about 50' from the water. What a great place to live! So my waterfall looks nothing like this, but oh well and now I know what is around the bend in the creek. Seeing as how there is no trail I wonder how many people have no idea of the waterfall just feet from the bridge.


And a quick vid:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 03, 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Very cool, Chris, and a great find, despite the "assumed" trespassing ;).  But, I can't help thinking of this:

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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on July 04, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Chris,

Just got through the whole dam  :D  thread to date, and I have to say, you do amazing work.  I've always been a fan of the Maine two footers and although your's is not set in the north east it still captures the feel of those small trains and small industries.  Well done, can't wait to see more.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 08, 2019, 03:57:44 AM
Hey look I did something!

After hopping rocks in the creek it got me itching to work on the layout. I went to another waterfall that was much closer to me to dig up some natural scenery materials. I came home and dumped it on the layout. No pics of this, but after the first round was dry I could see that my rocks were too grey and needed to be more earth colored. You'd think I could get it right after all this time. So I did a bunch of tan washes over the rocks right up into the "dirt". I guess the one advantage is that the dirt is right there to color match. Still much more to go.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CHpScv-KVnSLSwRTtiM3XQ4a01213nTUbEQBryKrsfQeJ-DeEd_uXSXRdhqAGYi4as2qy1HmTyD8H1WQiHgOdAtTGAeTPsv1i2-cZxEbMuyAsJjlh0iTn8rXN5IouFmQv6lL3i6rIOtw-xIzSGAgvX3QtCcHIobtfZgjBv83qmS74kXneL6xWKII9aBB5KDh1GKRfOnTbqq-hg4tbSqGCZcEYoUs1uxbXkepF7MGakzFB6UlE-PQ8Pz_JO9YyAOzytbNhKPfiztcq_GzqO6Zuba2Y81E_Jr3BLhyY26wZVZQgO27niezwWA71c3LjqtImSFRHKdbqxPyAbA3dKAo9AiRjSvXlGkyEpHcqV689v2-5gndCN6hmaninwIJSnXAa_hm84jIkY1zhWTeS6WddKL3gp5SD4sFP4JJTTYGsoXWpKk1tHN4r1JddogV1hAqGw-8CVklHa3ISLsoMV6YhLL7n_cv3kIJbizGYxKTAk1Uc41N-p6Y0u4ino-UjiCwppy6Lxr21eHMuhDRc35JeL4HRfv8Nz4n-F2QvcCoRDfAnDWYMiE5ma_rMTXR0SzDJtm_IVtIbiHDAvukaG-xMuuSlIrtZB0MkhQhFB9eqexWZPoTlpZscq0iamfGNRjprUWVdkVcI4wWGsoCg7sYljzMLQMO0KjLjVqjZGyBVH3h1kDih0t7EXCGqJbW8g_OvJQ6CRK73XeRObOQk1XCkxjOxA=w1337-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CFoDHFspJSeWWsthilXe4g_rhpWr3aXPyBBBLVtke-ljLZUYLrtAE7E3q8ErICzE8zdf2x71oPIqZTwYSCckmMEv1YNCk77mYX9NCxI_Zp8KLWCu0RYJ_FwNOU7gUVUJLb1ct6ja9q57GGcBV-e-1P4xV55aM_F1XqIXhm8t716SGbjU_qxzGecb-R66BUGNnTXI7-FKH_AD8Aa0tIIHy9yVsKYCz_sQgoToYyMP8CwPVY_lsflgJzcGuT_4eFKwAyKfBfsmKhbmgfGuIoYA8GkcCa7t0KOHvmh-ZIwKJtrKOgRcVx2RSGZoE4BnkSg5FFnEhP7Mii772FW_dEKA5JFNMPXxHpzRbN-QTzDwwSMx3Q2zp1fF3RiwI0nI_tYYzx56Q4nYT8JQsR_S2iLhEf3DukKhJQJ-miAm536KvKG1EUY9D-8Y9H8V-IUmRXTKA2Vv1M_hoQXCZmrJO4FiqHvID_37ZGwUiEhCKP93_3WPOnTnqwSbW-DAUEPTHdR5JsXMN23_mJZvmv45Vrnb9w0quv90o4YUk14OLk3xp2E-jMBzeiz6UdLD1v0xfObk0Hl44QmCKOppYhwQSEI0VzQcGxK7Bv02Zv8qNYcDEQBiv60WtEN4hE2bFG5KNGOWnqXCZ76qTevvpPgA6xDu6lRQ7qCq8d7NQSOoseu0Wi1Z_ku3QWTRNTKsicL4tXX4vZi8m29bFsqwwT8MExd4jIyCjg=w1411-h938-no?.jpg)

I will wash the rest of the rock on the layout.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 08, 2019, 04:09:26 AM
And since I was there I took pics  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kSDZ003HTVrWCHQYegtqHMSWi7VuXKM17oCd8vu-AQbuctVHivrdUTgIMxeIpBIZHm7DpfUP8Wub9Hu8T86dibSU-uANDcddKF8YQVLbBKhZDFF9TiBKe1YYfrehwClpYtuBESWB1xF1uS05ml5zCLZiB28XESUL8ePAKjc0h9Y3q8w3ooSndAIn_vxtEZnhhYaUvJkheoKnk0sx0JKmtpUAaWV033ZYjqOf5x0kaGiRsaqQ7DoniE20G8YFe-Lgo-YZnxSsoxLFaU-Hx4QphWfjJh_DaRsGCKmz3bcznOXFuP83CHTCXWizElsvBKT0ZUqLeoFdsEs_t0y6f5mPJUDojceKnTxmYW82IyYAbi-nbGbsxOpQvX-mWqpdIJvDXp9j24802Rj8DIoPHtJN80fjqF-st_DpMsEsdOfsp38ek1hG3ZGX2xhbRWXDgnhnwzAsGAvWNDzVWVsEBFVSDZKc6zD1WD-jY2RWDftvPI-xEmbWBlj95iZy_Y5DPPy8tn7D7IuawnfCT8NTN09W_BAPOxRZB_-MUcsVYoxMEwfTI7DjfTIZfoOD4-4PRHOdhuV2xCY0Vnd5Ug1Mhn-SpN1hsYhy356Mo0a2i3_Mp9c752fAE_unmWrE4dJzqfBzy7HiLEJ83ZJDjiM4_qlPjwtzrCarvqiZN3LLDPzAL3ttHX6QrXaSmm3-aH86bo09g8NdaMqlDKgL71U9xEzOtzCC6g=w1524-h879-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vDj_q5eUfZ8sAMLK_9csvvtNq84yXefF8FVCaPL18d9mkjkC4OH0R2bn7105FmYe4PijpXUUa-OoHl3u13bG3kfjnzGgpEgirJdlVNrNKv0jgwL5d4i7BM1sPHdpPa90-V_aaG3Ar-wWKn-wddj53_1jOLk-2aZbTY0jwuqoCOKHPzwJFHhTODbOPA3_9996VmTXB_tKemZT-Js_TNiU5GxOo-Xc81MOm07z8LrmG-Cy4tWjvn1dze-AFGGd0ozF3bEj4jvoeTEkvghxbdgUHXbojtA5SYhOALKexUi-EQBpiB_d_ZNrJURQ8iUIAQFxaxyeRChfyesqaf3FCAv8hScBTy4se48NujAPFP-63oyfNTBeM6NsO00Rp-4yx7q7s73YYR27SHdwbi_q4_6DjIlXKJ7UCA67e6_D2oeVcxH2eozr8-DXR0MKOU7h3IUy12mtmRrWf-S4MsETQ2TNvIyX6IRW2z9RhnuWa_vR9xg4CvsywJyIOe6PQ1JYOFlTaRCpgt3Us8BszOK2KxGiwNOaww_KIbikP4w12TEqEVefUDBVrZoKjF7VQpNPtzszZPnxheP8hkD5c4ab7xvzqLLd-EASlyMGDbG_LQcdyrEe9_W-jP62uX3YjG_1Z2WeR_AeYwLb7vWyEr_dGgcOz4n8lxIDjtzQzHMnha9YI50kQJowrNMU9QIuzF6PLTpNznhRGD_AQPja71jR4xag7DmvrQ=w1524-h859-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0vk8L8g8jQSYXw01AzisTKt9binoGtdyJW6X92m6uKEF9mn5wzCuMBlFMFZJgsRe4230EThruByduUW0K_oHIQ615RGr2t_kQvlP3V2lKcWZuH-3F2y5ShXNqssR-E9IYua984m-oC1vom8SI5jqPofIVPWpFWahszFc6TAuolURXINh97J0y-ZjoNKk87nPF05QaOSvzem7SSBPa80mBWuUuXSAPzO1MJ9CCyfFHhnRYUpldkNVCIHWp8sexJI6WQa4yNriayzXtQAlrYMHmGcWDHtefAU0RQfPzlrErX1Mld2KAjyuYleOn7k1B5wEhb9vguE2zo5PfMp6JDqUeix7WLi4hetcxuNAqkjwzRd5IgH6H8IWiEwf4PYuAeMBmUgtGaU8vjVlmx74NavfWmf1I4q0yGcbfn2OwLwYqgmWoKSWjq6K-lzA3ezqe1pwh1xlYraO4a40l3GX3vZZOn5OTbb-2QN0uPBZXfhQh5xvw0QXgQk8mkKZO_OPPuBJl8oa_NFAnT355JQKzYTNfvytjfpWdzwHNPQUQ2Tn84gGHlqdm39q8lBHQBeTO-AdwtyP0mVjZ5Dz2g66mzSf47cfyBqrZfBc2oKFKdKu92biWgs5GsD_6RDiBKQ0fQg3M10lkuVe7k4LGa0juAj3cl3tbBiOXRPo6QZv-v7oZeJuO6_Q9j5vm6bwpN3u-L6BmzfAXuyembhTjIaerOg_UH8yyQ=w1524-h859-no?.jpg)


The dam is here: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0373486,-80.5913959,851m/data=!3m1!1e3
On Yellow Creek. A very short distance from there is a pile of rocks that was one of the first iron furnaces:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KlxEVj5io_uWIDreI2PzJeAXwT9vvFhEm1NyDAzPEqKgPBAW-ULJ9BcaBBZGCT5FCf8E0iFv26ccrZrw8hJrTsJe7uNZ77fyIFxhXb_ohHIOcoNk4WXSynZioYEpbSuyR3gz7bJBylIOeF1x52s62ogovA2XLiujpxe-a6DLGLKj-D6imX9q051yb7qyelu9u2Lqh6zzDyFTTHHCTQKVC94jfZRcoVF-i2l0KlebK1c665Lblxcp3exfOkEpfJlbAS8t2xIzURdvbB2QIp3P226XsBwlVF7wor-cZR0q2Tw2t1mVT8MB56zOuRRZglgMqAuh16CzMjIeL1zUpaEStRwZnpT5iZq2Rnblp4Y-C93hV0DIhk6Kmc2uqhBpVQ3K05sKETX3EjQSkA7LH1XlZIn8rnzYmEz7lKCIae0yOEkCge1MPZA4bTQwG0cBmhdpSQWpPRJ6KzZgthQKdj0o3HFpwzfh2Rx7Aa1jt3uXHXpHUUGR5BehifFtotdThRhR3ruRO0i8EoahZDfrO0NxAdCUGkQlfjjbAT_DYne8ff7ayFDN17BmUXP2ukVJFbHrdJ66kSwKmZh0amqAgkaKdC3iJZySPoPPsl1t9WBy7bfMeWoxfAJiexDus4aiUHYIVCX5eBPTVtaMMCwOIqfxtMBKqy5lCyD5h3jDW0TQvjloqy2D30n19GN6Cqq2KSYD5M9QFDxwP8QSvbWx9Rsnft3KJg=w1046-h938-no?.jpg)

In the Bruce Springsteen song about Youngstown he talks about this furnace. 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 08, 2019, 04:16:22 AM
lol I just noticed on the historical marker they called them James and Daniel Eaton. Their last name was Heaton  :facepalm:

James also founded the city of Niles Ohio named after a friend of his and is where he built another furnace.
http://www.remarkableohio.org/picture.php?/8393/category/1417
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 14, 2019, 09:59:20 PM
Started working on a new caboose. It is based on the 3' gauge Hoosac Tunnel & Wilmington caboose, but I narrowed it 6" and shortened it 42". The trucks are MDC passenger car trucks.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DE9-2rHWiABbtnFDKYuAgQcxPGW98YN5rwZE4GaPoTD5SSlP4M1xvSEr44dmQcReNLkc4t1aF6s1XkIB-KWoO723Fl3tWOiNFq8s1KoID-9zSNvLt3Fj_e3zt464IMFA4CWFZVcpdC-A_P8x1GaDcR7w3cQrBuuplvLMK3WHSSX8UnX6ZBxfnSgVC3IQxtTe7VqWFdy2QFYpJKbz6dUgE2oyC54SPhdjHv2Zcnkvg0SrfbnMdHTslVQ5zDEhoajOI-8S0hJmzHsorTddUxsoS0lPDLLnFqebqrDD60HsjZltGB8SMPhx_n_kbHcNzQKZyt876m5197a6MJzDrmMPbGLqLztaL7xynQSQMIt-WRwiJBPDQhy3oRM2XOUgUfy0BL1CayPPrQKgMr53qEYNUqvdtO5ulRRUohLyGIBu1CXbFjtq0bxMcgzCGAiLBz6zTc3A9qIk_Mt_LHf85y-6Aqzc19IAkLzjZXWNJ1Y-YTNFQGwU39yprMDRIztvzPYVK8R22m63H6JgiGITFyADolnsbE8ldhVIDl1u5Kca1kfxIIm3yWnTLT1k2VACQu8fTNdMqzBbjoLblO2RRholWZH5Gnfh_aCHV9k3GGD4K3H6LNFEdpwvLwgB74c2wAk-bvENCk3_l8zV0_oOI3iItTIrU_GXt0s0h7gNyJYyQllqIRamXX8qRipZbYYB_oS32hWgGyDueyPYukkmN_ExE-sEpQ=w1524-h857-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SkM1OvRDYDE20RanLhsyeHMBL5F-pFQGv-OUk8sd8Qugs3s3HB_gHtT40lXms8sNHsunIDt2U9MnlV_TYMpVMf7lG7N8om0GBc-wZcZbD9KV_qxzHqRVxnfGGDG7HC_GakmWQBuFBtXpJE1NWgXlZYgv1WLD_B1q1Iar_5xIs6zWONCN0NTO_3jQ0epLVFTf3ucGX6SI1n69Km9z-lM8-yY5qPcYI9Vbnm2OQsoyZ48Fe3Dxcz7GZFQC1QGIIxyQsoj0xKa2qLv7SSnUs69FLQGLvjOEi8rHW-cAPPOXWQkiULOLaSd3xK-d-kcp4fnDjOqAL8BF8jJtWCC3RdhN3CHETiBCnrVxzwC0GGuaWqWvvtE-v3BnuVdu0vCJahaQHkebr_TiauUBhHkNiLpaqOjI5iD2QZG2Lft_HiYs-AMFZPKNoYEJbCDndFHyvt8i-fABQEXX51aDdwPgG38649_83c_KNBC61UMCe1du4axbjPTgHdPs7oN5uPmpHMj33z_Qx3wHsOqGS4ocI_aw70pcZ9zTE1En2qIumjAA5y7Q1LQStd8TOSB-hCg3beduClATRgXxHOZBafflmuo8GgMyFwPO4100LremCP7s0QPKFMA6MXJBj4UYFT7cddeX7FI6SpLefc5kCbw01_zf9eNDEBKJfi9GSPLYNSfTidNq4HobdkTHoH7cdnVfGKQw41d0UXS4wUy0NO5DWnjxtAWl_w=w1295-h938-no?.jpg)

I love the narrow cupola  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/P37pW02atQxUIYoB3ARiT6dbTwwbE5XNJuhnGNaDXtZDR-vtw_bHKsuNyxkf1s_4C6NHOdlqU7OHsF9Ksdjb_Q6GHai022pCc6qLakR95Ni4QXnONS-shAX2laZ2_hdIENsv6aenqHqG-LrCSC5aPrDUhJtIyny3eSLz4J58xGfKFWHfSqNe-vMD953OC4rCjUdT9ToBakIste8Bg283vG4jvURXOMdvRXaVMEWLw4nz-wjmqi_S2niSXWnT3b-Mna9YiznmoQSnM6ZivYX5vJZJGRPgCCN3UH_0h-_Rkcsb7PYAxQ9g64VFiMdES1e7kLE2gc9o1ZV2Ok_NEy992lWguPrAZ6N7bFFi66laIJT04APvv9f1kShM3oRT7YEvMr9WSAXeBup25bmJOZNdxykzOlPzc6f1ogksMVxex11cgasvxoNbBvZLpJPckqCUgw_MpwsF-Zxq9S7RMIIyISpXWGfj62lMG0oJlwQ_KPyx8Vi101dHMpd0UpIDSRzgSlaYGk3c7_sqcHuHoDns00PPReLBQJqVwtHbdM-sjaKvoHGcyvwBhX7T24bm_fsPwiyEmHh5MuAvmtKHW0KsGA1xn4IfGTSbE-Up7oNX3u6dI2AjQgQKX-T0VqdHFqsFP8f3-N8uIkprGP5NNS-EPxcrACGXALk-vKwwwGQB_xV1hz6eVchNmsodQJTmwacXn_oxSFnieL_iFgTvITQKjBQvAw=w525-h938-no?.jpg)

Planning to paint it a yellow reefer color to switch things up and put black lettering on it. I was wondering if any of the graphics people could do artwork that I can print? I'd like the top curved like the original:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5CfM6_22Ri6U0qfRalAlLWiNaw46B8eamuDqckxxuMBRnsfpeOpnhUVrZobfxcuC3Ew2zOfIY-9kKtZWjmJmWnvlaHqANzK0pcNuMudwZs3zvzToRRLDHgqGgh4iuKljjQYF67sUaOAXju-L9Q3anhwBVsAQZ_VklKW0o-v-XO6ld_aEeYKp8a1NOdNQlpMX3wtHI0qSDT8fEPjzveLf_LhE4gCscA3zur6MGepjcPiJWJfcvvsN4WVYM4nVr_T7yyaBhdvtaW3BuNU4XnrF1sWvrPmX8EmdeFk_6LOfY7DH-mMqnQRn6cTgTvw7Cal7oDXjVSuwGkhDLfV4xTRGGaKmx3UDJchSqkxxJTflmdsFbPNf0ZB1r1GJnuJqCUNp0IcaH2LFN1_di-HwTgKLPyTzL0lvWQSNPTT5ANimS2zo4R8Qhl-73RpyXoxkiFqhIWpgIXIi5OAP_RekV_uM5Iu-rmwBZtZkWPHk2Q50-8Du2-qVwPd64R_F7l0Th2iox8GjBKXV0S8_VoUodCHgQorVT63GEY1liPCdm2SYGvPkhdiQR8XfiweWMf7hPXez_fPEGe3pJwxpXhKrwtsRcUP7sAXh6O4XJQpjY4obQ3ChHQ94twe3dGAzwaQQx7Sr4xCFo7gmeHM-neuTVwuGAChyZx0zFGQvbj-mPBni-jYR0LladZWvHlpF2vnmyd7efgigo01fQAxVyozYcUSqJhMn7w=w1524-h639-no?.jpg)

But it would say "MILL CREEK COAL" (curved) "&" (in the middle) COKE COMPANY (under).
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on July 14, 2019, 10:03:34 PM
 It came out nice and I like that you did narrowed it up a bit.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wcfn100 on July 14, 2019, 11:55:32 PM
What about this lettering?

(https://sites.google.com/site/newenglandshortlines/_/rsrc/1383333490585/home/IMG_0003.jpg)

Jason
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 15, 2019, 01:05:30 AM
You mean the font or the way it's laid out?

That is after it was converted to standard gauge.  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wcfn100 on July 15, 2019, 05:33:57 AM
You mean the font or the way it's laid out?

That is after it was converted to standard gauge.  :P

Just the font.  However, I do like the angled  'AND'.

Jason
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 15, 2019, 11:06:14 PM
The body will get toned down with weathering, but this is the color I'm going with.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jfbcy0qD4w9pmBbVDAyQWyOZOxqWI4qfqT5y9yp-gAQ1z1UQ0jGqSwY9Ikah9M7WNpMv8Kec_Nxl0d7I7w03ppBun-mjZsS4NGJUuU6sATsftfDO9mXbVDcthg4D-RWipgGbdYGo2dAzWDxnJbrjykoXkHbE7XMYe4ButePgC6Ml_kvpuxoEtFTdZV5BKiMLHbnEIbfJeOm9kbjT31RkzoKDeseMn87A5NS7GECNC2u09E4X1ZFJpJ0q7-7rSg9I84icT-j-tJMZt4tcRSnqscVd_GwGxWwhYbZcvFbJ_ysXScpZ8o1ukzPlr-vRYMOVzeFcrU1KvjS1PdbbuisPJIRfCnB7B-G3iSXtNg6zROs-JGwLGRh7DVJRVczbEdk4Br2ozGcCGUY03bqgxw5fz12T_e6LfQKYfyhIEolNv7tkwia_SS3QmTbeAGxgU7DXoEzZdLrMFm5XviIbni0vfkZKWAQRLuVkaoKepQDYzxsDbNXepjJQzCju8M7Iy0VP3kZad6Fq7c3To7Ql5Zeki-8xMfDUJWuORtjFHGzGi9E9bI8qScurMOkcJjcLAvj70PRDaoJk0pAokGzF2dT6LA6gFKt8HxujoSdUyFYsa4a279TRUclp4CdKC3-9zmx_b5IeZpppvru-CtPRXBIlr8IkaYiu-BIBGCUlQSDx9SMkaCYArDxAy2b6UtMJ3fLsD3ltN4h8CiOwA3EEihrNpSqLA=w1524-h622-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 21, 2019, 04:49:59 PM
Got to do a little more detailing on these 3 buildings. Hotel just got a chimney. Watering hole got shingles and a chimney and more paint. Blacksmith got a sign. Didn't want to add a sign cause it was too "modelrailroadly", but I found photos of a few local blacksmiths and they all had signs, some even had the whole front painted like a billboard. Still lots more to do.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hS4UKgZBoZMntjw7bF65oNo8mbcFHtGNtwE7-WJP-yO-SkWalIJiLC9IqIuI1d0q62UHdTnb6_TcQgI_8NB9mn25bFpysBrp0PVxQcYrcouNPlLiMHd84IrnbdB-ffBBdl_1omiHfeYRkIq4kbDt8YjDN1Dy8-4fwu7_252jlQIOHXWnAxiRq2zSW-VJbbEjSEbpKVepT6F8y4SuoukNmFnSXGYejaeNFOpUgaFPEF6k_aAKVLO2lQ4lynmkYlLkDErEJ9XLg-ysrrTXxJjN-qyJnl4s8ZX-DNqT-YZVcZfwNSdeanjfXCp8-ODwOC20avMs34FVmTh3_JMxJLvao_ISDHVOS_8H-q0NYzk6COfCFeZ_ZsnPh6PJw2y-xtUTP4hqyjAeXafXb4x6ivliZ5l7vtjBmzeHizLZA_9MNINDCgxQcNucVNb7lVPzpB342Xq7fvtBQEsNVTSQotWYTH9VcZY3t_fTUghpFPCDZjm0qJy-ASS9oskbDLrt743_lTUxjFGsNIAf5hEuSFon_toUX8lsj8ztrE78tFQEao1Eb3N6SUl_KaFQZKs7uHMwqHpDabwt5f_sh5Ys7mFw7gptYd_G_wGKSiArm8tGobDuTZejk8w65oXnZDAI0ECYJu47VTnrf76rqA_qktKA-A8uggJ_vgO644wusu-t6kDRmiKVcwxUc9aNTW_iwq4AedmqJwGUWRkDzJt_upe6MRPo-Q=w1500-h766-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RiG3Ajx37hgL0yy1T59fyjpHb4MSCGBgZKgrcdvlXV1JmfxAvuJSY8WiMTo8yi5zT5quqK9Sf1HsAM4PGEc_eiYFj61rrGEEYP2iuP_TfNZ6GckuUN2cC4_DWKcwBuwbxiDXKF9CfVCy6GFrP74jao6sARf5vqAuLFvrM9ZUAVcxJ0Z7kO6BXfkhBj6Pf6IznIPKC7T0K7Y-g8_ljFTOCZS1UZgUYqYXgjcYSiGHSnFX2HUsv3N55uzVXw2viPtkquGUg3BOBE_JSBeghW4HJn0jvuWapTC-qEndcH2GEeNGpnUwTrxHhEvMawlbPatgBvd8b55xzGCIsMmtRXBW6huN3eXh6rQG1CxTosbAl9OjkROvFVe3JoD0G_qJwiUUoiVH3KyPYc6_1PGkqn6VmACrqWquIVqFMwAXips77cgVSnHuG2int4eyAR27MbkGZ70_MPkCDnMBLjvxokl-5NJOsy7-1GIUA796wqffi68i39zy42UyxxbVv02TMP7a9rNigUxIEdmddT59T7EkUQ0ZHco4gG3aq0S5LwM4dwzk_Zsf5KomCFwdL1FkmLrRft5Sk3hIJSmbEsza2CMQRWbraZZYHvK4jX34uxaCyYOkWZVOLlgaJFO4R-cuVQj24bZ_Em3WS7jrPT53Z_8oBVCIUxomgLttI7vC9r6urxfkzUlyvlERRve56rzPbkXYMfqDZ1IV_HhVqGh_idOHA1Q4gA=w1500-h547-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aNg4A6vfMOWPEJ6Svlrpaw52q8KJxXkZM_5OLIBNdeNmT6fzrdpP78I8SBz8nx4kjJ1RZXShWP4kfR1t9ERDtDiCmEeR8sqmSLAMpGlaXA6kxcwPougiFAMJGUskGXLqLCEQiW8WL3Wq0XvMoTml4u9WbBdMYoIv5GIJq3_E5WA1UtdDcDnUrfMZdm13k7kNUAUJ-w6qLEH9KJcUtYNm_XnxUzJkzuuSuJAnoKmN1msNZgrqziuceSrjdtYv7XrrPb-wGL_Vw9_Qhm_zxlJME9sijBfYzC1U_qmg9AxF9ADlNOZbgyayD626hBa23EkMjPQ8q6dskg5UpsC3kKzq2IWJEZHQ2lxjYS26uz71bRuHcidNRomnAJuzVAb7jXBHyRuyO9bcSfKTiFYunVz0_g8OQudc1AAg5GmHRXKYhe_iytlLq3LnqRdn1qvGBsYU-fBvR0asc_9eI1KlS7mYXWWf2j6acuiZOwYcvMx7zoExLl9TNnciY4OfCMwHIjjEoykOlf-qskhHa894KW9PxLaN5pOL3Tcm0472q-LHroQ9gbbtsOa8m7KZjWGPWyKkvIP7_mofuFd-1qXINzsinC8Vhnkihyl-uAJ0yxh3mILIcaWJUajZ04MQDGN6fRcAnaLvqA3TZP5asai4ONS6Y5UIyHJ-OWuNWxLqGcr3bgGOEOG1lzQn1OjXAr_c8mLBcs9QZh2n2ZZpc9ufWN_wQKfP2A=w1920-h437-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 23, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
I sent out an e-mail for a sheet of custom decals... I designed a 3D gondola and boxcar based on Ohio River & Western prototypes. No pics right now, but a few of the OR&W flats and gons were made in Youngstown by the Youngstown Car Manufacturing Company. This is NOT Youngstown Steel Door Company that everyone knows of or Youngstown Steel Car Company that made some Erie flatcars. When I read this in the OR&W book I'd never heard of it and looked it up. Here it was right at the famous Center Street crossing.
http://www.therustjungle.com/rustjungle/2017/5/15/youngstown-car-manufacturing-co

And here it is today (notice the steel mills are all gone)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.086052,-80.6209811,3a,53.8y,184.95h,93.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXzGBS17-7DuuCE7mcXGnBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


I decaled up a boxcar and just the "MCC&C" uses up all the "C's" on the sheet, a sheet costs about $7 bucks these days. So having a custom sheet printed is really gonna save me a little bit of cash.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Santa Fe Guy on July 23, 2019, 09:10:05 PM
Really like the look of your buildings Chris, the colouring looks very supple.
Rod.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on July 23, 2019, 09:21:51 PM
Really like the look of your buildings Chris, the colouring looks very supple.
Rod.

Subtle or supple?   :D

By the way, @Chris333 , talk to me about that middle false-front structure.  Where did that come from?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 23, 2019, 10:06:13 PM
Subtle or supple?   :D

By the way, @Chris333 , talk to me about that middle false-front structure.  Where did that come from?

The 2 sidewalls came from company house kit (City Classics) You can get in a 3 pack. The front is scratchbuilt.

And I added a door with staircase to the side. Yeah not much "kit" left.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on July 23, 2019, 11:26:55 PM
The 2 sidewalls came from company house kit (City Classics) You can get in a 3 pack. The front is scratchbuilt.

And I added a door with staircase to the side. Yeah not much "kit" left.

Yeah, the more I compare your structure to the City Classics house, the more I'm thinking a straight scratchbuild would be cheaper and probably easier given that I don't have the parts already on hand as undoubtedly you did.  That structure would look perfect for an HOn3 module I'm building.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 24, 2019, 03:10:46 PM
I didn't post photo of the cars because I was going to finish them today, but have since ordered decals and will re-do them when they show up. So here is what I made.
Boxcar is based on OR&W 25' car, but it look too squat so I made the car body about 1' taller than proto.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SGaFy3xwkNruMxW2PSsGkwvu5pHvaVvSM3KVhvHtIl5wZBeBatKjXEFtuERfnVLH99Mndq5V1AdAMdmnT1ORdQsKHP-2_3_tLKsO_31sKEITxB_Chitz2dMddtNVE6w-KDjUdWRKQsRFpgKTenLRX44YrQP_l1DBu9LC4Iq35BCsVJdWcP1iaGCc9IrnQ5Bd35hWlddUuXc2qyJ20RZBFq5gxkjnEPLMN5iojz4rML63Q37iF2pYVYxVJ8N9l5tFFCfN12NTnhRZXC6XLvC-IMWPg5vmqG61jQg428pOzkE031JsbpfgNZDHArfbAF4z4zVHFnCcgPB5H-AnS4OzxPnKK0n4XXAbhRabRNimunofFwx6pCxmPZQ4dUtFnppjBcbmusJzmncMQxk9TcB4UAYuTO7FNmVClDtmDe3Ra5Wl5058Tzel68rNO-FWyCCzmBLNcsy7BWpUjiWoFnnWKXzNIQbvUd3Mjf11CJTO7Z_QLT4fgI7I933JvW4B7Cjw1KMYPGv2wc8Q9NtqNmgJ1aEZf2puup4XO1wbSy4aA6ZV97t7MWuFUdWfo4z7RUBldvBMfqjH2OJeUowz06HkeDHhHI5s1_sUUBayKdNkPwSNVM6ysLGG426wajOiUw_Yrr5GgRgOivr4o8t08dZKNJ8J3YlM4zS82qy0Gor5KZltU0Ybh-BA8mO4h8x2Ndf6_sM8cqqbU7oRiibC-VyNxnAwkQ=w1500-h793-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/O2LQvq7v3_WW07ObPub6561SeFqr8XQmJ3rdGtsa9Tol_2zPiL9374hueIfKkx4SEK4uGQnc0qZKQ2SIcbxVEdt-7P31gDeDsiArdHa-ixFgplVUa3E1ArpMnaTKeCTQuNEktb5NPviBmrvkIOjC6dFRmt8WfYNd5K_bcnwq_VYyXecT4PXTbSAHTfEy6KM9_l8nrmSDdPuraeMPGeNUqg0YGpRNxlcDg4HacXWSuRK301cYa1Hmvym1aiS8IHBsHmEm-uysBMzLUJxpGlq54hf-KPX7TVOqO8f9pdOzUw5hgLPGfrkhn_jAYpUAGx0pEk7CDZRWvNTmceBmkUDDtC2qQKTAcHnaXGALOyrdKNvmigAxOndXHgCBdG5cra-fDcHltipGvdHZUs5e7zneSUVaeUolhzfZonngBJ5A5pIwz-eT9g823iftO1WOMiA03tUz2qowU7rE8VP2JgviuhEOtXV8BqM4JkrIPECjs_ZGNmjv43zNLY86d1TiVQiOVSA13hCd5i3ei_cbD0eMHSZzDaRkFwHirvpI5YxNU8TZ1yw3Njx1Yvh5xEwAvfq5xebOUh3NJrew_Vz0nc1ix6gBfndsq0Jtx_9dwGV9cRMIdGVUy2P77kjdR2eM4HdwBk7qklTYmX0DGakAlJnRDP5hFekT84Su93TfScwzAyic_3pmzBfCaQv-G15lcL-HtMaHBuht9mN4GeZsUP-iO2Lbvg=w925-h938-no?.jpg)

And this gon is off a OR&W 31' car that I shortened a few feet.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a3lwD8wzU1oeQYUq_dluvEKGcYQu_CTq_Q78L16WARrJvQ9cYIguyNPTMJ6xzBEtUXSg4jZQd4YGbPU6v5a_cTjiIYWlDsZgK_ivQO1HDS6kx6kMH3AmfdJJ5DZiHprbHTh8de-2xutSihLxMgNwRiGZZ89CWVXqlLo4y7dcXQFEb1nAX-xVVeUJQDBZuykb9gDoVJ-FPiUCDJJCUQdIUd-oujjAN9EguzqHhBRWrgA8Ap94R8EX_Q1VqM6jGNmVzPWksGagaUMqyck2v4SXEEgI1pjC_iah2P8W-T5MJknfnZglEwNF3H9Em-8-9JAChCZl_r32seU7PBLj7oiDUIrtbbbuxMieqN5A6VPf51vK6jSwhTTyV3v4sdwM8fLqjO8Q5jpF3BLqQS7MiTL96CGcFlQ3dNEdchwcgO_OkxgF1Lkz4BdSwcDBBmm0PWXxxRxbKH0vyofKeiYWybTYLMaUAzgedbn1IKirEalc-bQXg647iHRdY2IAkkQum4JKL64-pIF5LdT1a5_gNtyZHSwo6dRBrGagb4_yx3AeaLil6ecoDnnp_U0kGbrJleB4SOcW-X2FuiyhikReIblM2N1qmkXcmFA7An_MZ0Tei739aHIdK2QSzMrpouTD-kniQyzrTqEgTuE8TNXCBOWStmHLkr7wA3Cvv1mfXn8Gb_sRPzCCgYPK3YaclmbyEsxJ4xowG8TAASG42SacGYWaklOiAA=w1500-h582-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kZUR-1p_IEXfXcc2WtlBkYNbKhNQ5y8g_gmsy2XsKKu-JUzYeePYld_VZ2ZuSReml7BHogFCkVYbKFahOk9ZlecccSQF3yT-Om4VH2dWwFyW8VIy4Y_SrIKcaMRhPtZi8zNwctZQcKQ_fqPOYei6gqTDEBNfvI59-NHxgDnDaQm4c-tuvQBHojwzOfqXLJWgteUbLWsUAfhg87o5rTxmxwO5TFDiWL1fWt1jvENmGv2nR9iQpYXT05LXvB36JDMh93ZQU5ndYA4q7tUbaKLav8whvrtExq9QgLjQt4rtHRsL6g7iTvluA826gTPeaC-cr3ixyoItfFMH_WSsbJ4-EFxKQZRiqGLex1nE1bXR5EWRWi-S0ggtZ23hFU7g9m5nahPEh56sesr9a4Re12M-iM-5sscPGZBzrB72hLSRGUxXzu6sgElzIO-uUQRxSxE2MgjJPGnlAUUmIeZnJEZGYHLAaD4kYVN7AnKVVURBF2nAVQxfIAIwwoDorjMQle4OsLoporGh54gR_TXW7RsF178EcUPuRMLlErJdEu9obIGT0bBetEUk7trvVJgbzehASzj8I_mVCRItV9Lp7HLCm79gC2Rdobh5irUrdeJY-BA_zLVukgRfMVazN0D9rFK09UejY6yxoXPo1vp3SgvokDqwWmi0aiHKchxrFxr_AAUHDguMTD3Z-qmEPx-XZ8lfNhkWH-lYYLnxQWEkmzwKgFS_EQ=w1500-h482-no?.jpg)

All 3D printed with wire bits added.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 24, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
I’m really tempted to report your post to the moderator, because you’re making us all look bad.   ;)

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on July 24, 2019, 06:15:47 PM
 Chris

 Wow, the boxcar came out super nice and the gon is on the way to be just as good.

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on July 24, 2019, 06:23:37 PM
wow!
super work, Chris.
you really got the 3D printing down
looking very detailed
excellent!


sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: lv4142003 on July 25, 2019, 03:20:08 PM
Chris, are the gons available for purchase ?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 04:40:11 AM
I never thought about making more, but guess I could. Do you model narrow gauge?

Earlier it took me about 3 hours to draw up another different gondola. Came home from work and it looked great. Stuck some trucks under it and man was it wide...  :|  When drawing I made sure to narrow it 6", but I didn't realize it was standard gauge not 36"   :|  So I just spent another hour narrowing it another 8".  Here is the first wide one on the left.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2s2SaaXbl1RdXniHzKb8aETyNQLESjP866knbs4Q4CAUgOGjsIHvSMyK0bJLuE6FXcQtR2zCmS8Tf6JHi55o_AzT1hUh5_sWGSvyIkgnQyIFHVA18uDzZH3CSmxiTSlhuDpck0K4CiVdArqHR2Hx0qut8PaObFvmcxw44k_3LJYPtBF6uXf_MyrT2twjkiB7DNxmziol3r3kGt4F_zIfclVSsMSQVz3l-QhdMRG91jj94NuqEj2p7gvd8t8SC36HH1SaYoy8k9OpqhbgBMmiE9c3TZKrUIKvspOdP4WUNu6e5GMTgk8JQ6vNX60IyS8Sb0sFFra4fajqQwe8YCu5v261zq2Wr0ERkqF42gmNS5GZCaq52a_oAx-7FX0UptQd2eFLrfzxOxoekUx-vV2u6ker0Zey-2ESnQxYSsXHv0xyql1BkwpcJDaBC_TwBW7qZGsVr-ngnZqRqsWQaNsAMp_n_YX9Gix2mwNr9nbW1Jv2rdqZ2ITxW38wgnUQFx8j55igGhCFSJgNmWWikaLuQOTQLCKhH7k0pYXis3e6dzJrAM2RQJ6Se_5ZfaUO1QqN5MlvPMEGhguFd8UivO-ihKBbiRKc_Fvcw7I-soJzapgPnEAg2kQRYnV93_JVlo0-2x7qLOky7P9VU7gD22BohbhGUmy8_sDAdhXhv9NiXYpJnqEF9B2is3pfkhh2Er-Oxd3d7uKRXtvI8j8JNr57p7KyPA=w1500-h420-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K8_7tyRWzMbAiA5kXDt_9mpHe7Ld_izuxKcc2CIJMZtlfqefx2UMct0IOB4o17AJtS6QbGc3U8kVlFwlwJPxWJ3RleaCZgKqZvg9y2ObsjRFCW6lyyIZ5o6XMDs6twDYkToWXl9mee6ULmQM3r77CP_BjTnQddUjn94q9Jn57hZoq54nDI-96mjSfve7NjeH3O2GEp6oQUccXp8F7nHXj_6WB4jMEEyGEGeo3de69xxtqDHq2kfBKnIKNJLZPY4mOUMNZNHvwSJWhOUq1CK1dj9hE4fBSlebY9hRxOMZitp-Dcov63XWPxKS7bq0cY32wpLzssZttVR-lN2bR9lFRlC13w3Tv6bSORZ_NDjek8N1qHsphEVhnzJL87m9xyf5Rqm7t1ZRhHoKZoNGmDAK_cYuEPCV7C0JOu9eWmkaRQyUF077JvxS5OJpXhAiy3EZBIWBpux86UP-eXtr9tMySCZrQ-KBOt8e7AkbWIw_zAthhZJsppYPUapNEe3yVQp8w6eRWYIi4VQytOxF7lNuXF_C05bCjxOMqKC3KYvQth-izPxAzocU4sjWhS_I-_vj1pkKW18c-I5cILb0mKL_v9tGq2DWBrcgL84P0VucyM4GowcgI3mbax0QTuuY4HDPU1gaCbnn9nKCVpw725L1HdQKhI3P-D3vLyUevMr9hVdDdO2XDzo4JxSZuNGurqvlL7Wr34mO27656MTRntZAJhUXog=w1500-h333-no?.jpg)

It also shows another problem. How do you drill screw holes in something like a flatcar? The car on the right is getting a ballast load so I just put a stiffening block down the center and didn't worry about it. The one on the left I want to keep open so I made an opening just inside the sills to put two 1/16" tungsten rods. And the bolsters have holes through them for the truss rod ends.

Narrowed car in the cooker now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 04:46:28 AM
Hmmmmm I just looked it up. The new gondola was from Nevada Central Railroad and it WAS 3' gauge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Central_Railroad

Oh well either way I need to narrow it. Already shortened it 2 feet down to 25' long.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 04:53:11 AM
And I uploaded more waterfalls. I just had to go do some research before building the waterfall for the layout.

This one is actually "Mill Creek":
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And this is Yellow Creek and Lake Hamilton:
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Both trips netted me a bunch of real scenic material to use on the layout.  8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on July 26, 2019, 01:50:47 PM
Need a new header- "CHRIS333- Showing us all how a 3D printer should be used."

Fabulous.  that closeup of the corner of the boxcar is amazeballs.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on July 26, 2019, 02:32:13 PM
Need a new header- "CHRIS333- Showing us all how a 3D printer should be used."

Fabulous.  that closeup of the corner of the boxcar is amazeballs.


 I agree, He need to hold classes sometime on the weekend that most of us could participate. I tried use to the validator from github, but can't figure it out at all. I downloaded something from the github validator page, but as far as I can tell it's not the validator.

 Just keep up the awesome work Chris.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 05:12:30 PM

 I agree, He need to hold classes sometime on the weekend that most of us could participate. I tried use to the validator from github, but can't figure it out at all. I downloaded something from the github validator page, but as far as I can tell it's not the validator.

 Just keep up the awesome work Chris.

https://github.com/Photonsters/PhotonFileValidator/releases/download/2.0/win-jre-photonfilevalidator-2.0.exe

from here:
https://github.com/Photonsters/PhotonFileValidator/releases

Looks even newer than mine. Nope it's the same I just re-downloaded and re-installed it.

Just imagine if I knew what I was doing.  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 05:42:37 PM
And this shows the rods in place:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9zvraW9Zd35l80QbbRTiRSO-xni4tKMGIASaTcwGyANCIjmpxDUIlmbgiKWlkRw5ES9gepiDxHvO3CyQTOycrqQFbudDjDINSeyHaYSfQ-JvNzPF3_XEsJ4MDTwdb5AxBKgDYlHpxouB9kiL1fX4MAObSsLa9HavcfqV2H0LfVMV1utTe1tgU13PUnmlJXzj8dI3yRCgvblVYA0Qd5lhsxDY89GdTz8TwUDg_yJieL93XjVaHaZfbCD23-d2khczUjPgEzrenqE4UuHScvIwnIdpQFl1suae6vn2BFHzcPcoEiT8k5TCpi86YzRJF66YEmTIz2R4Cx2MY0YRBjhElSQiExsuiuWVguWuNhtF_ph5z6JTxuR2EJL31QUAY8l7B5BctPeylbjNZixtYKmz5DrpvogF48j5WAbdniChATC5eQfexleSEHOPEyocTCSHIwsm7VDNhg9ktSAGwuX8LsS8IPBWhosYzPfAwBPBf-aJiF4GWe4o0a9u8UjWnD3l4ECMwRy--44aVH6fEk8HP8HI9mlkmg_cdnE2pbmN0w5cgwOSHF60A1q-51wvKaph-hNFUk4ezXdn9JM_dy0E93Y3nMaa6cUMRBfiNSSb-aKwaaluucM3SNezpllPi2c9MMhrOP2s40dsJeAyMw_hWn1eY6PsaN6zEcugGNbpohxmSKamlLkJyw5J7Mcup5rz98oJqP1yvBXLi9t89y2dOtf6KQ=w1500-h668-no?.jpg)

and the ends:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K9LkjH7HNXIA1O6fSGJNYHBfGwS8uhulR5klhfbcI7RTv1mDCMIg9WjJB29j_SBfvL0SQmOal0fLLBu6BeA2l0l7CCL6NPSO3VsggokWWNNbxNrGXIlTFWZjLGIEv8u7yOFuCdNDWvz95pG3fOFwN6D8oRBLWBkYw34UioqfPMBpXAFjA0htPbYajHPBqr0zBqasRX0F81QPe4px_b_mmvLfl3IoQhtF68VAat4hZ86x6WI-lPXe_m_Y_2_8V7_nQ-gmSs_tHC43h6gHNEnUasEOvfYL6bHc5v4g8qBMKjbIOiTTM-sM6m7TnpwohfKbnu1G1aYLPTD40-VJSDF4Ip2DlT_WSChkXprjY3JqXJVfInnnNM8B6ILBHKREiDHZGI-2ydv8p3Zopmiix6rDyafgbV6VVw2V5MnMgi-bYnKtk4jbGk2eCUE2844sjs85k2BI7x8UB8Ncr59Qsnl7PxH4p8MAvoptlUJpAEKLEN0TMAsGYoaVcuzg7xOU9NvN7LArX2BsqHeSUQ-PdNANoG-Ql9FKQXY8F2KQ58coPHbR6N0PXxz4TdL67Q_mf-ziYn_qdXi3Q46bVODWOZj_Bweakl0xLIB-7AQ4_lyRLRh5iHqGdf9JGwYWiwA1JpKozRX39U7S6-jxPKNnjihrakmTwBPoJ_yW76xv0wlH9PkgHIIANVStcyhm61ysvLvJ4avk5vq-mhqezzX1_AvBiZZG5Q=w1224-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on July 26, 2019, 10:55:54 PM
 Amazing work Chris.

 Are the turnbuckles printed??

 I'm downloading it now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 26, 2019, 11:01:39 PM
Turnbuckles are from Tichy as are the stirrups and the end grab irons. The rest is 0.125" pb wire.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on July 27, 2019, 09:47:50 AM
And this shows the rods in place:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9zvraW9Zd35l80QbbRTiRSO-xni4tKMGIASaTcwGyANCIjmpxDUIlmbgiKWlkRw5ES9gepiDxHvO3CyQTOycrqQFbudDjDINSeyHaYSfQ-JvNzPF3_XEsJ4MDTwdb5AxBKgDYlHpxouB9kiL1fX4MAObSsLa9HavcfqV2H0LfVMV1utTe1tgU13PUnmlJXzj8dI3yRCgvblVYA0Qd5lhsxDY89GdTz8TwUDg_yJieL93XjVaHaZfbCD23-d2khczUjPgEzrenqE4UuHScvIwnIdpQFl1suae6vn2BFHzcPcoEiT8k5TCpi86YzRJF66YEmTIz2R4Cx2MY0YRBjhElSQiExsuiuWVguWuNhtF_ph5z6JTxuR2EJL31QUAY8l7B5BctPeylbjNZixtYKmz5DrpvogF48j5WAbdniChATC5eQfexleSEHOPEyocTCSHIwsm7VDNhg9ktSAGwuX8LsS8IPBWhosYzPfAwBPBf-aJiF4GWe4o0a9u8UjWnD3l4ECMwRy--44aVH6fEk8HP8HI9mlkmg_cdnE2pbmN0w5cgwOSHF60A1q-51wvKaph-hNFUk4ezXdn9JM_dy0E93Y3nMaa6cUMRBfiNSSb-aKwaaluucM3SNezpllPi2c9MMhrOP2s40dsJeAyMw_hWn1eY6PsaN6zEcugGNbpohxmSKamlLkJyw5J7Mcup5rz98oJqP1yvBXLi9t89y2dOtf6KQ=w1500-h668-no?.jpg)

and the ends:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K9LkjH7HNXIA1O6fSGJNYHBfGwS8uhulR5klhfbcI7RTv1mDCMIg9WjJB29j_SBfvL0SQmOal0fLLBu6BeA2l0l7CCL6NPSO3VsggokWWNNbxNrGXIlTFWZjLGIEv8u7yOFuCdNDWvz95pG3fOFwN6D8oRBLWBkYw34UioqfPMBpXAFjA0htPbYajHPBqr0zBqasRX0F81QPe4px_b_mmvLfl3IoQhtF68VAat4hZ86x6WI-lPXe_m_Y_2_8V7_nQ-gmSs_tHC43h6gHNEnUasEOvfYL6bHc5v4g8qBMKjbIOiTTM-sM6m7TnpwohfKbnu1G1aYLPTD40-VJSDF4Ip2DlT_WSChkXprjY3JqXJVfInnnNM8B6ILBHKREiDHZGI-2ydv8p3Zopmiix6rDyafgbV6VVw2V5MnMgi-bYnKtk4jbGk2eCUE2844sjs85k2BI7x8UB8Ncr59Qsnl7PxH4p8MAvoptlUJpAEKLEN0TMAsGYoaVcuzg7xOU9NvN7LArX2BsqHeSUQ-PdNANoG-Ql9FKQXY8F2KQ58coPHbR6N0PXxz4TdL67Q_mf-ziYn_qdXi3Q46bVODWOZj_Bweakl0xLIB-7AQ4_lyRLRh5iHqGdf9JGwYWiwA1JpKozRX39U7S6-jxPKNnjihrakmTwBPoJ_yW76xv0wlH9PkgHIIANVStcyhm61ysvLvJ4avk5vq-mhqezzX1_AvBiZZG5Q=w1224-h938-no?.jpg)

Are those tungsten welding rods in there?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 27, 2019, 12:12:24 PM
Yep welding rods. If you didn't know I have a tungsten fetish  :lol:  Plus they sure aren't going to bend and they add a little bit of weight. They are there to keep the car from warping.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on July 27, 2019, 12:52:11 PM
Yep.  I use those (1/8') in my MT underbody detail kit.  the extra weight makes the car run really smooth.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on July 27, 2019, 01:09:35 PM
Clever. How do you cut them to length, snap ‘em?
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 27, 2019, 01:49:20 PM
Score around them with a cut off wheel and then snap them.

Usually you need something diamond coated to cut tungsten, but just scoring them works for these small rods.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Tom L on July 27, 2019, 03:02:39 PM
Yep welding rods. If you didn't know I have a tungsten fetish  :lol:  Plus they sure aren't going to bend and they add a little bit of weight. They are there to keep the car from warping.

Me too! You've probably surfed this site then, tungsten porn!

https://www.tungstenheavypowder.com/shopping/tungsten-balls-spheres-cubes/

"Regular" people (wife) seem to have a hard time understanding why I would spend $120 for a pound of 2mm tungsten cubes because it's cool and it makes your toy Trains heavy.

Tom L.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 27, 2019, 03:48:39 PM
And I'm getting close to the end for this loco. Model Power 2-6-0 chassis. Tender trucks are Kato passenger trucks with larger wheels and 3D sideframes. Tender frame and body is 3D, body has an etched brass wrapper. Loco body, cylinders, and pilot are all 3D as well.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S7ADcqeaRCbG-kXYDe48C40AYcI3piD5CX3CdsIREFSaWRlRDugV1uLgQRxFckPXKwv8-BPB0w7UbRYkxPZ7w_hYXM0O6eT_bzjUnNVHsZYiP5m06EvyKxfhUeQFNFfiOwQGjsGqJzYu8_4lwBLGWXwg8ZpVuREcrgvcst6btoietXclMkCh01JrN0fCDJx5nyLCgggLQnv7cn3Iot5662NsjIoG_Aw9drZkkMeXsJikeSO5Rxn4EJzE2VU9avNKd05lw9p_MLsx6wkLAq7dEKqk3JcejLK82pyWoRORwJKwPyraDQoYJwFrAuyUpjqsWFGEEnTTq7pwNUfZ2Hm1HVS9EvDIwZQqLxRTHgM_fjJFq7CzvIFTlnY8gqXjQ9T6593VSgr3YKhhsEB5-AIwMI4mDe4yC4c0bXrLGj1e2fBLt9P4KqHsQL1cRtpvEPiQPj4-gJvG8zuz-UpI7EYPcQfofkMxbxTq9aKg73xzjbZj6WFoc8bpGibhjaKoeUhVjskATwpIAk7-XslXZZ8MHrQZDdhdXfKICju61rl9IAG0JZap8P_xzSXpUqCTarRuv6RmNoeUBqS7sohyv54cS7CD0EKWJ6y_HP5VxsGN_vSRgaA4WbeIQbh_9mRLzrJGEZkFoyY-_0qbnJkeCZCqWVB5O7jSBEBG-BT_Bl0ZAcq87SCidZT0npAKzDtgOO2U-GtGn5i8MYoMZdTsMBZTY2uXzg=w1920-h764-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NbFt9lDAy0IyDo00D23Rr84zCK6bAJqfFB6X1pWJVD0vWPmSbVzzKfJ75jUlLAVHpQBz4g3NZZij6TeVDYPjtcbpDobNhGYDtbP1FpTKKNTE1VslA80ZJVr10SLvmZSEyqe4v0zFiHHAn52HOzzc_83e-8KQN1Fzmxj1fcMEv-XPYE-PWefACsFAtnWpsHEhBjI_-b02nitIIkHqJWo7jWUaS3i-Xp3BC5yYoySTAXM4o8jmajtTE20F8DemBcDRQ32-8GW5WmytqKraQm3JIHnDztVlEPIbpM_5NcLdFEj7bHAdHfZPZggzYsByWHpV-LTFU1YXWFqgQgPX3oLw6Q0mSMtOwoZQo6Oio223vKN2haR4nkjOZXxxJV5OLf4XD-UbrdyUvH3Xk1G0ll85VpjyMDBIb3aSpANcSUGvbhQ9hVj8Cn963zh0hoGib4NQlqANa4w4or7cbMqJnyR87i5NnX9C5m3QWYINkGvJ8gIdTU8VKG_7cglAN1EHCK24yFligH5LM5Ny6IwQJhvn6m1N_MKi5dLxZI3g5dE7K6ZrwFyCk2VCFz8wh84-dExka4sK0Kpa6hZalilWLLGFQ3qC0mmQEF7h9qmnpcpIgxJHgjS_aesW6e-6bVC3t5foWHxCyXrayVzg8zs5zMa-x4QTntqWP0uxmCCn37R_bRyFzWFPo36OHWDxiYazsOhLwi3UEt2OV_zl6yYarI3dCTz8tg=w1477-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uq6QV88zcle7DWdHH6xSYP8QT1WAj42w-lMfu7pLtBVbB2cZHhBOYNiBrdeD96KX7epb9c9zF-yuPO5oMJKOYa7UemuY_f2l68JzqkVLDHJho4v_wKQQwH4_07Jn-_Ewxpcb06GK_tQ8XMQlEEhHdI2PN2lCnEqa9ahvvlgcRi3rwiUtPiV6WvTKuzM-PVqR3pGvfVE5JWENuToN4wXNuGGBsXjhQqXPpXeiZjrOsIDgiVrFyppyK2T_KnVwq-cIe3HHu38tj50k9hw2JK3A6oahPgfue1kIeStwaSFmlxKbo8gmsgnrMVuRNFveoaL98njUABsmDJtnVBj2RrQ00WGHGdHcpTy6wBwAYwFUWf1Y-i741_qco0ADb1WNL1UpLADgKoHiNfR57dHWc-gwYJ93T-6pefB0nzYVhZ6SnpcEeDlc_o8LCX-5v6WKu8jZh22FW1cJsOdttvSeoy3PMw8iRznHKH6A41y4g3Lo4bkvUvPr9z5gHq6sfMeNPvGU_ebn3tvDMrmUb-RsIPrRYuyymgudnuhhGjPXB-If7HaS4Ssk6cUIUHALP2tp2m9_H18OW1I-WmhTJD5h-TKVhCk7EPxapMjUZ1jZh0IVZDxQZJF9awnsGNXZrrPe4CHSVrq_ro6tHz--nnLDOpVl91Vb0U_GAnhe_Oa_Vy8Jdf64ylGnX7KhS68aFsq5wVp8Iz--IIbAhcKpQSRRo0mXOYI3Kw=w1447-h938-no?.jpg)
Overall it is very close in size to C&S moguls.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on July 27, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
Chris, what a beautiful piece of work that engine is!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: rodsup9000 on July 27, 2019, 05:13:24 PM
  Chris,

 Beautiful craftsmanship, Just awesome
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 29, 2019, 06:08:42 PM
So I bought a Blair Line loading dock laser kit, but it was too tall (standard gauge problems). This is what happens when you have a 3D printer  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h-bsbid3B5Hnpa_lGyFXDguAkO8fbd9_fwiPXs4CRq2vna1bDVla8d6HkI8QcVy-UINz5NvO99tpz70TE1430Jp6KXE-6v7ym6bica-HrLaxErq-Rn_KUkK32em9GSqWYP-9xsVeSzx4TiFpTY8RfdycEjM0f8ODVIcxwe5Evyq4fJEE2Z9lR1VdMV4qmFL3x9urosv1sdq6lY-iqX4xDRCfx1OXkmknTIcfUo97grjbAdj0m9llwOr6nxcZFPb8hUOYCMsgL7VLfjX-i6CzI7Ps_k_7Uq6wKPVxqxj8eicZfnDUq33HzQZ6b9mBm7_TFf8EtFen05y6SOXWjfFyrTt80l77rrta2w1i586S3k4EeN13ZUbV9D1_GP7j7l-kRLhVndCWAw0O1cInFLPw5iU_PkwTsQaG4Vw0fuT1HcpOKiP1e499GJG5Q8OQKwwEbhiicCBdyuUHW0FVCBOVrM3Ub9qh-NTkOpzX5xXEUZw0DhN7nec-kbDVlLBqKpvAoez4F71-11lqRwASqrtP0M_Z0mldC_4f6k286i45y2PaWu0tNHtMFebVLtQBTv52jkJOt6bDyfN3bL0A_OL4G1MJMYW_kvi0CPmW3uoMTJpyIFN2VmvhfG-HRM4Fw_NCtVNEK118CGww6zFZZg-eN3wPhzAuJH4ujrkzmkEM5Be0pLhV224YjdhfHCzKsMV3i3vtm9VOOKKtohvYKA_yfQBCVQ=w1000-h435-no?.jpg)

And next to it I've mocked up about 5-6 different buildings. Just simple sheds as I didn't want anything large blocking the view. Then I found this Waynesburg & Washington depot and went to town.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nTxjm9HUrzVk7CDtEI4hSgpDgwz6922T_TtLaXbxsdbVPmYGUCtYbuMTMbrnCls4YuZjLKpeuCvj94e5eXrZ9izFTqtLclnEQvWjqRExaBCgQ-J4e_8bBfRDiMnM-OEeEOMN29_OhGhwLn_n2jR8hB4Yai30imbLWTTjwz_BZJXtv7EUtKjI8c8ORyqhOhve_ScU9Y8t8KjDY2IquSRqtcA1hnehLukbLwFL2fF8My9TUOxDz3Fn4wm0jfJkrVlOMm2S851L0F2sXPsu9uxtF08XSya_uln1vHB4uu0Eh5z-KOi0c_eTJNwPicJu_E288YJnB15pndu7_dOavi6K1iCPjGPhX8uK3hfewsX5za-XnM_421ulYYaU9ZHZg5_vn4MLwl8H4g5crgnqjriLJDVxezGU4cb55P6s4heQFVGHmP7B_63FCoS35q2tsntIyDXCwpLo9243YvAHyNNQqMzdivdY3XsXVCRLumPJl8mmEKMkZW_mRnJTRbHdTQGEvS8xP7ZYVVYVKUNJxTuuERG9FsMhQdTnJk6PSQl5Elb704BNuntQvgvpqFf_c_6h3xy7a2691Pt9Q2OpawSN1o0WG9POGCBxML9jnpd4gJ8UWGKxJlpmSKq7ZUjLiBHMhsvyH7sHdF13IfyOL4t9b3XHEsRd4ju2bl5hMEfowFNELWINATL6Ksxaypq7iUoNlvbiejwoJsh77YtYIf1d1jTEvw=w1500-h865-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yMZo1nZ6H2YDqyFovc1zqXP1MY_ntUc4OwsM1rbR8k8IP5ByP2-SoKTrFIufOhv53ZryIw02uOGSff61735JMxoOXUH0DqSRBXjdeNwouGQIZ4siltO7dFoDMZaoWL2cDPt96nwwfvbq9abYvOdsgLKqJyeLAkZtRYwDh6eLYAMygfNXSO8VsYGY6smEPKvsd2aNSFDzZANsW7OEB_nanB8aG_9swvn922c_rHrAV8CVM4b8qERfCgSYC4Z-D3hUxllmpntw5GhEGstpkLjMny1-rTbx5hQxb9w8JzJlRAVPtEzoi1lrAPuOSjGheaULtMhTAjXfvbCjc7ynKB49eN0uNUZOp98ry0rM3y9Z-16whFFn8OaPJVRni4xzHQXnPEdXyI0Wjws__rmDWHfG9GaQZHOIScmBn4ZEVAWnAe2_0Yt1q6UNkoJ7PQ-54g-5lygRSE5lRLuD-l6AAwrV5heUnr_SsZoRo3iyZ7rzxB0U7HAYWvsd6AyjA1eLd6wBxLzOg8RnWwbOvYtjTqla8kMnH1sh7lt55kRGhZB00aFnsY6QWsCa6s6ZIT6P59qMPXsX6B9hbN-bP4J-EOyqKm-O_M9nEeysq1xuQsnpWoyz_uKXW9Vaq3Fr_bhZrRqKYKT1Qcy62KX0WplVmDBvti0dGmixIocpZVIkqeZ-ZleVkNnw9gShNZSn470sEZiNZ4WpnKAjw-rb1nIBft7Qg5UuNw=w1500-h765-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kXUOtegLivOywTheaKJLkx0XE1cOSMW1eMOtX3cxiWyYRd3W9dOqWBbuRmCDr1qM4lvz5FtIryNgZEHZhH36vbSLtZIpvKNxiAKeVRgB429hXGw269ugn0fjkemZk4XAGknM4hRv9p2pgFkzXqknlC1DA_VBkhkv3ucaUug1_ia9_hbOgt89Bh8i-pUna68ILXku1L3fDlY30C5du-j7z4mo_EuvlhjDH4rouGvuJicqotTIxB2XqVRUj9hVMXDMaEuU5wMfnu1Qdm0z-sniw9Oe5b8Na2peEvIkr3xpdQitwPvdVMSEEpFPjvc1Xxp9kDedZG_iqSIC2LTPHugbav-t2gUcZC6qr49_ov-2UhonV-rdsHS9fKHSswcUHTlp-QZPRoF6GBuY4tKZNqy6a9XLrHsjnA-7Q3wKTalrmncr2wlzTOTWFpZ3HObNYXiDp4BYvTfENqvCi7v4frCYAmyCUmYRto9SDGtw3LvKRWx-ai-Q592nsDlCFV2F-QDjUAofGs_Bm48cZLGj0I3M19VkBaIkkbVui13UykgsICTMW8UHrn70szmgBm8553zMrlQrB0YJNB5ZiJglafMjPCU0Kk5WyN1MnLnQJs3-JiudOefzupWnTMH_X04cAI5SFXfQMuUPOTkJWQEwwrwhWRQWntDrERptiAKZHVbny8Kw5cQt0OOvBKwI4bYdNpeHVh_SMFgqn0K5_uByDu7KxtSNRw=w1500-h608-no?.jpg)

The side no one will ever see:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9leAxaRAH7FLwSpF9QRiRyO694ARWU6WJ_zjoTgMC5L08pGI5pn2HRTriED_CASQF38iQuTvrKyHLxm7GoA2Pueuxzj3jpk6AFPAEdse3ETTtsf7tzRvKbrB3DjT5nhy9rV52YBRK9F45ieQ4-RQwVGJFFQ13jt3d8mcYzkVuzUfUV7u4IKJCfLNXvZviUHSA7Lgx6mhRgUD9Gtw-6CVHfkBv2Xw5V54C-QmgY5S3sj1bM8Y3FhfZ7a3Z7GKXIEyKklW9wUG86exUs8lNttSACZb_ZqvNg3hLk33BCtdDcbFZgFB81pHyPfSSSpLfLgpz1-T1ogDJlkPpeK_zIuRSjHDOxc_jusWrTnuiLO0GzTM5kJKz2peMQitu-OIrEXaPqWwzuo7-f_3RDScdFHcP_GTq7XTtwWpsCSKcphjL93k25c6P9diVKUA0AMnFl4TSUdi-craOIle7mTFaewla9nDUduc98bg19JdvhZhJ6UcBdcdhZaR-DabWBAAJxNVWcHtnZM1Uirdg_pHHwHqWa1kRUWrKyINin30GZHGchpsUASww_oBr0aWalrlT5Je-_1owb6gDWvoE6TGBIo11mvnt7npg2VmlurUNs2GSYKBmvpegXreRA9LrCpSAlh-Zp7ipnsqnYlEQk8I-sYtcMKnTrVAgcyoKpw9v5WlVaws5jK6BlqqjkzrsR739wrwp0OXzSL26A-IYOyGIHzQHDzemQ=w1000-h631-no?.jpg)

And look, stuff is turning green:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Glq5u2tXIMa8L_HsFAeBIuUvwhELH4ekf8QpE_qS3pS1F918gGuUqBRCGSE6IjIHUgkRwEQ93BpoECSWgcXRQdAfV_7SZip2PDf6UA_2lp0FEmc9GksD2zMwdTmvAPQzhhS1JTTQYxE7aBUqxTiQWzolgj9HBPwG2sYY1etjBO5Wf2-DfeNI1eEy6j8hrTonPZzOw6tDJl370NeOgALB9-VwTifN8-IKfqdB5J0qX5VPf1N7XAeUMLmE-JRah-Jlx0qKMAZRjGxLF5nRUWBMcBFibSISgyzLU9Lj8km1gfvvVbRfATFPHUhhyYrG4Z3PsMNqJ9_ut07VcQu3ayFXDB6Ctkh7GOvtjI8R1SrnUAYRTyqis9e2eLsz2Vwdrtf-sgD0sAMD0hx3CxR9f7bMeMdZ1LKzs2S69QTFFnQyiSzBid2XHU_ot1SDsEJsGmbgCwUjOLgihwtOUiEpz4cFic7RrFpz0pRXmW85K-5qC-qnW4hevtKbZ8HeYBiF_KoX67nDCuucdhAB0qUc4rs_QeST4auHVOoTOVuDzOaWDxHCfuKk5ICSoVR79_tjpInrvgS_UNds83xzsR2UOdbKoHv_GrAT5rJeSqSSGjohHTuXsNdv-BdHwieTfwB7HSHCby4wRJdGCsQJYhUuzMJ1rrwai6wsHKxDkPJ7-gePFB8Gic3Y9_GDF6fTNslG1Tq8eB95hfLi_A3VmXcX8usyP2jLzQ=w1500-h526-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yTOz78SNQ8tDhTaRwhbu80vfRDjWrTq3-9zjYzP87Yt7LnWNsRZal_lflkW586STV5M_HiKWBCS31BQYUO2G6XIwwNJyg-TSlkwDE9pCnzyeDucc73OS79SvWs8UTszbUtqmMtr8AHK3oLOTSlkaqrqnVqTFMxnEE870NyB8707PM8ooOFBYRIp8VLjNLSafrC3TArukv8axKkAbZ5IqaVVHvSm-uPYj8bZJ6ZGBIhyOlMBVp0kjkft4hJ_VL4G5-NEbZHx4pZ93Amx6SWSMYQ9bZSoPqe6Ro9CZ4MX9xu1uKzuRkrZI_k8HX1EjZwmWJ2z02Xq-gDaFJnR1oKNAm5KVdGkjOnBHcTg0EnET4OTjX8xStr26TTMh-h8uMvYoB3Fps0q4J7YL7fCpeaUzLG-_0NWhPfhNcNWCiUYpNRuq-jSvnqD23FN8AYS2V3tuRoObaT0JGabYX0xQ9Mp10ZIrinWMEga0atJGTQDfNbYlJ9Fzv8OAXtQU9652SOgMlRHzLB--TNIainWhP6PFdy7dELPGsUbIJ4c88U0OVR0i0VxHDwqupD60SNtaUxoYTJSES0ju0_lMnoVouSO3JnjVNnJy-Sazm8KH81oskV52YAsljwQzsq3JJREqvieNNu3TpalVGPX4ldFuXQ3NjMR5mQqVPgKKQNikFFqBRXfiyLAgb1zAKgeKkuw0hkaVwxyNXJA8DHzNqJM1dYTCdzma1Q=w1500-h692-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on July 29, 2019, 06:14:34 PM
I just hope this magnificent little layout doesn't suffer the fate of so many others... (as if I should talk...)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on July 31, 2019, 08:13:41 PM
Chris,

The engine looks great as does everything else.  I really like the little station.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 31, 2019, 09:53:42 PM
Hey I still haven't started a new layout yet  :P

Caboose is done:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uFJlU_uYaLNOPciCKcWzjvHyNRyfM0Zq5wEDkeHTsfhMxQSODbOB_hPjKBo6GTA4fsoE4dPONWUfxFrK9UA2SAzzUkyoNIPqEacae-7e9MAQsQRxAg6KKPjuPqvSo6lM4ucnILTTn2FRnOyOPv33bsA4iQjpWUIrNekT4wWO4d4GMOdnUdmaJHGljRvQpQJikAsX6EZFqx0Rk_gNTJj1RbUG8vkWonxakry0RFEPypUocASdEmIVOL4Hpevjw55nBwBB-9G6FIMJ3f98CMvvDxyaw9anCFSOLS4-apd10HU9Eemqnral4lkM9PA3sVrjcuBontZb35N31VG1y9fYsZfs-L1w4AD_BFpqxYFDR0rp50VjpuKJm_dgA7dN8Wd14zIwAMRTvfovUUdPvI38h3Ks22VYbWYGPNzD47ShObjFTvx_D-yAhc8-EDFzDROdlGA8cMyRKhtoSuuGLQ1ELZSDvnfIsrRVMg3b-gzNBSAkr_HaimQAQmC-5jpj2c2vIKXxhhxZTZ1P8VTocF2xcfVybkr07yOJivCDgwvCpkEclukTZijOvs45B7DvI5LzfrrYio3vyevUYK8NvkBfGgLtRJ0bswgNzi6t2lwycDvRYRt68UevftrVRyrWh5eW_IOFOmDcEgPHsZbOYMQfURXgDGsqBwJk0Of8bk3jOqrbtmJlzxx1FYaCy6O52cqy2skFpZ87fcNY8zj4yE49g-YNBg=w1398-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XZMNRaaHkNWVSosJhGZXWI9qPvwgUKhja5APjvvFvH8-lIcPxXmHWIsQA4V6cb84kEQcTiNydYmv37zi9Kc4OmNnvYjXBgrG11OjNaPah0lYIk6_Bhc3BQ1FWLXMA_Jvr7hdDzZhIlTPnvFRT04BpAhUvSo3DBwIUMxuKRbE8E-HQJ7HxSxLafpKdkTyDQZfijMinpwSqd6WlVJFDq_IwvThVWt2uqNbTGvdG_kgI_davOvq5CQX5fbay8y3I1CaUAaqq3tfkpxvzBdQEwqxXBqZmjd-8XghHdWOodBEbLgyRe1GChpe8ivZX-Bsoke-ChW6ncA_t7nRZH3BaBJsj-e1vNs15mjXn62KYaVcQg143j4fDhCbeKSpGr5xcZiuvrk8Ik7iS3DqjScaoXjUT9emeZi4Al68694xo3anQJkI5fmEVFyn5fBflXeZ6otO2rK8NZyfJVcUP_xXLP-MoxqaTgJpS-uyBPE-xVAagYr_e5W-wJ_bBmWIAYSy3ZJIS9xQu0iQIqCIxMrWGY0QRMPCRtue4rEzuTtWbHneZyiC_FiJrtxDli1YsKDicKdkmKegAHYuXYjESs2VagUgEinEHyX-0NBD9nWeijr0tZmhB04uVE39zYuGlxIte_RK6ZQIR_zxR0Ogf363OlBjGQpTXVEmqTN2q_pVGGS8F3utc8G3MoGTzmTbg1uTN_VaASD2sU-TJJBjnhLxpvwOY_brtQ=w1500-h822-no?.jpg)

The depot "dark hole"
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Mi36E4CxMTEvIDgOgeGlxwrrFHopqHg6H7cWmZuN8L54W-OGyoxUzSEVewG09Pe1esglvYAB-j_fGtwR4OIk8GhkKnKhkBXsNIQw2apiI4jTkRpAecOfDlVUxNexLzm1BVhnZlZ6BeHWPF5B0HUCJ54309dx8jITOaN9Zf7GJgNjWO0W3oGiiqeSA9iThXXYBGW41sDEMeAc5viBG40_0IPlDMd2rshA_DloVEOKXocchB98vrw0RJ7XeXKo1u3iokWwEPkXDeBe_A4MKP6axilNR_rTIQsQHBA-DWN4GjtcvmedNHDTMzF1oxm7WF6gBXuhdHA-6v8sb2PjuE1494ksmXC665dKrma7qkgdYvk9DZ5_Qgw2_WwDINSqlN48aMlbtQc9BrzSLg0tFMG8uvajGgar0OUSCdCoVvhlx9fXBAbfYyVQo3KhxupE0CzLccNaHzokY5sLZOfGTAAcGZr6f9RwlZX8DK1kLstAuhDZ2AaDYwTxHxbJwj6TUG4x59mQi6hUfptFDBr2RDC0HkZGF6AnQC4Hckik8l0Gm_HYp6MRXQew7A5ULNR47l6sLyM96IuXErcekeRNUwqUMBMmQ93AXDcSwc9a5YUkH_axmuGkbI8uGouJ5DLylArqdyu0l7YozXS690JH8TZV5G1FMEQkN__UJT8ysjlEGud1KxZkUvyVXZL-bHwu6AinyCy6NuEK-RCSURreA0AGueKnYQ=w1500-h670-no?.jpg)

And just because
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Jbub on July 31, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
Hey I still haven't started a new layout yet  :P


I think this is the longest you've worked on a single project since I've been around.
It's looking really good!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2019, 12:00:44 AM
These photos move!  Think my phone case is what keeps making all the popping sounds  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 02, 2019, 05:11:19 PM
Another 2 cars down:
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Oivs079WD2c-5ogx-zqJQHYjwpsWysU35oPR_cJ1YO_mcj0fbfhqWfydFkeoAebe00ILCOTlTlLaBwMZ3DFuOq8Ij8QgufbzAGOazp0Y0u1FF8zmRXKlyeV94fLNgU4NPbacdm7HZI-h1x7IL6ChlZ45FSMS80bzhrMW9zAWg2Hx1etxzeJ_9ko7ful-c6quhqwaZRD4bT15ki93KNQqtIbcJrgRg2_Q7l-nxu7YsgUs8jy-_wPgf69-x2Py7OrmlazaOpBQc53vsUaks3YaVXq6Le_FEcYlhWjRzxK-xq7pEOBsHzfjY1HMUaxrfk4cGp2vjhRX0UgJtRGUYSox5b_IfoUaUpfq50zsHxSS9vU9ABb4u-Jqyc58SNwXEL6hFZc89fzp3BoKDiJWokF6xaE2puO2bPx6Z3uAt4cK_YESIgaUks96a6ubKaUSN1NSFDvAysBkgyl8R6PdsqvP84AnMDuuZRzYedkvKKkPbSOQEOU_UAbZkJi8kzZER-tTfxXuhFo7XCVZOv6jDxwR0pW_JwUSKgIS3QkhuC6t-Diq7NwuWnI9QwuzX5VZW4ZO1bIfpRP6XhwHnxzSNJt2We9rj_mT5NCdpLw1KUhkHJLU8n2iE0tuFGDyIOe2NAIjxekbWh_EN-eDUDSmHPkgnrld3ROLkiA8aAylzj6WiGuiMuxsOqrxugO4wFRaYMeInB1K3DGqNVwtyBSWHd7L_9t1Zg=w1500-h474-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TwneY40-3HsPdccNBw8qNNEKMDIBZtVbAZGiSOGC0oAIKRyl-VFuEVmxA-ITePr0oRAt5522DrET4a5Hyjqs6HP8wmfwcyYEUChQ98kCPOEp9Xo4q761cXncPT-LmY2Zz2Xze0k-18qwQvbQ_7KjR7kMwjkCGybx3Ze8ub486fXxkj1kJsTHI8yGSzA3DAOWRbrVGskLqsITCgo2fuD2gcG3and4hI6mrhh5BAMXRrY0A1DOKmRQY4iD8e_IfkP9RfW3vcG9ubdDFewtw6Gsnrc0eJGey4EDxAUer-jVI7dUYj1mzNlbSZkJN-jSofKqVuuh3zWSimKJmefUCX_7UQUFvMp-zEWrQK_UBrRU2DrWKQXPenS6xAKrPL7FgYoTKJ1DvPOfH2DKlikIiRbB8AInVu23Op4DBMpoHnHQzt4R7U4KrHQTCU0kMmSixrsU9I930SwFU3cKyxzZOQ1C8rQzwCASmytSaYfUHwe4spI_1V9rawGBw9QcYDegSIbtk2AQI635zSvR7UfLMYZOmQjFynOMx5ZHy9ENY5-mKg6Y5mDEq7yvPr-BQxH9UdrfCq4SrOg9BtJMJWNgh4G59ThvbtH-hg8dhhyfZFYdDyQ-yJpG2ftINUjOSCJM8jHxOnz5g1dr49hUsD5UPN10mZo44wI559MlXdrg6z0tbrpinfxgSEdh_rqK0WLVrQ74xFmX-pZxeGrQVevKuKkWE9MATg=w1500-h527-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 03, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
Shameless plug/repost/plea from the trading post:

Quote
Looking for Fox Valley Models wide tread 36" metal wheels. They are part number FVM-3610 or FVM-3610-100.

I use these 36" wide tread wheels for HOn30 and I'm all out. Maybe someone bought a hindered pack and has a bunch left over?

I'll take however many you have  :D

Thanks
Chris
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 04, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
This road out of town will disappear into a few trees and hide that there is a big waterfall right on the other side. Replaced my foam mock-up houses with these from Blair Line. I should have just made them in styrene, but oh well. Changed them around a bit and added 3D printed "stilts" with bracing. Probably put a fence around this yard with a chicken coop.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5zt9RCHE2fal_A8IhiLC0J_enRBlIfH5vwlrh6hQ8XZ1Jvf3V6E5jZNAxLwGVFSeRddLsiY6fQy7-WP90PR9JzSfAX_DBTCNkmlMQLUpw3PgTz9GLsefp2x4qVfxhikzy8Mn5achjGhoomNKM0pRjIAaUX0TXIFLAWc4JEXvIYtdBF_SLIwbIifk-V20bLneyVg29MjIUQm79NIytOCzJKyf_kIwqjGAQnXznkw0nASy3s9YDdIQ4IUmgl35jaIo3NKXFDwq69Vrk12nXX-5_jVGunjJVETZMuBUHuxBuEWlOe6CfdDz7YOiH2drkeQlhMLTg8kqEVVSC10OMe1s8AytRjEFhL9qioxKtGpZFvfqtcV7_9JoUCBVWkxfr9bBVfw1xZQTe8bJ2zRmHKbIX0EjTkixZOSursZGoQTzShdc-AdM5jz-grwFwzOzEZx08-0WB95Rx-Nv0cOLxVPoCkEZ7hH_eLG2Dxn8mx30NJL0q6xfwA_uf80CwM54RGWAs4aFzJ153m7o4jHlpd-bDprTd4oimv7lmOKfnaa7UJu-CwBjtzPa1r1MDerZdi1XBfbehM2uyXN72TzM0URs5-ATfDxI0YSjzWqdiEcbDWbG2DInFoaqG7fJiuK5UZ_cKPEEot7dfYDIiTm37TEAiPMSdQ5hHSnPaNi10AoWCWi8JaSLrjXkvC4D_PODtEXI4tHHjNejHzKwFFzPpnRZn8tUmQ=w1500-h881-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8arBxASwnZCbyyaNDcg458OGQvXTvK_VTb-0A0OQBYOI8s06lgmpzK47BGlIvhrMmmidzI_5UwsIa9P97VZViUbgN9Lo8_z-xVSmy-uGMT4-uRTA7IK98YrRKn2zYCYEyUBtAwSxvM_nbXGz9fH_vVTTyhgE4t9NnpcCTpKrU38Ga700qUrNOS52QG0QQxd5uE1qb-7xFkaiOyPirHJ9keGXUU-SnvIxYgtiXrvQmDYo-yG81ph2k3BdzOT6lBKSrTeHQpXJrZJmz13vMXIQJCuT8_mAfI3RYQcxQK5LQ-fWhyL-xOE6trv2C2uqRXTqnwfpKsUp21ecEeWCU6LJ4dtZt6NFHVrQh_IyWaApfzZozAZ6nP7S3aKVA-V096rt1CMdQeUeuVrOf0BuV9vUv2K41LgYGDc6CFm8TrgfgCuop6hvjbgRSjVrmKk1lfsR4VfW0nMm-6iVPfLpIsP9N8ZnK3eE9OCHs8goBXe0bJkNGyo4eH87WQ0d7wDttJbc3ree2bFpKeEklE33WsvZqfIsgpY6hkB9IOlj_0zuHiN6bElJ6aa_yJTlFOc22ub1TqO9GMU-I08I2U5K3eSdEqCCGq8Gu44CixUdfAKh0bEoD_0Jrc61FQSV4ZZ8Ki7t1NdA7y69-rVe8xej9SJ2gbWycj83bXmlzawg--vdBjzYL53awraPTLEzm6pigrxpgBT_AB2z58dNL2OZK3pF8gWWWA=w1500-h789-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 05, 2019, 05:43:37 PM
Now in Technicolor  :P
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wLaV53sUbzu45zBHUPoRYhOI1tRmK-bNoSQTe1LoYSdf5aQ7yLMItt-3_N7c-kwX3Z1oGSExNux8VCKDbSX34oOlYTPofqq12zzw2zbMBhIECbVoPOrbq_i3B0K_rOD18nQAy6Rk98GAnwnK5Cb3s15TnytPaZ7QNZf55_0K4Wl1wX6gUT9GCYRhDVkL5TGb9g74rxH1rpwQEB7bEo8U7dsxIrGQSXHPuYpOj0UvYYZo7PDkTbJZHxe4RrQWevl_CtyTzyYDOw_tlIQHGtnPKF5xgnTqvNGGH0ohcAJam398HOVqCDalLmgFTzLYflxKrbaRHMMmK8mTPKp_rwbZoHXGEQNJEuaqfrBu8oR4lwBc79D7T4LxIo8O1nMGVhGaC7JhS6Aa_OxHJB-uP3tpq8_PRWh5H3Bu4iNTD9LcmJ-no677VDRr7plgjLBDQzYfPULjxb3pmcl9_MW4wGQRFycimXh1junQcPmvjMabOepI9xZY1ajvqTZ55j3aiCoxjAJusD5XUKQL2sWqYhSSrL2wDKSQMS-RUvTz5wJMdfiqeT41xoTBoyqP8a63tJuVqtNy0NFVIQV28p4omR5sSCEYcJ1Q6Yr7inxEEZfbyPYNWhF3bjnrIuugIXwKHfP2guD-FGcC99nLq04GiwMPys9X_jjdFZhazJZzdHUYebRothYiSIT3t-xsc5w5jndnVgtRitFEJg5xnCvuH8gjk3kSeQ=w1238-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ajXKumsxvts6Y5D-OtEMtZ9ozSwlKgallhS6LkxdzOVPWfqbnJAg4RP0suSn06JIwzjjYG9JbeEcWL-7gvTIybzyK0IorParKxEXvxYXmVfrBukjoC8d39R-bpjfBYxB9vQ7bnH7BaWehkk2hx3V2yxKBUbkGpRwz0IZYFhjLl5ozniq6vz4xfT05ckv9lpAfXZJd1w7BLPaux1tEruegzfFcyuo4_XIZprJp8k9twwSCwuHTcAmLnnDoaub8RQIczyOFxm8_xN62KRUPa0YdSJcS5Q8VtjS8mCedffCVOqUHQLnxrf_V3rFxXay012fkLKqBbjx4s7VhoH3oChBh1FWQ-EyTsK2Hih0-YFaVhzQeEMY8DtFXm3B_blfW2_-fm0E_1AUOWTZCzTsaPtvnLa8jotzDw2BBky_ZzJGpZrt3N2rvscb7k3Ir2YKYa-jEJWhQtHRxfBhEAc8HR2oAClrOYKdaRUaMiZzxk9CdAGu5BZoUvRoqiXesic-vP0XwPwbrdjw5Pw3VsIB5tqKJWlQ2huTq0Xqinov_EaUNrFLIy3brdWptcvIa59tO6Z_hPyB8b2A80MrtyF05IQDP107UmPRrDE75w3UIIIS2g_Fohw-TPt1h7QHGcxQDURfjckUt14TFXWPGtTfhm8BCmRVnn8uHjc_7Rssm9_R1cxJl29zXAKKEBO2aiH2R6TEOMOE9kLPfstDk4lOZ8I6-l7cPw=w1500-h905-no?.jpg)
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 05, 2019, 09:40:10 PM
Just sort of curious more than anything Chris, did you design the foundation of the one on the slope, sloped or did you plant the posts in the foam or just trim them?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 05, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
The back half you see has posts that go about 1/4" into the foam. I drilled holes for them. This way I didn't have to trim them all.

Used the same 3D file for both houses. Cut the back off the far house and used it for the near back porch.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 06, 2019, 03:04:45 AM
Guess a pic is better than words.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1MoN_SwmC8yJoW4RkkOkjGS3-uKnjHF5a7FcR4ByimE5EoQANa3HpTfouJbJbbYF13jVz8GxjSfrJ0j0oF6qT13yE2HQlINX0d3_8RH2mP6wVVY18Fbrte7tVJbUmzbJQRJwKdRE83qxdtg8mZS6WF_YH2eVf9ycZ1zQkUAOgK-kK1b6c10WZHbYGhZo8VvYcXIsN79D7WmlZptOdlYeQLgDWxT2lcMHDR-Ozm5JX77516tQbT_VkJjt8jcv_DtxAjZnupyGbMYiinAt46hUByTd5VEKiBlOleL6XzX78BYyVSxOA7y6tphtxYFLwahYNpIsrOdS-5er1jM3nLrUx5MxmqsQROl0yNI16OTzvfxN4XYNS9XoW2b3lP0MD0U9PLfC2kbjoxvSSJ6QTfvLCoRpML6DpPChjYkPYfMALjHSezQiTSsMXXhly6KiA3-3DVGzivfOAT3AxdPBd9ggWypXmoXvNF4iWTPrXoBRVhFyFTX4cg0EPmuUSDLdNJaZc4hxoiM83hDTF1piTlJ6igKAuRROboLopGmToWxiHN7ggkljCfbiYSeZa4Q-Hf_Eqyi_2SSSLm_CgbYyJUgend7yUkCrm1BdpYmZSZ_DJ410sg2aQyFWCoKC3MrGF1pH5XXL3glchoRh8XDIwvxQt3uwCVduxcUJR1cNVUGlbMSgvBF8MzTiHkc_D9jH7wfxM5x001Sjp1_yEye84RKuU56NBg=w1500-h835-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2019, 02:06:42 PM
Running out of space, but I wanted a section house. While I was at it I added this tool shed/pump house.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eDI_futjGTAac6Sm8ftUIS7h3i8_9Zz-PLq0db9QyXx5qg-CbzFca6IaqpynQ-rEqJ8Wid7E_NqHSOaFZhM11bTn62ugQDk1TtgcsgnX7qNrVR6YCe-N-b7BOMJUJpTMwudX6LoW9GYbkf4Z-6KpvOQr0U787AqHXNXH5Wr7hVGA5JTzS97PzszDk2hs8UFDDSVv2IYVx9Q_2F0G_sIawabunHdaAycddhgf_Sly4k8lhCP2Bgp5c15hM1WWlyfuSnUuv3Cw0LE1QXs4De6mCZkFD9HYd64ojkThRQvPnhz5oxNDJhbyD0hLFXO7XIsIcVW4X3AK3Q1iG6O4S1DonlPlR_9LwcXoEgA7Mak5FMkeN6AASN2U_1SVikHaxrpYnHmy6Bht-fCdIG5a3zHHDaGKldlXAA668O39CGNdr9i9DHj7kiY5DZ2fCySn_ySSkCylVJacqXJYCrnabrFH5JZ6B9O0okvtLl1DhsgHLNWVMGLHVyyMlE9ti43CtpqugmAo_OyERS9U4D1_gLkBMKH6FRFt3eA1Anx7jameaR4FswL3uBpPOuUH4qC_ZLoGt5ArqnpkqsYib3T0A2ABOV4qekHGEr1STFtfDf1OUZBSp2Afo1jlMMjtE8PWOJm_VgWp0-s91H2aBK4aUVgWi2AO8Be5A0Fj8RmboZ5ZxEdYL5-ikwaB-EWJSjyNkuzDX0Lny7ByDa1tywoRy3yswYunow=w1495-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sUrW_SMwtXUmu-8MA_mRHw9I3nunfyv7iOgdRcEJi7S7kTy9ff4ZW-TVnIaXYHldGBXOeAW5ze1aY3fdtUYOY7ZCEzTnDcxZu7G54l3V1cBxr526OSsmfzMhhEJkwGNfFz8fS1VpuL1L1B5EmpFnFye5K0E2dOtygiVt-bquSJobYRt2CNyvJNn4thxMVr3Gs7nY2SgS1pwNlAWlyRJMjFG1wI_ZxcIeWeFD83sfCqBT2Be13CMlksfv4sfIvdJzknVqKh8gsspHNAbrswphlbuU7FpiobP7qKHGJ17wI0-sIB7bBZnX1Fh4nLF_yoHwF2EjgGsrD7bm_p4ElYVag_rSk-JLEkZj0I31DEfcyaiLj0u8tq2UP0f4xXcMLjGvWlRM-q6a3Tbtsm57GYSWSATe8is7-u8W7Xn_9jcgV7CX7wAGTlKqbKljbm8FI2H3rSbIq_hW-JCtD9T5giqqY0bMiQ393Q74iikF92OFClUMODzoo5TnDD9CBzgwLHoXJYPVov6Tw9s3FfiCYKOM-aC6xgzIXjigilnGjPOYtwXalcPqcEwHYOdgINIY4NcmNri58ytp9beAqRLhiMay95A48ATAp6AMLQPkgFgwHUG5T-he0pWkn5bVpMg2z5OQ8WGDTF5mWYhtc0f1ba-8lJWhhAsy0Asay7X5mOIntC0L8Rw3Z11sZwasI3cc_BGbkZ0qSS3FCzzmKc2Oi5E_LlqWBw=w1500-h858-no?.jpg)
And I made a smaller caboose
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4DQLR5Rqs3QdTQXBcPMcYKOYQOhd3OJwWZhJ-kMEhCfZVBOKbS3gzfigmN5R1T8YpOoTKJNun38Xu7FgBHSClYdB4QhNMIZ1iHEkSLcQMQ0BiwAa3x55zq5J_W835ZK6kLETKcvLpLfKW4Nhbhqe5totdo1AgD_wDGklIf-J7MT0sfdGjIdd962v3wM0e0b6-sKqh4Z5JM65sysrCiSMFORrTrmfWu97AzJZ1J0eiLlsj673eM7xPd4e342aZtiijDYfqpw7AKczz6VNqNfkSfvmRNA8QbLQq6lHuQvRu8vVPsD0Dsz289A-wuI8mZGFDxo9HUtBBIQUMQ71Y3PWj0R8CYNNoewKMLnge1DqBbFksPGcysIlRvSL7xHrO1Yj1Lbv0KgnqOYzKEipNd2GlDx-YYBXhk6GQWQCGHO4Rm3Fq-Hi9YUTrCpJ1Yfnw5Bz-Ey_dnMKsYJaxwKo7p-wjt-WN7GrH26sK0hr4vjKT89k6dXu-b_VfUXTAUi0U7M04cu8Me-1kOQbJMVbnuPoKUvx0ziZFkmX6aTZBO7lFQrWct8StCNB-hI4NquQA6Moqsrk-9lhwjTnK2dTppv1UyTXS8p_AmmWKrCH1onRedHrSIw1U5oORv4Mu6BGipEB6rbIFHv6_-f_GijWLNTPm-xpwmgViP6tWyUY5KHNMUE_zx-ter9t6dQEXEggleqUR_pWuZmljhgRyZKdhZ4kKn8zYg=w1252-h938-no?.jpg)

And these cars are cast in resin from Chivers Finelines of W.W.&F. passenger cars. If I can get the windows cleaned up better I think I'll build these up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9l9ICX-Z_PinQhVuoE1_cTl73WCR_nB1trYkW4_opx5VyD37O9zzNGnun3yfTMtZm67-5aozx856T0OEcGDKGNWKfRMK3ZKrSNGJalhg1HtkPx6oxmZ6P_HSQjAtfK0dIip8dXkSQEmLLW3_mn8Z-vGP5I5hIx1AptCoNw4fGKMHAGeBm89oQvyxzdzP4QQ-jQ2tfpHikQLjiXI4DIwhkH2haz4Hypg0X1nnDbw02dvpwO71byi3qp-facnXJRHb609uH1AkI9kkdfXZfyIxBnLMbReeNs2tpb36znYBGKq9VLrWI0xIqq7bWnxESJW6uvU26wB95nqyRw9oKi-iBgyY6uS6OcI5m7FKybj3Y_1-IsNndaxFFuAKhcuxqQl6_b5UFria2G7Af4B4zhFIDBhQGsJPc9HzwevANeshWbk9is0vt9Y9SORkYDMJDJBOx7903405YYVYh5At4Jha9fPDNznYOpvUAguAjHxHg_FJqQVjXm-oeyFBDvsARbdYqPIAe_klZg7zo8bq5pdTLMx7o6aINTlhvTAXMrb8VfVjGMqygrnx_TE_p5eS6qmS5DnlU2hAY9s13fc7x_ISu8oVrOEq56FBGOfJ4iJUcTz6tjz32PtW49eh9PeepZnWvT-QFzb0vKZILsjXG3Fbn6vKUFdY-JsPuFGVH2_jDUI03l3sB2FWMZFmFxhbSdmYC12i37QWrT80RoctbbwML4qPww=w1500-h374-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on August 09, 2019, 02:29:03 PM
That tool shed is a D&RGW standard plan for a coal shed, modeled after the one at Rico on the RGS.

It all looks really, really good.  I especially love the passenger cars.  They will look amazing behind your 2-6-0.  Going Pullman Green or Tuscan Red?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2019, 02:38:29 PM
Yeah the tool shed is from Design Tech, their speeder shed was a little too big for this area so I made my own.

Want to go green with the PAX cars, assuming I can file all those windows straight.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 09, 2019, 03:18:45 PM
The best thing I like about your layout is you contoured the land, then you fit the buildings into the landscape by using post foundations where required. One thing I detest is where buildings are just plopped down on the layout without being worked “into” the layout... if that comment makes sense.

Well done.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2019, 11:24:05 PM
But the fun part is getting them level  :|
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QtHsg2QwZicYAJd-CZZte_G63oW0F8kYoKAHFPhmZvUmX7_Rpy83--i4i290JwSYfhqq7z6kxJVUYWOXS5lqhsM5AqGwH3K4v3WIx3wInI6ASYl8dWNlwtu5z_W1RyGqoK2pMNiL2TPQZmTPmMcHiP9roEwU2WEEaJoujKjhk7n9DNAjSrVnNLNPxBuDSvP4ugW6QuVKpkcie1u6tliJq3JQhhNO-0YGgCpY7ux6wopab7BB30QOlJz2F7KZy3wRKCFi4pMe64-xyVomRHgE2cHDkR7H1VWIAQEn2-y2jRkmHvdVr73oucGgr3dAdRhkoIMeNEmbDeJNEC-sKsqtfCMB0YaZiTD0xRmzXlmaakghfSuGGz4bLE29b9xrGmkIGN2nN__eEFvAmeb1QaIZ8Kei9eJ7NuD9hDsY5l9uyKMpkMRsbXK6s4djRVrBOEzfxPC1S2KIeCk3Y3NNrqJC-7xVlyqnswH3hVvCls81sppetgj_uiQjDT1BT8MNRZ31-sBnkM9-T8-7mB5vT5xwb1uJ_-J7DeAguJi6AgIGi5tNQvbcqa3VOzJ8I9Hmd_jaJRJFdaTQoznTDGmm3WgO9nzlzVf_5AQhN2A5PTMfRAX7_o9VDqkzKTIyPpWxPIBt59W4rrYYDk0kRdxLrvqTaAiiDPmLdSlFLQ3KJG-OkloqRCDwzNapDEK2GIL0RTuWNSPz7BbRK1RlWTe4HRkFx066PQ=w800-h641-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on August 10, 2019, 12:54:20 AM
Oh, just like the real world; what a concept :D
Nice work, Chris!
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on August 10, 2019, 07:20:35 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QtHsg2QwZicYAJd-CZZte_G63oW0F8kYoKAHFPhmZvUmX7_Rpy83--i4i290JwSYfhqq7z6kxJVUYWOXS5lqhsM5AqGwH3K4v3WIx3wInI6ASYl8dWNlwtu5z_W1RyGqoK2pMNiL2TPQZmTPmMcHiP9roEwU2WEEaJoujKjhk7n9DNAjSrVnNLNPxBuDSvP4ugW6QuVKpkcie1u6tliJq3JQhhNO-0YGgCpY7ux6wopab7BB30QOlJz2F7KZy3wRKCFi4pMe64-xyVomRHgE2cHDkR7H1VWIAQEn2-y2jRkmHvdVr73oucGgr3dAdRhkoIMeNEmbDeJNEC-sKsqtfCMB0YaZiTD0xRmzXlmaakghfSuGGz4bLE29b9xrGmkIGN2nN__eEFvAmeb1QaIZ8Kei9eJ7NuD9hDsY5l9uyKMpkMRsbXK6s4djRVrBOEzfxPC1S2KIeCk3Y3NNrqJC-7xVlyqnswH3hVvCls81sppetgj_uiQjDT1BT8MNRZ31-sBnkM9-T8-7mB5vT5xwb1uJ_-J7DeAguJi6AgIGi5tNQvbcqa3VOzJ8I9Hmd_jaJRJFdaTQoznTDGmm3WgO9nzlzVf_5AQhN2A5PTMfRAX7_o9VDqkzKTIyPpWxPIBt59W4rrYYDk0kRdxLrvqTaAiiDPmLdSlFLQ3KJG-OkloqRCDwzNapDEK2GIL0RTuWNSPz7BbRK1RlWTe4HRkFx066PQ=w800-h641-no?.jpg)

Chris’s next post will be, “I was only working on structures, and now, suddenly, the entire layout is shorted out!”  :trollface:

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 12, 2019, 01:28:42 AM
All planted. The pump house is up on large (well really small) rocks for a foundation.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eliQ1lOeT1XXraTxWgK8cKxBwiDEJMOatSywRhiH8jfiCqHwBOX6QwOmHuAEpj6m6S6PptnVS9xKkqjMtAJPfL67q10Ulxr3e26WEk3VdB8VumvDXNaOw1U8N0oGiOulQvr3yts1Yhe4hzZpO9AcX5hU9HnOe3Rey4_POe-00DppZq1LGTF-wy9L7q56HJIq3E1TbWK19ABE7yBu27ncpRgx0CQRoK9gF84schhbw0NxjWQirGicdo-mFHzth9o6p4_2EKNEgjr9ju4EIqIPxmM0pgP_J5KIxqszPMRiC-7tyxKhYYT4Vl3Jr17lucrUXowTqqzdTkKILzrkPZUdfZ53Qyi4m5UjOh0pfcQdUANpMy5jo7jKG1Xmpydnn_w8A3yfEc3TjeK23dAX73D3JN-WaH3nb2eql4VEdF5zQ4-hh19E6pyHXrXA_nhsTNwg9EP61u_2oTs2ovCjDxazCwqOaLxRzToaI3my_ZwcGC-nzAWvLsDGXgtknFRgY471DtbGtQZk8gV-L4eN5IheLD2bmgempasm8BruovtvdxjAwHFvUMhVZ-aG7cVmb2M7slv6PWXXSOpT159THbv3F2Dohmk8l15-pTLRQlMfKFG0lrK8rh6DPV4mhae_nwyK97OIq90AcPXhltayxOazUTcCPINtQsodw-7R3o99M0uORCkyT6m9l6yzIUbg7dFgrVbwK2JLlngkSOnE9xIFRx62dQ=w1455-h938-no?.jpg)

And I did some more scenery under the trestle so I could add the side braces. This will eventually become the worlds first spider condominium.  :D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/goW_lm6rHKerEgMnR_mP6i2Uo8uHcS2zpxiCLPFV-LwGHb4O20Obyvcjk3VGRcrVREmlYb7WrmX5APOQ6J2ujXFBnhr5WHl5PJe4u_64BHYrxC9ne-IxeNeKFpGazNUpR68C32fgPwJ0d2NcNhiGF9qfBb1TQjQO-da9-2wIaiWPy3j7rcgTi6WY6suUqN_0aDvSBSEHzpV1hTd3u69PYyzJu7bOsNE5Ur-EVQh-qvzMYwchxPkNnoToeBrSOlFc-oere2waFGZsLSTudOnse6fld32JE24Jprhw-PHkv01yRvV7rWAKAQYxJx6KKn5qaiAKvIUFl-RNUGVPWBZeZOSikz56nHqBE0mX2lTxOPxC7Iuh1CBfjfowhQoagc2U1obxBolO4r_qG5ERZbsjhQxGL_CQRGJVL0mLZwuvQcrJkKo2PzbrMJKYmsoGLmShLq2TPX0Pq_Ad4BYVV4XQZI7BxffBhobq5C3s77rXiMPId1BfQQoQCnY0LyrNUaV-Q7_-2SKIufmO96LYgteLyC7p6_xPH2dvXk9cwpZZGAeICDzqPZ1Ifh3iZmUTkQzg_DFo9frTnikN1Cl9wWwP9SYh7t1K4pyNeXiRgR_1OhsCV1QjMpRvHKnBAWFrnkbes_vo8W9ssSM2588ERD1x9BbFYQcQOLhscO9GckWU_r_yYcdokyt3gnmFH_R3WRDoDqfQpJn5egjJAAiokObE2FmnEQ=w1550-h939-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 12, 2019, 03:25:19 AM
While reading up on the Waynesburg & Washington RR I couldn't find any of the places on a map because they were long gone. So I made up an online map of the railroad.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1ibeSfl3NNyIdCJ2IfquIhmqESVhe7COt&ll=40.04318511671076%2C-80.30432795001434&z=11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waynesburg_and_Washington_Railroad

Most of it's life it was ran by the PRR similar to the OR&W. Some of the cars were made at PRR Fort Wayne shops and some cars were the same for both railroads. Of course they each had their own cars they started with.

Interesting thing is the last steam train on the W&W was in 1933. But for some reason the PRR was worried about keeping the ROW to reach coal mines. So to "keep supporting the communities" along the line they standard gauged most of the line. They never ran "trains" on it after that only a small speeder and rail truck. It is crazy that they spent so much time and money on the ROW after they stopped running trains.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 12, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
This will eventually become the worlds first spider condominium.

Beg to differ. I've been building spider condos since before you were born... ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wm3798 on August 12, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
Reminiscent of the Ma & Pa.  That 164' radius horseshoe between Dunn and Penn Hill could be modeled in N scale with 12 3/8" radius track!

Lee
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on August 12, 2019, 10:46:11 AM
Beg to differ. I've been building spider condos since before you were born... ;)

And sh!t...  I haven't even begun to look under Hagerman Trestle on my Colorado Midland...   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 12, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
Running out of space, but I wanted a section house. While I was at it I added this tool shed/pump house.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eDI_futjGTAac6Sm8ftUIS7h3i8_9Zz-PLq0db9QyXx5qg-CbzFca6IaqpynQ-rEqJ8Wid7E_NqHSOaFZhM11bTn62ugQDk1TtgcsgnX7qNrVR6YCe-N-b7BOMJUJpTMwudX6LoW9GYbkf4Z-6KpvOQr0U787AqHXNXH5Wr7hVGA5JTzS97PzszDk2hs8UFDDSVv2IYVx9Q_2F0G_sIawabunHdaAycddhgf_Sly4k8lhCP2Bgp5c15hM1WWlyfuSnUuv3Cw0LE1QXs4De6mCZkFD9HYd64ojkThRQvPnhz5oxNDJhbyD0hLFXO7XIsIcVW4X3AK3Q1iG6O4S1DonlPlR_9LwcXoEgA7Mak5FMkeN6AASN2U_1SVikHaxrpYnHmy6Bht-fCdIG5a3zHHDaGKldlXAA668O39CGNdr9i9DHj7kiY5DZ2fCySn_ySSkCylVJacqXJYCrnabrFH5JZ6B9O0okvtLl1DhsgHLNWVMGLHVyyMlE9ti43CtpqugmAo_OyERS9U4D1_gLkBMKH6FRFt3eA1Anx7jameaR4FswL3uBpPOuUH4qC_ZLoGt5ArqnpkqsYib3T0A2ABOV4qekHGEr1STFtfDf1OUZBSp2Afo1jlMMjtE8PWOJm_VgWp0-s91H2aBK4aUVgWi2AO8Be5A0Fj8RmboZ5ZxEdYL5-ikwaB-EWJSjyNkuzDX0Lny7ByDa1tywoRy3yswYunow=w1495-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sUrW_SMwtXUmu-8MA_mRHw9I3nunfyv7iOgdRcEJi7S7kTy9ff4ZW-TVnIaXYHldGBXOeAW5ze1aY3fdtUYOY7ZCEzTnDcxZu7G54l3V1cBxr526OSsmfzMhhEJkwGNfFz8fS1VpuL1L1B5EmpFnFye5K0E2dOtygiVt-bquSJobYRt2CNyvJNn4thxMVr3Gs7nY2SgS1pwNlAWlyRJMjFG1wI_ZxcIeWeFD83sfCqBT2Be13CMlksfv4sfIvdJzknVqKh8gsspHNAbrswphlbuU7FpiobP7qKHGJ17wI0-sIB7bBZnX1Fh4nLF_yoHwF2EjgGsrD7bm_p4ElYVag_rSk-JLEkZj0I31DEfcyaiLj0u8tq2UP0f4xXcMLjGvWlRM-q6a3Tbtsm57GYSWSATe8is7-u8W7Xn_9jcgV7CX7wAGTlKqbKljbm8FI2H3rSbIq_hW-JCtD9T5giqqY0bMiQ393Q74iikF92OFClUMODzoo5TnDD9CBzgwLHoXJYPVov6Tw9s3FfiCYKOM-aC6xgzIXjigilnGjPOYtwXalcPqcEwHYOdgINIY4NcmNri58ytp9beAqRLhiMay95A48ATAp6AMLQPkgFgwHUG5T-he0pWkn5bVpMg2z5OQ8WGDTF5mWYhtc0f1ba-8lJWhhAsy0Asay7X5mOIntC0L8Rw3Z11sZwasI3cc_BGbkZ0qSS3FCzzmKc2Oi5E_LlqWBw=w1500-h858-no?.jpg)
And I made a smaller caboose
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4DQLR5Rqs3QdTQXBcPMcYKOYQOhd3OJwWZhJ-kMEhCfZVBOKbS3gzfigmN5R1T8YpOoTKJNun38Xu7FgBHSClYdB4QhNMIZ1iHEkSLcQMQ0BiwAa3x55zq5J_W835ZK6kLETKcvLpLfKW4Nhbhqe5totdo1AgD_wDGklIf-J7MT0sfdGjIdd962v3wM0e0b6-sKqh4Z5JM65sysrCiSMFORrTrmfWu97AzJZ1J0eiLlsj673eM7xPd4e342aZtiijDYfqpw7AKczz6VNqNfkSfvmRNA8QbLQq6lHuQvRu8vVPsD0Dsz289A-wuI8mZGFDxo9HUtBBIQUMQ71Y3PWj0R8CYNNoewKMLnge1DqBbFksPGcysIlRvSL7xHrO1Yj1Lbv0KgnqOYzKEipNd2GlDx-YYBXhk6GQWQCGHO4Rm3Fq-Hi9YUTrCpJ1Yfnw5Bz-Ey_dnMKsYJaxwKo7p-wjt-WN7GrH26sK0hr4vjKT89k6dXu-b_VfUXTAUi0U7M04cu8Me-1kOQbJMVbnuPoKUvx0ziZFkmX6aTZBO7lFQrWct8StCNB-hI4NquQA6Moqsrk-9lhwjTnK2dTppv1UyTXS8p_AmmWKrCH1onRedHrSIw1U5oORv4Mu6BGipEB6rbIFHv6_-f_GijWLNTPm-xpwmgViP6tWyUY5KHNMUE_zx-ter9t6dQEXEggleqUR_pWuZmljhgRyZKdhZ4kKn8zYg=w1252-h938-no?.jpg)

And these cars are cast in resin from Chivers Finelines of W.W.&F. passenger cars. If I can get the windows cleaned up better I think I'll build these up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9l9ICX-Z_PinQhVuoE1_cTl73WCR_nB1trYkW4_opx5VyD37O9zzNGnun3yfTMtZm67-5aozx856T0OEcGDKGNWKfRMK3ZKrSNGJalhg1HtkPx6oxmZ6P_HSQjAtfK0dIip8dXkSQEmLLW3_mn8Z-vGP5I5hIx1AptCoNw4fGKMHAGeBm89oQvyxzdzP4QQ-jQ2tfpHikQLjiXI4DIwhkH2haz4Hypg0X1nnDbw02dvpwO71byi3qp-facnXJRHb609uH1AkI9kkdfXZfyIxBnLMbReeNs2tpb36znYBGKq9VLrWI0xIqq7bWnxESJW6uvU26wB95nqyRw9oKi-iBgyY6uS6OcI5m7FKybj3Y_1-IsNndaxFFuAKhcuxqQl6_b5UFria2G7Af4B4zhFIDBhQGsJPc9HzwevANeshWbk9is0vt9Y9SORkYDMJDJBOx7903405YYVYh5At4Jha9fPDNznYOpvUAguAjHxHg_FJqQVjXm-oeyFBDvsARbdYqPIAe_klZg7zo8bq5pdTLMx7o6aINTlhvTAXMrb8VfVjGMqygrnx_TE_p5eS6qmS5DnlU2hAY9s13fc7x_ISu8oVrOEq56FBGOfJ4iJUcTz6tjz32PtW49eh9PeepZnWvT-QFzb0vKZILsjXG3Fbn6vKUFdY-JsPuFGVH2_jDUI03l3sB2FWMZFmFxhbSdmYC12i37QWrT80RoctbbwML4qPww=w1500-h374-no?.jpg)

Chris,

I can't see anything wrong with the passenger car windows.  Sometimes I think modelers get wrapped around the axle about details that no one else will ever notice.  That's one of the nice thing about HO scale, in HO you can do a lot of detail, but in O scale you have to do a lot of detail

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 13, 2019, 02:34:45 AM
Got the front porch/platform attached to the feed mill.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wDrRjn02V-oxn2yIsip_aTYE_oSsjLhrEN-5SDdEVF1DlrosydNXg_dvp2EvEj8NdXA9X1pqFH6jDop7F0m7G-2QJ3wdwfQ62aCGqH-me6ibYQpqJtELxZfH4pZGxvT37KsAeG86CmH579cnD22ZNpgLcUgTkV1VZnxUw7OBimAMXlwk7L_DVMMjkrbSz00WtppBrFX5DqoNmZ-DIV0rdQLAWgUtcVn24Rdnquc0G-gPFzQ9YtcrvF2qjEshd3wRJ2SDQ17Xm80E3DI97hG6XC2-qoIG6IYuoNQU_QX9RhNsG-EJjCMYvW-u9VKKsx_sV80SJeJk5rMnUaNUHRL_4mDwzq6-vTsSGEcaccV5kJKrk1qvagru9uSHxeNPz6IYKmkatfQvaOg8lQ1URXdmvPXzwV_7Ud4HSF-Om96XlkdWeTaJe1LtvD_nwWcPkpglFPy_-FkcFXi2ETPGPy77Q58_oJC1leuu2bslnhauup823fR-O_4iwL_2Cb-Sj5p4hhYxc0PrZ1t8PAKyAPreuM5yMCXwzHGd8iukh0l8tswUhSIBk7N2oY5rrIQNfrL0lgpWtoPE3m10Il5OCeEGaHwjJjQ-eFlddm5FsEpUGajC03hHzq0QL14XLqk-Z-6hNuqL2rhGNOOP7GwtbMG21xYPirMGDv6TffaHQnIH58SfD9wguXgeWgrBfyVRmrixXx06zCCL_B1is4yLx75W2O91AA=w1040-h643-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/O892aIwkxA40JOy4VGe8t_XBNjlwMrsoRf_zWOBG_qJIdw75TdcOwYboMAJOh_hSP10d4fVFd_-k2kbvyDvUlvS9d2qy4RkBaX0IQ7VRsbXYcKELj2LjJnfBE68Oo89y-uY5vRvcofiIdNAqwPmhQ9Dpwrss6dM9olkdK-ByVSdJiGtsisChkWKhUzvEsEvyFrtwcd5a1Eo_WmgsKhyIaIC7lqQu3VtgEymBwTzeyZeMep73yE7ouRtc0TwhKvg1RonMZrEhVO88RJGr1oWdgatZrzqm5mqD-byyj7PycICEk2KiMf5oQ7_d1knEmPBsR24nmpNxhbW1HHrsFa5FdHY70E7rsjDqjBhcTHP4O7fl6rGdHdukuiRTOSO1y6EhJSbSqQHAOB8MAPZdtgE_yqjJGkOH8QFoIn5cQNpUWbEJXxcJLVO7puAY_ovkpAl7mqrIvh5VfjGwQllY13IjwM-gwaogn_7vfJ7VUWnxtCgQz6VuZDl2nL5ov4rb1oANAdyYtRGvE3tQWo1x-drNkIo3X9u7A6VZEhiCQxz9VfPq8S8zH5QEGB6UEe5mcHEO1EiujUGGSUv4kC2aeXGRDA-tsHR5z1suwAW51W5uqoRQXMCTmC7ehQpiQT_G9Bsp8dVg0J7nSc3rGLjRkMHQkHu1gggeZyM4d6x2YLtOi5RtVGGequUqA-RVp7touYajSAT9CuLlgA5e_b63IRemlPyMhQ=w1500-h935-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8uS566pj_8Ax-ji7UQq1lL13dxWuSzE3q2VaMlbR-wmuNtryMV7BwH_gEHrkD19foz-LHovk6DrAfmCSx29WbFvepYvJwDTS6UqBjrPGvVi9LOem7-zZ6YKs0SLiuW2g2DQjcm2ZLazW3idSm7reHAjCfHwP9e3TrKgIu8eJovDEnJZvWYTo5AJcL4Ue6LswEPMvy8vrXvMPFKr_ywOlv_-rhDbVQhexePX_JSS0QJpwUnDLWXeqf8x5OYYpymCSaoQu_jPks3vN-BarWD4cAh_ILkhmHnD2jiLmeWgL3_PCJ0J-z0o1m2zRxKyYEFpQU8YMPy7jY0wN-wDlaHmiv7m1d_HAkOUvVut85HB0bbvt9hsk44WMSPUyc-EmS4mfbu8fXFgq_Js5Bz_QdoNH1viXToBJ_1_I1ooqy_rVTx_Fbs9UKpzwWa9y6NLDA235grfopjQ-QavkwxN997lN6Dh4xnUwRxR9Nhm_2OQRB9WGNnqk-UcjoAAZ__LUe_NTG-KZwLa73jUuag3Fu80HJXz64wFHKDxUHkm4i4m6zAWHQ5X8j6SbnkMX7gc4D_vQvrvoupeW0yIj2KplYZX_cIZ9eANjRXKSOT8JMJW7oK7r5oJTCMkRg712q0X92LdQ5hGpFgLTIa8aaily7vjCU-xbxRRqCXdFo3OdW2u5ZW67qhjpeTI5DLDJTtw2YaF8eMyCrUU3zE6ljXp5cDjik5vfMg=w1500-h935-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on August 13, 2019, 10:35:31 AM
You need to whack the porch with a hammer.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on August 13, 2019, 10:54:22 AM
You need to whack the porch with a hammer.

Haha!  It’s funny, cuz it’s true.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on August 13, 2019, 11:16:42 AM
Sweet!
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Bendtracker1 on August 13, 2019, 11:48:51 AM
Damn nice Chris! 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 13, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
Nice! Don’t forget to add the bell 🔔 to the peak of the roof.

And dump a lot of dirt on it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 13, 2019, 01:42:40 PM
Magnificent.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 14, 2019, 02:18:40 AM
So Scenic Express wanted $35 to ship a big box of Super Trees and ain't nobody got time for that. They are 2 hours away so I drove there today. They don't have a store, but you can go to their warehouse and shop. This isn't my video, but shows you what's inside:
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They had large tubs (like for Christmas decorations) full of ground foam. I joked and asked if they had enough and the guys asked if I was "in the back" yet. They had 4x8 tables set up with product spread all over it to dry. They had large garbage cans full of ballast and foam grinding machines that looked like cement mixers. Very large bags full of raw foam chunks. It was pretty cool, but the drive sucked. Rained the whole way. Coming home I drove through Pittsburgh and right when I got downtown it was pouring heavy. I could barely see the car in front of me and that is saying something because 90% of the time the cars were stopped dead. Traffic was standing and the rain was so heavy I couldn't even see across the river to site-see.

But I got my trees. Here are about 20 of them drying.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HL3UuwEZT1EdUjQTLVHwYk2FcCxx_YnNNXu_ZGhWLoN0oO3C36Iq0dc3GBCJmmq7oQGtHDHISF7e7iZPoLeIxydOqLpevE0_D5bwNr6CWbEy-6SFfA5Ef2_p4w9NapnaQgKbdEfQus5H6Q1jKJEgIg3lbYvhyHPSXPYoDXgQuRZPIFo2OzdVGKKMQgQmoQpjPZ7AFb3tzrZj-xD2DmYIP3UnObmT3h1mASq0awEd-tyeRTymvH7iyiEDpM76cUkKMoK-TzZeXthD8m-rvWGFgroP7qag778ca3NeFos7i69GMg4WCzL54iy37ShE2_o85KpDD0kQt7jVjbnIQV6xRI8iuINZubknSJNV7bG94_sRQ0Xwwh-Y1-fkzLF07Gy-ynaBpOzt4KtxyDeCWkB9hiCXvkHPbhAFcV8c0gdzTuy7Pph70Mbh3Kil70_4XSGH5kEP9mZZjLh_LgYzWXT0JkMLa6mDg3YuMd-vCcWSCZ8ddiuh6lMObRX-M36Kk00Hn5TcBe88UZU4tKj7jDajYSpD5Q9GeFxgLZpGnl76S0pccC3ANUvTBxZPPJFrAn0deNHA_9LSdkWES54z0Oxy3MgMi-8YW3mPvUitWoZ94UkvDgssORRx0o3jdJPwaddSM9Y1utSVH0Y-W_4FmRBtqqc-KwTt59D-atVg5o314BJKs5VARVd8wXGUGvMk_TRuvGvg2SulKo0jNM6SlF3zZ4Pcyg=w1257-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/D9ViWjGrytqOZTAxqYN79srOO1SohtQo9IM9Ov1gD1rVt-IzVZYwNyTu669X44NL7p0EV631uSHwkWViKgkI_TL1SMEc5q1DmfbiKczlxUXLMmIpwsodJNiFmM2Wuf1sTqrak3hLK5ESK_888HswuBNdoleIUNVKxeu6j7dZTGrrk8QtTsYkCff342V_SAUa1l9bWZW7IPEWqBoDkPGPdR1gS0v1bRAMnIBJL2SRrj4gX1879sj0cEBSvfFwOkh2OgeQ-qeSZg67JbT9goOH6Y9S13LBk-_leD5KLvPdvUkUKs8m-ZP464qiQZi4g4ZDLxFgUhaTzUHPn3XvrBogjqUoxhcyNTB3eUNBGluK5ZiXfQ5_urcIwArbaIdxFZgogVnnXU2HQSmVrTQIGEu-Qyq9RH3LpwurjLlyeZWx0BOffH1VkqMXcjwqjFVVuvWERPd2SL1nBCN-HnVmBsbvaN8UUuOb7sELpbbj8vkm3lbsx5H7mp08lxWogiYQ54El2hPo588eskIRiFD0lerZZ0FBYwpPNKvMSJ7jbOupcdMbYCUDNFxH9dXCxtqQwGBrDDQcsPkGTVX98TBk2a_6zBUhzgrLxw8pG3vfIL0a6KJEQQzlfLY-NyJ2lq2dMt-cNUhxDnXhmtE2I-Urd02yVK9NxAoIM_7NWBrN42fYxMFh2ECeR5uDJ2E_wnMT8cJpRhhj1CHmTzb0ZoGsaRiFM77dPA=w1500-h912-no?.jpg)

The tall trees at the end of the backdrop sort of hide my jewel case collection  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on August 14, 2019, 10:14:57 AM
So Scenic Express wanted $35 to ship a big box of Super Trees and ain't nobody got time for that. They are 2 hours away so I drove there today. They don't have a store, but you can go to their warehouse and shop. This isn't my video, but shows you what's inside:

OF COURSE THEY LET THE HIGH PRIEST IN THE TEMPLE

I only got to stare at the door. I think there's a photo somewhere.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 17, 2019, 08:11:11 PM
Been working on this for a while now. Getting close to finished. Still need a headlight lens (I just paid $10 shipping for it :facepalm:  ) boiler braces, cab glass, and a coal load.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XSPKP_9AmzmYLOMQDtuYOQz9O1FHe7_aBT5gFZbjAO70hwdHxb8l2n1IBD2lmjBGzFq8tqHti2sXVkbaDQH5EyUNkHppY_0tuCKY4BUfTYeeBFeuYPzuA0Hu7VuJAKYdyI28FKi_Pr3NSU60pOEE03bOHX4Nf8sTj0WIky0OQ1b0e_OxIClfwwQvDNJs5aRSVta4qe2tvLUohcpqIZK-JkkIQbcRAv6u87Xvvb1ruAwDQoW2EEeT7RowZUdygNxfE4MK7LbLEjyxWCtyzgnY7fSV3HBE8a0iAkGGLA7KyG-GtOEH2T24thXjA9mGwlZr-34B1zGikrr-H3DxFc1H-ElOlPaKYVNS6J6riVdXYOvx3Xt9Mkrt9Ulkb9QwrYRFAq5KY3qw-SdPCFoLMe2fie27Bp83Ntc3wyJLjJaANErqWGu6ET-6YqH9fo3OTS_Y5Mkdl6XrPsmJ1naC9wDeZO2o68zHrLfawKIfGhSXHO_8W7EMnzdYq8UEFboEw4uOWgLLc91ZLYaff4Ilv6uPIIj1V8lDbgE-sGnEBPGzwKOMfO2B-7JwJsVCRLcLqwX6qwa27VIjkIeJkw3WgpNfGcwwJzdTNTNEvvROjnmhWIhtPVwRP-iCOqmyJ1Mag3Eq5bY-j6jMQyjIlfoMHemOpZoMw2aQmywgZb6_CFLZbL1gnUPDkQdM9-aa-s22qLUy3zc6-13QuW7NldO9v6Tbm2Hi_Q=w1845-h888-no?.jpg)
Started as a Model Power 2-6-0 and this is all I used from it:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SsMTtlYsNIRAEx-EgSctmlyZhUeXD4fASLXx7Y5ezlVSzC3kJsfRsrHAGMIQoGPxgEmc3ZCeP-TtAHredOtQleli28amderheoyDYvtodnqZMTTpHOyf9PhFv7ArUAWMPa5OFWZgHFlptUpA5VVpCG2PmcITTylh3yzj1mJTA61baSm2-9okPVecIJ6njvLu5zqfrS2ooR4OV79DZT3_Xfuxtb-W3pwSPATiZbIS5DUaOO0gQfUCUuApSSzbmr8JcktOdBZui0USOWmUR7tArsSDQ4Kk77_DJm2DUQGzLHRpjJNsJoYaTHhzb-i8lR5Yhz2Ge6E607pw18LsKPc8IOny3qddn75JWfo512V3ZxAxFZbbTTzFCfUHE0WvRQcJyh7KSvL7c00Vce9BrUz_j0oKWKptHWxkS6nVg7xJorebW0yMFRa5SzRdzQkpz_yUUG-1v24_cWMpr7NIxwtAGlgVfn4Tbxe4avXZTGlfqwsvByC6OgLEw5kp599Q_rjB0E_C0LlPrg7OQVJSCr1pN5QBVXr_awJlASHp34Ml2X3h3K66PmcoKRlC5RCHC4AtSH0A3hCUS9QPkyfzzW1mMDrLmD8d02MieeX74qjn6NlerOwZyfHQOyDN29savMW2gYR1QGF5m0PuDqlJS2vGaEkXxtM-DGFU4v3uSvgOYIKtDOTrnIkrpunwcqIVSA1A-7XmNBYWfcvCjeGTYqd0gEER-g=w1764-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 18, 2019, 01:15:37 AM
Also did a quick vid:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 18, 2019, 03:49:43 PM
Chris,

The engine looks great and looks like it runs quite well also.  Do you plan to put sound in it?

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Mike C on August 18, 2019, 05:38:49 PM
 Add another vote for sound .  VERY nice layout !
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 18, 2019, 06:10:34 PM
So here's the thing. I like sound, but hate DCC. Just a few days ago I bought another Model Power 2-6-0 with factory sound. Sound wasn't the greatest so I replaced the speaker. After that the bell and the chuff were very-very quiet with the rest of the sounds at full volume. Did all the resets and turned them all up. It is like a channel blew on the decoder.

I'm done with DCC  :D

So I might get a Kato Soundbox instead and mount speakers on the ceiling above the layout. I have a Climax, Heisler, and some tiny locos that would never fit sound.

So yeah I hope to have sound, just wish I could play with a Soundbox before I bought it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 03:09:30 PM
So across from the feed mill I want a building. Started off with a small Walthers kit that I shortened and changed all the windows on, but for some reason I didn't like it  :facepalm:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bnBhUxW6lKv01w2KXN5H-Z7bsB5ckc88x-sVljhl6y1P_Nx3W6uNEARREBoCjbiFfRLnd4FSTAJqUru4vZV90bC_5SeWsyLhx4N2u1do61YZCgJ6lyte9tsd6cppYjcQL3K0DbQC5ucYrQ-it3i-tkNYPSqM-uZXtVeN9JqfNW95iFNL7BPfAWl1cvwgtzUC0I3Cco1NOGKPeiymL4d8Up-I0Mfyp-MQtkD-1Xs0o5Wd8LZnIv7BqEoSvPT2R9aBNIWrzDZt6EDp_1Sj9707f3xzjyh2HIfmfhh7eASKAVGv_x3IVnDxZPjausebWW2J-QhH7TpU4zBdVzc751raUPYwG9xM2kS0c0lCOGu-yIq3QeXTCKCF1tfkEmhkufazsOcr1hnuaUnB7dSoxJ2Sgt0HZZaMflYGj5skLpRVJzjMY31Kh3vAqsdfGROSRPQgGPhL_EWsFnEvDOnjY9GxaKzpblNA0Lb8wa0GQdyYs2meuYxLJTqr0aGTNyerPFnY6DTrAIRSOETigkzR-q0CUeU2WVirG2jyxwWkzB-q8t87u0Hp-nLRKS6b9Y8q1ZT6FIpo0O9wH1yTKb2VFMNYHRLWlJn9gq_ifjv3Gy1ukoWs76CXI_kJNJk_m-Do1Pd1ddIzgBwRahhPyIXFEBy2mAzaxPgxuv9Tp3bY12rXdVFqsx7MSbndwrwR7AASl0_duC8L_OIoMIK6fsYOLMncbQ1poQ=w1250-h938-no?.jpg)

Then earlier this year at a show I saw an old kit from "The Structure Company" called York's Store. Opened it up and it was basically a sheet of wood with paper plans to make templates. Well I tossed all of that and just used the plans in the kit to scratch build the whole building is styrene. I will use the window and door castings. And I did use the roofing material that came with the kit. Seriously someone needs to just sell old kit plans/instructions... :|

I like this much better:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n1ph_K2Y8eDSoOBl9JIy_7cEnMr6Ac_rOaW2eTy7iL4cMJvtbeLfU2y1_rHs_MQKjPIUndLcdLNMbC4UlMmIeib2CuywxG5GTjoSF8hSePxqUBDpU6P0HG0P-ugQHFjmmMDd8vhwx8wNYWqegeT1KDwMa3kZponszOx6BkyJnbWGlZKc-fjt0iO2yQDkOS7Ydroq1ZKeTZOUS-u1hFOzZMsZPX24sLadgaK4u1wa_tNm5ph0CjOsY4z8MUMgra7_Kz10md_f4Jua009d5LO5rh4iszAAmbUW0ojyDRqnfPl64Cw1qRWgv_57_I70MTP-uJFjlaDenzC0vHtWjOayXqsl7LJAwrCZ3POCxwhblgJL-naK2v1BNKYL0SnkTk0AhQNSQlnf_jTfyeRoVtL3WRJCLPSF6NjDNx_gCP309tSieuuI7w_5jESWAIThYCPzcSLhZOj0GyBcvSgeS1HrA_hxLHdZbHuqb9F9itq1o79Pba_03jOnxiP0j6UHKVD6EidkrGWSNOhy2R2BwTpw72SBDCIoiY0DeDG11XP6nOUl1Q5-tvlUovzxbnkF7vnRE5UEnWnXjLbhE2xPxDo5ygVpMZhzlgl-40ebCgdBeZmY37gE070FRjN-9X3VDxSQskiOCCtycba3Sb0n43EXfAFHA9qzce9RQZP2Y03WApo-rYXTBcGycajCg5UhM-WybjXlC_zxwIK_0Nk2VElbefMo9w=w1250-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
So here's the thing. I like sound, but hate DCC. Just a few days ago I bought another Model Power 2-6-0 with factory sound. Sound wasn't the greatest so I replaced the speaker. After that the bell and the chuff were very-very quiet with the rest of the sounds at full volume. Did all the resets and turned them all up. It is like a channel blew on the decoder.

I'm done with DCC  :D

So I might get a Kato Soundbox instead and mount speakers on the ceiling above the layout. I have a Climax, Heisler, and some tiny locos that would never fit sound.

So yeah I hope to have sound, just wish I could play with a Soundbox before I bought it.

Just out of curiosity, what's the issue DCC?  The store looks great btw.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 03:22:38 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's the issue DCC?  The store looks great btw.

Scott

My power pack has a knob and a direction switch, my DCC controller has about 25 buttons.  :D

It is like they didn't even design it to run trains. I hate turning that endless wheel for speed. Plus it took me less than an hour to ruin the decoder. Literally 2 laps around the layout and the decoder got screwed up from changing the speaker. 

I do like the sound, but I just don't think my head should hurt when running trains trying to remember what buttons to press.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on August 19, 2019, 03:28:39 PM
My power pack has a knob and a direction switch, my DCC controller has about 25 buttons.  :D

It is like they didn't even design it to run trains. I hate turning that endless wheel for speed. Plus it took me less than an hour to ruin the decoder. Literally 2 laps around the layout and the decoder got screwed up from changing the speaker. 

I do like the sound, but I just don't think my head should hurt when running trains trying to remember what buttons to press.

It gets much easier and more intuitive with practice/time.  By the way, if you increased the volume, you can overdo it, and the speaker will sound garbled and blown.  Try turning the volume back down before surrendering.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 03:43:29 PM
It gets much easier and more intuitive with practice/time.  By the way, if you increased the volume, you can overdo it, and the speaker will sound garbled and blown.  Try turning the volume back down before surrendering.

DFF

The whistle and all the sounds the loco makes while sitting there work fine. It is just the bell and the chuff that got screwed up. You have to put your ear right next to the loco to tell it is working.

I just don't want a circuit board in my locos.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wcfn100 on August 19, 2019, 04:13:04 PM
 Time the worlds first HOn30 Baby Ruth box car.

Jason
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 04:26:33 PM
Time the worlds first HOn30 Baby Ruth box car.

Jason

LOL I bet it would sound like crap today.  I notice new Bachmann On30 locos come with "Chuffinity" sound. They don't sell then as TCS decoders yet, these are the first. Supposedly they make the chuff sound less like a computer and more like a real loco.

https://tcsdcc.com/chuffinity

For right now the only thing keeping me from getting the Kato Soundbox are the dynamo and air pump sounds that are automatic. My locos don't have electric lights or air brakes.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on August 19, 2019, 08:04:18 PM
My power pack has a knob and a direction switch, my DCC controller has about 25 buttons.  :D

It is like they didn't even design it to run trains. I hate turning that endless wheel for speed. Plus it took me less than an hour to ruin the decoder. Literally 2 laps around the layout and the decoder got screwed up from changing the speaker. 

I do like the sound, but I just don't think my head should hurt when running trains trying to remember what buttons to press.

That is a copout.    :P
 There are plenty of DCC throttles out there with a single-turn speed control knob, and fewer buttons.
And as far as buttons are concerned, even if you had a DC version of some sound system, how do you propose to activate various sounds?  With your mind?  :trollface:  Then there is the proto-throttle for ultimate realism (although I only  heard of a Diesel version).
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 19, 2019, 08:16:20 PM
I’d like to see a steam version of the proto throttle, but all the valves would make it awfully heavy... then it would get too hot to hold from the firebox.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 08:17:31 PM
I'll send you my MRC 2-6-0 and if you can make the sound work I'll consider giving DCC a shot.  :P

But even then the layout would have a switch to go back to DC for my smaller locos.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 08:25:26 PM
And just to be clear. If you use DCC that is fine with me. I just don't like it. Sort of reminds me how simple my TV used to be and now it is like having a child to care for.

I bought my DCC system to put sound in a On30 loco. I wasn't happy with the sound and focused on HOn30 instead. That is why I even have the DCC system in the first place.

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 19, 2019, 08:52:56 PM
I'd think a Zephyr and a UT-1 throttle would do the trick, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on August 19, 2019, 09:39:44 PM
I'll send you my MRC 2-6-0 and if you can make the sound work I'll consider giving DCC a shot.  :P

But even then the layout would have a switch to go back to DC for my smaller locos.

I sure can (by installing a "real" sound decoder, like ESU, or even Tsunami).  :trollface:  But regardless of what decoder I install, I have to admit that they all are complicated beasts which sometimes require some tweaking (or can occasionally lose their "mind".  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on August 19, 2019, 09:50:39 PM
Chris,

I can't speak for other systems, but one of the features that sold me on Digitrax when I first made the leap was that Digitrax allows you to run a DC analog engine simultaneously with DCC-equipped engines using 00 as the loco address (in effect treating your analog engine as if it had a decoder addressed to 00).  Now, obviously this has limitations.  For one, all of your analog engines will respond to address 00 so unless you have isolated blocks you can turn off, any analog engine on the layout will move when you crack the throttle for address 00.  Second is that analog engines have a whine to them that is a function of how Digitrax is "spoofing" the analog engine into behaving as if it were receiving variable-voltage DC power.  But, as all this is happening, you can control your DCC-equipped engines independent of your analog engine.  There's no DC to DCC switch required.

But if you've got that engine that'll never get a decoder for whatever reason, or a new DC engine you want to evaluate before you install DCC, this feature is great.

It would not surprise me if other major DCC systems do this now, but when I first made the plunge 15 years ago, Digitrax appeared to me to be the only one that did this.  And given how long it took for me to convert much of the JD's fleet to DCC this was a major win for me.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2019, 10:34:37 PM
Oh if I was going DCC I'd just keep what I had. It is simple to wire in a switch. Only 2 wires go to the layout.

About ESU decoders. I was all set to buy the new micro that just came out, but you need to have it programed for what loco you want. And try to find sound samples of those locos before you buy. All I could find were the acutal sound files and my computer won't play them.

The reason I ditched the On30 sound was because my Heisler sounded like a rod loco.

The ability for a loco to make noise doesn't really matter if it is the wrong noise.

Meanwhile I just designed another 3D gondola...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 20, 2019, 11:09:29 AM
Chris,

I was asking about DCC because I'm about to delve into that world for the first time myself.  If the sound problem you experienced was after replacing the speaker, it may be because the encoder requires a certain impedance value for the speaker.  I know tsunami's have specific requirements and yours may also.  As for all the buttons, you don't have to use them all, frankly I don't see myself using anything besides the chuff sound and the whistle. (gotta be able to whistle off)  Anyway it's your layout, do what makes you happy, and it's looking great btw.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Jbub on August 20, 2019, 11:19:00 AM
I'll just throw this out there. If you don't like dcc because knowing what button does what is daunting then the ESU Cab Control system is for you. The mobile control 2 handheld has icons on the touch screen instead of a button with a number you have to memorize.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 20, 2019, 12:38:39 PM
Scott,

I'm sure you'll be fine, I'm just old school I guess.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on August 20, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
Chris,

I was asking about DCC because I'm about to delve into that world for the first time myself.  If the sound problem you experienced was after replacing the speaker, it may be because the encoder requires a certain impedance value for the speaker.  I know tsunami's have specific requirements and yours may also.  As for all the buttons, you don't have to use them all, frankly I don't see myself using anything besides the chuff sound and the whistle. (gotta be able to whistle off)  Anyway it's your layout, do what makes you happy, and it's looking great btw.

Scott

Reading Chris' problem description he states that all the sounds except the chuffs and bell are working fine (so the speaker is likely ok).  Still, sound decoders do require some fussing around with (setting individual sound volumes, etc.) and are not totally immune to getting scrambled from time to time.

I also agree that there is no need to  have 28 buttons and a dozen different sounds on the throttle.  That is absolutely crazy, and I doubt that anybody actually uses all of them during regular operating session.  Some of the sounds are gimmicky, crammed in there just to  make sure that every function has something assigned to it. Bell and whistle are really the 2 most needed, but couple more sounds do come in handy. But not a dozen or morel.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on August 20, 2019, 08:26:26 PM
Chris,  what is your minimum radius? 

Thanks. 

Wayne
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 20, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
It is 10". Layout is only 26" wide.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on August 20, 2019, 09:38:16 PM
Cool, that would work for me!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 22, 2019, 03:16:14 AM
Got my fancy buildin' painted up.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rGd16pQ9cfSDaKxx5c3R8t_bbIEmVHwh97LWJ0rrwiR_kesPWUPvvwWC1xFEUi1CXkefO3UTk2c_JVYQhOEKNYtrgz8v0eZ2MHjtURFLgUN1bpNXRcd-V0hLMkeug_QX1nYRT6ivMfhL4hB5cPe2Evz28eE2td-RE20fZSiiXnLQ1ZFuCKsUXAla1TM3dJU8B8uMg_PW5356WR6DxFGSCoJ2-HP3nxJgTu2boPgiTPZWAdUXNZy_siaz2NSxBUhtvpJ8OJ1V2WBge7LOSy6wv5Urd_IF_4TauCgtsJhOTcQUI7KbA0IUGf_GfBY0NyLMURDxSQSmV-FAcNVxFi7bhWAHfJJpTj4xzUK18Xhf8ZF3ZFhvZLMSIbSph2uBbV_6NaqNxb1m_AMC9MwixIhkUp9olDBXuyYdTYuuaVNpXN10IB39dDcEHe6FLfli1pt9q5EhM83NlfWKanJKLgSJHJhohxdcSFCXbSWxrK5FqGZ9FFpUG8JG32AXRH1ohUzGvEB5vXjy_yctqC7emvw_5uW0OQhXf-icS_fqhXtIO6qUBzYLC5T2ojb02tjgo1KoXhtG4RzOnCdjP45OB7Q0N75tKFbajdSYLJGqCIETyPFC1Dia23L0XgvUZiX9-6FI_rFOZYieDfBQRDrV75f_0PpozG61w93YLAL4ExHoqc4UiLoI6YKLeeSTA__pBi2bRxosRn9sMWTTxfoQ2Ex3J_IQBg=w1383-h938-no?.jpg)

It has no decoder  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: garethashenden on August 22, 2019, 10:53:29 AM
Got my fancy buildin' painted up.

It has no decoder  :P

But how are you going to run it with your other buildings?  :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 23, 2019, 01:11:35 AM
And then there were flatcars.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zgRpFOwe4xA0NNqDAw14DJ63WjNINjd8b1hR-8PVi4LMswvqWm7FXeDJDlKPQMRcXY4M5w5yuaqtof-LWNojeHlcTM_3jJvlWID7Qj_AaY6mHKVBBR02bvUnvLmGwYxYkZVzs4niIiiz10scQzBlORdMmKEkXjAfTX0HdM7WU0VADLRarMf2V5sI1e2YXfuK_QcR-Jv6qr8H9rxwnBtYrCYcKHZ5mdWrgl6BIFTuko0EMNrxq2eZ-cu2bmuT_xk_cAL212o_ohdnsneYC9I73S9pOR_cTxVLy0DOhEJc5MICmc_M43YmMXGKEJSNQ88cN2r6uWXWUksWuqTnbFSiwZTcFOXtMqT3v1XVl_zxfhvq8jfvMoIbQ4r0Ce74Wv7SQhbSnab0n8nrieHHFLPljzXR4OwZq4UHXNDlgYwT72mUmHyMgIRvDB4zJlwec_jZ0EOqTPjqPUuB9lojuPEin4mpUKxHJw78UVIp2oJ3RaKXSiK_Jp0z6qiF3c6VhdqlHDpuFtaGV2csC-DR-hzYGR6VX9ltdsm_87ZKaCpsJSoFTxYKWhS1x9pJp41mBbiHBi5OiSuFqW2eZE5mxTe9hKPyA_XFIvjXJUz0BpRimXqPVSrUIt3jWbJ1PcKEYS3WeZ_P5e-osrqvXuYbkDGMhXiu640bBhl4s2P8jJzNEKQLh5mCvuwArdAhXohTXPewQ978gYr9SQ_qFZJDMexJ4mtOmg=w1500-h700-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 23, 2019, 01:16:47 AM
Excellent!
Don't forget to touch up the tops of the stake pockets with the car color.
I think that'll really make the car pop even more.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 23, 2019, 06:51:08 PM
It ain't easy being green.
(https://www.citr.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/green1.jpg)

Slowly populating with trees. I find after plopping big trees I do a lot of filling in with small trees and even tree pieces to re-shape other trees. Sort of pile trees on top of trees.  :)  You can see my fan helping dry things cause ain't nobody got time.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/69NHhrRK0emmZsyuobMZevIXAYQNbj0JLJpM25k5C0533_N0Z6lLLtl1NQ2X8TwOLa6VxMXYLwnmVhdyzYHkas9PMhiBCe64wcLfjiSZnScEol4VaqNAaRHOLQugRZ745cI8_h4SbH95eQviFDx-40Uq5itxrVU97kXQIGaxfsQp2QvRAHqOO3AD1uOcnQSS0lGoH6-3bDL5a-yIezc21gUOJcvpiT2gvcEpaYHApP3yVzh1nw7crEpa0waTHPv84bbp2MfSTpDeYNC_3uo1FWvDZD0bzj5iQFWZqV230or1788wEwENwlpUPiFVyNq72d3KMZOvI0etrIfGJvdmfKroZ-VuI3nfeq1XUOkWeGZluC4c-oItmyzjnOjyrZ5fKuEfJjLcbeN3TTbdGeiJCvhRb8-iFM-Gj41W2i2_LskYNCN99QKcgwfe2UWGcLDZVZ85a57dOhTU1FUbivs0xx3MGgUcWuwYzB3BQ6P_gMlopwEO2ZcneXKhbwPgBM6pFFDOCdfsikEchN3xvkV2n8TR4h8-Tsp-XMPqKn6mwa4SaV6yXASgB0M_u3tPiyd5_Stf8au9Dh5h4Bwbz6OnPgNqY5A5gqngokj2ETCx7EdnsGEnpCy7iyEarDUSN3SehihdhquWQayGeoWIhxP5wGoWUrBCsuIjhnYzKGyvChl_gsMUrQazNuOyTQyxcCrKpfx95qzYJp1piNXmTFjLC6Eoug=w1500-h914-no?.jpg)

Have to hide this road into the backdrop:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5uqHUJqrc4GwR6XAjSIF6pR6Xyqu8FQXVYYN6VEnggEsPIxlU8RktXFUPaqM5_D1ioA5fr4O9ewliAs03z2c1byOZLlSnwfyWHB0X3n-kSq9X131P14LNh4oyZMnlCHhdnOJEbWaHv8ob2wKPR3wvMvqmbQhcfLfR1ZRBXcuYCASUelLcaRhkpfE5VckyZb-aAE9TMyEspksnN46UO9P-kXIVYL-Qz60W2ReKppsLqlxsTaB7pDrQNmbe3mmDfSKx2A_xKT7bjKcvafm_rx2tgv-DwCo-M1kTzQ53VNRpn0OiZoPjLxTt-YyZ-5QC8_IObGBpRaEr3M3VHaYFrTgWwtg1Tf6qbiUd_SbLowzHeR5UPx82Owle1yc7BLzGUA65RCwK2801kST8uQzQvrp4cPmehZCh8w8-nriFOvw7Gm88sfAgg2BXPutvXK6kNY6EsVvan6vaR34_0ohdm9wqkqHLMmHDjBP9MXXd4KekGRhMUOGBtYrj6Gh0HHh0jEyZQaYkNbOWBehEwRcuOn_l1fCqw8gFCGkARStyQLXNesXSHiRv-micgUtwSZIwIBfkAPQgZH7_S0l2QgT-nIQYNXt3aEclTrL3pUGkiKQA-5Z6XhIltJjsavrNzIp8qiP6WK-_THsYt-6sEx2cu5RoLLiC-o39qYtqK6yZXIoaUlAvmNSNB5yDDuuNgT_C1y1cMxvJnUdbs0m0fidyJBT5cPUHw=w1027-h938-no?.jpg)

And this creek (could it be "Mill" creek? )
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EHv6alVCB2RPNvNfxwXFjxAhCg3NRYAV1AUPM6DJ6Q06k83_drFaciv8vxkZrQu7X0XPkNMvS5R0NGqxv0Qv9Vwj61G4o1hwFzWPlEa8AunWMIX0GOYhA-vnjHaSP3pRCgtDMlR0MTjdyfyCIXZr9dAULSJ9ym0MioHzmhRNbNsxWMhai3ww6Va_ILtYWxnlh3S7A3jRU0XvrqdtdEWFupTdRg83ZO9hR6JQTegOyKULNqeBeaIATnvdM0nAwujPvs0L3iLelhtjX5x7MkWh6KvbOwNW1ZNAAfuIPruDROQhXBIgJg4YVgZmoWxwxn0aPv1VpGxatVkvwVmXUKot8o5lP6X8QqBDrIOGid2ITWhfUGpnqpavnCoHjWkDYWasX7CnvstPnSX9vnm755DLACPgdM9EmoAhave1KCojH93rdpwLcCFf1dxlQyrr_NvPF1Zw_GFaS3VwOJWNQyS2sV7x6eHra_vDgViKlFTcD9zsZYBmAiPm-xs0QPjCNc9zdVqTPSVUgDAXNYjNxxmKsS50OIph0NYohY9-q6USxYIPzTTc752lBFY3oedHS1-pxdflP_qXwjtNU_0Wo769t7ABiF8p_6jf_WHym0PYD2M0gLaYgO6mTSQyukPQ_OMdb0-uXxORwmC1mIqnUpFInnlHZU0559dm8oWPY1Hs4sn8AZz81xc4DFQZ1ZTNfywRjAIthmubtugwJSJPeHjzXQIYUQ=w1164-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 29, 2019, 01:15:27 AM
So this is my life:

Look for a sign "LUMBER" to slap up on a building.

Find the perfect sign:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jdQ7yudZaRmEH8Cae_M0SP0S-b_4t8SSrTmyrmLWXx2CSNHkGf1RsIVCWyhgLEvWofWa6cEIUzktS_pdWoxmhEAulDMGJCfLR-oUZypFyE5yJH0vFsYXV0UasnQy_xbaWLB1E17Fny6GE9fRAg4SybLL6mkohnn5FNVIuftSA0a6o_LJl1740-Uj8C6isw1WiEMyctufBhz717rUYIA9VywLW3a-6Qpuz22ABvwcTHfuoAWq4xpBuZzcEjbEqDoSZIvz5bxFs4qYpE4t7w01HSn1oMge8DwTV4e4IFW57Gj4d6n0PIzr4MaPja0FmnZ5x0K4MObJ7kTUiIEV66JoE-OoqNn_R0bn2rS26yLpH1jOISVNUNTF1B7Ux19_a97xpu48ZegDR7niORMR8tx_nI0_Zu60prqeQx3KbpupOTkngeg844nX_kRzBQGZqGmBaB4bQk2mfmKDcqqdmeKOLBLffw4Qikxr9kvz6UNw1z5B_re7B-o3rXw3mIuDo1e7JGsX1GUGB7CyAOv5TxH5y3-iigYa48W8VAeRSNFgjEmOcd7DPIIgrjoWMIM0AIWo5hVrIVS3FawtvzeCCk4H-oBrnb0wrO08U-rQaUMauMqBjri0V-QoZbBCZEPbw3kgfVDTcouvuOs3T7ZyVM6AbV_p2fdflz9BrzLtKHWr7-n-kV00TdCGtxM-OQ1DMmktn3P4MIvKazO89UAkCgf8b9DQBw=w1524-h721-no?.jpg)

Put it into AutoCAD to trace it and fix that it's leaning:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZjBRlDvHxJMmxiGErD5eH0V8YMhb2SEw9DCh0JLMyNOqxCT4MRz_xUvR5FxZVf-Z-_cvz0MfLpCf2vt8cjAIucR_Ai5ArzMyYF5yfHai0odXBRj41rTLdnQCo_pe_HQxBAPbiJ1DQZHBOMFK7hBQoaXdPir-mje3DHGgqvjDxuzzl5ejwgsAx2616fu0r88cj8BL5M3n8rleMSSTmZoy8Q3Yjq06e_ddhejBvsJnbgZhp3KSa3Ptf75oqYrc_hMcyAidyp8D9jnIJUxfoRDebt8I-5LBrvz9S4A7F2fqzGY5JhBgh0ZqsqaXdlhDQJCWY-On6JKZEmZmAGvAPnKRxohRVRoU8zi09AZN39nQonrnnIF0GEqBfVfb0LfUYaE7RTjOyrQ6Vo1zo_Qlib09WEgTD9gKXC2_baOWA_EkZ7ohlD52nIsMQGYYejPuSjj9IgdfB7vUW8-HmclAC_SRrug059EgTJKqgQ-NMf9BPqWUvQ9poyb2vYgK4i28ZOzo28wj7d-9KEOzE5N3g5TKR1eazP60IBCY25bvS0mt0_h4rvwesI0FdyZ4qTRRhLAlVJDzqQN5sm39JdH5UW1xWYdt2IjwfoG8Ydi5Vb2ijdC5-RnMdVokJVQ7aX4vefIQwb1AkGpamYO12Duh-OKw_EBYJsxKwNJLu193JtLUgsVvJkIs308i9J9tnhw2NrNL3W8w6oDn-eXqiuP7fxRheyqNnQ=w800-h758-no?.jpg)

Print it out and I hate it:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IJuC63kb8RXIkxvZjBLp54vKLz9MTuPOB9ZEAx7b8IMtgj0OkSpTjdhcg6va6ks2CQO19Wci26xAXFugMCHMCRUnVkOXqoPLqu1_-Il8WTMwO9rR3GayeSokAlNZ1faZDVgitHvHjw4z-vgSftgnlq3rX3_UPS-B_RbNoSLvdHDtuMw-Rxwna2302mg0mRKSIAgWinC3FBua88Z7BsYRZ-2_fGgQvNKhzruTtYDci_dgks5yzxnZzeCpUgKEnz0c1-fHPXQSflfTXx0YMgE6u1-69UthzzhowFLuaBBglC9206dQThVPbhctRrDl4zLI1umF4_ohkuBTCe7oehNbFB8lMR0VWIjD8IUMwpQCUopQ6rML_qTi_e73c_dc8Rvbl8mscmqSjSh7wwdjARhE7jtg02oFPXuS7N2mNUW_iXZZTDbAzr_0EjKrNJXdOxjtN--zwrPcH-kU5p89BbZMAfa_j3lcwZcxApJkKju6J3CM4VXeRRJIgPP8jIayU8LlcZSC4cov1BjQfY_4WllnwpLmczvhbtc9JcQw2BDhWoy9ImjHR7Da3w3owLZIqaqRArcbgx9Q3gXgR6O2kmzulF9j87Mp1gR_Lr5TxIJ1ac669QcNF5BYULgS_3s4Jvgyo8tGoJe528Pr1W7nn_cw4mECrAAmYh6wwjE0JFpifj032WPafrtATC-03UcbbOPSkGuD58sdyzhiaYm6JYfkgakxCA=w800-h493-no?.jpg)

 :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 29, 2019, 02:26:33 AM
Fu#k it. At least it looks hand painted.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/L8y_v4G0a-Hbf2t_uDuMnD3RI_7nYaiuB9AIbqQjw53gHZSvRbVlH_AOGYqli8N6bmpo5yH0CkiLHZCM40u46XLUOVsahznBt27WkdoKkWJteKVl_Y9ALcEVTxu_V8wWtR_zQJL3bjSEo5ohxQId5Yw5ueX6Xmm7MAxy211XYukWIN_a3bIFSBnX6gs0j1QrwQrC_LbaZ4cwHC4HZ8i-UkNnShYLTfOwKFj136FTq3ZxlMvG-Fr4bMcSjw1qyRI8DTEOd2m0i--QSYRfZ00wgpnVfbX_itlY47f_ODUTOulAwNnXW9FWBKRwO7s0kIx3QmAeyj1sZf5-hMBf0FKGdUg0T580EsQUfo3ed0sAlzbdo8Qq-XSVNQh6FGx8d2vkhzNO936OYKOFY_B6E3G5p8kyv-49WwIzCphIHfj8zt6Wo3QyStHdomPwGSCU6tlUfPcsGsis33h0AIlDub87Qy7-DdVk5YvV80mbD0vdxkfwBuW-tguWs6i3tYit08KHev8TLhRNYK3rgeGlMIWjfHgKxlq9tAZiw8GvqiF2HLi9GmPv9PwhvG-XtL02_a9OyZNYugB7LYlUEfgHggoPhuepDSzYpcKU9IXNpsvJwhBwosCnwrsgkpJkUeJxeb41Uwq30zwFuuYIYlm5fGrSJFuAZfM95Uh7llveZR-f131tpA2m2Omr5TcoF4C6MI4G_TnlWkUAz8dddOJyT4xwH4QSPA=w800-h531-no?.jpg)

Tried to copy this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0K7utI9C_PfvtwNPxKeh46fSRqE9siExhyDSUTDpU4eoK9vCGiARjpTHwi6kmRKiYmVMdLTsE0teHP4rtqNa4ddlt5GNrhL5pM_67_WnRtZKh4GQ4bVZgXJo8nn323X2mzWMAX0cvEGRRGSezdgad4obk4NYcul9X00XMlmB83CM_TseuZi70BpBLh7PxQ7bjCYsb7F2ET8PIk9KwKUGGkKuTmbjyB6J1Qnw7C_5KcF3NVtIuSP8WacA-ShQ87etikVh2Kg35cn74m24EaFkTC-Cs8-J9CKyilGN3wXrW_bsWibbOegUzM60icUQmCy_xqzOlvUfI2v75jyuItnOSQhDny4lWJrtWXrnKNGZ42WmCRNJDOfaYKZQW0Y6WzNoKuh72FFxKLDpG3hxNyxT2yWECxqhuO8jdJPWh0mwMDtxdP5KQk7milfZifNKvR3IF76odNMH9SgprLuzAMpVrMRL4QRQ_hV9uSs_Bd1aedguEJJBsilxs-TweTmnv2a9bwPTRQS_TtIpL6cXzyUxMLB5QI0b4M6yU_ZbjAAyCHMm6q0_wI38g4_eiinZHmwRyUPDUDvupdhtjDkqaCTRILA29zE8fzkNRN9__paHa7e9L5VQKcnmYAgLeYg4oPCuWSw9NgO-WYwCteQlEJvPzre3bDb7hBr8-2Pcljww5m8PqKyTD2P_H0oNUPfBVP8yfBwjI1gYwwe5A8VoUhGdtuwS6A=w630-h280-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 29, 2019, 04:54:22 AM
Any of these do it for you? I can export to higher res, or as a vector file.

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/railwire/lumber-1.gif)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on August 29, 2019, 10:28:49 AM

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZjBRlDvHxJMmxiGErD5eH0V8YMhb2SEw9DCh0JLMyNOqxCT4MRz_xUvR5FxZVf-Z-_cvz0MfLpCf2vt8cjAIucR_Ai5ArzMyYF5yfHai0odXBRj41rTLdnQCo_pe_HQxBAPbiJ1DQZHBOMFK7hBQoaXdPir-mje3DHGgqvjDxuzzl5ejwgsAx2616fu0r88cj8BL5M3n8rleMSSTmZoy8Q3Yjq06e_ddhejBvsJnbgZhp3KSa3Ptf75oqYrc_hMcyAidyp8D9jnIJUxfoRDebt8I-5LBrvz9S4A7F2fqzGY5JhBgh0ZqsqaXdlhDQJCWY-On6JKZEmZmAGvAPnKRxohRVRoU8zi09AZN39nQonrnnIF0GEqBfVfb0LfUYaE7RTjOyrQ6Vo1zo_Qlib09WEgTD9gKXC2_baOWA_EkZ7ohlD52nIsMQGYYejPuSjj9IgdfB7vUW8-HmclAC_SRrug059EgTJKqgQ-NMf9BPqWUvQ9poyb2vYgK4i28ZOzo28wj7d-9KEOzE5N3g5TKR1eazP60IBCY25bvS0mt0_h4rvwesI0FdyZ4qTRRhLAlVJDzqQN5sm39JdH5UW1xWYdt2IjwfoG8Ydi5Vb2ijdC5-RnMdVokJVQ7aX4vefIQwb1AkGpamYO12Duh-OKw_EBYJsxKwNJLu193JtLUgsVvJkIs308i9J9tnhw2NrNL3W8w6oDn-eXqiuP7fxRheyqNnQ=w800-h758-no?.jpg)

Chris,

While it's probably too late, I think the problem is that you omitted the serifs on the letters, i.e., the little strokes at the end of each letter.  They are not just plain block letters.

If it helps, I think that the middle choice in DKS's post would also work well in your application.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 29, 2019, 11:39:58 AM
Or... you could add some paint drips & runs and call it good enough.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 29, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Viva La DKS. Thanks a million for the millionth time.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2gr8UZfOR2414-I8oe4GnTwFqwTZWVTvq031VhtyO4usjTZ8iLBa67X0LbDS3HOYuNM0hnQCAqEtg-dnPAg6IrMSr6ZdcFIAfStSK__-5BNwEgn4gxwI31LNvrElKDci8hdddEpv7KKaAw6OUjDdunc2ZLcGEr1sV7zrodgpbvhbwbo89tdOe_a6vEa-GDmxsirgjrFkmuYcDXeSDWXdYmrfAjPvBPH9_C6MD73EAYz4Bna7uS-vEs-7R5q_dnDK8fdXpDfl9yiTfHFmHfG9Sqv0Uj_u9id9Q2vPk51BthC-UTpBvxDKyFao2_X1gp_Mw20RimQhXJkaWrAMZT6PRL73hA3awpGbIRt2VaD24WADTKB1F9gLmVUjKPoLUOqMgGFl1TW1Q2y1sEMylPjmOsbd5Ht_O3CgiVjUiexXl35i-wWcSp4xeAsIMC7KCuv9uwQY_FLYiQGUTDFIzuPBosj5H65BYOlCaZ8_pHWTI0lfKaRjNSaV1RLeQYT8Q9u1S0HfjtebECxCbr9Bfs2mokYhj_CeZriY0Ic0gD9VlAmWArR7GxPhFbgmFtVSszt8jUzxc7zx_yxUHeZCjH-mh-j0gUr8uug-EPABFbo6TOz2S7fY9w_-qQEHmjBrZlCyEvPlsN8XE1fju43cZ7NUSrTra2IFYOTnti83WilcvClsduXkHZsgH_iqUh7yycFRHOicfabpwynJMYTwJ2uaWyn9OIUpANPFSwMBLCHRtgb_yv1s=w1259-h938-no?.jpg)

My luck did keep going though. I printed this sign 7 times and 4 of those times it was glued to the building when it went bad and got ripped off. Twice I ruined it in my hands. See I didn't want to just glue it on, I wanted it to look painted onto the boards. A lot of the black kept rubbing off so I touched it all up with a fine brush. Right above and below the sign the wall looks a little extra worn because of me scrubbing the glue off each time.  :facepalm:

Just letting it sit and have the glue set a little was the key, but I have to have it done NOW...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: GaryHinshaw on August 30, 2019, 02:04:18 AM
Looks great Chris.  You might consider distressing the rest of the wall to blend with the area around the sign.  It would look very authentic.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 30, 2019, 08:49:03 AM
Excellent. Glad I could help! I might lightly brush on some white chalk dust to make streaks below the lettering... or not.

Edit: Do you have white decal paper? It works really well for a painted-on look, although you'd need to seal it with clear matte spray to prevent the black from flaking off before applying it to the building.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 30, 2019, 04:08:56 PM
Ehh it already on and I'm happy with it. About the weathering that would be hard to match. The whole building was a wood tan color and then washed the barn red very thin. The sign is BAM solid black so needed to be reverse weathered from the rest of the building. I masked off the sign and weathered it from the rest of the building.

I took a much simpler approach to the building next door. Just used decals.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TB8ZenUf0oEUfyRmZ7BYkhkKBpVGPZ_YsQ9HcacrogfvdRRO-J5XJEDK15ywsqyoDqbUXe62C61XpZt_lQLhgFAEgUcgjm6GTrkIGgn0LtZ6XqQzFqsMqanUnrpIe_e26HqLPkbJWDx9CClJsoPL5wf8VZqym3VBm9CtzffGA0Iw8u6xcvtGN9nYGVvVgtSgjHOQQxy9o8_hCubV_m8yH94n6x6Lu6mngS4wtJr90kQsFk2ZpQVcSRKOoIjRH2aC8VNSn3FkmNH83r80W9ZWnD4WZqEfXHENVK-j49UQK4nvlslMhhnO4VRKbjQVMDHRBMOpzvHoHp6Vfdx85qcGGsHnXDZrBSWW0iXQqpbKrB9diGMbRgctfvAAJWfSDBUi8k9zmrMds1bfdTGyGLmYpHtQM2M_laNUEvAW1XKWtW9yV8_z2NIC55dVR7Ddhft9j8eAzVqnpr_R8FYZcK0ciG_psga7tXsWJBw4ptaUoCQ-Ifypg5var-eWApgjxqpZ_0niZWGQr-dwlh3Nau6DLLxk7IPOZI12XJ-BBUd-XTZVnemDBISCfKewcoy1k4_7CU0w0GaNsl6IzcnM9MW_gp8vSqMf5iR8Vg_ltf0qAoKhvRSYncDtx6NHiyt_xoCuYR5y_mKrQpiRPwCQd4h3GqNdZlSr5OAfcYrOLx6Deu-DjeriIf6pue7gm55diynlHg_053E8xlFdc_BFmTE8Ov1HUlacSZrnXnUu4H7-06Aqz_Cg=w1500-h695-no?.jpg)
The idea for the HAY & STRAW came from this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JWek8GIyGbRnAULbwv5j-xLvQIYnwacZUDXh_aKZanJt_nsazHwFe3MUrNSo_GbBZEspURV6HFPLLYdZ0LgahHpEiLBXaJMe-GIP-5N5hmbKX3a4cY5bv0j55RxwqETNPNRdN2f1LWpinv1lrMSPZLPYroFFeQurgUVqs-a4YzBy8G6YI1LD2v0hRRRWm2vjZo3cN1F0Pncl1aaQWePMaf_qbiXISGJifA-6jpGjDTRBgFPRmkvx3pGU7VfLmkMRaCdZdBX0ec_-yOgTF311kSouBM41rvYK5gOh6ggzp_tsRbBmmgik9K_6U0ZJkXtfki2DuDq5NPKlsQZlgr0_rYhVBeqvY_GQnlvqq98gpsQV4skaUZeKiE4imDWx8T_Owcxlgi9z7D9imJD3APuz3A7hnQcAbTu5Yik5oepUOQGKRQvbMf9LJpNckgX18Ld4mmTauoi-lhMKl8dMGfWqiTrw6k5jI_3IeuKYr9T3cbYH8SiJGOKvnX3Gpx_M1HOFyM5Pmjrd3GVx5Ex2A3ArEuGj1ssCEHZsjIlaTMk14JTTgCXlBpj1Dylu3af-Z2k6KDYUD2--BIqc18pEC8QkjF0hhz8vWV4rK5HO88fSocy_drQr8W-wadEG5FSbXDmLcsPG6NUNE07WiV49zJ6OSA5YLC6T5wycPGWb2jI4L1GS2v3KaBEekUGX5cUt5q-up4jvTlU1JNPuX8GRMe7v2ITeBmoxmZWT2B3MGxJ-g47LOU0a=w1421-h938-no?.jpg)


And some overall shots:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/osaJ3nVI83wSxJ9qRB9FqOY5quPjQKdtDRJsP_X6kybIUgW985n5SDWvzN0UuGlj7PecAQImpT-J7gSDPZ5A626sLYfon_B0X5UW55RiX6s28yuD-Hm3e8SFv5l4wc9NUS-Hs5uVk5tFmeufuLA5hyCi0wyXU8aRV9kbKWfLBEBhcJgv2i-ZKiyWwbPT58vqxacSlqoaE1hSHFjb2cOjyhbaYHiyJR6IKKgSi2O7KDT1E8Sk6CAawixAlkiOaWVW8jvKPdGiW6LlTjdW-IV26UTkKUQqzoYSK_km2oV5nWTjXYDruXEAp8AkLWSknuONCEIi0-HizpMyyb4P7X60lLkz027z9EMI6i84eO7PHoEKHW5ZIqZnYeQ6v8lkMjqxGsufKTAJxxB7oGVA6AMugzPGyoS65d0i0ghbLyRAQwJ4xj3OhZ1yKZkYrqXRds8_ha0IiG9Lu8V_RoFCpRnGWe61Y6Plecb23CvBDm0Qcdf40AvhRNi6TEdyF6NqPgUvs45hrtC39wo1KGCe62RMqFiPOekxPVt6loWPqnxYQoSnulPQuUmTIPSKCPMitQksCfBn6U66m1MhTh-Tvu4ePXgi-dyuX2HKYnibPgOis-E3gIiaKd56OKeFM7kKBTxHG8r-IbOhc-FfAF9YF8J3OmtYSq0-ktV1M25q_h0rImtchcgJb_52dgJTm2_9dMh-a_WRKfAccw3yoTj6W0JAuDBnwTY4rgaCqrspQXz0dUuOYonB=w1524-h280-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8uvG4ooS8bsBhP4DXGTeXr2TRPWbrwlwTF_ef5aLl1G81HaqIwh7hr-GkA7Ub7ZiIxDMulc3cnj3nFuyz959ct0xYy97NBAw3KQfAUf_c9kvEfn08DA1fck8T8eQy2J41In6itCueuGFEfd23sb3eoNkYuSxTjHn6G6rzxs6207yo18wPjueuKLlQz-knb7eC8Lz4TU23xzAGvmDXDS2vklr3Mn9xYie3CSFowZvRXtXbptjdYTpS-1ekhJZWkLDmMk3jj0vZRlBis4M8FWUTVRHbR8URmEvJMbS3TiNb1WI9u0NZXeV9CukNiWUqQcjl11vsGG5uYBkQFnZG-Pj9QImzpPjk8uwqezToMSARVxyO3nHvz2cGlQkPyxwD3jHEjblLJd5wELnrgY2n26xnP3ASXIy2pKs94F1faudYyJi5KRra8UyslrEUbF6oCYFrDJdNTjX133CV5MgUsC9_fATVfOqizXP_ui9KBrH8sI8_E5d4qKvob3JAzMwrCI1l1yeVcejdnxmJQDXn87AcXeFwfu2ENe3vADvbRkFj76giMWezDV699nYm4psdqZeVnrv3lGXURVu10U65CJr_nzv90IWxnZNM-b8AhjIi8XgQ-UxWpPeYBC1p8gQvUi_Bs0LtWwCCMsHR9kZk1ZFeP1nnCKb6hf1X6bN_W5Bkvd9KKSsKq5QJirvKYR7pgtLfYtqmMXaqn2-pjql-xsUq7EVecTdyNj44UQ7OTq6JJkpQaeI=w1524-h318-no?.jpg)

And around the other side of the layout:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8icIORmrL2A3qpq6m3DDG6MOwfwdkG_A5h_PSWInlMPufdWpCY8nLIruOCFvxvFBv4nPUYl-nNqgM1x2G3SaxdE9T5FM3pHVRK9ZP4gK3qrfnM3vxUL6IK6ZLyPcAW88UiHwit0sBXFpRouiJSJhrTzRZnpMTcUGWpRjmOpVQGAbXPDL3ypk8gQfMXqAJZi0xsW3LL5dP9_IDbQRu39Ks8oHMRlEjAbTNVCJ7HyukjKutMiMOFcCILiS1RdAKtnMOT-bwcXegPHNV0RYM14cfQqEQHdowB31GT1K7NOr31mk6dk7fiTP3B0M-_i_B3oBIm0sTE0Biic6Aq9nmHBeNhfDZUWllOLxll0O94cQOgeHDCDRlOLa3BM9DM0x6O6f3FS-spYBXEnQ3lKwg20gDP7FoXrJdan3WlhZYSYqmEXkBLzbh2QInF0s5QYZJkqB3oVnFSxXnl3VBTRicSVU4WBYsLNX5Ddi-yWZDmunbx7WXvVdIPB97yUxVFiLsKaEpnqt3s-VfwlWzTFK8PqhOyH8w05hgKXtEYOtwefghLRH51qpE7CCbYvJGbzImOgxLXOlZklD6OmYEW6NbwdXphp2CoSAT9Rjf9yZotYqYaE7WO-vLiWz6Vbc5MKgI4RLPt4yV-aoX7uwZywBf8rhBb_LBJ2XV9nii1e58UKDSbWShpiXkRjHridKlRQcbNslAk75BNR_cFuoRwxjyzWl8biWFpH0q2c-o68W9URYVLJO8SBI=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qoJJDgHJ0cuaSkdHCbO_zlI7awPLwJ7PuG5wJX-3aCj0xfgxz7E93jYyr97-5W2ivKDnbem-WuPbHuMw-2wcNVcr9IAJhtpRcq5uOMi7nPUHEnOwwWEunTYKaq7qrlbhtHpVdfCzeQFz29Y9ejBthLkC8P2tuTlmXlQV7Qm5MH_a44K-bSJYiy4yyWXmLVcWhAC8ppho1jW9hyAEq9Hc1399fcSYktDEhx7mPhCL89QY-wY5I0WFW-4eV7qLpQzePAZoFAMANJaQAWV1DdQm3qdXIx6-XfA9OjgcnNWI1ZX7jAp2r32EyUuiadGQqCAMWJEfWPFFZBRG9v10usx45GaRAwdTCzGc_yrraSV1-mkDdbu8xOaJ79F7z19ufSszMjhLFlmER4ueSCAjuJyO65yp_XiV1-Kt6PXiMUn1I3qPGfCD1PmJ3ECePOEpqMgdbzPHvhbQ4rFDUQyTK0qwdlE6hx7he26GwCHCjObV88QJ9Tkjcxp0jnW5khx9uQaE5S2eF9U_LA85osHq60gZz7ieGsCVzhL6Vk6xQOlolyUr-mgP00nJf4fCoP_lY2MahcBoMUDc6tTzghMrsn3JMe-TXehAI3VF9RaTJnsIqH9wvT8BV1O2LzKZ2miW54JJ1anIy-5DA6ONPbwnH98brW6tSUsnMaSpO-p-eWiqriN2bmNh9P0rBGawZx1tGI4uX256JXHu1NSRzj2KLlwQY_1NTbzGxipP-9yH6vXsQDxggJBK=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

And finally slapped some initial color on this dump tipple.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7O6YskWdnSHllYAPIe9OjRGjfZrzHOF_Q4xHyguBI3N7OfDcgKQ26Tvh5EYIor9uMxHMkeEE_qCWfhb17LHg9IKrSXUGXTB-qRfuehC6312U3vo6nqbmIdqCT1aFxPHPPi_07YhvEakmPiVj38MOs-_WUjm2k1GYLqfetF46CXOfbsWIbTxjigrQqgbHYRgk8JZ1mi4yQiCbuIX1LVXSjlvaSQ-dw7KJMUFyxVPgOVJOwVL6L7Z_KKkmbDJ2HkhHeK-8vc4oHXzYpHdIC7Rmxto25RT5An2hawOaNnrapdt5C_jEPDhd3Z8CKIm90_oBCfuFGBi6RQk1A7cAnQi-5DHoi7Tk6oToy2qL61f-ePqLIviqakETxsGZMfC21yzXdijcMr_DwgIZ-0X5rTTs7OST6Ph4SZYhgXxa2Mj7F55TUmOZp6sok1GelMOV9TdLHlhT0CjxOnMWa2fqM24JSXnBlebV-8_pGbMVMKzujMM8dK3gYwMKvXD87u-y4GSP-jyBpuw2NTPuF00YJSuey30FagjgHB5texduqU6x4P23VcesC_Js_gU9CpOjsqBH4VrUr0-IycaApNtv1g95UHtQ2oIKiybmLfK91avmUfr4BmDiWAmcoB0NfUcTo08_-5hGkjSwvJglfUncEHGETyFhU9ReVoKVa0HmKTX12ZIUzcVoD5DxgN6fzB0_8jAfg7MWkQ7mpO6iDVjqn_Z0dANsNiFhxVys9Hwb6qmaujhgK2gq=w931-h938-no?.jpg)

Sharp eyes will notice the bell on the roof of the feed mill.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 30, 2019, 05:22:12 PM
Chris,

Everything looks great, the layout is really coming along, I don't know how all you guys work so fast.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 30, 2019, 05:51:02 PM
Chris,

Everything looks great, the layout is really coming along, I don't know how all you guys work so fast.

Scott

It's easy for Chris--he's not of this Earth.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on August 30, 2019, 09:40:36 PM
It's easy for Chris--he's not of this Earth.

Apparently not.
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wm3798 on August 30, 2019, 10:58:41 PM
Your work is one of the inspirations that's sent me back to the drawing board so many times on my HCD design.  Thanks for that.
Lee
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 31, 2019, 03:43:41 AM
Fast?  I pissed half the year away building my VW and haven't touched the layout till now.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/96m7mSeJCapij9tSsmhJicBd88zX8gXpmB3A3776q-rkLqUl-R5RMnm9VMxDkQQrSC8DWMTms7V9VnzFrcB83r47rjEAJPJuSaVofkDWRrOqQ2CEmREX7zSNj5iwUxOLoOYjEypcQNc7oif2CUt4u8cpLiSE0IyB8BLAr4sp2YDwRMqY5ZPn8GBXLdH6Y2FyJpj3mgoRSCwdEyoXxu6NMsMdb4vl_lw4m_w20aNwkO67EDLUzJB01OACvE4wYJ44Gc-5Ss3rUjsXe8Qzs_8oFb4fwjxRtTclaMGt3w40QHrr-Ama9YUNhr1AtIIb8WUv5G_zRnkfIHdmIoELru72JHA_6azHnjGo2C7bR571ozsRS3GZ86hGuCY97mvnrdkk5CoAQBaCW1sKYr-ytOrF3Qdpn0DJtNKrQyUW-lUG2N0B3Sf4X8Nvp0BGgJOZW9Mt4uIQaU5iTZU5ZSk7ZKDFgIU1kCCvpJzjJPMcNOf2XWcKdXyJrVqfWb_DpSD25kN4IbIRk4IcpKWSDp-deRJhfFJATKXd-pvbn29nw20H3us4NWjAHMPZwp_rOdhJiiU7iH0VuuIxoynYAPI5bpsVAiy0NAdZ5N8XbvmyeJFDqsfI2FYNieFFG_37CaQ-inOMIGE2Gha47bqTdbev9mAI2SPT2WZH4h7GmAguS8LTj-WPPFE-LTqOMFRgaMfBjDGLnsbR58PtJsc_uM0WuJW04ob8qsnlGIIb4E1FAPCyQSmTiJPw=w1524-h703-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Steveruger45 on August 31, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Fast?  I pissed half the year away building my VW and haven't touched the layout till now.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/96m7mSeJCapij9tSsmhJicBd88zX8gXpmB3A3776q-rkLqUl-R5RMnm9VMxDkQQrSC8DWMTms7V9VnzFrcB83r47rjEAJPJuSaVofkDWRrOqQ2CEmREX7zSNj5iwUxOLoOYjEypcQNc7oif2CUt4u8cpLiSE0IyB8BLAr4sp2YDwRMqY5ZPn8GBXLdH6Y2FyJpj3mgoRSCwdEyoXxu6NMsMdb4vl_lw4m_w20aNwkO67EDLUzJB01OACvE4wYJ44Gc-5Ss3rUjsXe8Qzs_8oFb4fwjxRtTclaMGt3w40QHrr-Ama9YUNhr1AtIIb8WUv5G_zRnkfIHdmIoELru72JHA_6azHnjGo2C7bR571ozsRS3GZ86hGuCY97mvnrdkk5CoAQBaCW1sKYr-ytOrF3Qdpn0DJtNKrQyUW-lUG2N0B3Sf4X8Nvp0BGgJOZW9Mt4uIQaU5iTZU5ZSk7ZKDFgIU1kCCvpJzjJPMcNOf2XWcKdXyJrVqfWb_DpSD25kN4IbIRk4IcpKWSDp-deRJhfFJATKXd-pvbn29nw20H3us4NWjAHMPZwp_rOdhJiiU7iH0VuuIxoynYAPI5bpsVAiy0NAdZ5N8XbvmyeJFDqsfI2FYNieFFG_37CaQ-inOMIGE2Gha47bqTdbev9mAI2SPT2WZH4h7GmAguS8LTj-WPPFE-LTqOMFRgaMfBjDGLnsbR58PtJsc_uM0WuJW04ob8qsnlGIIb4E1FAPCyQSmTiJPw=w1524-h703-no?.jpg)

Ride height is a bit low 😁
Seriously, looks really good.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: OldEastRR on September 01, 2019, 06:31:21 AM
And the bell on the mill is used for what purpose?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on September 01, 2019, 08:56:46 AM
And the bell on the mill is used for what purpose?

“Vittles!”
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 06, 2019, 12:53:36 AM
The proceedings proceeding this evening:
Lots of tipples had a way to extend the chute so waste tailings could be dumped.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lac4xqQfvxHG6ngN3DT_o7WcblZj5QfldPdw1VZPRARXQdZ3jSkEDCmmwazKbc4f4YxYShfCIfKEqxA4MFO90iWhSisZWTXvKNdIdmVB8epByejAjKaJ2LRsGN_NmLvRMcOlwmelH92yyhiJ0_OphvcSZKDRtWPhvWoFVQcGIje3mNbHfOeQ29TPvfYk6R-M8u-yEK9IhbHhRfH-Fa3lPWQHyRWwjuHa69CrbcjmqRGMaDvyioRdJDEZonj6fsOZRMD_nHe18KlwGSnZS0DQgdHraJCqV-2UuCOAfvvYj8nwBGiXfgwq351sbhI0iM9Stg6CFp9EC4qOYemUkthaH2fkjKrHKqMZhxU75nAy3HMpuZRPfujYdYesm5fjz1QhBSTSOHycrEcbWhzd_TeP5Xc-VZRcg8APj8smUKCuoWUgLGwEKVvBlwVQHF4gC6i2PW8BbrHz6nv1hbPhdFS1EWnb8lAUf-O-PaU7yp6i_jwIRYLMSp0nWex_gKKNVdAw2mBFTKOwtGjYeOxs4T0pgA3gxEBkhp0BUsUn8BfE-dma6Mg8QWQD5ctHRvDAoKi-7wquwKM2q5D9L7NVgaSzq-yFdAqhSMN8Cfcq94S19mxHPoNaek52_-vEK_yH2jdLBUCKL8SgHPDPLz_MAJZtY7MXDy3sH7XEFCOmSPTyuCxhFo9pTiif69jDk0OAEwxRfvaFHgmj-bbLx0MuFKrepjBewL2OOUX0V-y0a52bqxg6DSKk=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

Then I poured some water:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T0yCGEgtpuq3oitQ92LSLlZD5O-Pl-YHFCZD7flh2XBu5QoI2cSw2XzbHH7zS81Rd4JjsMxUuDDGiDcwZfkSXR4dNJbExjdWAY2C6JkKEB6WTyI3N8Dp1Li5Jyym6o4NlkZU3dwJejU2ilN-Js9UzDvvQwOd3rjqWkBjMZ3UbbNvhRRdQMI5oMRiNO-hd0J20coA5A0S7szJSvHk01erjBNxPveG8QpOwK4jqBqprjx3UBAw7i0jLodoxOrWHT5_-6AyR-NPma8G7PVJGSuQiXbg5pDLA_CZumu5sYCEZxveuiWm3Yqw9IQWEgYhhwKxuRgQMe7y33MMvc5GDF6tqeLJK1JGDjckfFDJhes2kVlRyet0EEZIPQnvlcod313l7M5ntLoIv9-0bG78J8gN18am2GymUYqdtImM9Dazmna1QbrzlCiZ9wKTylAyYnkFdQVod2Jj1GBWTLMBp7UrIPgaa4GkZREEoDmR7roPfXIGVO9KTGVFm7KIXS998BcnCZ_b9BoJoJG62qkEHs7JipXvePUPXMNNrbgr5VKm3QYfqtObCsslssjtJvr6OYbWgYWXzm5ODfq8dnYwaEc7PrK-a-coSiv-JRxjKVEJuQaYE6XdIYcXjuZwEjo6nobMgtTf-qaGbKbkw8WFOEXqV161llQOcNurMq6OrhpFhD10h6r5lNviaj6hPGM207VBw_dCeRnz4x1qN-Ywh6-EfLtvvLn93AGlWcnm_FXoC_P--Stj=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

Just a thin coat that I will build up with gloss gel.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M0f3ZczXAyqjTJT_L3KH4SO2mVN6iha2r7GhYHaT2Oikw35MTw_T8YoHYK0BYIRRyw5gb6M2yg_mo77nrvUWttXQpOgzGHO3P2MwGpD4AbIUBCzSMBTZfPO8QEvqVsuYrRmt0LetOS8K9zS_LLKPAdfvOjGsr1ZZQm6Ln9BTTL9_QNavoQyW0mo_gTN9mNyRB0MxDLS5tiFdYTBGhmJ3_1YX2gv9ozcOerJgXeTeJVqGpiIc2M0XvmtTBjgbI-PGS8UzgzOZebzr9jPaxJJA0xkn5HQvxC5xLSw1sH4VPyqAbWJqoIVzN6RMtfqqRQBDROGdXK_qEM0VZvdYlxwS5NBLGHQ6kBeLPAYlK2bFMA2EKX6UN7ArydL-fzun5cEu7RhoNjS7OnBQv0E-PU0Q7uxHdVOYqJEssh5_VPMY-JiXmRxYz5mDfvdjgP-xFtSiJJnjVhIGbmJ5wmTSTWeimLjtCPpV0Qe_IZq9_ktaiaZIZrXTNN31E-atwC2aug2PLLNves6M0lzRDZpvblzRuCC8XsjC3J0zmvCMb3B8Ye9h4Rp7V56rwvTErb3NpSZmQnWfjA5VKDLiw13ovZ0g-WCZjfdRefTpziFLyvcNi4Qx2oAGc-OH9CmaksdhRucXgh_ZlUao-8brLgGUykOzxWaztenQpMgshma-BGYXNlYml5gYpd5m6cnQyJDsCDuCdYfsdSKk1gN4Fzv64BbzdUQsCPjBM6ANzDRoJaWv18SZSkpJ=w1500-h855-no?.jpg)

Stitched view of this side.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/quRAurZgYkqgibvJJj-giopEBZzVp2LUeXd9_H-l5NMsdprk35pBUTaFky9R23weCml_ma5-nWASwEHdyZVdN835JLlvThfjoNjbF3IvZwWrw_YpkX5-AKClzIyYP65zTk3fd4Q35PX8dOPkJ71obS-ML3zi2JWywmX4-A6jRWyNJ_SIRIiBbS6WLfOipP_RH9yC2fP3WdVvfYU_1o59Vl5BqMIMZ9gGzqbNyazt_WlP7zWPlz7w_5uGiLTITnK1WVYqFrQd-LAwwFNORim40PH5HyRe6BQpl1bXHBoBB-927oHWSRyd5xot9PtJpMZfFLzfKR0JGzkJ_SumJDgD6KcQ3I-l38sXi7JgDFS_xmRipkSg66I2dRwAyZwoxK53H0xbS4UwyaaxBuufVxQwYIxiMhPL6HeHwIh4cOgrDBuz5KeDyFdb82E3zZ69Uhg9U22SAhoDep2IiMdDR6gwm4bopYBryQW-_LEKcrzaj2NsM3tNkx0oKML66aZP8ve1g3uvWa47MovCqfmC9lG7AMC6qw_Y3tJJ9z_1s3OcmXxp1lsCU9xxJiTsYVXjXanAUS8unKdslIf1JKg0vLWGE9m-kZsQqYYUrnBeZTmoQf5oQ91PmFizINnxmwRwp-bbt66BSSOJg0WOslx9LP_tpUI22NPbtx7DVdwLeQ9yM_bJhxSTcgfjIwnOUv8KFOZpCtCAFKQs02x1yDinR2u_cS6sjgbjzyLUUH76UYZuHfeVA7NS=w1500-h392-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 08, 2019, 04:49:44 PM
Meanwhile back in town all the buildings have been removed for ballast. With my trusty clip on fan drying things for me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zbnW9T-ekuurYM-Yu3nl1NPDIqXnbVYD4DplfAqEqWpkYq7X1O5aTDX9E2QJLEObaRTDe_V6TwRNgWzqRsrtrf2HYbOqmDYcb20E-7c8QWYuCVmF1AQbwPp1AIvMFb4rKKpoWRXHXTdmLvVtdlHoxMKGG7vDHL0pkC6KGAMcfSgVdwUgQs__PMXiQPLDnuIre4iS1Z7seNhbtnN_oxoZtiR5brFBdPPO0bys6IO15y6V8KFmhuawnvaLO7nPRAbRujjVyENtsxVK502iTP-2bd9R2FX7V3CsepQ2xPIrNzADrX6V8TDLlm0yN41XE3AiqmXM8LTkdBmYrYTxYzxPDjUPPYY-kle3dgRXgNLZCFe4R3-nE5tqt1DL9gnCAWENVT2bKHLE_K-NWxxS9ZFAnQXUNpNEGAZvKkqg8RXUiC7lwvu5p9FbwrHZtAYVvqe4GR69tC1GlG0OfDdkLxg8Zmo_3lanGz0_2tOfYglM3eoIs5dug-7WOGePCEBtbeyXj2qFNjqqPkhq-_VPdnovJI4w3bcB1IscCe5vP0qu6nUHInmZQJnIrqhIYhZ4_Hbmq2Mg7WCKZtWbFU8tG_XMLFP595QUUoS_YkonM7ERs5EZu1mKxnZoFau8pegowBW_aQcEOjqGnZn8NQ6PNuO6xYClO-8fTiEN996HjnzIM5Mp0YtlG2-m4DxDlev8idq5BKBgfS-1cGoCeuXfE6AgG7aiQHjCRkm_KpZSoqKrndQm24x8=w1500-h929-no?.jpg)

Some dry stuff.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nqj5G0q5hjEYRrEqs9d-11_IoZh_At-e39Yd9aI3tX0553_65brO-U42ZuGifas09F33gEyjYyK1abXM-J72Bo81ORMuXOEjBwxptCN_Ez7u09xImvSv0mLp6-uN0J6IcEmhiJYVvIbgK9LVJhWEmYdz4hn3hDbya6BDjW7VXcpbHwtCKTWucd2yq5oZLgE9-iTnaf2jVx-bVowGftG3R32_KpruGQ2rF5swxRcNbYhp6Fiv1TdF8Jb11IREW4sughN5lJ3ceO81-rd04-1DmNzAmSww929es5eQs6Wc1j6GQEH58CST_Owy1EiNP6J1vm_mGvhdgHxK4-58MQ9mdl9PbxRWYy6DpwNuhZe4tRmi1eMDlP4amBUEVhUHNnTt-GMi0Bq9XyByY1kcX_LvYa_W2c9jh5C24yskRe5yVEDxIK8Ne8vFVEdIb2dVFq7nUz_NGgeYaG5A8qMIJ30q4nNIl8JvoHAqP6s3EAx4YUeO2LxUWcyH_QG0Fe1a3tKhOGYErLpvG3V4YFyl654hNuml_a23cRdOJ5BqUdDLWmjzfNF29qqH6ApsmnnklmAL7_rvlojuDyIRqLN3xWJPoE8ejoJJiND-YY5FQBKMMyBrGaBLxwi0Hj4Q3rGJQ6dxaTzKK-qT607Ea3voW_oH6OkRe8XqqGEhtZ65peFc9d-_QXDW0MO5twgJrkbSyVzGHLidR1bJYiXaZFwB8LjTDVRn9yXAiACD69mzMBJh9UoPaW68=w1500-h885-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 09, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
Amazing what a little bit of dirt can do.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SIpFFIDqId9Anu6GGjblTJc1daCPHbCAL6vF_xnjd-LhBS2yk1fUlca6zz6DjXWrNaftxdr3JZ8zq4ytkuLiqODjYtShC08zTneFP06ARFuBkvkdwGq1MrYznnrJhhltj84_2IakrAVz0scz-wvgir-dCg_XVA6XkKweHOvIZjjAz9_UqBv1eKB7htoYu_siRI1Hn6mmbOvVkDyzGH_KytDOBwkBPKDp4_ZIyZoGaJWPI0fHRvdrHAmQlAlNREiLm6HrS8QUhGzvcIKiW62VNsKl0rdjEqHJlj7EDwCJ4XOxSuGO6UO0tXYnceFK_fA3l7XOl2JAWtkWH6_jBdv9cDn-ySVUrsjSVRQhfrbjnsyG6oumVsE3a3-eaBxb9VguBdhRiQI0j3svwM5czur4Cn6L7zc9ZciqgxMNtiGfd5Tt6isAZGjJ4MNvufk6HviiCR_t8Tc5t2MrJjIH2wFuBvIQUdpJQpV8iSeseu9JcQMnqSVMKeGPIYj-11TdRI8gc2vv1OVbaRW57WktoPvMYsa4NY8OxHSFHFMOsrwbhcSrSrx_sa7GYbF8hP4j_t-LNaHrmKIKltsqT7E3YlG_jZec8Dq5oDWO5j61iC3Q5O3r2mCnFYhNZBdZioRtOa44orGPb7bRGsUkJo-VY3IWstPW8kqBo3cwKfYUtsOL9czOuaLwJC_HafIZ9xNrg8cOnjp6Js7Ab1pr_k7l4vS3-Cyxy0rAJRgplaJx1wE8ATm_7EDn=w1500-h808-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/724g0OMk-096nY7wBDST2Pn_JF7oFTKsZ-kfelnx16keuNuP3LpwtQHKfGMOfZgTPVOH5HxSNoMQstJPp6-sjZEVdVoHPaoQTBxYGQX_uCU_u198mwvAVpJE9wsPcT8rOBStF8qs8iebtcegstu0AMT1E59o0RlLcvsK2OAEwZObzBvhuoUB56muyNSXvBlBQr4fxZDRqzXXY0fcvz4x3kGtmxAfIgnodAmgU_vMVbJoaxE5_WMshWReZu1DHb3y3AQkEFAUGcDZgVGaRBGB7PZA-4MsnAXwQDr_MHW5HvPrtq_x1arDkFjjQNFz-zqGDRTNXPEasJjZ9894mln8gBKWaf24t5sSNZETH4K3V5_BrQ_ImIxfXNXoJqVG-i63OQc5Gysaia2evXgFJohag9rqUwz7ldbUO2nI_HGd6gaoYg8L5l37sHcIluzV4AJuwqyRk0OXt5yTO2nkAQt7vLx0cynkrRhjcLlHc9AKmWnLM8_l-jSAbLgpEMR5y0EeWwPi-8Z5jFPkhvenxQsIolGLKdtZ3lyNvkoCGF4MvqAMtApNMmwdEt7P-1gnDzjR-Qu8o-alwkNbeftJ1u-vsstPxLjIDS7hxp61F0UnH8e2jVsWwIy2KweMckmoI2MqpzQtF7SaTD2eIAAIk_htwnHZGuBn-yRK88Vvp1uc0Ale4gSFLpVSkBFiWH3LmCzfYm0rQkafiAFWRo8M5nLslklq8jVfSvdhWH42474Pvp-URxqb=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MttkjG0tE8-SmtAvm2DYs49BHMlsbuDai0JzIv14xiTr0V_WM4b5CKbAMYzoiFNA_R1rcg6xgAT0D9sc8fmBqyrKqAXbtU5adwP7YULmhNd4oLBwDdm114vp_MxD3fORkxeS6sTovPy_NLN2ZMmUwNgKdNNZzWVmVH59BfAd_vkP6eXsNCB4PThauOZ_ILI36mezd_OouFF8Z9KE9I3vB_T-xXE17Pw_dFdjSxL0Gt0WWKYfEdxnrZ33bPdsADQKOZOuN8eY6GHG-t0Vs08ANOSypE-7trGfI396VmC9_GecPNY9_BNf-sKytBBb9d4JzFFbk_WlJTQFB6pMhMTvuUPTEdK1wUxt6gFZQWboY1nxFxjkH5IV9_dKzvCcQI1nmkr6KCttMG0klqZFq30PxvwKF-I09zesu7EoMIp9CVxiHp37VmAtRrRGdAEXeXDdWery-ONAqNjHICi8KDR1V68ZMTzn1Af3dc_lxur2Gqaxq4ph_-cUXb9ToAuUB7LCRVzz-1rF4HhJ9hyuSWH7WGwE6q03lb1iouthVhvj0jy2xq88HXdMjjS1XznivAwMgi5TTAFKM30Kynx4rkL-mH33qj2Rf711PjGl4zbxwH8KNmY-LKes9RHKuSVzGwRggp3_oDpcET00KK5FI3ZmuF6DJ2KlGu6-qDcfLMMFB9oRIrT-sYP-ti_wkWLeVHPu5noHj1XKGFuKKEtvAZ1v22bfEDp5UyLos9ZaSYC1Wn2PEyve=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
Still need to "work in" the buildings better, but just having a base coat down looks much better than painted foam.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on September 09, 2019, 07:51:58 PM
I agree... hence my modeling mantra...

Needs More Dirt.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 11, 2019, 12:04:39 AM
Slapped some black paint up on the fascia:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WX9AkVVFlQ5GMqeT3sJ-rAbqULkzfi77lKaSaSbMJiJF4GjIHZIGd57zkTkUpPv-O6YNwH7dNOUK9AN6Ho-33kKoJHca-QPAtQUY-hwjPujWIfSorkLfnavYZufJiXVw9snLKt1Z9gpTN9xlHVGTEfLDFzuHIcJh1yWVC5lqIR0zBLsuYrgOpQltuCVTwVQA4M53p-BUO75E1XHlsX0cIwaVgqECsQYndqWkh1t9_Wt9LRRqiRxfI4Vxa1oivjsOltmrMUyY_jhmEIQJdfuwgl4SBfPBVbjsTzoxHiJJNV0P-zNIK5f7FeEdHBnfB1CyLV5Vw25aYXbNup3bAQyBJkZmnX7Wnjk_zbk_OXGmNx5bKUI5q6mld87EHuUbIs00Ef58j7HQ5ljkvtmsYx6yrP6C0_q9cJOAS-cJFggcxCjRQ2n75in1jawjyMvohOMzgHl_qlmo6NHQqtqlnc8A2Ytg3Qv02cOdMI6q2GvyH9NPYY95bLJd7T9iijLWL4GHYHFrHXcMB7i6TKRQcQGCipSropf1lpCKvZw-uDlmRa3XjUrv2p-hAz1xTf5-g1tjcsUUDwnr4Ho1fs4CQcFc-Z1m8iddmlSxfSYqbb0ZT8uD8pJvEeaNwqKXR8QIWhML18DYXn7P8jHHsPblyRnZXIDymc8LzgScBDLt0cbJZI5HggUmeh7Ew4DJJp-_YEk4fra7nfq4FruT7qHHpZkE1ADJJgjEwplETdd0ELwGeDpxGjYo=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

And started working on the waterfalls
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3_EpAKvYQ9dQ-t3uqI8V4yCn7-V6CsKG9MXjNCKVjh3T9fYnvwQUl-uRdR0hCBBJGmNJ_C1W1XM7ChQz-UF4WndL84RG6RTqPSlUOxeYxPRCavKmggrE4TA0GtM3H7XiXeQMGlQr9XVlIJzQtqGpDtmcQilBYEuqIMDrP2-a9wmcLPg7RBLMU-TA3cXhYOHRulwy3igv05qDtmniZhZ-K_FZc6Ckh0IZsugPe_84yl2_-m7HxNd9j6o7gO5lkTM8WgFLyxPcaTYPpDm6jvLNLvMXZ33zVA2tj9umCP13acWnsgJIAUgsHF4EWL-_FVpf-6H2IqkAcXC0D2M57oOJFyrPe6AOEumctRZ0uQNSRFlUWXk9bPhrU1KLQcWrcltyJnua0U1SNmSa6Vw9w7BN0JyFfW21Spr_K8bePMe-rtvA9WTx0lDFOgfglLxB2gAlxDpFXI66w4I4fef0ROpmrDXCXfhoMXhPrt2LH1XDWjTo8pebvaZIC9EpgZf4kRvgKqMl4jv34Mbv2HOfZ6MEUNbLTDjvH6xGYa0qmzJy3yCqO20ZHm90XfD3Sn8rp87bDwUxFk1haU8V6EWZ14PytxqKC49BSPRR2O__Lq71MnA4Avqfn0Bed74VlhRRakZbw_sUcIH-VUeXN9pY0gHvjQrMyP0hW4Za8fmknPI8nbV4M_KD3W3ySs2IsxlAv3jjCZciZhnKNwMQ33L7ENxqAwmWT9qO8S78MLNPOWmO2OiChnQi=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on September 11, 2019, 01:36:58 AM
Man, your layouts are always the shiz!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on September 11, 2019, 10:09:27 AM
Man, your layouts are always the shiz!

What he said.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on September 13, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
Chris
well done in every way
your work is enjoyed and appreciated
following along is fun and inspirational
sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: johnb on September 13, 2019, 02:33:59 PM
Slapped some black paint up on the fascia:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WX9AkVVFlQ5GMqeT3sJ-rAbqULkzfi77lKaSaSbMJiJF4GjIHZIGd57zkTkUpPv-O6YNwH7dNOUK9AN6Ho-33kKoJHca-QPAtQUY-hwjPujWIfSorkLfnavYZufJiXVw9snLKt1Z9gpTN9xlHVGTEfLDFzuHIcJh1yWVC5lqIR0zBLsuYrgOpQltuCVTwVQA4M53p-BUO75E1XHlsX0cIwaVgqECsQYndqWkh1t9_Wt9LRRqiRxfI4Vxa1oivjsOltmrMUyY_jhmEIQJdfuwgl4SBfPBVbjsTzoxHiJJNV0P-zNIK5f7FeEdHBnfB1CyLV5Vw25aYXbNup3bAQyBJkZmnX7Wnjk_zbk_OXGmNx5bKUI5q6mld87EHuUbIs00Ef58j7HQ5ljkvtmsYx6yrP6C0_q9cJOAS-cJFggcxCjRQ2n75in1jawjyMvohOMzgHl_qlmo6NHQqtqlnc8A2Ytg3Qv02cOdMI6q2GvyH9NPYY95bLJd7T9iijLWL4GHYHFrHXcMB7i6TKRQcQGCipSropf1lpCKvZw-uDlmRa3XjUrv2p-hAz1xTf5-g1tjcsUUDwnr4Ho1fs4CQcFc-Z1m8iddmlSxfSYqbb0ZT8uD8pJvEeaNwqKXR8QIWhML18DYXn7P8jHHsPblyRnZXIDymc8LzgScBDLt0cbJZI5HggUmeh7Ew4DJJp-_YEk4fra7nfq4FruT7qHHpZkE1ADJJgjEwplETdd0ELwGeDpxGjYo=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

And started working on the waterfalls
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3_EpAKvYQ9dQ-t3uqI8V4yCn7-V6CsKG9MXjNCKVjh3T9fYnvwQUl-uRdR0hCBBJGmNJ_C1W1XM7ChQz-UF4WndL84RG6RTqPSlUOxeYxPRCavKmggrE4TA0GtM3H7XiXeQMGlQr9XVlIJzQtqGpDtmcQilBYEuqIMDrP2-a9wmcLPg7RBLMU-TA3cXhYOHRulwy3igv05qDtmniZhZ-K_FZc6Ckh0IZsugPe_84yl2_-m7HxNd9j6o7gO5lkTM8WgFLyxPcaTYPpDm6jvLNLvMXZ33zVA2tj9umCP13acWnsgJIAUgsHF4EWL-_FVpf-6H2IqkAcXC0D2M57oOJFyrPe6AOEumctRZ0uQNSRFlUWXk9bPhrU1KLQcWrcltyJnua0U1SNmSa6Vw9w7BN0JyFfW21Spr_K8bePMe-rtvA9WTx0lDFOgfglLxB2gAlxDpFXI66w4I4fef0ROpmrDXCXfhoMXhPrt2LH1XDWjTo8pebvaZIC9EpgZf4kRvgKqMl4jv34Mbv2HOfZ6MEUNbLTDjvH6xGYa0qmzJy3yCqO20ZHm90XfD3Sn8rp87bDwUxFk1haU8V6EWZ14PytxqKC49BSPRR2O__Lq71MnA4Avqfn0Bed74VlhRRakZbw_sUcIH-VUeXN9pY0gHvjQrMyP0hW4Za8fmknPI8nbV4M_KD3W3ySs2IsxlAv3jjCZciZhnKNwMQ33L7ENxqAwmWT9qO8S78MLNPOWmO2OiChnQi=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)
that made a huge difference
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on September 13, 2019, 03:13:26 PM
Slapped some black paint up on the fascia:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WX9AkVVFlQ5GMqeT3sJ-rAbqULkzfi77lKaSaSbMJiJF4GjIHZIGd57zkTkUpPv-O6YNwH7dNOUK9AN6Ho-33kKoJHca-QPAtQUY-hwjPujWIfSorkLfnavYZufJiXVw9snLKt1Z9gpTN9xlHVGTEfLDFzuHIcJh1yWVC5lqIR0zBLsuYrgOpQltuCVTwVQA4M53p-BUO75E1XHlsX0cIwaVgqECsQYndqWkh1t9_Wt9LRRqiRxfI4Vxa1oivjsOltmrMUyY_jhmEIQJdfuwgl4SBfPBVbjsTzoxHiJJNV0P-zNIK5f7FeEdHBnfB1CyLV5Vw25aYXbNup3bAQyBJkZmnX7Wnjk_zbk_OXGmNx5bKUI5q6mld87EHuUbIs00Ef58j7HQ5ljkvtmsYx6yrP6C0_q9cJOAS-cJFggcxCjRQ2n75in1jawjyMvohOMzgHl_qlmo6NHQqtqlnc8A2Ytg3Qv02cOdMI6q2GvyH9NPYY95bLJd7T9iijLWL4GHYHFrHXcMB7i6TKRQcQGCipSropf1lpCKvZw-uDlmRa3XjUrv2p-hAz1xTf5-g1tjcsUUDwnr4Ho1fs4CQcFc-Z1m8iddmlSxfSYqbb0ZT8uD8pJvEeaNwqKXR8QIWhML18DYXn7P8jHHsPblyRnZXIDymc8LzgScBDLt0cbJZI5HggUmeh7Ew4DJJp-_YEk4fra7nfq4FruT7qHHpZkE1ADJJgjEwplETdd0ELwGeDpxGjYo=w1500-h844-no?.jpg)

Between the Juniata Division and your layout, I seriously may consider a black fascia on my layout- something that I've never done before.  I always went with an earth tone as if the ground had been sliced open at the edge of the layout.  But, your fascia really makes the scenery pop.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on September 13, 2019, 03:30:51 PM
Between the Juniata Division and your layout, I seriously may consider a black fascia on my layout- something that I've never done before.  I always went with an earth tone as if the ground had been sliced open at the edge of the layout.  But, your fascia really makes the scenery pop.

DFF

Funny, I went away from black.  Sure, it works great for popping scenery, especially the deep greens of Eastern scenery.  However, it does tend to darken the space.  For the Rio Grande Southern I went with a neutral gray/brown that was on the same color palette as the "greige" walls the basement was finished with.  It works well without darkening the room as much...plus I'm modeling a drier area.  Vegitated, yes, but the colors overall are somewhat drier than what you guys are doing.

If I were still doing East Coast I might consider black again.  However, at the same time, I do like how much brighter the layout space is without black fascia and black curtains.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on September 13, 2019, 03:38:37 PM
Funny, I went away from black.  Sure, it works great for popping scenery, especially the deep greens of Eastern scenery.  However, it does tend to darken the space.  For the Rio Grande Southern I went with a neutral gray/brown that was on the same color palette as the "greige" walls the basement was finished with.  It works well without darkening the room as much...plus I'm modeling a drier area.  Vegitated, yes, but the colors overall are somewhat drier than what you guys are doing.

If I were still doing East Coast I might consider black again.  However, at the same time, I do like how much brighter the layout space is without black fascia and black curtains.

Hmm.  You raise a good point, Dave, and darkening the space has always been my concern.  But, again, that looks so good on Chris' layout, that I may consider trying.  It's only a coat or two of paint after all.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 13, 2019, 03:49:54 PM
For this 2x5' layout I have about 400watts of LED bulbs around it. Most of the time I make sure to look down when I flip the switch cause it's gonna be bright.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Steveruger45 on September 13, 2019, 04:11:05 PM
For this 2x5' layout I have about 400watts of LED bulbs around it. Most of the time I make sure to look down when I flip the switch cause it's gonna be bright.

Black does work well in well lit areas and small layouts.  I like it Chris.  On round the walls layouts I tend to go neutral like an olive drab sort of color, something that highlights but not overwhelm the scenery.  Anything but that hideous bright green.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 18, 2019, 04:35:29 PM
So the one little coal mine was torn out of another tiny layout I'd built. I stripped off all the trees and anything else that was worth keeping and now it's time for the trash.

Was:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2jfS5pI6pbu8qOsAjMf4kUPwcZJujGPQF6ciqm6usUJ1LsBSwdZoWJqt0rsH2V5u3IO7OHY5UQCKtmFHrfXwL1xNeEWP9coyh4LTYPYE5YIe62Gc19VFkP2a4p5QzbS1l1Fj11tJN7quzQKzZLfnfrrcrXXSeIIj2-77s7o7VKmaeLrjIG1z6w3hKd_svUi-5Q0uU3kbR5a6ASxqyUkhaZhmB5IhaetCyZoFejDu3gfoQxlAQuRYwQnscDdwOH-lsMDfGR-GAUN_VIfEbnzJya40c2NFDylF1zFNs6OCfVa39_DJXCfdSmJzxQG6rTikcyYjTZsp4123JVjJW8LhrSSiGx3YfHh6YU5TeUDVkwQ8Ek7YYwQLAoklU8pzfAnvaVI-9X13xMwmhkZaj0PSyYHVLp_-pwIMH-4bjXIEc3ISbDTAbImaOSYlJiy7d572Sh8VyHh_Vq77jFZwJC_mBJlD9jdw6WDyQNO3WQRZctqXYuaAXTrHdMb_UFMRiGqGog3FhjR8VRaQpkIkabcQ2pWSXkQkUuPkqwcUH8uJ8lV5Z5K7gDgHH6DEKJ-1BRy6LQbXahLvD-MvZzgkAkLD8qn8UOpTJqBxyt5XLZqc4WFNDXYnQKaiSVh7nbnMiP-v438Q6SLYE1M2GZ5GRSlFXyskCNdOJfQNtpk1UdoQ13EfUCAjGFxPeIJXy505J2i44AP1KS3ClFiCwzFh7nPSwOPntZPxiRFJfWc8yKTUQnbVC5ps=w1524-h503-no?.jpg)


Now:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qjQB4kzAXxHdFNnmhu6w1YOZyLxLI7xiy92vrfg2Y9tQfF48CG-gqm9nvMRJAdURFtum9Ijfdh7tOUbzMq2Qd9qsIKD-FjRb_HJEgvzBv0HcmWxlzM4TDvhrxZVO8Nl95BvpCJA8lRJppNtSn3hPrXKNczKoYYN7l0CcaNLUkufr5zKG0CAN-AdnkqWcqnRNt8ecHa5JkjQ-fy-d50jSd8AkVnfdcEyQJ9OtpFa4hCwyhqrVhAaVKM3NxrNncoaTXkxkzkjcE0eM2rpe_DMdDYUi2kYcB-QFxs9AxdUmoAuV217jGVPgrprtAeplj_46o3I5hTNbeJwHiZPzSr3OH4k2Pcq8Q2Myvl6Vft0TsYEGZxPDvtipKDZeQA5klmpkjAM_FqmR6KwHomzGIb0yI0X035kW4TjSOBWvYbOb5rmUe1PBiQTExbjq9Y-rThbUqa3aDi9cwFNqk19d38C9Q7ocUSs0azVjfZiX3h6Ms613gfNFF_q2rjdV6qRaPio1hiB4fmZCTb5wuvPPk787AkitZf5n3eEcYd4707XBLfshFp3P6y1i3J9Usgu4ZnMKmYcTsRBDwyLx2IZBaD_WGCtkBgiDN4Ss1SVU1k-hAAn8emXWKqazzlxyenrJykt5jt91CaVWe2vepNEEWqaYfz4Rr96HVXRpIKyf3mUNLtaTtpPT3-5wboDENAL7sqdkcxA5okkvOLatowN7UEMgY-lJTNruFNSnE5uM8xMCpXOMHqET=w1500-h746-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on September 18, 2019, 04:40:43 PM
But, but, the other rocks and the trestle?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 18, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
I did peel away the rubber rocks, but the trestle just got a karate chop  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on September 18, 2019, 04:46:00 PM
I did peel away the rubber rocks, but the trestle just got a karate chop  :P

Haha, I love it. There's a real freedom in doing that.

Although you could always have pulled it out and sold it as a Chris333 Original for $1000.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on September 18, 2019, 05:40:11 PM
So the one little coal mine was torn out of another tiny layout I'd built. I stripped off all the trees and anything else that was worth keeping and now it's time for the trash.
...

Say whaaat? WTf? After how many pages?
You lost me...I don’t get it :?
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on September 18, 2019, 05:47:30 PM
Haha, I love it. There's a real freedom in doing that.

Although you could always have pulled it out and sold it as a Chris333 Original for $1000.

I would've burned that mofo and filmed the process.   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 18, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Say whaaat? WTf? After how many pages?
You lost me...I don’t get it :?
Otto K.

This is a small 13x44" layout with very sharp curves. I liked the coal mine so I tore it and the surrounding scenery out and plopped it down on the newer 26x60" layout.

Tore it out of here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aM-xk9BBYNWsPG5R4giDv8wTjTPD9jmCudqlKDxw4WyOk1-DN9oxnikAQhHsIgA54Zd5hiFwoIfDnHkQ0s5DjwtUQE8j4kE622e8U60TRuxpLGkjlkpaunwA6aX1hEIXzNloC6Nled4PC-61QhsSudTBQr6-19qlA8C-FVMZRdKZhqqPRYcoVtaOLdMW8y6gVCbTkqQr-Ah2inJgAJHn9mTTizdIWphoGKBnSwvO1rrJMjdUrZIPnpNQ3PFTmKqVAhpLHb2UhM1cfrgy_U7X6NESYFIBMTcSCNkhSS_SP5LqMoKczE3Gz0MRI32Q_XOpAV73W2CfZXcDf3zEmbWIUyR92x5XRdAzqk4oQYtA5BF2lqOIkTY-9O8lMYqyi31ilztIgl0iXBj1oN5ZevpecVfaZWylJyQ3LwO0jDQ72oPQfxLhEOcwoQLI7i0ocYJvuHWsMqWicKO6AnfdXRsm0cK5qiVgy9mx6CoW3irP722ogz3Tcqi4KMSCJNExuaeUL4wJ-R1DQAfjPLFS-tYoVw7BTXQDvVFE8JuYSQWtSOktd3oX8mac30kymuFBqeLBF0p0WgBGA12_VfsCY5D3Wz8CR-hT5_WLVy8Y7Dr5Gzh8aKt22E4Sb-VDf7mxfcasFJHO2E7ln1nOBCzAT6JoQMwJZmHmQy1plfk7Ke5-HRc80AWIIS1FaPV08KsaFkgweFct8FoZmsELFfsWFkd7On6Xc_e9xDjS8x01eUjJssU5uf1K=w1524-h662-no?.jpg)

And put it here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0Yb7PO4ro-oVr-fVL4kiR02GXxQq6cGhQgZoQMr58Txjxz974Y7xNEfUMchVXaA1hw_-oqi9P8rJZFfyfrwgYEi3Mr9DOvHZ903w9bRL7pGHf-Atwn8POfH5kSKnQgUjfbpUMel19xg9S4vQSNsKk7ux-5etTdGL-fhhT9MOuVLalMt4knEEdVkSkH_7jyUPvUYR2D7gAf-t4vB8ldzSmW0pCsjSRWpcak6eCVM3K80SZQnU0bXIEWvSboGYaeIJo6OpZc-QkATdL5GT70FcvVSSuJv50PC1LWRxBH1jChbH7eFYsplWAQzhRr0r43PhAQS9pztjiux4Y0SZ4MmOkJl_5pHszMPCReTS3vdCL3l-Yxjd4tkALrFXE4dncIw6LfKOV1DHgw72jhxou0T1yGGNjK9hxuyKirUUxyJbc31I1os-REgU9RbdKZuIMdKDbtMZpEKSUZcfBMG7Jk3qYDzN1C0zIiD3xhFZ3_MCW44o0r2L5LcsooFxM66IKF4kDLNuX26SVP27PrntgETVBroKFZq2rv-VLMqnga323nnNLNuW_h0vRFK2qyYfhEXFPWlBeeNo11X31S4AkvQvA2HPHRPcMCzQZakTFHK_0I1eX6squFhI1_hvSCpooSlxQYxhn_eMA-N0vVmlOvEc6z3wMrblleZlmfwrH_JmXRkFWKqvg1yWh9perYHl6-jK-YGi38t54jh6h8GvwUhYR8x69HO8ryVsMWOsxITxS_FYVPps=w1356-h939-no?.jpg)

The old layout could only handle very small locomotives.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dem34 on September 18, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
Scared us for a second there.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on September 18, 2019, 11:15:22 PM
No way to save those beautiful turnouts?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 18, 2019, 11:27:11 PM
Turnouts are less than $2 to build. Plus don't tell anyone, but neither of those work.  ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 07, 2019, 05:12:20 AM
For reasons I cannot figure out I haven't touched the layout in about 2 weeks now. But here was a craptastic video I took back then.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on October 07, 2019, 02:21:14 PM
JFRTM.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on October 07, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
Love that river scene, you really nailed that one.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on October 08, 2019, 11:02:30 AM
This is a small 13x44" layout with very sharp curves. I liked the coal mine so I tore it and the surrounding scenery out and plopped it down on the newer 26x60" layout.
...
The old layout could only handle very small locomotives.

Ahh, now I get it; you decided to go BIG this time :D
Had me worried there...
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 21, 2020, 05:03:41 AM
Hey look I did something. Based on a bunch of Class A Climaxes, but totally made up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tm0IZQDg0iFREAVXy7zcKmTkfG_pjv1DKHTkq0A2wT-EOlNCh0EYfb65Tv96h5te2ue_gAWk0g3e-MFB5d6UR0VTZIBfbcdb3TXCLtir_P76g8--UCFRw0BvE7bNi0B2VCwcHJqCkGFgn7nbC2Z-ttYHPGbORgHjMJ7uiyzfoSh_0vC7qW3z7smqRmI5dJIp3gFAEKt3u_9X9KAEv2gq3g0RLb9gpW06H_oBCg2PWaeGSPmx3hbrneKjS7RCP_uuoCAJewMj69YuFCMIKIq9EIvO9flao0bHWEUGAQwuZpRUPaR4M3KWdj3OuOLj4TS-Fh1FXRBzvvHxk9mCm9G0SYdz3CLw29qbsfHYJjOiMRibIaa7YuTmWVSvkzqtA7ElF1-EiTec7Kzg0r3BTQYoAT6Ys0s_OeLjMR54WK586_14zMc1K4uiqvs7msWroq6jbuhKo6j9SaxDzi8lfIfvDI5ZjA4m5Kq5Y6ugqC5ZiokkqsgHMsHdju_NGcyNXksQLy4lKKMb5NILS2opspmTX91vkZsu95CSu-4VSboKS9dgzbNKKea4O88nATibJI8wli6DtYxzfhijM-s4Q9X-ZBccguXkl7YIqdoDzr3UFpsoJOI6mhNXuLJN8GW7ASTF81Dj6Bn5HJmX2tE8YWgVU4Ct7fUgkLcIlA78khQJo33U1FEAXgRlwzXvFRXv7ihU2WtKGTOu9AhJAjlz5CW2S19f6ldRnrlbxCGR-5snSsnb6zToXJkMk40=w1057-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iSVCREzTZGoamqtzzY-xRpzDuw2U8EklHinR4e0Umg1Tvi-d5MJsTUkY4ioietbAUEerae0U29VPQVTmgRvvP7qvqQ2lUqrb8ioEyywnPA1tUoHkQ-0bYC-IZBBXuY5O2Gg-BhjU1b3Jiy1_ZgltjA8j5n2PZ_OGJ5zDlwKE6Q0GUsfuJ6VQW2ocAqo66j-qfsL5BBc1rCYDg3pPvklAyWGWSH4IWtRonszr8ZYlubUKv1ShJFtWG-B-rzmyAwhO4HVKG03JbnLhtK1AllQbO5bR7isTaQ1Dpt0Y-3W4xj49_OWFzBt6nOK_OezprEldoScnL-p3oXj70awz0JpQItzVXS3XT0J1Ezr3iTXmSgE52TNVGVhNc8MXdc96NjturEyOBa9WIS1kvj-FUfTLwpaUWm7xsOJ_ONjwBSEHNjvOKm9pzLT6ecTaIKKMnmGyGWCOtOfgzzAlcBj0uuR34-rJOEi_pEYZ0VRhvpz600kOoTTsWmfE-lixqT0tTMDjQvyHvivo6DhgfRic5Eeoc3zpwVZEgtw-LsZiWQE-a2y4Lv8jm1Y6aLm6ZXzPwLdDVzR-wz-p8-PIbjIiVd_6Kryz_AZ_HB_O8vGPwspduBOVp7FFvxjtSKduZ7b_SPnvRvPANi74a9MXAMB2Qid5FexxliS2oCCCqM2AIrOEm43iPZd87HfAodNEDfCqgx0CPaiGbEs0Dc8TxmUEDclMsEEGiUHK0wD5DozEJJyZCLWRHjFdxddgnk8=w1252-h939-no?.jpg)

It has one of those newer Kato drives under it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 22, 2020, 04:35:18 AM
Added a few details and cut my 3D journal pedestals off. Used Grandt Line C&S caboose ones. The journal box lid was a separate piece and well they didn't make it  :scared: so I put part of a NBW casting in the centers.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BcqHEcwPQ6xMu9iTYPnuTcPvnT0aDJGSXJhCfr4xNnU7EHes4Wfz_-0w92h27RRryVIo4R-E6ko-XX6M0xAWydIXo8SgDOYPNq0ShVrsTid7xWJ3_dM5rg1GVtRctPkZVHtxVQckfC7O9rhG6WNhp7gIdRjcb9sAP5DntvOHezchzYrIzrBtBgXs1Q6A7A_jQJbYWWzonOf_q3f6-1NX4N3P9FHu9qbfSBzVVtJ9yeMRsbOUmZBzudUAwU6moBQkYIIRdA0S5uGDF0jmGRaT7ff2FWytDduMb9fmJq9ZESo02uYxB6vdBTy8N1Z3ytmbJES31BBfg0Q3rAljfK1_jgerecmENmsdiSLMFf9Dkadw-h4QVEvkT-1Si_6kBaS4CLmPnweZQoM4CX1yhVczC-rydLG_iNXs8DyYaSqQnuKdsR_7AEIewJUTmcGPDKseathLUzAh1kRueI9TP22fWuHBPtudkrSyBH3tiIg-hBrLqdmFo3_NwwAYDKrdye2kplExZY18E3a-47q20PCtqLfRl0rb5xyfxlJBBm25ZWxg4Fxh3tI6ueX6Hu1ro4tLWTn6kMv9O8sZ3Enbo4C86UvgsVbvgCpDM8tIl9ucCbUSykyNNK9A3dvUACD09zT_5ZXU5PnKEYiEaLJqQRP3MM3KXCdttr5aiN9tK_-mmq2xXhlmeShUO0O7w9yKnaqssWMoY3VP2r1zPucP7FM_RXOzk2NBZvXLjODVyhfeLQOhaaDasLezB84=w1291-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 22, 2020, 05:47:55 AM
Just for fun I ran that B&W photo of the mill through the colorizer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MJzK6787ISB5EMs-z6EP2UZhNUzz9sJG7SQcM2BbiPBfEW2_6ewfB43RIIVL83wMuNjQ5ubqTgPYbBofh3vZvO_6adcrut7qYtBtFQ21mH4kjdn2K_RmJAjKaFAppiWCgfwGo3go1UN8yhDFF3Nwv_vC-SQrkHnvyt5JFmL4-PK6F6z3GhigMHospd_AN3r0mYHX8xRC7LcY-4vs5WYboNXqnlxxULkvACT7q7wsEtKq0-HnJZ41zwzDptL54m0mDQbupdsVRL6XK5ii931FlZ482ZvGBNqleEoStaUwe9VTZK6qtFkmEZmwngnNnxyW9F7XLq4r-I4CvvOjIqK3FNRTwX3mQlwwwx1VasLxV06SS6MGRfsJGmTh75oYXyjSRqMYcojhrZCU9sRa3ZcSiAXcVTMHAoceb0lI1qtpf5NBOCNqHR2w7D8N_zsWs9qD4wBLNos17RzGHRr54Qwyc3i1jJWDg-e1MMIBGUk41YzqBoUWLvfr3QrXwnu5HcC-3RuqbfNLLcHKT-8cZQW6SLemZHnnuQ7PM4BJOO9kf1F6LaPy45vjMTRzvOX2kD2qM7CBGsRh7hMILsroam3makHmva6pck_paXCXSi5GXl8C7JPsWo8U0bWInB35_RE0dix5kxGa6SzQ8zeuBZfbfT7idymk4I29tzLvmVuF1zCr6ayfVo6uNdKWyeWgLbc2Q-eiKO7Eh1hXKXI-E3ljLEAzgnH_ahKKxVnUuqhWaKKsDUezpzA8MyQ=w1438-h888-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on April 22, 2020, 12:09:23 PM
Just for fun I ran that B&W photo of the mill through the colorizer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MJzK6787ISB5EMs-z6EP2UZhNUzz9sJG7SQcM2BbiPBfEW2_6ewfB43RIIVL83wMuNjQ5ubqTgPYbBofh3vZvO_6adcrut7qYtBtFQ21mH4kjdn2K_RmJAjKaFAppiWCgfwGo3go1UN8yhDFF3Nwv_vC-SQrkHnvyt5JFmL4-PK6F6z3GhigMHospd_AN3r0mYHX8xRC7LcY-4vs5WYboNXqnlxxULkvACT7q7wsEtKq0-HnJZ41zwzDptL54m0mDQbupdsVRL6XK5ii931FlZ482ZvGBNqleEoStaUwe9VTZK6qtFkmEZmwngnNnxyW9F7XLq4r-I4CvvOjIqK3FNRTwX3mQlwwwx1VasLxV06SS6MGRfsJGmTh75oYXyjSRqMYcojhrZCU9sRa3ZcSiAXcVTMHAoceb0lI1qtpf5NBOCNqHR2w7D8N_zsWs9qD4wBLNos17RzGHRr54Qwyc3i1jJWDg-e1MMIBGUk41YzqBoUWLvfr3QrXwnu5HcC-3RuqbfNLLcHKT-8cZQW6SLemZHnnuQ7PM4BJOO9kf1F6LaPy45vjMTRzvOX2kD2qM7CBGsRh7hMILsroam3makHmva6pck_paXCXSi5GXl8C7JPsWo8U0bWInB35_RE0dix5kxGa6SzQ8zeuBZfbfT7idymk4I29tzLvmVuF1zCr6ayfVo6uNdKWyeWgLbc2Q-eiKO7Eh1hXKXI-E3ljLEAzgnH_ahKKxVnUuqhWaKKsDUezpzA8MyQ=w1438-h888-no?.jpg)

Now THAT’S a reference shot!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on April 22, 2020, 12:46:21 PM
Chris,

The climax looks awesome.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on April 22, 2020, 01:08:51 PM
Man, glad to see some forward progress on the Mill Creek!   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 24, 2020, 04:18:58 AM
A little further on my mini Climax.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SkJ6EjpBVRKleKxHM-MEDS9z3Mdae02hP8mofdSruLFtZ7ySpy_dxnc1eRXoSFA7wfgCKzCO5GUIAfHCoKsPdAg0BD_FYhKkPjZruy2RI4uLWP7g_h-ij_8KhIH5vkVM0rn132qX4Rlob_hYYc_yeyE4vwm5aLcbodi2tejlBwrpdXdQVn4ap6vmAEFQh5zWEmXhbPqhaWFgGJ8yxioK_TeHanL4BWK0OKlmMLRHAWQKr2S675mS8JlLL_HUA9rwnn48S94qExO99qQgJdk_8UEqEI1SjAN6b7nGM8vuH396QHCFliZ2sm8MndfmFUPHTUco5wcW3J8mdnfdogSiDHykYkg-tdq5imrbV9xyGk1ordysOHZDNWC19WnzOpClgqLr1CyOgZnvPW3Iq1ZIsi75oEtdbQZN-2jKDOqmU-wWTeyTlbDz0H0qmd4bhQk9SCS4XPJAFQQGmfOvpuT9tD_UXO370BQ7N9PC4CJdgErMNms7ivEc48nhkJqUz6CM6LmU3zKm7_Y0Vv0ABZoqtiUVfTPdwWoWeWJDkQRbTbiXvoI9pgzDKB5f79_2aO5l3Rdd_7OSwA0tsUrbLCauBShhDej7KM2g0fbWshhGPHBesuQXqrylRdmu2qA44m04u7obW-AJmdEqSlRhl45p1F2MsQPG4pPXdaCwrDxMmDgl4brwQV2bY9bGdfesM4slMray_1mtMT9dbjvvAWloH4Ht6cHu3bZ_SYRAMCBPIoKPirqtaD7oUHI=w1231-h938-no?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RXXR_eK6As4ujw5McfsYz3NsXDSXgNiqhEPIqV2o6-M2KZCAa153GxzN22LVS0BsNZnETSpVm3oNJ3DCiBF6CQdcjHtC-QCO0foNzSxfXncF_OQg3tAtjWl7e2ScyPjjRXtgRhyLNC6fUyL-LJLitW2UXZuoSrDWeLcKw49tJn5gHkgBNitlAT2TNkRPVr9Lcj1AmiNPjbTFaeKcbihwtNOZoGzCbG0_oC8GseKLUnxP8rYXB3Ai1Oqa2FVyBV8ymkhcg84J98tc6Ef98W8Yo7H43i7kMCKrYyhQXBtbroG8YA8v46NmWHbLF-L_KaWjO2wNcWYn-X2FiIXc1tegfwGPlKKodNHnboHgiNIhnE8hkp7VAAQD5knaGyFWvjjlE7gW0oIa333pl3C8T4kXhJeTwwFBObWOX7wlQa2Y8DNm8e1sUJ6flugibE_c5Dw9dzrbYK4VyU4GkbD0LeHt7om8DkZcxIhnj6mBFVY--1cO8M9s8iRJtc_IfV77XkLqa_FnWlH_ycYbIQLIaKSsrP2X5nc4zGz1cl11t-97gHNZPS-czzcAB1nWvAjCYE6FpDuOumqKptNvKewIDtknSai6eM95ToHbfPHJ8mvOECkJFS8uRHNoyiZT4oFCjJPHM3IoQ_G7AuVftutyxHE13HI3LQ9tcWTDlov9ld9fRqp1tZzd8lGmPiul8lgpF9ClrofZI40hYD5znGKqEzycW7nM4WqPVVCdAYriZGlYRGNuEryAo6EZIh0=w997-h938-no?.jpg)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0I3dJ6ekB299E9YGAEeUJ6Z1muLrvkFbhVMSk1-TF9PL8ZCSDLbiz4cmFG-DeeIpAuqA7NQI1L9erqgX4TrUVoih0BM74-6PtGX-mio8h1ootg-N1GBgmQ2V3Lx_3He6W_sn6a5op8HQb1MkEzFqY00HLgISL_nornU1SsBUd5hmD9D85QmJB6wxfdYzxDCxPWVxY6dtVshF7Hrv0BhTrqIfJhz0smbVRSACJQnrSPuuUav7n7MbDd82XhOjchzV4__gXhthSr1nUs0gZjaN3i18_wV3oQ8iPr1oLklGw6OtOqL9qOTaGWTodRi7b-EDiapS2n4b4GK6E2HSMn4L6oJgwXQtSuc3SSkB5n6fgK4nk9L2IgZnOE5lMTTYfxK_7fTGpIjS7ePtuwkT2GwO5W6P6HDBWhXvT61F9vj_au-uzdc8On7oAw_qyotNsQBh02fsB_G9E2pFJC7djybOsj93EJApiM7LtHkKUVAs5WNsIXrX3HmK81X16__AZoJwQzq8B4QdTTdi2uQoWo0iOrqYv_o0AJa_Ly2ovqoIWNYtVsHv_QjuXQ6o2hXKPdDU6KlZQms55gjLpz09E9hzwb4BRaqEJmYxjsHnCbFxNnMT82PAiI43h6qBE6Wp50BLDcZjrbm1MGlCGvIvWuvwU4FA29o9dwFYSKLZu2ITi9BbKRfz8ekWGgprq6X6l952Tdr7VrVXQyeuO1JNKhhH-3-8sv2myxVUKOii_hZZWsOdvZFyjITUgxE=w1120-h938-no?.jpg)

And for fun a 12ton brass Climax I'm slowly converting from HOn3 to HOn30. Crazy how you can find these for dirt cheap.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/w1XvyEELrhCL5sv2jdZjipu35LE00Dn_a0wzVuTpCWa1nvXmVPePKLmBsV6kzSCFuN7oWdRLHXmpKpXOFYuGYjQx_gukzvNSCpE4aRwbKJ_CtZP3cJ6gSkq0K681IS98tYCFNuQDTUGwp_W7lM22Ju9-RtCHnPk0RuzZnHANoFVSW2lUBJPKMsROv3o-MfzinhtyfR55e4b74h4WYJoIRPGFUs7dMEhsASk_NBpe0Wk-uFG9zI6hMJol0WZqBaw-Oog28Tz0xoMT4bP6BmsYa-SDe18H4ft2AbsvJu8bmzKe3s58pNP_lcf8JaAeqTFQtptcN4Y12s7jydcXmTaf04dRoPJWhiHwB01FKEt0qIHFbXh-XZcjU7y4Zz_4X6HsmaegFC2996luZevQ_bq5wnw7loejF56UAySRrFBES_0nlKGDjRs9jDCGWTXDzjupGM5MxL-MyroUThqAfOXWW7TWZOW0CiIF7-MVQZNvRbyUH6CNcpB6iciCCI37SEBWjh6OoS60vYZj0HePbQiEDUPuVQ247s5idp_fyjsDITRq-sjwWu_hNbD1c_iChwG1AlxZytVkYCNnks2lQxUKii1Ddd_GzhpfQaX7vZoWjrFRrXZV_VRkfi2eJMdMr0nYd2J7siu5nW1SUIwqIKGoJY2fYeVWI2u6t4yX3Bnsxyu36hjtqtKxHj5Uirg5LZgvQJ-9SQbm-PbHRXzc7N7bFzYBxHp2nkhhy__UDfvunBLnDIwF8IcShFs=w1442-h938-no?.jpg)

And this was a start at a Climax about 20 years ago on a LifeLike SW chassis.  :scared:
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Found it in an old parts box.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 29, 2020, 12:49:07 AM
Guess messing with the Climax got me into the swing of things. I started refining the quarry area with some staining on the walls, stairs into the pit, and built up the rubble pile.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tytT3_EWYOAotFb7f6nodGA6n5JtetWadTzXeDKacqPiCa5of4YOU4zMX-IERG0X96upFGNF2VFhiOsOAh0XJO9Y3DpxhTwcxvJNXTpuxSRd-kkQlXpKC1EMORzd5pbES5iqO8C6kq0iseIFvEph7rRBjeh86hNHiA24j272P7mmo8FMX-tzd5WVlXEqvQxZZUMpoCZ9bSpMQw4xAaqiSwU8kTMitfxTlKIrap2Vg8vaEXLH3kPuJNgzxykyywjtRIp-DARjB5QWS5CvBN1mjEes-PSNo1lmUe1oXGyttqrwq_ZvfDnRb2JS8qat5BjDLxlTsacpaxFvyg6AnE3su4u6BYnYLxwhf4k2TQ7G3omnPZWirPUEWhn2vlqKjzYTKK0qIW9cs-XN-VZ12OVxroHELI9KKZlLAGDR006qAlURt_o22fY2y0KK6Wza-CKgHbGDy4oUjPj-OnnrMHicbkhDmCWf61R6rD-VPl8RIkuWxBM0u059SW_aNYdVd9QzXho04i7orrcsa_gpDWL0aPrm9Xn1VoMkE1NygdTI0EPSVeVRupHvUIxGQxmbk0si0L2YCk_n2mglvmLIN3hTFzbvTRkJ_QrGmrcQswsGK89J-oXcVFc8EcaU6QLVTu2jf5gAFG-xeCn_yisW7oVJZbES8ySHQvccp9Gzzn-A_YcdlZwm0Qzte-k4Bdpw1aoHT9PBh44t-GD35BprLbtZIYuWzHXpi3BejPp5jaEkQyZbw8SQvtFfHps=w800-h819-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 03, 2020, 04:02:56 AM
Most of these blocks are glued down and it looked so bare still so I added a bunch of loose pieces all over. I'm out of blocks now and need to make a few more to finish this area.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rVcgfY3zpTyM6mF4NN5_EHIEJYI6okF1XicaLqYBGLQwFKJ5EuyBXTxY6VjVE0pd4mVAWyRC5Umwn2EJ8TIm7jhPIwehbkT4DO_U2Nfz0tlIoc28aAIaBpeCZdEvpcEpeb1RZv-4ExSJgwsge5wpofJP7g2B-8zejP-v-F04iEpirnMu7Gi_cn98zyVvJTCfvHpCLd4EiSjZE6jZa-qlUDNuYBIyoZzr-19XkHvLFmRO0UkPYY9Z5RmUEqJQ3wyKjMcz_x4GuMmXB55kU5KwNPeMxtxFsmv5IY3EFyWOxnbEvkps056nfOEOwNsLR8OOudICdhb6_AxuhmkjGA0Nh-r5zssoDLmE8Wvubr4dklC40p6BKVU0i1S8MtZrfSX7vhdvnuOaX8emh2tW-RJ7J-rUUg7ugHVV-y1DIBi7P21WoqKKWhtgn2xhhDROsDT9Wx8f1-qLEOVYZp_37QC-w1DFqF3l7f_KKAqG8OuLKLY24PFiyis2WpVtEjDcSSdS16FZwcF-txyj5_gzwVNykbcaOxu6g-vhCx5cGwlmOY-_DX3vQr8QMTMri1FPZpaDh0Kk9iuU8kbDbsJhOWpa-k2Kz06G0q4MA650Jag9byoBsJLSs3pX4aQPvYONvc3yx4mZga8zOh_Al1mEj1wRDB7_9yqfTm5vMhXgbFsP6GYmG96VDxXz5fZXzwO5Cha4nPY1nTehMwF7GfYaif7GDFKQhg_paoUpihAVLQ_bb-upWWIqv2jWQPM=w1500-h881-no?.jpg)
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The crane that has been shown here was chopped down for something else before being used here and I figured it need to be tall like it once was. I'll scratchbuild a new taller crane and put the shorty in the back right area.

Also got a base scenery around the bend and over to the flour mill. The mill area got a dirt road.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eVMPLP1kzQUC60otHNykhNtrsJmwe5gwIU7OJapLzXnkEve4lu8XKrIbhkEDxtv5vR2FWee_4eF9RiAF_qSo4iB4kyBvWyo-FldHDxhJX5iUw25I0URGtcKx06S6qfsW3OuibtJPrMvWfMJpbKWH5uAMq39Z-7g8KUIDEUSlGUgqmeyZSlBapOxDq3zefQsvnGidix-octm3ANh0k-5ppEK3c7AdKAkKjwoojrNgx8KD4VMRwYvu31APEnnJF4Cw8IobVr8yRIGhQBSlaKPR7NNMTJwayTi6wymFUBMIVVrDEO7qd_mCHbA9oZE8AophbMgFol0_pck4QUIIik6pKwdfVnsb-D1DMsPF_zEirLMoRTQQNYpe-cBqAXu0wM6U5kvUVGA-4WCfpcoucfBZcL2W_lgDFkvbPAESWc1Cnxnbpey2WWu6ap1Qndv8SojEfyA5fDzE7Rm5b_bUi5zx3zZ27SISZ_giknC0yBazhzjbp_Cpvmrtq3BkcwYVwULzi5tXJcFEyq3J7BL3NDCTIp7SIOqSYJzNsU4-fNZvjfqRUOMtcbRYBPlO8yiNBSznWGmGDzge3XGeFTkdwPTEiLDmbNrKXR3aWkt-MiLKTiW0zikLG39JMqkibdwdLZfg1ZsP4eHWXEP_7q9rKHZQ3gQ0GGyyrGBxtiItfaAb0RPZB6-qZcYQ29QOHUjNYq3_hsHRrGUIoF2eYq1rg3Bj7xhKxtSU5DksyOjtp8hau9t-4RCVFOzfEws=w1500-h816-no?.jpg)

And being this layout is so small I figure people can guess the plan pretty easy, but I still keep getting asked about a "trackplan". Whipped this up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kXA4tQJV196H3xVR-T7_sqFyKuuuy60zY47x6uPOuHZepbLJ3t3rG-VCKqCwx0IyVDcUOIzrG8e690iBq_ZnwSDmPWPHTWjAoaBL_chWbNvNOcvhNEwkD5Z9Ob7fHIDR3VNlfE-RWo4uUp3sFvs3jH7IoF4NNbd-qUIZ_xZBEb9st1YU3gsCwUd1tL8un3Es5wSE0HT2CKB9HkMrgZnBYRWK8iVV2bGLUxqembL9XxSGWefISZbaMqx4pxbZW2RWkFGVOyoODZbnOBBJ3uDu-WcW1pSphJpTW3hocycmvrk0y5WLgucFo3qjPel-nIZPZw-mCySqXr9H6FN8FncxX_DOTLqdnaWWqf1_-inngGluaYBHshWKg-Uwm9xrfy1bPNvdvotO-G2LEp0F9TFd2qGNre4q29j31HaZOg9r0bBzCOB87ZuwbuGUAVFoBHWSHNbNcGeZTxgicOIuaOO9KQmtd75ZcgfOBTZ8V41oXASfWAx30Odsr0cLTxdXuZmxeLq7s_OL_jm5ZgeEgO98zzPKMu23C8G6fd-S0Xp0l6DtRD9ZnxaoXML6dL8KHNxcvU9jE2Pz9hFyUXGDxXIGNZ48wcN5rbdUi2hL2sStU2l8aYS0JOqrAVMUh_Befok2xECaYEv8_SSHsAOi88kv_-Zxfq9eklTiEj6mdIGurOmMuTV2c6A3MQvQgWs4zlcFE5lXeDet5YPFMAxH5fRa-UlAZlomODffQknK8mFmS9tcANo8UmdGYqY=w1038-h938-no?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on May 03, 2020, 04:48:42 PM
Chris
incredible work as usual
looking real good
the details in the scenery
really makes it pop!


sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Santa Fe Guy on May 03, 2020, 08:09:39 PM
Great work, looks fantastic.
Rod.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wm3798 on May 03, 2020, 09:45:57 PM
Really nice.  It's wonderful how much can be accomplished on a small scope layout.
Lee
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dcarrell8 on May 05, 2020, 07:42:00 AM
Awesome work!  Love the colorized photo!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 07, 2020, 05:55:56 PM
Added more cut stones to the yard.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jbr4K3rBo8jWGMDM85uuZjSVs2H6CINbn2zsCwIIDYpSDCihJ1qjpc2zkVcJ1rGZgY6StYRucOQcVOnu6lQdwt-GrZzSgzkNZAWDBJhFfwTtzDMGeG5v4Pb0DxnGTSx2do11unM4ogW_oKajgIEgSLWUeYQa-GLfbHetpON5zTRIBxZZ5h6kHgytZdnB8uOsTGuBCyHQm7P1EQaAMCILZgEVcDYXwxYMWiR0KeFwZxWobzXbrCsk9wEY2tHDbY_JmT4HIXjJ7rO6JLOh2YSpnAM0pDvAfTR5MmRR-ipcZ_ajIq9kZwJBXz0R4CEW_lqgBkOuiwhfGIl-6tjQLicj4drRkwEM-IZXGV735Vy75oFBkCCNt53hlHVIAlYrgzRwGchUAGjbb25XYBfdWkBAj9PyGeYZ8l1bCz2UMleea5Y4y25UyGpZSi3NHtxnxDp5u2YNSU10bC4m7CGWdPKXPxDwPV812qjUrWdAM6pc8JTk87KLZ_OCOQgH4qoial2CsA4YMwvQp9SC-uRaUNAam-DdfvWOCPJpGoKyA8ubEqpCgMBt7k5qxcbWjCBGhbiXIzp6BKDdHuN6-7hstqFVBHzlVyniqSzArOTBMJTXiQuVmxIB-YTZwblMyfpSjzpoijinZPmWADZk-EhEyzVSVRDM8SuZidIZvOKeSyXnol0B6_8cwwHkc965bQOazTNyV95JOOI0jnMwAyWDtL72h9ZhEDPDZrluyMj0wUNL5AeKKWeMNvGWHR8=w509-h294-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And put quarry water in one section.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fz4z991gPmaZYzb10J9Q-FFgM-WVB9kXcpx_FoyYZpyXF0qjob323CIMmXxcGfdkfQvqi6PAOoUB9q5dulMBs9clfipSXtjtq7W7cqM3GLObPSA6XRBx1jbtW5hJZLC-1jvGlldS9t9msfuch784OsqcLwK5W8vY0ZsQVy_8v7aOBHf1BLywAqwg9Mel0UKNcjifqsYClbZlPtq7vmD1ZVnmw-r_5Exac4Rl9ZR7-3r7DgQ5pDrknFrxeacz0hCoD91EYnh01w7C1Gok4x4C_yc3h-WmLX_dIhX4AYTJwom2YUuf9BEaMFCbha2TQJcL3Tl_xWaa_pgo7PHmH0Aw2dTQcV317GV8_QbZVanfx8yQBxbyeETATEsUjzuvOf6Po3UJwrO1IhKcMY_IdrZxAQi-8E-b4yJXBDDtel3SOwvwl7E9MHxZP0cSkbVivLfoCQHbroFfKSEhrGRYUxzecgAMoXQP5CGCT-fzU0nkVEdcoMHj9Yhu_re-tw4jye6L5I2zHHbwKW38evTZIUx47hV7c22TKtHeStWK7BbmXRYb5t9YFAKnjzc54j6ADrrL8CiWXu78LSEHa4z_8i3WplliBscRcmLAkKhplefdTJfHRzAJtPvgnbBUjuZ451KwdqLaAAFbYmeeEme0Bjy3Fkjnyp3N_QlHnvR2nyDCy6B5zyK0juF7ETV_ZNRH_oBrZLlHGdHdak6Jv0ccEj_bkR8EHedpjsZZxxHZBN_RNlaMquUzyzzL5v8=w1500-h856-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/suxo-D7gb99ALA_tzBY-DySjjNSq4VPlRCeKqxqkPSD6O8QK0bn8jsd0PGz3oqpwyk3L9zf8Gyp14f0wedZejh_BovbPofo3Ruz2hAJAhfUGkhgT4_j96M6bTGVHwTyrjJ9FS2SVReXSjSccHTb_EWC1hWi6phXCqlZ8TcBH-NFh9VwumOINzFE15fr_jkQjyLe6U6P3yUovEnKIDwGqLWmLxH1RaEKUvAJPIYytEIbNlsUDif-pFacbWwsamn5K3gfW0kHEZRCpfODeaZwy86DrQTn4yfXfavoFBRP2MykhF0KX9Bh4CaGxYafLOffJmVmmVCBC6L71zjcWChJwMZnVJfj_k_FWO5kXklR1uUgr9Ua0Mlyp7U-DwocbOXM2S4-eB5oEDppQlvaV0ZkuXmB9W_BtI2C8dl_uPS4wTuRsc-U1HE2oNMZWcY0fWIgKUkvWHF8EYKYJAEPfSPLf1YTBKRQmgN0nQsSAwCSoqG4e4b8mgiaVBdIHN2QIecPLtTmE1wF1HJkAP909r__RFeVedAlXxBJV70Isv3i2KG6CsGyvEq-2MXCUJcXXAnXyXNagVyq6zQ58YoyS93LBlBHd3xLAvjikJmZdlv1_1R7jAkb_cCq8imquOpHLithLbOVyE5Xe9Ks7h03IaJAKkInYtZr_UoSwcu7kGFg5G4IbaowIyMr8tTLWRfzcsgsuBlxknK53YvGRM6BRmOGtCfldk4Atz4JJ1N80CAsUprtfV0YWMlbOaog=w1310-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
It is just a piece of clear plastic that was painted clear green on the underside. It pops right out. Not sure if I like the water color, but it is hard to mix solid paints with clear paints.  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 07, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
Water looks good, but here are some reference images just in case.

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_1.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_3.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_6.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_11.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_2.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_10.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_12.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_7.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_9.jpg)

(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/greystone/aband_quarry_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 07, 2020, 06:01:54 PM
And just to see if I even liked it I printed this body out:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ptaaoTPiE8GysAa3ipgBP9JpMWdMdPjF57MZiKKIkJGSJ154oIkR1tabB4C7Rn2GsKBmRhScOBJgJ4lIT0wcT-srouLGAhbhsALj4CBGblnzivH2qvnbi_repTMQfhceA5poNvrpj32YkQy96NqQQLYDAAiT9MOh_ceuyY1Mo9EyhOUv0-F5IVPUQr7-MmxBfZAM9LnQiZ0Y1UIybCbc5_sywBhEiCg5K_YZTAF3VgScuWbhMX5zhUjY8KjonMQ2W_d_ulyt19Gz_ZZzh9ZST3S6DKMOdL-9p9wjNJj2ShyC_xeXkgrVzIUDKCvvNgbbns7SZTDwFTJoukFVxKiK4sj2Wn5EuyYDWY9vicwZ_Dy7-cyjXaw_UGuJXrQ4Qg5TWYP43jHgN51waqBp0j78MCdTtomi87059-tbuDo_1LulOTzw6iRobeQGvbGSMlsFgPYomOL6giDtrG24CBumkQwpMHeHr3bwydQuPBE7rEekoiGF5MbisB8_3WLZncgcSC1263GiHB5m86kkXFwbUT0vDXssmMtx2M4bOkr51XdqogNUunwL82fqTMuJu1GxaD6bCTQ5mG9-WvpzzSqTa5HqVYDkYV8IzwlVE-t2z75_Ptc0VpwQSPNkpS0mnWSJMYm2rBF6S-VKxIHxddQIyRqdzqjYWGtIJwUbjCGNhPHqeiIrkbHZqU60sLZybOONzRtNMz2TyYxhs8nSsybeaNnViStmYKS3svHw-fGvM8xmNeqC8nS5nmk=w1267-h939-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Based on a Bradford Bordell and Kinzua locomotive
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 07, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
So maybe a few more coats of green to darken it up? and maybe stipple to top with gloss so it isn't perfectly smooth?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 07, 2020, 06:03:38 PM
So maybe a few more coats of green to darken it up?

Yeah, maybe. Most quarry water is pretty dark.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on May 07, 2020, 08:02:11 PM
Yeah, the Sandstone quarry not far from me has nearly black water.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on May 07, 2020, 09:39:46 PM
Chris,

Did you design that boiler and cab?  Or was it scanned or downloaded?  I'm considering an AnyCubic photon printer and am curious about your software/design setup.  Seems like it would make HOn30 a LOT easier, that is if the learning curve isn't too steep...  I'm also pretty much an iPad user. 

Thanks,

Wayne
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 07, 2020, 10:51:27 PM
I designed it myself with Sketchup, but as you can see the circle segment number is low so the boiler looks like a stop sign.  Never even seen an iPad, but Sketchup might work on it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 08, 2020, 04:43:18 AM
Some people say quarries are crystal clear and you can see right to the bottom, but I think many older quarries tend to look very dark. I was going for something like this:
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This video shows a crazy bright blue green color:
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They all tend to have a green tint, but some are like a tan turquoise/sea foam tint and some are like dark forest green. This flooded area is where the Carbon Limestone railroad once ran:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9839757,-80.540816,473m/data=!3m1!1e3

I also think if you walked close up to the edge in person it may look dark, but if you flew over like the drone you'd see it was really clear.

Since it is just a plastic sheet sat in place I will work with different colored under layers that can change out till I'm happy  :)
 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Yannis on May 08, 2020, 07:45:59 AM
Great work overall!!! Very inspiring i must say. If I had the space, seeing threads like this, i would consider a 2nd deck  (or something) having narrow gauge in a different era than what i model (late 60s mainline).
Very nice work on the print for the locomotive!

Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on May 08, 2020, 02:27:38 PM
And just to see if I even liked it I printed this body out:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ptaaoTPiE8GysAa3ipgBP9JpMWdMdPjF57MZiKKIkJGSJ154oIkR1tabB4C7Rn2GsKBmRhScOBJgJ4lIT0wcT-srouLGAhbhsALj4CBGblnzivH2qvnbi_repTMQfhceA5poNvrpj32YkQy96NqQQLYDAAiT9MOh_ceuyY1Mo9EyhOUv0-F5IVPUQr7-MmxBfZAM9LnQiZ0Y1UIybCbc5_sywBhEiCg5K_YZTAF3VgScuWbhMX5zhUjY8KjonMQ2W_d_ulyt19Gz_ZZzh9ZST3S6DKMOdL-9p9wjNJj2ShyC_xeXkgrVzIUDKCvvNgbbns7SZTDwFTJoukFVxKiK4sj2Wn5EuyYDWY9vicwZ_Dy7-cyjXaw_UGuJXrQ4Qg5TWYP43jHgN51waqBp0j78MCdTtomi87059-tbuDo_1LulOTzw6iRobeQGvbGSMlsFgPYomOL6giDtrG24CBumkQwpMHeHr3bwydQuPBE7rEekoiGF5MbisB8_3WLZncgcSC1263GiHB5m86kkXFwbUT0vDXssmMtx2M4bOkr51XdqogNUunwL82fqTMuJu1GxaD6bCTQ5mG9-WvpzzSqTa5HqVYDkYV8IzwlVE-t2z75_Ptc0VpwQSPNkpS0mnWSJMYm2rBF6S-VKxIHxddQIyRqdzqjYWGtIJwUbjCGNhPHqeiIrkbHZqU60sLZybOONzRtNMz2TyYxhs8nSsybeaNnViStmYKS3svHw-fGvM8xmNeqC8nS5nmk=w1267-h939-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Based on a Bradford Bordell and Kinzua locomotive

Chris,

I like it!  Did you ever say what era your layout covers?

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 08, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Well I have a bunch of older locos so I'm thinking like 1915ish. I plan to have more horses/wagons than cars. Locos without air brakes or generators. By around the 1925's my little Heisler and Climax would have been upgraded to much larger locos. And as easy as diesels are in HOn30 I just don't want any and that would have bumped it up to around 1935ish. So sorta around 1915ish final answer  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on May 08, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Chris,

Can you point to a tutorial where I could learn the basics of making a boiler shape?  I see cylinders of varying diameters, that's pretty easy.  But that skewed conical section that connects the larger diameter cylinder to the smaller forward section puzzles me. 

Thanks,

Wayne
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 08, 2020, 07:48:42 PM
Wayne, yes but I'm at work right now. I'll get back later. Could send you the file too if you want.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 09, 2020, 03:37:04 AM
OK to try and answer. I first had a 2D drawing I made in AutoCAD so I keep that open to grab dimensions off of while typing them into Sketchup. Once you draw a circle and extrude it you can then offset the face to make the bands. Extrude the band and then offset smaller to make the smokebox.

To make the offset part I just made the two separate straight parts and then connected them one line at a time. Since this was just a test to see if I liked it. So the circle segments are a low number and therefore there were less lines to connect. If I were to do this loco "for real" I would probably have to scale the model up draw it and then size it back down.

Hope that makes some sort of sense.

This is my sketch in AutoCAD
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5PDmmTly349gI4Pgp3L7XOFtVSec4H_KE124yWv9KZPTMBPY6n6RUK7qoh3EWSvbUDpTvVUwzwxd42XT1G2hY5CVqxXSSSChm4Hff6OwWk0RClcN8laBM0HCvt8gkBoo8HbQpXOLPkFIXReG6toqqhj5Rs1-daGL3Z10MHw06hWliezCRZ4YORK1m635RvRQ6oltXFma-szUs0xDxwKpKAIVIKiYsiF4Z1p8rU4e2NSKyPNjNaqWdP8G-e7syquqJ6LpIGh7W3PwA0FEO7NCubjk5hcplrCsWXRQmLtECdi_J_CrfCTYzexZfzxNx3X-hxuemQUg3cw-5e6F4bevI2hsRePuGuTsFHqobAREXEEX5kqsdWLNm8XPLJOgpUoCn8tiALSiG9pXThEDObYfyQT6PuqZ1zFCqJgSw5y3I1zrGky7Y4LX2t4lfFjV5dg96oY5BuNaR6yUylsJmx9IpEcOeefq2-zE6MIAv9IV5wWlqjXFiIyzOiq7r1SFKkQaYUNBITB2Ym-l0gc7g-0eMZhYw6JUYwoVG1KcrImqTZ9QwDne5WwkUWbd5HjsQrieFxYU7nHg4lKT3N4yCKwAlLHCQtV64jvC0EaX1apUj3tiiMO_bti4mVdGHjw8bcTW1mKTbQlxFrzwlG3iCdqE4S5ayTJ-Ut9eVwpxIi2VdaN47HedvP9J-ZO8IfuDXpXXTiaxe1B28_o89LdNGqTR5IZryISgdPmeFeEh5w4I6PtvAJaBy0MNbyY=w1524-h859-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And here it is in Sketchup:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vJtuuu_NjUEp_9qUMec0iCpsk9RfiaEgfVgvz0yTximH60JSyL1wITiLwS4lc49JRmbZ7pjFMy_4obxg0WvWEcUIg7dVQ-ydtUhCJoIzPZRMgbApZeW7iSz3exEHmhhHyntdWVlZGHGCpmCPPRjPF_v4MoL8nakLy16pSFHys57heLUR23bf6RRCPn9uwuNV9InAqp17C2wF6I5gpVQY4CdTswsOoGfxZQaWZ5IP-uO107sNTeYARPojZubdMvcgHiiYiL6Px9U_eAJOiPtkZYE2mUxfkQhEUm1J8Vkq5xhD9SknpfZ5T2f_t_GZ6Qrh7Ek3IT8wdFhal2coqCWwuhbxA65t9rdMDDP6VfeQk6LX-epUTgTFFTFUt4P01AIQAtOZyZzJG1W7PGvDVX9tQvwk-5Opx5RzRbq1xiGfSLodOz3Z4I3slauZGjMzH27-gukLYaYmPTacBUSKdw4sUxqCzkUcoVN4R6qjrX3x33iWUByN24_uJkm9z9tom1Iraf_ploF9PCbP-EAaUuCZ6A0TyTR-aKhAZInvqbCd0PQE-ljNkVXFk6E_LS-ZdTIx8IZ25rS_vRfQWbt3MeiJn3cGxdlAp3Sf9UgxU9cIpD8dRHsUENaMeI2mvJERPdO1MVCOHD5Q2r-1nd5Vug-F9bAoo3tRPbpFXhnCI_R7gdd6VSCQovEzmT0xyzbQSEYeQ7VDEKFmdigkEWV-CPgocDc7VqxfXOhpUV6eDq44rw3PXg_F4hM0nUs=w1524-h859-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on May 09, 2020, 11:32:24 PM
Thanks, Chris.  I'll take a look.  Hopefully I can get the hang of this.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 10, 2020, 04:36:00 AM
The corner between the quarry and the mill got some scenery. This is the general view between them. The line goes behind the mill over a short bridge and then get hidden behind some trees for "several miles" before popping out at the quarry.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8UBQvPMjKq_4QoTrrDA-oohlzBX3mUvQ5--pRmIkiF6Md40dXcroMC2ejZVuUYTAnkWqIUKWZyPS3R5UN9FecJub_g4X2XKi8QOkKD410dc4AEUZAs8EDy90GTx0fX768WoNONyGv7_JxWyUKSRudwobG3blTaR66HIdka1XpgiT92-ExNsdUHlliyHs9UWaXmUmPjBPdw5TX2K5kGOhUwDR8RKYkVr-aAF-Ik6OrFOLX0JtQgJ8mH5O4AkjbLD0Y7_-MHxOKezkoao1Xlj3xhW_FW-pxy5xIIb94a3EbTXni2bkxcsDc9Rw_1ciQP4CM5Zc7ulc6tc-CNG8vcZhBc7CLJdlguK3oaI3fpKSVgqTdtkcB8T9fme0VMEstqZoVHCDxSJOVjPQYCRznkI_LQK3pRq-xqFYiVWb8DX7-5o6qZzRt7Cg-S3O72YMpr-NQ4gUZ_lFD474gZAct6FtOUYtQ-_5s_sC9zsk1_oBD2fldDbecMZE-amxxRsG8k-WWr5ekjI_NhbviEJ4zTCtIH37IPnSGQNdBjK0fzr8odbQgXvKYxzra2uR8kdptFsMxRPZOzwKTjPJ2Sp63mbpV5yq0mpaZ--baqoiwQ-kDEISs5ir_7AX1qJY2JWZPwXemfAnaeJo9QNPfu16LW8gTHvLP0hHwkzl6RGnKNQVMC4LjlaVU5bcqpSQCy1kO4pqQIv9Odg0YB5frrcrTeL4CTLK90MZI0DI47QakqMaOkQrmjRNNxqI6Zw=w1524-h514-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/v_Ci3En0VJlWJGeQf2e3oh2vqwLFVHD2bvGg7r4BfcjWl395h0_AtFc-TPMC7CRB7DBH3FyljCxEDQaHsUvWX68ZYH3EbcH9zW3lCtZ3c03mPN7QKgwA-h06jUuniin8PeManxy0CHW_NGD55OI5L4tWS000-Gxw5bGpCTy36X1LnpFwIAov5loMDD4D0Qzh79d8ilONCW8SzFz1vKhn3T4ZvWxRTqYpNWS4zBjF-9NE3EmYQMPqlecbWOw9nyYWxTzVgXLJUatbA8YrJ8ta_AXrzBz6Idt0h71O3Wh6wUhT-fXkCy1FWjwra1UXdbueYAHOzn4Mwe2-xnVfPqsCrMxAlcL8TY26Bj8y24S7aC7xqsGwB8hYThg5zL2t7nSOpEbTY5fNA8VXIPa18r-B4najkqG-fbfPuZ0k64uO1kGvpbBw_dW0dsjKEHxIIaUSSsVJlsgxaIulwKcV_Q3wA5kH9HGZ6eUrGPVqAbQoLB2IVrOOdfI1_A9EEnifOIXCP6U3EOAG8Bx01Tc7oMri2_A4KmBDtodme6oFp6p8yxwZPon9kLVUpkFJIKc7b5y6sXH7GX0jMqGRmzCVzomdQHJEeGTwEMOFQ6UUMeverVzbbqbFLWdyFEMN9Bw16IrOzy0e_I4C2dQ6jlJHULcICYl0pPKKkF2gXMBhZbTiMmP8t11O88Hjmzmc-WLMVqf_8ZSeri5m5NaBafJkjdBiH1MVYm4J4KP3FSPkrY8mF8hY_u936DUw0Mg=w1500-h883-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TBc9vlAYXliERTQn6nDDmK_Vw54COCW_9kUj-EkSPlI6fvogAnqgcYy3etIk8MvDQJpwtQLOsRyelPGxJXD8kaxIdlYBWMygJQa9qZPZer9QnUDpRNJsFao19vs9_wXQ5UKDn1rY4xkajGj8CDGIbzc1Ua_SS0yeijpeZt1zn-goEGSaYFzBPB_XFly9NQUaFIrzHReliUZxw_cXEBr8-DfiL_OnlTRdpWyYOGjmL2BqvzIIOOvPoqTNLVFLJFRZGC7gQ7XMtkqa0xEJxtNWZkOJy7Hp-KUykBBMByXqn9klbKz_xEqrH5O37VsJi0lnc3mM0_vNrps3HqJ3YpOnLeQUlMjYjB_TceIx1YAslDYAeWhEQiyaLY6YehF5m7UCo4lTrNDKox-cmouR610nnV5iaVc8cyox53icmCfWKZilwdC2nPyP9xJpnmjlWTE4-6yPJ3oLEu8D0bOpVll4M2_ivIgC-JYrJ2ScktAkTQWRM4BunQD-wa3V3oQb_S9WfWCKLjya5LILFlGjIRomKy28G1fzw78-yHmkZW8kdvFLerqZM93HLsTYbMQCkgZPXvgsEiCLdz56VKi2ZlBuaXUCvAA9CNAOmKy6kX5c1Cd178-iEvt3oQZLZ0kyDRYizxnYpdoeFN3YFHRUKi-UrJJyizHrMOsG3STXX-buaQ7iVLwPYCg1Pm62s8G9Ekukeo46s3uFuzr1iE3bJS2CJ7wveCiGxLye9beeig-3md2ChKSeEbZWgCc=w1500-h885-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on May 10, 2020, 07:00:00 AM
Gorgeous.  So glad you kicked back into gear on this layout, @Chris333 !
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nuno81291 on May 10, 2020, 11:32:35 AM
Outstanding scenery
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on May 10, 2020, 12:12:41 PM
Gorgeous.  So glad you kicked back into gear on this layout, @Chris333 !

This.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on May 10, 2020, 09:49:48 PM
awesome
simply awesome


gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 03:59:55 AM
Been using Elegoo resin in my Photon forever now, but read about Elegoo water washable resin. It costs a little more, but guess what... no gloves! Just grab the print and run it under the faucet  :lol: So for my first water wash project I'm trying a Eureka & Nevada motor car. All I have to go off of are this photo:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fBJVB51VBwcvi8_CUAd_nFklKvBAALTjDEE6vv2qdLaYrOJElxJRoEJT7dSBFTJ7qKQAPXFOA68WpR9NOGGucW6_dG83CptoWMlcGw4MOBH564_SkasMdxwOY3fk2Ls6UC_3p6FcazTx871LNuiVS9Ew=w800-h684-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And this crappy photo from an old brass kit:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eZ0OtoD0QTmLJJF5tlGKVhX09wmjxf8YIqCEFWV1tkvsggqtdO4jUhQGEgudt2rKBjxbvm99qPWvESi9Qx9pmGp_Fvb1N3-Ej9xxWsuiYnim5h7s6-XhQqhtBxgbYCyw5RK7e4v4SMEVwY2q84bnBzPg=w800-h744-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

More to come.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 22, 2020, 05:24:33 AM
(https://nevadagram.com/wp-content/uploads/Eureka-Nevada-car-No-22-1930s.jpg)

Quote
Fifteen-foot No. 22 entered service in June 1927. It was a Northwestern Motor Co. Casey Jones Model No. 555D with a 4-cylinder Ford engine. Later rebuilt by the Eureka-Nevada, Car No. 22 was scrapped in 1938.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 02:10:32 PM
Wow found a brochure of the Casey Jones Model No. 555D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brochure-Northwestern-RR-Railroad-Casey-Jones-Ins-Car-Ford-t-motor-Eau-Claire-WI-/202789706570

Looks like the railroad put their own body on it.

And it turns out that you should still wear gloves with water wash resin  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 22, 2020, 02:14:16 PM
And it turns out that you should still wear gloves with water wash resin  :facepalm:

And a mask, and remain six feet from the sink.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 02:17:10 PM
Well to be fair it says if I get it on my hand to wash it off with water. But the only time it's on my hands is when I'm washing the part under water.  :P

Maybe I'll start to grow a third leg  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 02:33:20 PM
A new Kato 11-109 chassis stripped down:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dSukXA-92T0n44Acx_GLnwWajcTywb_xlEHv57RoyrMDDwGWFOuBZPQxL5kCbt47BxvwjFnzQNI7X6KyG2FI75A_-VdwAldOLmacnhYv8kO1lm8toG84kN5qoW97TSxuzHIxqw_-CpoNBcuchNTg7YBA=w1000-h596-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I planned to use a 11-110 with it's sprung journals, but after ordering it I got a message that China could not air ship it, only ship by sea, and that would take 2-3 months...  :RUEffinKiddingMe:

Here is the chassis with the frame sitting on it:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cXKCH8XllxMFyfu9zJ_Q1BHyn8sirTjarNcihdXsFMClmhwAgOZgkVmES8_cdrbwgt0Ooz_IcAK5NAvQRu5x8xRjFBSh8kE3AVJSX-PB76JvVmQ0EScCmBUwLPoiwQycxIBCeRCOBvEjEGP88P74655w=w1000-h584-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
I might still draw up better journals.

And the body:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eHi9TmAfr4y0IsoVd0HZNz8TOzaHMjj4Ns9h1b76L0OUvj7v-uIKz090W76MRNIRDR8KpoTkspu1nT4gt8zSFwGta7Kjkny1js164aGpPA2MFmQ80CVZMvx9Bz2p9EurJMofBaF8XbwA7Q7IT9i_JD0A=w1000-h847-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 22, 2020, 03:55:51 PM
You don't waste any bloody time, to ya?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 03:59:48 PM
It is like a 2 day old project right now. I have 8 bodies so far. The last one is the best. Started printing the frame with the body then switched to 2 pieces. Printing my next (final?) frame now.

Next I need to figure out how to make those headlights  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 22, 2020, 04:04:39 PM
Next I need to figure out how to make those headlights  :scared:

Maybe something here might serve as a starting point: https://www.ngineering.com/stamped.htm

In particular, the moon caps at the bottom of the page...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on May 22, 2020, 05:02:56 PM
That new Kato critter is an amazing piece of design.  Coreless motor, fine pitch gears, and the most innovative part is the equalization of the wheelsets. On one side of the loco the bearing/pickup plate is suspended at the center of the chassis, and allowed to swing, so all 4 wheels will will contact the rail, even when the rails are uneven.  Sort of like a 3-point suspension, but then the single point is spread out to both wheelsets.  I almost soiled myself when I saw that design!  :)  Extremely clever.

And Chris' new critter is coming along nicely too.  8)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 22, 2020, 06:49:21 PM
Happy with these final versions, but I see some warping. The inside is braced like crazy to stop that (will be cut away later). So I'm going to try printing the same exact files with regular resin.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cfHOuqGy9n6_-LI17INruE1u4NAAtUKCGx_2L_lpaY4ChJWBpkPn6z4Is7cjMOwwe2esh3R9OLgLKgV_ZE9x4GScU6Qv45u_efA74EWbaH9XYM8EnGJpVYfHdMr6spZhgjeCxCrP1orlMKRHldnrIbhA=w1000-h847-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And I notice the Google photo URLs are now about 15 miles shorter than they used to be.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: johnb on May 22, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
Happy with these final versions, but I see some warping. The inside is braced like crazy to stop that (will be cut away later). So I'm going to try printing the same exact files with regular resin.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cfHOuqGy9n6_-LI17INruE1u4NAAtUKCGx_2L_lpaY4ChJWBpkPn6z4Is7cjMOwwe2esh3R9OLgLKgV_ZE9x4GScU6Qv45u_efA74EWbaH9XYM8EnGJpVYfHdMr6spZhgjeCxCrP1orlMKRHldnrIbhA=w1000-h847-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And I notice the Google photo URLs are now about 15 miles shorter than they used to be.
that looks great
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 23, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
Did a quick vid to show the new quarry scenery area.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 24, 2020, 02:32:45 PM
I don't know why I worry about the prototype so much when I'm freelancing, but here is some info on the real railcar.

This is what it would have looked like when new:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f458OW-gRdq9tfdHvDF0I8PAGhCpzXUxj2vKW5ODx88xSyojOD7DEhQlbl2BU0wpdcIDuOvCBGwpKEOXUNP0GwQNZXPQt_PDpcUxfy-dMqGvy6_9ljwD_5jqdU1DJ5IeKG0RuMll3bERiMDmKsQMS3xQ=w800-h536-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Then at some point the front end was rebuilt with the angled corners. Still has original roof and sides:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ckGe5Md0ePyiDAeIUTGbUfc-arKFER9xsoA2xO211HGDQkmq6gZJnE0EhZ27VdsvXyHF3vFWA0-WuxN9gDAPYG7bSBwq3MiGpvxMr861fo1vaiEphX-yrsL2cN2OPlLZYjMMtXR2SPYhlDTZgBSYiTMQ=w500-h357-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Later apparently it got new sides and a new roof. Maybe it was wrecked a few times  :?  Either way it fits into my coal hauling railroad. I could imagine workers going to the mines in this little motor car.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 24, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
Keeping the log book going  :P

This is how I got ONE motor car. Not shown is the actual one I'm using, it's off being painted.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ea1ZUSxJ1FqzUIoWImTx_h_w_FhUOTxlrMjIbOFGfhaIQGr9YQKC4YB8Tz5pW0oTJwGhdeiUS_R8w8K2niGuKc0ORqH75-AXgk2n6d_ntmH_rgzHH0K8o_5yY4TtUdzFCrjWqTS6UVYmQM-1X3gDa7qg=w1500-h694-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

The first one was just to see if it ever would print. Then a few revises to separate the frame from the body. Then a few changes to keep the sides from bowing out. More changes to keep the windows straight. Had to add internal braces. These were later cut out with a Dremel. Seems if they are in while printing and curing they stay this way even after cutting out.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cM02mrvB3oEd1qI0ZKKnyr6CRL1bHgX7p-XOMFx0bNCu_BvQh4Vr4i3SpiCAvjiitfsLauoyVBWS6LN3bKF6CrwCsOOyKVrMfM6Hj-AcxptiUheYSpmDLt4e38g5Oux6HZYGhB3ZqRKdLZ50QHHzMCuw=w809-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)


And I laid down some wetness to the mill stream.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eRgFO4uX2pxlx3DoOTF7t7fJnOWC-LQzvUupzHAHrC_fEvXatWONAcKHJWHXBYtIIRH0cjrkAdXdZP_LlwieGkfp0BxZtJ6XYN4-1nJUuyVIgDXJux2sWrUUlpoeSYvB9FGje57NDvd-lcYVZnMcQoag=w1500-h871-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

After that dried I used gel to start working the waterfall:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3egTlrTNdtWxME6oEkWun_ahRlH3Fm4i-A8XF0Tchca2qzbwWPyO50yxzLP9lEa0gRfwNyyj2Hgp_BzREeqRi43Kpq-YHmt1u0lkYJGfrrNigHHa3Egh5TfR_j1e-DrwuI1VcGcgrCQgg6_jIqtnBnLwg=w1486-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

There will be many more coats and coloring and me not liking it and me fixing what I don't like.  :-X
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 29, 2020, 02:22:48 AM
This is the revised frame to help stiffen it up. Along with a scrap box lady driver.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cf5-ciBcuoTAaObiNlY5X3F1x9JcNZ_9uCbqU9ORKwD3_n0QCh36Gy0iYMlIi8i-W84SiPJAW6zDajHWNz2xorxajYl1P6U1pTjGqUECod2CfCXlKn8lM_-pCkACbsPCLMwlCmDliq8VN_JWSKGsWPDw=w1348-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Body on:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cvm6XFkoAdugXIo_avRNC2um5e9yp5BKffIZ1Y0E8gJZavWYZG0zTDdC49b9CKuiq6Dxy2jh-YSh3hmTogXXabImIgMzte_g1AARHZE4esWfg20DanDa4ROQ166wTasqkMu6uCb1KV9wDS07JVhofqlA=w1091-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I did the headlights in brass on a lathe and soldered then to .025" wire so I could try to goose neck them a little.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f9XqzBLHPgaDEnolLls2p3j3K0Bp1yPGJHkgA7sBFa3RrjHE6_gYZHeHhkumiTADvPXYkOJCRqnPueACluwOk0FF5ba8GiLSF3cgY807w1MTeCV6wmHsa3JHzLZbahQN8PE39o4IAMSq9p2BnDLqzFQg=w926-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And over at the mill my water is having problems. There were tiny bubbles in it while wet so a ran a torch over it to pop them. Well a few spots look like they got burnt and are still white after a few days. Hoping it will still dry clear.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ffHMoDKjfUtXUZCkbBPtUS_aIHARvklg8jMRJWC3YqaJx1U9_JRGTni899QHZqkx-zpDcydaCYhUB9642JgZDfnjeOc5HdmIlUumt79Kby6EaqcFP0dOYlK8VHcdKdfyMjs5Q9FVA1HfK4KQ4MPVf3Dw=w1376-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on May 29, 2020, 03:08:30 AM
Curious, did you use Mod Podge?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on May 29, 2020, 03:23:07 AM
Curious, did you use Mod Podge?

Not this time. First dabbed on Liquitex gloss varnish over the sand base. Then used WS realistic water, that got the small bubbles. When I heated it there was a small puff of smoke  :facepalm:

Used Liquitex gloss gel on top.

Some deep spots at the bottom of the fall is still white so maybe it just needs more time.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on May 29, 2020, 07:38:40 AM
Well, the good news is that if that doesn't clear, you can camouflage it in the white water that would be caused by the falls.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on May 29, 2020, 10:36:46 AM
Sometimes Liquitex takes a while--like a day or two--for thicker areas to dry, but it should clear up. If not, Mr. Foxx has the right idea.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 12, 2020, 12:48:48 AM
Well not much going on, but I did fix my water. Any time the water is moving at a good pace you can't see into it except up close at the banks. So I just painted over the white marks and then painted on my own white "foam" marks. After it got another coat of gloss. Since I had the paint out I did the other waterfalls as well.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f3hgcCkVA8gL6Q_eQ1f4Q0M_e2UagfEDGx6___mhm35zbxO6j4XlSGe41nBoft3Rya9RiVMSHqXYXLh_8G9lpG7FJ4zeIMIQ6XGT_DpFCHnFhdFW9R-HtQRM2MJ03dQ00TB5kGhOPdog1a_ul_fLL3sg=w1500-h844-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cIS35OFwXRpLpPELUcbF4F8H8X1QPy2CHVYI-lCevTXaGXuu2Cm-ehdwVaP50j67yO50-_Xb80aNaI3-mImaJJjC71FOo1Ug2rjssq09Ma3B0aF2VpiWV3XbbeKwkOaAO_cOAPOTxpaIwh89DfCYJUYw=w1500-h921-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ckuPqKyNvbNOfR9qtFWvZrDBABi0WUq7FLEV7o12qc6RaSV08dg_rFfw3zvIUAGoddIgu9xYcRokDK1NqospVFBBZwAMANxrdCa-bPg4lawoJ-ftPBZheWBq5vAPK-3S8wadEXaoEh27s3hf3w5lExPA=w1185-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eFjQKBeDYXBo8pZN7uo8htnZ8hpTq0y9P2DC2cwR0UKgAnWBu910H789cvG6Cv02vibqaYoLVGVuZnezqujn8Bqf6oE7FnF-i6QtzGXvQCdm5PLZKlLXiNoGAOOKGvvHKTlcQqL6eVMqffYc-wXE9qXQ=w1500-h899-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on June 12, 2020, 03:59:18 PM
Looks fantastic Chris.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: amato1969 on June 12, 2020, 05:53:31 PM
So much detail and goodness!

  Frank
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on June 12, 2020, 08:45:46 PM
Chris, very convincing work. that water looks so good and natural.
you really nailed it!


sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 15, 2020, 02:46:33 AM
Don't know if I posted this before or not. Just another started project I dusted off.

At the mouth of the Columbia River the Army Corps would build long trestles out into the ocean. Then they would use unique 4 wheel flatcars that had a center section that tipped to haul large rocks out on the trestle and dump. This rock wall helped the currents somehow. The long rock walls were called "jettys". Anyways the Army Corp had a crap load of locomotives, 4 of them were this little 0-4-2T that I started building.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e6ifZTgTQ3tCnkId3yNtdd8eG1b-P4YBsRHlplqy4PX7mf7-URbm0DMeaRDJDWfwwkBo3QjtekvmxIQW8nTGAlrxjBbRNg0kzW3OhsfxSrt24SA2Eh58yqQRtkt7zEDEVR5neicMvtVFwPAXTZwlQQFQ=w1164-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

This might just be one of the locomotives:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&search=coos+bay+jetty&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1#/media/File:Dumping_rock_on_jetty_LCCN00650204.tif

Oh I think I found one:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dVHJZYa7Z10ZVdZwWCByDQbk9KgGB7np-7RiLzqLnZke5Q6tQCv5roksbdcj0g7eMGW-0tcYE64XKrGPN54QgQet5oJEGMA94Dt0UmebUwBHxFLmgZhp-zD1NKRHr9mRTiBceS6DKs8v6iEyammK_Dsg=w1000-h692-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: johnb on June 15, 2020, 03:44:24 AM
Don't know if I posted this before or not. Just another started project I dusted off.

At the mouth of the Columbia River the Army Corps would build long trestles out into the ocean. Then they would use unique 4 wheel flatcars that had a center section that tipped to haul large rocks out on the trestle and dump. This rock wall helped the currents somehow. The long rock walls were called "jettys". Anyways the Army Corp had a crap load of locomotives, 4 of them were this little 0-4-2T that I started building.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e6ifZTgTQ3tCnkId3yNtdd8eG1b-P4YBsRHlplqy4PX7mf7-URbm0DMeaRDJDWfwwkBo3QjtekvmxIQW8nTGAlrxjBbRNg0kzW3OhsfxSrt24SA2Eh58yqQRtkt7zEDEVR5neicMvtVFwPAXTZwlQQFQ=w1164-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

This might just be one of the locomotives:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&search=coos+bay+jetty&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1#/media/File:Dumping_rock_on_jetty_LCCN00650204.tif

Oh I think I found one:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dVHJZYa7Z10ZVdZwWCByDQbk9KgGB7np-7RiLzqLnZke5Q6tQCv5roksbdcj0g7eMGW-0tcYE64XKrGPN54QgQet5oJEGMA94Dt0UmebUwBHxFLmgZhp-zD1NKRHr9mRTiBceS6DKs8v6iEyammK_Dsg=w1000-h692-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
1. That looks great, I can't wait to see updates.
2. I have 4 projects in the works, I get it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 15, 2020, 04:25:45 AM
Incidentally I'm pretty sure this is what I ordered (the cab) from Shapeways and found it would be almost a month to receive. During that time I decided to get my own 3D printer, ordered it, received it, and printed my first model all before the Shapeways order showed up. 
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 25, 2020, 01:47:05 PM
More concept planning. The EBT had a 2-8-0 based on the D&RGW C-19, it was later sold to the Ohio River & Western. Just a 3D body plopped down on my Lawndale 2-8-0 chassis (Bachmann). I would have to lower the cylinder saddle so the front boiler sat lower. Since the Bachmann wheelbase is a little short I had to shorten the loco body by 2 feet. I also narrowed the cab 6".
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3co0nZsnbIRMuGQKunY1nC6I5DpNYnA1hkGRH40kn1B7x1i0Yt0WWz3_BXE3-nw2Q9H76zg79YClpGTfFW8j-bmMtHaRmYdgeZ8bDDLyeMda9WeavkV-T0N3BSAO4dKMZNSinRcRAcT6zqUBEuYHayPHA=w1000-h516-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cvXIr8jOE3erMHlEwjzvZ9SnqRCSFI2qXAS1i-504GKCt_wYleVi3kbo2tErvVs7Waicvzk3qlCppZ54dXu3gvcc3CRhLehvNJU8FCbs_OeLsbDI9YVsedyvs7Nivs4r5d6JOUsnENw2goaur15-J4ig=w1000-h398-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3elSIkWWf9Vzrej_Oso4wnILUh8wsX0WNVH3-tadqC7e32T4SRi8ZAQZonxnION36ipHzUVNpQNBwlbxplZVATFu6EarmfEmObSF5K2s6yHIMT1BMKWBMknomR7wgAv0ZxnXooGMkvD26nnNu5GeE_70g=w1000-h454-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on June 25, 2020, 01:52:44 PM
Oh damn, that's hot.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on June 25, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
Chris,

Talk to me a little more about that mech.  If that's the Bachmann 2-8-0 we all know and love, where did the steam chests and saddle come from?  If it's 3-D printed it's an excellent print!  As for the mech itself, the counterweights look out of quarter.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 25, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
It has lead a rough life  :lol:  The cylinders are here:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/49V6XXU8S/hon30-280-cylinder?optionId=62805306&li=shops
and they are moved forward just a bit to hide the N scale-ness.

This is the pilot that fits into those cylinders:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/3XLLUW3NM/lawndale-pilot-4?optionId=82357194&li=shops
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 25, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
And I bought a few books. The Tuscarora Valley RR was one valley over from the EBT. One more valley over was the Newport & Sherman's Valley RR. There were plans to connect all 3 railroads, but it never happened. The TV had what they called "Market cars" that were a boxcar with windows where farmers would ride in and sell at each stop along the way. No plans for it, but I found a guy who did one in LGB scale:
https://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/TVRR207/TVRR20708.jpg
I sized the photo so the car was 24' long, put it in CAD to trace over it and turned it into 3D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3evUPwx5BEf9kI1SqZ3tBgJ4aRZdvKs_iWdt0XBIEqwA9N7qzVFYQzEW6TrvmfeW7JLROhDk6Nc5ZqW2iym9PelSLhKRoONLyr11jPF1rXLOWDIh78uzBsAXQjKEPzroJ60Eu8i6Gx7I_4pOUr_TMh7mQ=w1000-h448-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3chqPp1QYfClJR8Dnx15v1wL33AEJe5FvYU3rNH-duAg2cr9UVJioV-mdoBjG1vQwAHxbWY6FgPWqVUZPKCx4hKa3RMIt5J9445Rxbq24rXbEoL54y0q3Bi0IQeCVCp0GtV11aWQ3nTsLexVYz_-DnaCw=w1000-h522-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cxtNpGGa5mXN_x4qHoXJ61fDVn5UoHtRrDlgW_GwIxt2l4la-4nMDXiuA4kGkWs_Sv-1TVB0KcKe4llABjaxL-3sQqnBJsvohQ8l6werCbmeGZFQgPl_8sN2pS361CXH6bKR0YfAqYv0FpTpy-nv-SRg=w800-h720-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
It is shiny now for decals, will weather more when done.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on June 29, 2020, 11:11:05 PM
Looks great! How did you orient that one for printing? I've been working on a 30' D&RGW box car that is going to be my next project
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 30, 2020, 12:02:35 AM
Perfectly flat:
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/18/109-300620000051-183622249.jpeg)
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/18/109-300620000051-183621197.jpeg)

Just put a few extra supports at the corners so it doesn't rip off during printing.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 03, 2020, 04:17:58 PM
So I do stupid stuff. I saw this photo of a narrow gauge 0-6-0T that was used in New Castle PA. Looked in the Gazette and found a Porter 0-6-0 with a tender. I drew a tank on it and said bingo that is it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3emUfslsafqnQRem8JTsN0b8iHMt6YVkCOVWck7Afa5uGgZz6Oa9I8xAwtwEe_HrD70L4y6bLiHyTDfIYE48iUGsEJyZWULa2tgMLohmagEznc468F2GoVTZVkq5Rxlm4JiKm3KVOBPhWzSCaUZnz1E1A=w1000-h503-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d6_kqNrR4fCijYuLXI6qJ4U5mNQb1jEsLNMWHkJ2Md61VBIncBJtVqCN2gb3WLfoN64Ge4WbYKXUgpDQKyBdqFL5VUWsY1h1QwaaqNBWLow9ew3CP_plYXhZveY6rykbE5vU2_dNFBMImgONBfEN03vw=w1000-h575-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Well it looks like the driver are too big  :facepalm:  That is a Bachmann 4-6-0 chassis cut down.

So does anyone know the measurments of these Lifelike 0-6-0 drivers?
http://www.spookshow.net/loco/ll060.html
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on July 03, 2020, 05:40:22 PM
Chris, you're an animal. I love it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 28, 2020, 03:07:19 AM
So my Photon is down and I can't print right now  :scared: I bought a new one that will be here Friday. It failed while trying to print sand and steam domes.

The 2-6-0 I showed back on page 28... scratch that. This is the "new" 2-6-0 coming:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dnkeexic-LVUfF4KSRk6VOZnCvXaHmnHQZUyKSNm1s4_yY5H0S4yncpcNM5JJ6sJnSJ94OhJHYatt0Y0YdMQreBr20ItyKxEe_qb4u8B02HTO7p9cNeOS-ZksCUUGXR9ru0IHz3origBkDmyGIjkzeFQ=w1524-h875-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Cairo & St Louis No. 6 named "Sparta". They ordered a bunch of them in 1872, but canceled some before delivery. One of them went to the EBT and was their very first locomotive. One went to the D&RGW. And a few other railroads got em too. The one in this photo went to the Painesville & Youngstown railroad that once crossed my street.  :)

Just happens David Fletcher did drawings of the D&RG's sister loco:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cWQhhHSxZKDQA2LMFq7jbL1Gx87ZDLPwOFp6qMHIkjqmhMv0SmLRbiVD5IcOLuHEdQYKucGMtnhLhfBPbWCneJjglY2Pz1VZKpxoT3hV6dhW8d4fzdVsjJmZHZEnzwzqCHbY0LVyzzpnkMIJnBD_nNWg=w1324-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

So that will make things much easier! I found out the the P&Y ordered a 4 wheel tender for it just 1 year after it was delivered, but I'm trying to keep the 3 wheel tender. I like it.

Insert photo of cool 3D parts forming a locomotive here when the new Photon shows up.  :|  The wine color shown on the EBT loco is correct before 1877, after that it would have been olive. I'm freelancing so mine will be olive colored.  :D


And the shorty C-19 is still on. I re-drew the whole model with more circle segments so it no longer looks like a stop sign.

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: garethashenden on July 28, 2020, 09:14:21 AM
How does a three wheel tender work? I think you meant axle  :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Steveruger45 on July 28, 2020, 10:42:51 AM
How does a three wheel tender work? I think you meant axle  :trollface:

Ok, I’m baited.   Answer- very wobbly indeed. 😆
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 28, 2020, 06:58:12 PM
Huge gyro in the tender and a third rail.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2020, 02:53:45 AM
You guys will have to settle for virtual modeling right now. To show the tender better the Bells Gap RR had a 0-6-0 that was pretty much teh same other than the pilot wheel.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cAJDHrKuGNk_600DZPAnujb-2Gu3EirlX19l-58mrDDSXsaVK4eofc5x4Bi-xHyQyCJaxEbTreESzWyL31NEisJDCF5fSpTTM7i2we0ncaq_AtM14ftkhBjvpcxh1Ymi_z10m1MyNv1i-5I_8qANe6Mg=w1524-h885-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Here is my cab:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3crxBM0DrfyW9HJW-KnLFn_XygcDvWERxKe4TRGXst2bZBdhtyGGKJDM49zPkwdUxDV6fwM0lDRNqII15j2zdaArYdbqxRpMAfmwe4orzDTWlwKLaQwDZHzRaeaeSCXUxrODCSwBX9BjJ1Bv2yyva_eGg=w1000-h629-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Domes:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e3cDgSh6DP6c9D2mxXCpTGsfjikCcWtHn8ZLmKf3nKXU2nuVI5433m7lRC_hRGRBmRqBn85izvHw6A-StqUjG42iQaUaWG5IvHfjGlOOmalezMMbRwAmEVUw-QxA36E6NhZYHLuNi_i2bhvZeVTUIopA=w1000-h583-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Tender body:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fsG0Dpo-ayvnfQWWwA8W1MfVlXTJ9PLl_KTSZ6w3PzONKeNik0DGfjNGvoD05OJVWof2ZvsJqOvX0EaTBCfPeBbPgxqsDdUYiuFm5AjaTqNlxKgzXyJvGLAO__fgAk39kZfC_nTn2bFF5hRdsBpaJZGg=w1000-h540-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And the frame:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3djdlyWR3N_mbC03PqSE9MgEoEMLtLvfxt4wUryWaIZM_PhV8EozczrzSsxb7c60AVVe9TOoe-XgUiEKYkm8wC0KQe8ohMl0CWznVgE3mONNE3BNUWnZ-A2lfiHq1L8hPwMFmyvwtur3akmrqT9qE8lHQ=w1000-h552-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

The frame will get Kato axle end pickup cup wipers that I will cut up and re-solder together to get them to fit.

And I'm told the locomotives have 2 steam domes because the throttle is up front instead of the back. Have no idea why  :?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2020, 03:01:47 AM
And even though these locos were built in 1872 they could have lasted a while. The one EBT got was later sold to the Tuscarora Valley RR in 1916 and wasn't scrapped till 1922. So will fit in on my 1910-1915ish layout.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on July 30, 2020, 11:12:07 AM
@Chris333 - It appears to me that the front of the cab, ahead of the engineer and likely on the other side, is angled from the boiler to the cab side wall. 
I thought maybe it might be an illusion but I'm not sure as much of the front of the cab wall ahead of the engineer, above the running board would be visible if it were square all the way across?
It also occurred to me that it's likely you have drawings and I'm just wrong though.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on July 30, 2020, 11:27:49 AM
@Chris333 - It appears to me that the front of the cab, ahead of the engineer and likely on the other side, is angled from the boiler to the cab side wall. 
I thought maybe it might be an illusion but I'm not sure as much of the front of the cab wall ahead of the engineer, above the running board would be visible if it were square all the way across?

Pretty sure there are no angles. Look at the shadow cast by the cab roof over those parts you believe might be angled in the second proto image. If they were, the shadow would be shaped differently.

Of course, I could be wrong--I often am.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 30, 2020, 11:59:39 AM
Aren't the rear two axles on the prototype tender a pivoting truck?  How are you going to get that tender through a curve if it's a rigidly mounted three-axle tender?  Or is the plan to 3D print the tender frame and cut the truck sideframes off for the rear two axles?

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on July 30, 2020, 12:00:38 PM
Aren't the rear two axles on the prototype tender a pivoting truck?  How are you going to get that tender through a curve if it's a rigidly mounted three-axle tender?  Or is the plan to 3D print the tender frame and cut the truck sideframes off for the rear two axles?

If the wheelbase is short enough, it ought to work OK.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2020, 12:18:32 PM
About the rigid tender. The Atlas 2-6-0 has 4 axles on 2 trucks and none of them pivot. I remember an old Tyco HO scale steam loco that was powered by the tender, it has stiff trucks as well.

About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 30, 2020, 12:47:15 PM
Well, I guess my point is what makes you think it is rigidly mounted?  Do you have detailed plans that confirm that is rigidly mounted?  The picture you posted clearly has daylight peeking through over the sideframe.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
Oh no in real life it has a pivot  :)

In fake life though it will be easier to keep it stiff.

This is the Atlas 2-6-0:
http://www.spookshow.net/loco/atlas260.html
The tender trucks are mounted solid to the side of the tender, no bolsters at all.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on July 30, 2020, 01:03:14 PM
About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.


Yeah, I was talking about the #1, not the #6.  The #6 clearly looks flat though I thought the #1 looked like it might be angled.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2020, 07:50:06 PM
Everything is just laying there loose.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fbLeCwgQx78VpgTma2kSJxAHnB0TuOmaIANsfUfJeJPuCNWp8usT9eEz4bnPMglzs7lXaRqoPUOKJucyoDTvvPTcyGHgUv7WcWBLvetXm4m7naWHN3TW9pK3EouoIwNLK5HO4GiipiraICFeacc8EcGg=w1000-h592-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3euhX8Rh0TrS7TqzLymUQnQQtZOTObjatnP1UeHUn5fl3WgMbxGgpvSxav5DvqSPWccghacHLuXChPxLzz-oHXv-n9_axM4HX9pUWTfvCJV7NvEdgjO0P4zgUjk77SaST2VC_tKGdadFm7Xnwz7jSpdBg=w1000-h658-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dOv7tFqK_orM75k8BPODfzvvdN8hs0DGOrlRmTcZqWYs_JUGiF5rnVQKRaqzCvNVF-P1p7_VF_gIltooWOzO3sQBzH_2OYUHz8h8jM_0-ZlAwPNCjbMPQAvGTyhVOyp6wESmHHvnA-Ordho3DhpIipiA=w1000-h614-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on August 01, 2020, 08:49:33 PM
About the rigid tender. The Atlas 2-6-0 has 4 axles on 2 trucks and none of them pivot. I remember an old Tyco HO scale steam loco that was powered by the tender, it has stiff trucks as well.

About the cab front, what?  The cab front is flat. The EBT loco had a different taller cab without the curvy roof, but the D&RG drawings show the same roof as the proto photos.


i remember a Bachmann 2-8-0 in HO that was tender driven. the powered wheels were fixed -- 1 axle per truck -- and IIRC the truck sides were somewhat enlarged so they could pivot with the other axle per truck. i think it was the middle two axles that were fixed and powered. anyway, other than the atlas/stewart diesels it was the best running and best pulling locomotives in that day (later '70s and early 80's). thanks Chris for stirring those memories. they were some good times!


sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2020, 09:51:41 PM
Here is that old Tyco 2-8-0:
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/steamengines/id2.html

I forget what road name I had  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Philip H on August 02, 2020, 09:59:01 AM
Quote
Everything is just laying there loose.

TWSS

 :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 02, 2020, 10:24:14 AM
In fake life though it will be easier to keep it stiff.

TWSS

 :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2020, 05:21:43 AM
I know it's highly unusual for me, but I started another project  :P

Probably 20 years ago I tried to make a HOn30 Climax out of a LifeLike SW. I posted it a while back:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dH013n3UpJH9DOtkHTtEHcO3AGe4jQYMY0Bt4WO6cdIMCL-UV9S8WHeYO535ob0wFs0dnEe-9SreKlgnTSfuEk0V7p2wQRLE1TIU34IuCtFORu-lgiIhIa29oh4KmtFFUwgPgwfOiHXDo3EhA5xY3cdg=w1421-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
At the time I just glued on some HOn3 sideframes and it looked pretty good, but it is too short. The LL SW wheels are a little bit too large in dia, but that is perfect for HOn30.

Figured I would give it a try again since the world has 3D now. I dug out a bunch of LL SW parts and made a new frame out of a fiberglass circuit board just because it was stronger than only styrene. I did put a layer of styrene on it to get the thickness right for the trucks to clip into. After I stretched it out I took some brass rod in the lathe and made a connector/flywheel to add another piece of shaft and stick the worm out further.

This is what I came up with:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3frUTIhhTpSLavP8OrhUwWQn-2EiUUvYGl0g-eVSnmt41iHnAHjTwiVSMiT22O_NC-0ch5wtOojSj2WHS8BdYBCCPA-udoj8WMA79-qAga53OTynUc7seVX_5BmM_SYibXb88W_rukj_nBO1DJfvJ2hjA=w1000-h291-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dWpD4liRNHz3iLfMH14H4ydBdEo0oS14d51zsTx1B6GhrBIamU5eUWPUb0U8bERmvRUB1QvpHCA5bLQVYHeYFdLLWfgrez31d7sjsyex6wDYmGYDOMrMnj6OY7UZRDaxxVUWNMBDm5GAe3nWhjYoFWXQ=w1000-h298-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 19, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
I would be a little leery of having a flywheel & shaft assembly sticking out that far without some bearing support to stabilize the shaft.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 19, 2020, 12:02:31 PM
I would be a little leery of having a flywheel & shaft assembly sticking out that far without some bearing support to stabilize the shaft.


Probably could run the shafts longer beyond the worms to add some support?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on August 19, 2020, 12:28:01 PM
Chris,

Looks like a great start, I'm looking forward to watching your progress.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 20, 2020, 05:02:59 PM
I took brass Climax sideframes and put them in my scanner. Then traced over them to a 3D print. Glued the new sideframe on to the LL trucks.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eiJyg4tSJTfH20AnJiXOYSGa40cB_XK43Yqj2tY2ust_kva6Q44Y7MjU6QjYdcmRS6qy6bnB8CnXxtpLVgbHb2WRUJIS1_6ANNK6CMtuuWxtcE6kh6un-tJvNcOWU-ou87oHzSWXrUeI0ww48R9YZrNA=w1000-h428-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And it runs! Just as slow as a stock SW. The long side of the motor is only 5/16" longer so I'm sure it will be OK.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 20, 2020, 05:34:09 PM
This is just a place holder, but it shows the type of railroading I'm doing. And I plan to make those hoppers someday.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fRHIevgXowLOo8gQ1ZkPI3Ni2ewDEA2OGP2TuwdfU4HmQVmPXqAUtvdHJYuW_qEkLiYQiVa0ycGgDHFuFIcj2eOL8AaGGt_zzt0MKF8gcnkExEM9qdac5NXFQ8N0vVfb2rw95tRghbiYMsSlQBSvT0uw=w1000-h651-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

This was a small short line that ran from a coal mine to a loader at the standard gauge. The cool thing is that building was the mine office and it is still standing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7437934,-81.2271167,3a,75y,343.44h,88.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVdMWCl-z7aSrJe5jDLMX2Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on August 20, 2020, 05:42:09 PM
And I plan to make those hoppers someday.

Please tell me you plan to make them distressed to varying degrees, with bowed sides and some missing braces, as in the proto-photo. Oh, and a rider on the first car...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 20, 2020, 06:42:29 PM
Please tell me you plan to make them distressed to varying degrees, with bowed sides and some missing braces, as in the proto-photo. Oh, and a rider on the first car...

Yessir!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 21, 2020, 03:12:57 AM
This will be the general layout of the Climax I'm building:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3c2ArOayiKtBVGv6X2gPhbA2qO9NK3qLFX9QXW1A1YzLNMHxxUFXfCiq-0Sc3cfwlYHWJQ2ZZyOR9Vvxl8nVT0pARLehjBxTBA3Bi1zzIB26lbfuA8o09DStSpbgzeZo2RKp8DfJuR-jIDRk6uG4iZoaw=w896-h511-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

About 15 tons, wagon top boiler, enclosed rear wall and side windows to help hide the motor.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 21, 2020, 05:31:53 AM
Did the 3D deck. This will end up being printed in brass for weight, but I can see that it fits and I got the coupler height right on the first shot  :lol:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cUCFnLzctmfQhwVhOKSEwzm_OKWlk0uIdGGl_YoqEkJkVTNbIz5DxlBrc1PGrTrFMS03KRAxqwhbGek8C6_pdcEksYpnH2Lnv1PRuMOM5UMGikOujmCWIyIQRHnyR8VwT89QfSkC-TlJkWq4XwP4PoXQ=w1000-h404-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cEU_xOKsgSxo_yZXYWM8QzzcVutoCTtV9L-BAlB6FNFun3qIGFCq1N3HWq0LyRWk1MXO0Goj2bi5YTqM8c6w0nlK_Z5yycC9p8oyhyB1hzsSzgIDFFWdqCogeqericcB1vz9R7rULT6DROCJ7hgvORjA=w1000-h628-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 22, 2020, 02:12:49 AM
My plan was to print the frame in brass at Shapeways and resin print the rest at home. But the frame came out to $96  :scared:   So I added the side walls and it came to $128. Added the rear wall and $140. So I hollowed out some under the frame and got the whole thing down to $117.

For fun I uploaded the boiler and it came to $49 in brass. Guess I'll do the boiler and water tank in resin.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fVsIw9wRLSNZ8N17bn2AQympaUpgD8tjwNWWJRRu-BZ6OJDnOJ3fGAvjkqyAAmpes_yzyGm7qtkKY0bdZ0KB0pe7OXUJRJYZR11EgLDFQot8mdzhm_HLg7G5aKK6pOUvthqYugBCBbwKkMvs6Mc88ueg=w800-h578-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ffulBPnOZdnt_VdugV6OKSun4RLY6FV-jHw97mVR99FwOZVGcswWqQIwXMkroB6JvOnHNXGWeuRWqWjnpL5rLiGtsXaumt0FZ9Fp2tX_b-xuhH2cI0cOoYZuzjCLxGXlPecWmRg34SoB-UOg_FoRdbRw=w800-h761-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on August 22, 2020, 07:34:38 AM
Why not print the boiler and water tank in brass for $49.00 and print the frame and walls at home in resin?  It would save you a chunk of cash and that brass boiler and water tank should give you plenty of weight.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 22, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
I'm my other video you can see the resin bare frame is enough weight to pull a train up the hill. But the brass frame would help to keep it from becoming a banana.

And I added the water and sand tanks to the back platform, back up to $140 again...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 23, 2020, 02:27:02 AM
Started a new thread on another small layout I'm building:
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=50322.msg677635#msg677635

Will still post here when I work on this layout.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 07, 2020, 09:01:34 PM
Some random digging around and I found a photo of the back of the mill I built a model of:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cRuEIZ7V0ov8gWtzu8WMM5zvhK8991fEf0M-1a8Dmv8npDdxjX1X4MqEYj_qd6SY5XTyKYMNcwKdImeKKvF4J0r8yCgaMEK0t80feNZG0yfDZeBFGTEQmWJmkZXwIaD5-finVJ0BGgV3gsIG7bVcVy9A=w1000-h792-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

This is how I guessed it looked:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cskeWJxWqtYv7M6v-QHtBeIOTFbqFUAOyQfYI60fz6Ux4IKvB07BtHvpQvH5RtPB_snqXN4m78zUGPQ1JneZ1NTe_N6dOR7eBhOGzPXO0ov-yNToP_dATj2wMn-SJwjiO-jjZsUnft18e6fFx2WEH3iQ=w1000-h885-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Always surprised at the amount of stuff you can find online.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 11, 2021, 03:10:29 AM
A while back I did a C19 test that was based on the EBT 2-8-0. I have since did a much better print of the loco body and just yesterday did an all new tender. The loco body was shortened about 2 feet between the cab and steam dome. This was to better fit the Bachmann 2-8-0 chassis. The tender is also shorter, but it is the same size as EBT #11's tender. This was a while back:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3elSIkWWf9Vzrej_Oso4wnILUh8wsX0WNVH3-tadqC7e32T4SRi8ZAQZonxnION36ipHzUVNpQNBwlbxplZVATFu6EarmfEmObSF5K2s6yHIMT1BMKWBMknomR7wgAv0ZxnXooGMkvD26nnNu5GeE_70g=w1000-h454-no?authuser=0?jpg)

And here it is now.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dvI4obLQl1Uhut9fnHa8MIy1AGhrhDQh3PARWhAVWHcS5gckscofHr9zGmjHRCng2FUKv7R7qHnSMbvwF_F8tQzdZJrBiAp8PxWC1S0FqWth7NvhTUM6Vfn-qy9CwLT9RocddQxwR3gx5_lnXhJPkObw=w1000-h527-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fwNhFUjFiv3_QEKYCFodJe7vGZpB4NJRXfxSffka7X5tI94omD-O6QnSnTY-5sBPlaUqPtlCFnjc3AJ5-1ZqpkoU7yHJpWO_PM6_GLX0fmFfCmzdRVddGXs6Cv9SYaqwVp-EkksyB9snwfbkW1zOuohA=w1000-h329-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Right now the top of the boiler is at scale height, but my driver are a little smaller so I think I need to lower the boiler more to make it "fit" better. This is the EBT loco: https://www.mylargescale.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EBT7/EBT708.jpg
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on January 11, 2021, 03:29:38 AM
That is so cool Chris.
I possess neither the skill nor the time to do what you're doing.
Is that a gauge in the side of the dome?
Will you use strip Styrene or brass for the boiler banding?
I really don't believe anyone in the World outside of you will have an issue with the overall height or the space between the running gear and the bottom of the boiler.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 11, 2021, 04:27:09 AM
The little white piece would just be a pipe fitting into the dome for the sand line. Instead of just drilling a hole and pushing wire into it I stepped it to look better.

Boiler bands were usually iron and would be planished like the boiler.  The bands are there and part of the 3D print. I'm not doing brass bands.

The tender is lower than prototype to make up for the tender wheels that are too small. They are Kato SDmac whatever diesel wheels (38"?) inside Kato trucks with new sideframes. Since the tender is lower I think a lower boiler will look better all around. Guess it is the HOn30 curse. In HOn3 I could just throw $700 at a Blackstone C19 and go straight to running trains, but then I would need broader curves. trust me it is all about the right "look" to me. I've redone the tender 3 times just because it didn't look right to me. It was too scale, but just didn't look right.  :)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Mike C on January 11, 2021, 05:53:32 PM
Chris  you have the look down. The drivers are a bit small, but I think that you could get away with it . and I hear you on the Blackstone prices .
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 18, 2021, 11:31:58 AM
Chris, that engine looks amazing.  I really don't think the driver size detracts at all.  After all, the low-slung small-driver look is exactly what we associate with narrow gauge consolidations.  Even if you were modeling EBT 11 exactly, I'd call it more than good 'nuff.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on January 18, 2021, 11:55:03 AM
To add to what Dave Vollmer said, I think the small drivers will be less noticeable once the locomotive is painted a darker color than that resin print.  Looks real close to EBT No. 7 to me.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:East_Broad_Top_Railroad_7.jpg

How did they fire locomotives like this, with such a disparity between the cab floor and the tender deck?  Was the backhead (and hence the clamshell doors) close to the end of the cab floor?  Surely, they didn't have to climb into the cab while shoveling coal.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: k27463 on January 18, 2021, 12:23:27 PM
How did they fire locomotives like this, with such a disparity between the cab floor and the tender deck?  Was the backhead (and hence the clamshell doors) close to the end of the cab floor?  Surely, they didn't have to climb into the cab while shoveling coal.

DFF

The backhead likely continued to the back of the cab with the fire doors near the lower half to match the deck height of the tender.

I believe all (at the very least, most) of the D&RGW narrow gauge 2-8-0s were built like this as well as countless other locomotives.  I've attached a photo of D&RGW C-16 #278 that I shot this summer.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on January 18, 2021, 12:36:14 PM
The backhead likely continued to the back of the cab with the fire doors near the lower half to match the deck height of the tender.

I believe all (at the very least, most) of the D&RGW narrow gauge 2-8-0s were built like this as well as countless other locomotives.  I've attached a photo of D&RGW C-16 #278 that I shot this summer.

Right.  The C-19 class on the D&RGW/RGS was similar, with the backhead flush with the back wall of the cab.  To keep the fireman warm during Colorado's long winters, they often hung heavy canvas curtains that closed off the space on the footplate between the cab and the tender.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on January 18, 2021, 01:32:37 PM
You can see how it works on 475's cab here:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/475_in_the_enginehouse.JPG)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: packers#1 on January 18, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
Efficient, if cramped, use of footprint
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2021, 03:20:15 PM
Sorta like that last photo. The center of the cab floor dropped down to the same level as the tender.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on January 18, 2021, 05:11:59 PM
Lowered the body about .040" I like it now. Got the tender trucks painted up.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fLwQKv65VBiut4CG68sY_wEu3klMnnUP2O42F63iYtOz-zryoOIFFxq82TnmNnnl9W2tj9GeY1VGqAlCWcKZvkParWrY7_YfXwCqQmJrgGfYIwJs7oR5EyNfLzyGLUvrbz_tbxd0qU_w8mRmGImdjtYA=w1000-h412-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

There was a proposed 2-8-0 for the 2' gauge SR&RL that had a lower boiler so modeling 30" gauge I have to fall somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 11, 2021, 03:29:31 AM
Feelin' cute, might delete later...

So I haven't done $hit in a long while. My feet were hurting a lot and after months it just sorta went away. Hard to go do something when you don't even want to stand up. I even gained a few pounds that I've now lost. But anyways it sucked. And now I'm pretty much 100% reading glasses to work on models. Now I know many of you here wear glasses and it's no big deal, but it also sucks. I was putting lacing on a conveyor belt at work all realized I could barely see and had to move my head back. And now I know the phenomenon where you put the glasses on for 5 min and spend the next 5 hours reaching for them because it feels like they are on my head, but they aren't. Mom always said life sucks and then you die.  :P

After turning my Sonic mini 4K printer into a jack stand I started using it. This small 24" gauge loco was one of two used at a paper mill.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eNsTdNfLZosnqV6GUNpNwPsvrrHyigRMSC4AyFFb8pZEhkDHT0313BsV1yWjeM2IPz2NLeK_XsUzvX8tRHr1sAgEg1wb0uLCp3w7f8h7klpDZsCzt_01cuu2Ca_PsdAPnom-XYsMehxqfRLV6KxnYrUg=w1000-h579-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
It was recently restored and I found a guy who measured the whole loco so I had plans to draw it up.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cOMUE48PgfSJRMWwbX_qjF6U_ymmX7o3UyqBYZZkhYaWHUvvQ5uaO2lhdYzkJNMDQTFMa8UxqVU6JcqlASrv4zWtOz3Gcs3-4Tr47VMQ6d3P7RXMTYwJQjxJOZNLc1aHo5_F-UeBJk08H8yyQXbHABeQ=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Put it on a Bachmann Percy chassis:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fqq71byfFb0IWLbkanTXSLHsGYFkD9-lqJJs_TJVfX169dS4JYO-iaZNppNalxypnxmrWYJSdG4Jz3C8Rx_ZK_44XCfs-E5AYHYyMpG0Df7npfBE-t5JcGM6wWuzO2iXOyYg6bLnQ0El9ZiCUFTmQVTQ=w1000-h925-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cNWV6mhKVBsIFvYAd9q286mz-Bsqabq74nN0onUzLIi8Xd_zB1QZMd86gqUAHTE1VwRZca199UpHf83ljJ7MKM8F7ueFy8hwUmaX0IZAcl4UZky7Js2nLJI7s76_71aU37tKt1RO-RiWzRWbeAg5ylGA=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
And the real loco was painted green, but the restored loco is a little bit too light a green. Here's mine:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fNG09R99c29xTYFSRDZtJsdGPAIpIfotCDATrJG1EJukzb2ALpX8BXwU4G1DADmZ5alBwIDVnqYVHpmCZ0G0eA2Eq7snym4lqzd6SNRbIu43uPktMfcJWer7VRxpmryLJbt8SEYas0wzS95v5GblX0fQ=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)


And I started a little 18x36" race track.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fCQQhOcTDQJKW-J70GEiJIteDxL7yMBjq-IZAbp9r7Hcb40BoUIIUhaFQrcHBgD5wzhKFcJ-Es1MbnvXKCl_fDJKPGNZp_Do1UBBX6rJjLsp5vwf21C3Roc5iWmIzNYep8PTmv9lzhQgeDwANXskw4ig=w1000-h617-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dasB3hF1Vahv_HGho9N9nqDKtXJEFqI4o0pAAVawXFj6VCD9DDFcA7LrZ1jlIkql9u4kjic-ujrEYvdxsBDXnJLOsCiIIeoyqSbe9GH8JjvraJopfcRVhOZe6aQAYSgeBz5lE5cA92GWRA4elUxcJzbw=w1000-h565-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dSdZviX5f7a6hnGlIjUnBVw3LGJqLwNQJmRgSpQETypPzOTrkx22UptqijNHWUr9u6WxVw1mpuaNFlkjIYRlPeHLHw70tNcsA3Sn2_gqvgcJLwkrDhxGjvWOVcan6Rgm9JSEL7Mvg9CC29IZQYlea6vw=w1000-h581-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

The foreground bridge is 3D printed in 6 pieces with 2 brass rods running thru it. The depot/general store is based on "Coats" on the Ohio River & Western. Many on their depots were just general stores that were named after the farm they were on. The windows are 3D printed. The other buildings have some 3D parts as well. The mill is Mabry Mill since there are plans for it online. I did the water wheel and race in 3D.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 11, 2021, 03:37:19 AM
Here is the real loco.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on June 11, 2021, 08:07:00 AM
Chris,

You've got some mad skillz on a 3D printer!  Holy cow, and how well that print holds up under macro photography.  Impressive.  Sorry about your feet and eyes, though.  Hope you're feeling much better.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on June 11, 2021, 04:25:30 PM
So I haven't done $hit in a long while. My feet were hurting a lot and after months it just sorta went away. Hard to go do something when you don't even want to stand up. I even gained a few pounds that I've now lost.

sorry to hear of the sucky stuff, Chris, glad you are feeling better.
as to your modeling: WOW! that is a fantastic 3D print and the new layout has a lot of character.
great work!

sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on June 11, 2021, 11:22:33 PM
OK, I give...  What does that little bugger run on, and where do they keep it?  I don't see a bunker, or any fuel anywhere!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 12, 2021, 01:51:43 AM
OK, I give...  What does that little bugger run on, and where do they keep it?  I don't see a bunker, or any fuel anywhere!

Usually there was a small box on the fireman's side to hold coal. This says they were built as oil fired, but they converted to coal after 3 people died trying to re-fill the oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._D._Warren_Paper_Mill
Oh and it looks like they had 4 two foot locomotives. The Boothbay Railway Village now has #1 and #2.

This is a similar locomotive. The green box on the left is for the coal: http://www.rgusrail.com/album/mihfm/wcr_7_01.jpg
And you could fill it up from the outside: https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/211763#slide=gs-222542

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Davenport_locomotive_at_Okahukura%2C_owned_by_the_Public_Works_Department._ATLIB_7635.png

Pretty much the same loco as mine without the cab. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/1903_06_06_Page_5a_%2821604075561%29.jpg
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: kurmujjin on June 12, 2021, 10:36:56 PM
Thanks!  Very cool.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 13, 2021, 02:13:44 AM
Waiting on a MV lens for the headlight and window glazing.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eR-xyHk49nxrGPwtsudCg7Z7sm3-96tYQzNNpimBL6Ap4TGzZO8PeogEXl7vVPkty18Kxz10HvGSDtsOAivu7f5HzTg7YVwjiw0QUgZQ9gBb47JHhanRGryhVIt9Y1bO3s1UZ69IjjJ0VLp9wHDQFdsA=w1000-h844-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dO3YfdGpdwvpJiOjou6hVunQd0Gkh_pGkw_hvcnYJRPzlCawpLtqBdLoGuEBBhMcyWzgKwNyHlSS27OPr1rIA0Kw4mwv8wuD_jc0XR7xlOfAYZq_g8Nc3ISSSQO-tW-10ZSr8yFkvOgZykKXf5IEuerw=w1000-h636-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dsgxIlrShQvA_JMCKORl3RmNqGDd6XZ5z1bQFCeBzUsIyT9IhM-U0zgPGv7lE-kHDu1_yTtAZdliw3jKG6Dy2WSddFToCbdci5WlFKptBsgr4QwDrn451aKtFFf4wn3vted8r6NFeZYK-tbf42EChOmw=w1000-h747-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fiIpSRkZ3CTtks5Y5ZVHbO-3urX33T_BYZjJqc2LIFnGkwPW0tvUcoUFZkG4QSHTKnPobWD1ZG0KieE-JVRFijxlplLqBiyrng-IlcooFqJkcKnbc8PT-Tn8FhGrbQgkjdaVD0jcYSGVJpqzyUKiuXPg=w1000-h448-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on June 13, 2021, 11:16:35 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fiIpSRkZ3CTtks5Y5ZVHbO-3urX33T_BYZjJqc2LIFnGkwPW0tvUcoUFZkG4QSHTKnPobWD1ZG0KieE-JVRFijxlplLqBiyrng-IlcooFqJkcKnbc8PT-Tn8FhGrbQgkjdaVD0jcYSGVJpqzyUKiuXPg=w1000-h448-no?authuser=0?.jpg)


Dang you made short work of that lil guy! Nice paint too - good job.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on June 14, 2021, 02:56:52 AM
Yeah Chris, that’s just another in the long line of awesomeness I’ve come to appreciate from you.
Terrific!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on June 16, 2021, 08:23:49 PM
Yeah Chris, that’s just another in the long line of awesomeness I’ve come to appreciate from you.
Terrific!

Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 26, 2021, 02:07:27 PM
Another one. This loco has been bouncing around forever. I first saw it many years ago in a Baldwin catalog. It is a real 30" gauge loco used at a plantation in Hawaii.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3coaLZ8lj823jX87h9CitGyQa-8ITjIhnFQikWbai8_5hjFWxsIugdT6Thvjq-p6-82DT14IP0oMgD5IKldVTHpHYu8fgXdkSvHU_a9WqRuddzb3VBvIPK8vpNWqr7aZlqv_56atozeyuXuuUtM96YiFQ=w1000-h747-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eHBoqYyY05EdTqQqPJcMLY41QOe6IlKrWIq1qzrjU21z8z_uG7cXp4vTGhijed6UsdyV1Rg0imFjxl-k8Vmu4IsNO4abaM6sms-2H_BHAEXFt6AVL2fpEXips5Lg6st4RJh3Lu2mI1CzBNywA_UMJmLg=w1000-h816-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cqNgh0FwolYYnkVJ1Y3LVdxnIZvbizOkFv51gDQsqnXbqFy4U7Pum8Nk6-wtFgdZH9mmJu7yoooR_HkFLZaaku0KjU8Bzp6jdyg-YOkKVXF42IwubjgUcgxk1RDG1iSIaCWqVv3Mr_3mIartQckJgPKw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on June 26, 2021, 02:29:27 PM
And this is Kennebec Central #1. There are very few photos of this loco and it is an odd ball because most of the Maine 2' locos were made by Portland Or Hinkley, this one was made by Baldwin.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3c-Cy0hg0PiyAG9HkGUkjxF8731QBNNV0SWwmj3XLfbIUxQcZ-X0550SqAErUJsABjORkezPuGLkB3cTOFvYPkCnY-2zEwaDRcwRWkHKg7uWNKffTcCwLBXuvGkAQSrn70SY4-anLGNdwWlEdxseDY9RQ=w1000-h807-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3exQWRLNzSD8SJzxU48b5O434zsY4lh9cfHr2SG1QUxcXEIwyiCCgpGCBzRiEMQn8CSwCilmydyQn7Yfudjm1-QFajIXHbsSERo9w-1F9Uuj8GiPGREyo3xREOsTfxKhrPgThjG0WJDcsS57yfVa5E4ig=w1000-h928-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Real loco was outside framed, but the wheelbase and driver size are correct. About 27 years ago I had a Kennebec Central HOn30 layout in the bedroom of my parents house...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 09, 2021, 11:18:42 PM
Trying to get my "water wheel" badge.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXAyJXrk1QEh6_mNPTRXnoov2027zOmio-UnUhh6HEs3DipPHuLCllLaiWLTjy-ru4cEKJ9KCfk-G4QNVKFMjsmm3G3dAI04Tt2keJuJuyR-qeRbcxZVPNj0VOFBO3bjP-52WcDVxF8Uo233oESTNAzXA=w1000-h624-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVj9e1yNd1MiQl-QlaM-pAXmftjFiCHZBIre3dwedNagiw4WnjKU6hefBAIwd1j6wynGGU0vd0GJTEcoril_7XVDvuV470hasGmHxmmaaRyn0M3ffHlf1iePqzrDa9BQQkInYh2zwNdEA9qfCwY9YRtjg=w1000-h750-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I went out of my way to make the wheel and it's axle removable to do scenery and then realized the mill race would sandwich it in place.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 10, 2021, 09:19:12 PM
Amazing what color does.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWX1OSQRsax0V2zLmDTLELBZGoE6zOp0pNIG4e7x-3DiAZQ2w3PhhVKrNHoahyRg1xMJCTBWUZKK5jm_L12IOIJ8USw29OK-f1XaJBoTtAUiTP32yGohYjAtdA4X8Q-3MqJDb3kydAMCbpcs92kTKsCzw=w1000-h521-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

This is just a base wash on the building. I will paint it a cream white color.

And photos that move:
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I cut the first few sections of the mill race off so they will move out of the way to get the wheel out while I do scenery. Also funny how I've had that building fitted to the ground for months, but once I painted it had trouble getting it to seat down.  :RUEffinKiddingMe:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 14, 2021, 03:08:10 AM
Got a little further.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUmCPs8kNci99pxDNWT8odHk4FwJ0D5VhNWMNocJpv5aOjQncS13TWcC3tPIA-zerd_bPJq_cAAAr-LZCgPjTn5XHeOOflj9uvLWS4nIFVh14q6kvuck4llwIvJtD0whXLyDjZLG-gW87VElRn5uuzzag=w1000-h598-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUUweR1YertkWOpEURCq2AEGEd2EEXWwg1bOQRDi468b5dnvYo-oQ0XT4fXotiA7-VzPUV86JRdRriwjiE03q9UJeDd0oDDOuk9hHuji7xp4Pz9IOimK0P1cTbbusfAgdb_fITbkRPMYRb05o5EFoF7wg=w1000-h663-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUnEYzpJ9V5GTYwlJD9LkwSpwf75QXesyd6VAn-tQ8VZ3YWMs6H4jQyUtE1dkUMSM9mt5uhhzMnW3wE4up9eJjU9hgIyvOO8YB1fdXdmGJcbFLc1bGg0MSz6aoVJc1pf49Y2Da-ZyElMgzcLO0s4jKfHQ=w1000-h580-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Dug out my slate shingles to do the roof. Almost out so I go to order more. "sorry that color is no longer available"  :| So ordered all new. Only real difference between slate and asphalt is the color so I'll just color them.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 16, 2021, 03:41:08 PM
Another one  :P

This is a Mattole Lumber Co. 0-4-2. The real thing hauled tan bark less than 2 miles out to a pier to transfer to boats. A guy found it half buried with the rails still under it and did a rebuild. Later he donated it to a museum.

 http://ibls.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=The_Engine_That_Was_Born_Again

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVpn-qWA4gtws_QDR0iZ3HnJdlpXBebqOq_-rPX5xPIvOW_Nl1JEOjAibjo0K2VuBhf7YVbi0CQZHqW9BlpIZN9wrfRHBjMOup5iZKWhDm7kg2iqCnK1tTRvOcAqkLtqoEQI1ey80O_BVlAxL5FvbhVDQ=w1000-h854-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLW6LgI5V0qnUWKYbB-E2J-1prM4iG2h6podZAdu3kTs6rR_9u7t3VCh4ZDkmGw2_lMiIzrI-c8KJrnsWFpe3SeTY0hiQ63KaBrJhg5TMUyo-cG0uZt1s5Ij7McC610f-kXA45T4zXL5UBiaTFoUyvLWHA=w1000-h939-no?authuser=0?.jpg)


It is less than 2.5" long!

A map of the railroad:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=15KG1i067OTr3cpPztWk7hSpY_WiwoVBr&ll=40.2983543797841%2C-124.36197243376591&z=14

A pic of the loco going out on the pier.:
https://mattolehistory.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/22bmlcwharfengine.jpg?w=768
https://mattolehistory.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/26mlcwharfmattolept..jpg?w=768
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 16, 2021, 04:48:59 PM
3D PRINT ALL THE TRAINS!  :lol:

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 17, 2021, 03:57:00 AM
Put the shingles on. Left the wheel off to show the green moss on the wall.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUhQH-1CyTSDM-YN3W6802nrS6DOJDw1KJEqAuAUUx_vq8_wbMHCsTfHyutyPm9qxCws9JKbmIDXg_ZjWAaNCabzIpyuw3dM4DnQFnfKEuzzAz2R2k-rFGeYywZxEhyKiQIk3webYNudB3FmnH5w0O6ww=w1000-h843-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

If anyone has ever applied model shingles, then you know why the rear roof got tar paper  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: DKS on July 17, 2021, 07:00:57 AM
If anyone has ever applied model shingles, then you know why the rear roof got tar paper  :scared:

Yup.

Love the moss, BTW.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 17, 2021, 07:21:54 AM
If anyone has ever applied model shingles, then you know why the rear roof got tar paper  :scared:

I built my mother a dollhouse approximately twenty-five years ago, because she said she never had one when she was little.  She since has given it to my daughter.  When I shingled that roof, I used individual cedar shakes and copper sheet for flashing.  I even weaved the shingles for the ridge cap.  That shingling job took a while, so I can appreciate that tar paper roof on your model.  :)

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CBQ Fan on July 17, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
Put the shingles on. Left the wheel off to show the green moss on the wall.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUhQH-1CyTSDM-YN3W6802nrS6DOJDw1KJEqAuAUUx_vq8_wbMHCsTfHyutyPm9qxCws9JKbmIDXg_ZjWAaNCabzIpyuw3dM4DnQFnfKEuzzAz2R2k-rFGeYywZxEhyKiQIk3webYNudB3FmnH5w0O6ww=w1000-h843-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

If anyone has ever applied model shingles, then you know why the rear roof got tar paper  :scared:

What is the purpose of the hole in the wall?  Interesting feature but I can’t figure it out.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 17, 2021, 09:29:18 AM
What is the purpose of the hole in the wall?  Interesting feature but I can’t figure it out.

That's where the water wheel goes.  Refer to the pictures towards the top of this page.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CBQ Fan on July 17, 2021, 09:32:32 AM
That's where the water wheel goes.  Refer to the pictures towards the top of this page.

DFF

Ah that makes sense!  Only one cup of coffee so far this morning!  Fantastic modeling!!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 20, 2021, 04:01:06 AM
The right side of my little loop
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXEIz_820KldB7L8dYydXtB6dYOJA7Ejw97Pv8R8PwKlLW4oETjAiRWtsOCZPyZgM3nkxWgD03rwU_c3CMizkzL3EDRzbFyg1BEOHhbukCMkwR3LQ4oDNajzDAbJdgH-Z5KlfdM29Ei8WPCbVLpO5BTww=w1000-h608-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on July 20, 2021, 01:40:57 PM
looks really good.  I am surprised you are not printing structure walls
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 20, 2021, 04:18:32 PM
The green bits are 3D printed and the building to the right has 3D windows and doors. It is based on "Coats" along the OR&W:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLX7btWGu8Gk8_fDP7dWbk5JooRdqU1sOAoWuQXv6IdYY66U1s67Osy4HUmBCgllGGj62V1x35ALLfBbW45Udz_4LZTfnNZi8YpvnGpDzifyInWy-VFHyelV0eTyxB5fRyudbE1Ay5PjlAMSYg-wHJkLCA=w1000-h675-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

On the left the 2 buildings are based on ones that once stood a few miles from me in Mineral Ridge Ohio.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUzlj96AcWu6Zv16POu3Jv2HS6e70nHFMRm72Pnbnrg2knSNLMDph-Vs4VgmdUed7D2715sYnhVI7cw3w1gNQlmt5DdYYmQQ6sJkTPOrx0d1cpWObGzRMya3I73WbncoDnIlIA7ZFz0vtW7s0Qw9lOPpg=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
 
and the post office I reversed:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWi5FsmiBR3Iuvz7kmlxd1QGB6pa_ukQgTGnG8OmQ0R0Kli9Frp1-KvhFBWR6z53Vb62GqUcc4TauvlLdr-fC8s_3wFpVL2falE1_J0D_m04j1ayvjwewIjGeimLLNsD_p5_QFbGPmvTwFLowP0-hrQ2g=w1000-h939-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Mineral Ridge had many small coal mines and a gravity railroad that took coal down to the river at the Pennsylvania and Ohio Canal. They even used to manufacture mine equipment here.

In the back left before the bridge will be a small barn/garage.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 23, 2021, 04:14:48 AM
The "barn"
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV0baMdCK2rO6TCG-Klia22Dcy1GiDMxZYawSsJ27Z7L8mQPSokHLOZcoMcM38tPH8KpdkBvJS2nqR8E_w-PMDrdHZxm0zgrKR8O4YVu30uar9u9ePUj1GHjDb9WK35SB6ivXseuaUkEJDQK5lu0fPQuA=w1000-h716-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

It is an old AHM/Revell kit and actually has a lot of detail. But it was bigger than I thought it would be so I narrowed and shortened it.

And I ordered a sheet of laser cut shingles from Monster Model Works. I hope they look OK:
https://www.larkspurlaserart.com/product-page/ho-scale-shingle-siding-sheet-11-75-x-5-85-x-1-16
Will save a lot of time.  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: OldEastRR on July 24, 2021, 07:42:10 AM
Monster Model Works is back? In N scale?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 24, 2021, 07:54:31 AM
Monster Model Works is back? In N scale?

No they are back in full scale.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on July 24, 2021, 11:13:21 AM
Chris,

Outstanding progress all around, I especially like that the town and buildings are based on reality. You're dangerously close to becoming a prototype modeler ;)
The water wheel (and moss) are icing on the cake.

Thanks for sharing,

Lucas
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2021, 04:30:35 AM
More progress.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWYlFI2zXW9nF0G583U-7THGo8YAYYNR9i49Ji_KrKGEu1l6DcpKk1NJmLgaLLrOwelPa6eoE3xT5ARjuE7vOAIlQwPlr_FKcw6akz-vWLdpBodDMTJaUW0fyDBa-qr2RJvUlStUd-W54K1VM8pEGQwfA=w1000-h628-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWIpxnp0JsnJVIIZ4fJihADK8oeN1mXX4NyfioF6WFUfEa508SnZWyDr0xLghnzssEN1s9oh7gDHWCc7pPUyY-uZmSjCW-E5TVr4VsY9xDHRBkacgX_m180boNODoBrXX9M_11fYVBptGclL2IxSIi3Eg=w1000-h563-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on July 30, 2021, 06:47:42 AM
Fantastic work as always Chris!

You have to be one of the most active/prolific HOn30 modelers out there, that few life long HOn30 modelers know about...

If you don't mind taking the time to do so, share some of your photos with the NEHOn30 list.  I'm sure everyone would be happy to see them.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Lemosteam on July 30, 2021, 08:46:45 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWIpxnp0JsnJVIIZ4fJihADK8oeN1mXX4NyfioF6WFUfEa508SnZWyDr0xLghnzssEN1s9oh7gDHWCc7pPUyY-uZmSjCW-E5TVr4VsY9xDHRBkacgX_m180boNODoBrXX9M_11fYVBptGclL2IxSIi3Eg=w1000-h563-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Loving me that PRR station shed! :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 30, 2021, 02:13:36 PM
Loving me that PRR station shed! :trollface:

Yes the Waynesburg & Washington used the PRR design. It is all one piece printed.  :P  But I need to paint all the trim like that  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: p51 on July 30, 2021, 02:47:59 PM
That is some amazing model work. It looks like On30 instead of HOn30 for the fidelity you bring to your work. It's quite excellent!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 31, 2021, 04:48:59 AM
Guess I never got a shot of the bridge:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVFJX_mPsGqLGf_KCmE3gIyCv62d0o6aPt_v7nuh4N-qTYleeo-4Y6P9Hihg5E96-EqewS5rdlzh5SpJP4UmlH6UyFjMfog9Y0S9PcXZOtjPEzKDO_PtSQANwJf9V5FoMtUa9O4NRziJx66K9KmCd5HDA=w1000-h470-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

It is based on the W&W bridge at Buchanon. I had a good side shot of the bridge and knew from records how long it was so I just sized it to HO and traced it. The real bridge had a diving board off of it!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWLV5sA2nV7qd0gFBg_0T-4b-AC_knQ4kJxmCKfGqHI5m2USwIauQXUL_3gpR-U-1i6_T1rZvaojpLhsC3Bqk3NDG4xOQV571fAhkG8ZpX057hH5j4WznvXcxis4gn6n72aEFetW6_6xlffvmh7U6Q_dg=w1000-h524-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 31, 2021, 07:11:52 AM
Guess I never got a shot of the bridge:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVFJX_mPsGqLGf_KCmE3gIyCv62d0o6aPt_v7nuh4N-qTYleeo-4Y6P9Hihg5E96-EqewS5rdlzh5SpJP4UmlH6UyFjMfog9Y0S9PcXZOtjPEzKDO_PtSQANwJf9V5FoMtUa9O4NRziJx66K9KmCd5HDA=w1000-h470-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Chris,

Is this photo playing tricks with my eyes, or does that bridge have a sag?

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on July 31, 2021, 08:25:33 AM
Chris,

Is this photo playing tricks with my eyes, or does that bridge have a sag?

DFF

 :scared: :scared: :scared:  I see it now in the photo as well and ran down to the bat cave to put a 12" straight edge on it. Perfectly straight! Must just be the angle. The bridge has two 3/16" brass rods running through it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on July 31, 2021, 08:55:29 AM
:scared: :scared: :scared:  I see it now in the photo as well and ran down to the bat cave to put a 12" straight edge on it. Perfectly straight! Must just be the angle. The bridge has two 3/16" brass rods running through it.

Thank goodness, because it looks awesome.

Kudos,
DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on August 01, 2021, 09:25:18 AM
Chris,

Is this photo playing tricks with my eyes, or does that bridge have a sag?

DFF

It might...  I designed and 3D printed several girder bridge sections for a friend and they all warped/sagged a bit.  Luckily, heating them up with a blow dryer, flexing in the opposite direction, then running them under cold water to "set" them, fixed the warp.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2021, 12:13:11 PM
In this photo:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXgnz0-D5yl_xO1RcP72cm5h4yRArsakg3yrO8SshZDco_NzDHBeWpvHvAUmFJ5JEJ55WMY74KoxQ-lf6NVDIu6aA2lRIog9W0WCFZMkziUdANC7TQpX-6Bwe4b0fgHOmAGzo_7HSrUDdNHDivEng3Gog=w1000-h716-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
The building in the center. The top green cornice is 3D printed. It kept turning into a banana and I kept straightening it under hot water. A few days later it would be bent again. Fixed it like 3 times. So if you look close I solved that by gluing on a thin sheet off brass to the top. Now it can't bend.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2021, 05:15:34 PM
Anyone here have the Photoshop skills to turn this into something I can print out?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVKbgA7CSlrOnL8wSqkNZbeUiB75VdSD2XrGtrSDXJMnB6LBwASuO_4-Gb726b-ICTWA1M3wKA3Of14mB33FgSfus7Se_Lp0tKjR7m2zLWYmQAPA69kZR0EqwSPI_IjoafKA2kd_0FjpP4Q5hPlZDbtvw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I think it should say "look out for the cars", but here is another for ideas

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXqTwllFOn4NtsL8SG0vxlj_SUukRnLwkIoh1oSsmayDb0m-PNLX_KBiDWr1zUiLSoVzot3OjMQ7-S1hjCgDRLYfgvxCoihEzb-YPQSVleDyMeHFuE3ktoLLkug2mJgHwh1A55WEbo36-blYF6yaNbK2g=w1000-h546-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
Crap, never mind  :D   Order is in:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133254336822
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on August 01, 2021, 06:44:56 PM
already was working on it
might use it as temporary until ebay item arrives


nevermind....cannot seem to upload and attach graphic  :facepalm:
sincerely
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 01, 2021, 07:00:36 PM
Thanks Gary, there is a chance the one I bought will look too large for HOn30.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 03, 2021, 04:11:03 AM
Making headway.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWZJkuKTl0Cb_ZX3gzCR18U30S3ZIirq08gehDq7rp1n6dE0acJf5iFtRx199uBiDLnVbc78GwBBV17QZz3Fy_UKZaKhepwpLf_I7VDrxpic8wonn3JjxBP4IVBSS2XVB_jtDcD0cHRA_jKG22RhRDYJw=w1000-h712-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

The center building I just used primer to get it grey, but it kept looking powder blue to me. So I did a bunch of washes to try and make it grey. Then I did the trim in charcoal with a touch of blue. Almost smashed it into a ball and started over.  :|  The small mustard building will be some sort of place to eat so I figured a little color there wouldn't hurt. Still long way to go.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLW26714QfeJoAM6Kqh5J2AKZozmA7UrpNZv7jsuvDoHM9ZJ6izTn1sLahs_tc-6M_RTAX-6uNs1nG9hwQKmWYwQoATqb2yAwrsbzKzh8OhPUPjf4PtL4p7OOaOuFsYwroYl1tpcyYkHMpJYNj7uSdaD_Q=w1000-h637-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I'll put some corn in the field at the front left.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 06, 2021, 05:45:40 AM
So out of all the paint I have the most used color by far is Ceramcoat Mudstone. Last time I ran out had to mail order it because all the local stores were out. Now I can't find it anywhere, even online.

Anyone have a lead?  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 06, 2021, 01:14:41 PM
You mean this stuff?   :D

(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/25/1158-060821131218.jpeg)

This is my last bottle.  It is still nearly full but I hope it's not discontinued.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on August 06, 2021, 02:31:11 PM
So out of all the paint I have the most used color by far is Ceramcoat Mudstone. Last time I ran out had to mail order it because all the local stores were out. Now I can't find it anywhere, even online.

Anyone have a lead?  :scared:

You're right...  It seems to be very hard to come by, if not completely unavailable.

One link I found listed it and it does NOT show it as "sold out".

Here's the link: https://www.walltowallstencils.com/stencil/f02488/ (https://www.walltowallstencils.com/stencil/f02488/)

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 06, 2021, 03:44:40 PM
You mean this stuff?   :D

(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/25/1158-060821131218.jpeg)

This is my last bottle.  It is still nearly full but I hope it's not discontinued.

Yep that is it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 06, 2021, 04:24:09 PM
Things get real when I break out the black fascia paint  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWcpL1wHhGyYy2EFbVI04s09awxsK1QQ6KXIZMU_yb7_7eRZuAAuTEPCL77370Yw7LrhfOdsH-keA693HLLDl42ygNuh2PElw2utjYlEIamA3g2PtaKs0uWypIMhosS__fch7Z9j6wy97DWiwv73H6g9A=w1000-h334-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 06, 2021, 04:37:33 PM
And this is just a test...

Many years ago I found this photo that was listed as Chagrin Falls & Southern's first narrow gauge loco.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVwI3v5eRYkkVxpFe4KrCnQe-U08_asRlztCUscfD9z-x9EbbBvXU1wbKZ3gi2crBww9jADqPvW7LwSabLQPwXvS26TBNz636T1bEklMM5hUyQmOGd553Png_wnHJkXcBzcqKf08RTkfALqLS5X6Mumrg=w1000-h675-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

But was told that is incorrect. Their first loco was a strange looking 2-4-0
https://www.chagrinhistorical.org/discover/categories/infrastructure/railroads/pc08234.jpg

This line crossed the Erie half way between where I live and Cleveland and was later standard gauged. BUT I was told that wasn't their loco. Then a few days ago on Facebook someone posted this photo in Middlefield, OH. That is North of me and East of the railroad listed above:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWFL-OU-Pf8Ew-nA3IjOeZJ3xHKAD78ZaS7xUKqHL39Xsj5IMU_bzFyd0yi_9rBiILshtBfE4A71Jrs_5dMTuUO-ljc3350Z1MqekrKdyUZzPo7uZ3F9zIdcRRnbvpuiPeFku3KYHKul7F8qUdwyLlG9w=w1000-h696-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

They are both the same locomotive. In the background I see a trolley pole with wire. In Middlefield The B&O (ex narrow gauge) ran through Also the Cleveland and Eastern interurban line ended here. And the Chagrin Falls and Eastern interurban line ended here. The Chagrin Falls and Eastern crossed the Chagrin Falls and Southern. Both interurban lines also had steam locomotives. So I dig out a book on the C&E and find this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXB9_6YWAkxdvMR6tVkWhOAEYfG0XD7ZBLbF0v91eWgnQtXaBi9GKyJEzoVkz0zKYCnfSZUOwGRJTSNGKUpd3Hx_peSX8ehHaA7kb7h9UJj7j8siwrXxD1EQfTNSM3FJSIzUlXeOSdLwRw3PJ-T2u9IZw=w1000-h839-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Same loco with boarded up windows. It is listed has a construction train of the C&E.

So no one really knows who owned the locomotive, but I have always wanted a Bowker type locomotive in HOn30. The Athearn/MDC 2-6-0 could be used with the front driver removed, but the drivers are a tad small and too closely spaced. I 3Ded up a body just to see if it looked right.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWGBtqYt0zWctgQwA6bYekajwOGNoaTTGSLqn8OWJqYQz8P23RVU95suS6JWSHsCMp_aYd2Sx_RecL9aAnu30vwdWQritTCm65jZ0PS__Y5Cv4NCMIT1pt3yX0InIXyNy4sP4MJL17g8vCEy62r35u5QQ=w1000-h607-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

What do you think? It is wrong. I shrunk it about 10% and the drivers are out of proportion. The motor would go in the tender.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 07, 2021, 05:02:16 AM
You're right...  It seems to be very hard to come by, if not completely unavailable.

One link I found listed it and it does NOT show it as "sold out".

Here's the link: https://www.walltowallstencils.com/stencil/f02488/ (https://www.walltowallstencils.com/stencil/f02488/)

Jeff

I guess my post somehow disappeared. Anyways I sent them an E-mail asking about stock levels before I place an order.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 07, 2021, 06:19:50 PM
They had 2 bottles of Mudstone left. Bought them both along with $9 shipping  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on August 07, 2021, 09:41:33 PM
Things get real when I break out the black fascia paint  :D
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWcpL1wHhGyYy2EFbVI04s09awxsK1QQ6KXIZMU_yb7_7eRZuAAuTEPCL77370Yw7LrhfOdsH-keA693HLLDl42ygNuh2PElw2utjYlEIamA3g2PtaKs0uWypIMhosS__fch7Z9j6wy97DWiwv73H6g9A=w1000-h334-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Isn't it amazing what that does?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2021, 04:42:52 AM
Sky view
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWqpo10iUgIx4P0Q0z1_42fd9CMduwE5dWqMYBsgN41FIn2ZkfoTZSbdQrJq1GPRi225RpRvqevK15aCi653epr1ewsM_K4ZtSgps4CBRH_8Cxz1xO9mCwAJ5hh7qw872n_i65pehNDKDJgct6Zmx21EA=w1000-h690-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Guess next is adding trees and then water.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2021, 05:08:05 AM
3 minutes of jam packed action  :P  You paid for the whole seat, but you only need the edge!!!

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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on August 09, 2021, 11:43:32 AM
Guess next is adding trees and then water.


...and corn.   ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: chuck geiger on August 09, 2021, 01:14:26 PM
this is so bitchin'
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 09, 2021, 05:40:59 PM
This is the only scene that bothers me… the hook shaped hill over the track does not look right to me. I guess a tunnel portal was being avoided on purpose, but surely there is a better solution than such an unnatural shaped hill.

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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 09, 2021, 05:43:15 PM
It will all be hidden by trees and a background image of some sort.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on August 09, 2021, 06:56:14 PM
Guess next is adding trees and then water.

Loved the video. Concerning trees, I think the layout almost looks good as is, begging the question, would there be much more than scrubby new growth in your era? I'm always oddly surprised at how clear cut things were in photographs before and around the turn of the last century. And being steam era trees near the tracks are a fire hazard. I suppose replicating period photographs from the area is best but at least I'm giving you an out to avoid making too many trees  ;)

Lucas
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 13, 2021, 04:57:51 AM
Little more progress on the last 0-4-0
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXPn4Mhk44jMCXBHe0u18RNhWdiqr7NubwuSEj1dYe87VEFbf4iTnm-RdVmmt0asuSY6vVb6VYx0GYGOU2UgIA9661xr6xrRMEDiLOCGEXt_KytV5Rr5yQ38NSazbFVU6OF1p5febREaKhVTfsI9wUhJw=w1000-h479-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWFL-OU-Pf8Ew-nA3IjOeZJ3xHKAD78ZaS7xUKqHL39Xsj5IMU_bzFyd0yi_9rBiILshtBfE4A71Jrs_5dMTuUO-ljc3350Z1MqekrKdyUZzPo7uZ3F9zIdcRRnbvpuiPeFku3KYHKul7F8qUdwyLlG9w=w1000-h696-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Not diggin' my tender and might do a new 4 wheel one using a Kato SD90 truck with center wheel removed.






And no I didn't make any trees yet  :P

But I did get 2 bottles of Mudstone in the mail.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on August 13, 2021, 08:25:42 AM
Dude...  That Sonic Mini-4K is cranking out some fantastic looking prints!

Glad the source for the paint worked out.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on August 13, 2021, 03:52:49 PM
It will all be hidden by trees and a background image of some sort.

That should work. I’ll go back to my afternoon nap now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: ChristianJDavis1 on August 13, 2021, 04:02:14 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWFL-OU-Pf8Ew-nA3IjOeZJ3xHKAD78ZaS7xUKqHL39Xsj5IMU_bzFyd0yi_9rBiILshtBfE4A71Jrs_5dMTuUO-ljc3350Z1MqekrKdyUZzPo7uZ3F9zIdcRRnbvpuiPeFku3KYHKul7F8qUdwyLlG9w=w1000-h696-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Not diggin' my tender and might do a new 4 wheel one using a Kato SD90 truck with center wheel removed.

That tender looks a lot like the one Ken Kidder included with their HO "plantation" locomotives; maybe the frame from one of them could be adapted? Or would it just be easier to print one?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 13, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
For the tender I would want all wheel pick-up so at least the tender frame would be better 3D printed. I bought a Ken Kidder 2-6-0 with plans to convert it to HOn30, but it was just too big.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: OldEastRR on August 14, 2021, 12:36:55 AM
I take it there are no available mechanisms with correct wheel size. A shame for such a nifty loco,
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: ChristianJDavis1 on August 14, 2021, 07:57:39 AM
For the tender I would want all wheel pick-up so at least the tender frame would be better 3D printed. I bought a Ken Kidder 2-6-0 with plans to convert it to HOn30, but it was just too big.

The Ken Kidder is actually a model of the JGR 7100 class built by Porter and is actually 1/80. Ken Kidder imported them from Katsumi who made them for the Japanese market. I'd like to pick one up one day but they still seem to be popular.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on August 19, 2021, 04:27:01 AM
You'd think for this locomotive I could just take an HO scale AHM Bowker and narrow the wheels:
https://ho-scaletrains.com/ahm-bowker-2-4-0/
But as I found when I opened the box it is way oversize. And right after than searched and found that yes they made it oversized for that huge motor in the cab.

So do you guys think my locomotive looks funny?

I can always work on another 0-4-2 using the same chassis. I found a bunch of stuff on logging railroads in Michigan. It would look like this, but with an enclosed cab:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/qUe4thZxlMzHqvgHkVyyDyh-7q30OgT8DD6xVmU0GwhOQDNeIQ8x2JbC-NvU-7zg3kAjPUpNC8Ki3uhTGDbgwETFrfKvJToXDTd3p_fW2zxToal5kcyjbckkWTorbSc
A little fugly looking I think, but at least I could make it to scale.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on August 20, 2021, 12:20:37 AM
I think your version looks correct size wise, it would be ineresting to narrow the wheels on the 2-4-0 and see how that frame with your 3d printed body fits together, might be able to get closer to the prototype when it comes to the proportions of the wheels
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 20, 2021, 11:42:34 PM
Finding plans for small locomotive is pretty much impossible so I took time to measure and draw up my buddies Brookville. It is a 5ton BFA model that was originally built as 36" gauge. My buddy had the wheels pushed in on the axles and it is now 24" gauge. It is small in real life so the model is small as well. There is only a Ford V8 under the hood.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV6QnaOcSJ114ywvEn1yI8PNVRVuyZOTYqje5JjBFSCgibtjliE0iJ6U3fvsj5y3b1iylANtQ61M6ilfjeKaQM3kLrDGT_dyLRM2aFck3AIN5ARDcX8VrJHPb8twcfkA9Wn_P0jlr6gualnUQgzM8A9rQ=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWf8plS_DhwVXym4AFo6PpYmMJinwRVu8CYVHEP_GVY1Wee_aIVKQVh0H8BNycrGtxKE7F3olGTHhnAHcOLtCeom3fjgZasiQBukHs0Q3uY7S396s-IPD4E22HVbgcL3fodt5rlA2_HdhoWwc_br0w2-Q=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXJO4fjzqmxCk4HHpiL07MMNis85F-JBIQHeQ3ZLqU2s9bEmUqsRUDVwjyLKkYxzpcpt336h2U0itn1yinhTca8DbbhKPC4wWS6FpRkSDYtywjNevoC1hlSvFig6bpxCaEgnGfOue-Ek3VjPN3ayu1-gg=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWGxqY0j8rMfWJ2hFqLR7QD2HkI1nc6sDTi7Mlwfw_wOhcy6tdBeNxcX4ae9RMGdz4PJ2XWRMOOcC-fdSwWoqeNREK4WoiF6dMwhU7Bnvco3G9Oh0LxiJaEIxpkK8C4sFMZy8LuEmPul07UXXD-hikqQw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

It once belonged to Strasburg, but they had no plans for it. Hours after it was unloaded the thing was already tore down to the bare frame. And now it is up and running again. I believe Brookville was once a Ford dealer and some of their first locomotives were Ford trucks with rail wheels put on.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Philip H on September 21, 2021, 09:55:45 AM
Any chance you could print that in On30?   :trollface:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on September 21, 2021, 10:34:07 AM
If only we had a mole inside Brookville...
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on September 21, 2021, 12:06:40 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWGxqY0j8rMfWJ2hFqLR7QD2HkI1nc6sDTi7Mlwfw_wOhcy6tdBeNxcX4ae9RMGdz4PJ2XWRMOOcC-fdSwWoqeNREK4WoiF6dMwhU7Bnvco3G9Oh0LxiJaEIxpkK8C4sFMZy8LuEmPul07UXXD-hikqQw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

That's cool, Chris!  On another note, have you been cleaning the rails with your angle grinder again?  :trollface:

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 21, 2021, 12:07:58 PM
If only we had a mole inside Brookville...

Brookville's building flooded long ago. So if there were any plans or records they are gone.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: R L Smith on September 30, 2021, 01:42:27 PM
If only we had a mole inside Brookville...

So, I know a guy...  8)


Chris's intel is correct, a long-time employee who worked here when the flood occurred told me that he has never seen any digitized drawings of these old lokies.

Chris, if you'd be willing to print a few of those, you could sell a few of those here. Please PM me if interested...

Ron
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 02, 2021, 06:14:23 AM
Chassis for the Brookville is in the mail.


So I sort of gave up on a Bowker style locomotive I started earlier. The large spaced out drivers just don't match anything:
http://www.virginiaandtruckee.com/locomotive/no21.htm

But... I've had this photo saved forever:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUkW9H5gaCNrPm9bHN6GRDZT5fEsT98-pVjywYJ3w1jtDr7jbtjbtqb8Md-X8sYv7NBIBxEZzqkUsU4V0xqMq70OrNL_4WZu4wS-1Z8gie3Z4RvHsniuLPJyWel_ARrOyOB7HbPEcvrLTzBkNswCSE97w=w1000-h819-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And the other day on Facebook this popped up:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUFFWwdZXDn5Tfu_4wCp9BH1b89yhHtFmqLjIQ4ek99XT_WruF6Vb1WC5MYqZnMb8pBmKYq9jyq1TzVERU1aEyaVPCbrAnsBD98JzkXP7wPyh8RB_F8k3DtnIriRyUQcSTQ-XYj6vZnAgNfKg8ao4z_9Q=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

It has much smaller drivers and just looks more HOn30ish. I have drivers for it and will try to 3D print a chassis for the loco. The tender is half done to get me rolling.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 03, 2021, 04:11:39 AM
Getting feet wet.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV2j8m3ohKw_xBGaTquKRS78vSHcL3egkrxlc6ZjJgbf_WfCO3JgXdexCgP0uNZbATm4rk_LZoN3ozDdAXKXszJonUl2AyZInbirTDJ8okRE7sfgiaI2x11xXDTv1ztPx8PuRyHaha20OnqLEmix3OuZg=w1000-h599-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Has Kato wheels and behind those journals are Kato axle end pick-up cups.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Angus Shops on October 03, 2021, 12:34:09 PM
Very impressive; is there anything you can’t make? The paint work is going to be a challenge…
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 08, 2021, 05:22:52 AM
So got the Brookville running. It has this power chassis from Toma Model Works:
https://tomamw.miiduu.com/6151-nhoe009-dia60wb12mm-super-slow-drinve-unit-oso-power-0612-rtr-1

And it is a nice press fit:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXkpnWRIq8eVSlhvhY4Yb3RhClTlSdQn2JnAmySndIbIZHmAxd5lH1FC3VWi8qEUhjUd8hFFZ-1rIu04eDBuKsk66podlAK7P1I_b3Ii4fky45DMJffZFcJPT2R7hBowC7uleewu0rPmFxclpogZ-ajTg=w1000-h677-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Running laps:

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 08, 2021, 04:54:04 PM
And the Pioneer 2-4-0 shown above. Got the first try of a locomotive frame printed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXKnYqmel9CsVXWqdTy891ROOd7uR27Lhz8m1xEpxSv8W-0FJIUCRO3pjf-g47CUvR3-J7uzEc1S2_b0PQ-0y52CoNZcuHZ-clWvzJOCVdC5P3KmO11lqB3oajFllc5QkCzKvgC34sTSsuMImyNDWCbeQ=w1000-h740-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Wheelbase compared to my last try  :|
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWOB0cNmj7VRDb7CyiRYFjfHgJTWuwer--LG8QEnvYCLbvr1xfbS7UKdfh_FwH4Oq1dqUVaJLn3YTht_pRzkHAtqowlasJ4wLl8yo6C0LdKSFTz8abezeimm6Ht0SMnjVDUEC1JgI7sX0pVN6XjwcchIA=w1000-h593-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on October 09, 2021, 11:04:32 AM
Hmm, very interesting. A two-worm drive with stacked gears on the shafts?
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 10, 2021, 04:22:04 AM
Hmm, very interesting. A two-worm drive with stacked gears on the shafts?
Otto

Yep a lay shaft and 2 spur gears up to the motor.

Her is my first try at the body. The primer wasn't a full coat and the photo is bad, but hey it fits on the first print!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUeHA2Lbb2BbC3R5xG4WD0cCASAwUAhZM0aIUy2TrcnjHxJlXZGnm--5vTzB83Zmjpj9JCNF4F2pR5LCMnAXmqYnjDbMjnA5zknCsxgTrqer3xW0JNr-2YGsnozsOh4dAnRET9C0SRoGfYv1oOsFehHyg=w1000-h726-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 13, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
Jumping around with so many projects going at once.

I got the Davenport body adjusted so the Toma power chassis will fit right in. Two long screws with washers fit into notches on the chassis, then go through the couplers and into the body.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtDa0CNcvT75IsOHJFWSQ3QWHnePf6DqOA7grL_uAYMLXK23n7a9WDKhhLGh9dgl1SxqrgxAh0AXoO9aILatUq89CpsnevIBoD3ob8lnd0FCMSwQZOSiPZ_4c3gkPvzii7F_nAnU7pptJZNZqC4kgG_w=w1000-h492-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWMpqK3_Dth6BGMmNi5fi-tRE-aPEbSyYgUIYoo9ILSdkUXCHlup8-M5zPyFWt6MM-N9Q1TRdsSfEnyrpasudDAMV7GXHPY9js96YqBdjiBwM8ePBUtKoa7KtDv5QkoBpC8q_qcYWeyA43L4ES53Khwkg=w1000-h683-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Cranks are just sitting loose for now:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXJxjYZU_Eywz044GGffhseQN4jppYI723BKULTo4M3I0Ee8gx7tl34_KDN5jHxQzq_YIyzjQ7Vn8QgeG0TzAvZ31sRGi3NWXz75iGK43Yam8JzUYBFWKovQ9WMRRNL6yIcYgJIMpRjbxq8qaujAc8mvw=w1000-h518-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on October 13, 2021, 11:23:25 PM
are the outside frame counter weights also 3D printed?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 14, 2021, 12:09:17 AM
are the outside frame counter weights also 3D printed?

Yep. They just press into the wheel centers. I gotta figure out a side rod and get some pins to mount it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on October 14, 2021, 10:31:20 AM
That's pretty darn sweet Chris!

The whole thing printed really nice and the counterweights are pretty slick.

I could probably help you out with some rods.  I can laser cut some in 0.020" steel and ream the crankpin holes to the size you need.  PM me with the wheelbase and crankpin hole size.  I'll cut and process them and send them out to you ASAP. 

Can't wait to see it running!

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on October 14, 2021, 10:57:47 AM
Any idea how those side rods are clocked on each side?

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 14, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
Any idea how those side rods are clocked on each side?

DFF

They are clocked like Flavor Flav is clocked  :lol:     I imagine they are 90 degrees like a steam locomotive, but you can't see both sides at one time. As for the model both wheels are driven so the side rods will just be along for the ride. It won't be super critical that they are perfect.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on October 14, 2021, 03:12:44 PM
They are clocked like Flavor Flav is clocked  :lol:     I imagine they are 90 degrees like a steam locomotive, but you can't see both sides at one time. As for the model both wheels are driven so the side rods will just be along for the ride. It won't be super critical that they are perfect.

I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't quartered.

The reason steam engines are is to keep the actual engines working (ie, neither is at top dead center at any time) since the rods are connected to the valve gear.

With a diesel that's just using rods to transfer motor created power at low speeds, I don't think that same thing is needed.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on October 14, 2021, 03:26:57 PM
Any idea how those side rods are clocked on each side?

DFF


...four degrees before top-dead-center.   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 14, 2021, 05:43:08 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't quartered.

The reason steam engines are is to keep the actual engines working (ie, neither is at top dead center at any time) since the rods are connected to the valve gear.

With a diesel that's just using rods to transfer motor created power at low speeds, I don't think that same thing is needed.

Assuming that only one of the wheelsets is powered by the Diesel motor (because if both wheelsets were powered there would ne no need for siderods), and the siderods drive the other axle, then the forces involved would be the same as for a steam loco.  90 deg.  apart.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dnhouston on October 14, 2021, 06:22:43 PM

...four degrees before top-dead-center.   :D

Love that movie  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on October 14, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
Love that movie  :D

Yesss. I can't tell you how many times I watched it or pieces of it or how many laughs I got out of it. And my biological clock is ticking, too, as it is for us all😜
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Hawghead on October 14, 2021, 10:42:14 PM
Yesss. I can't tell you how many times I watched it or pieces of it or how many laughs I got out of it. And my biological clock is ticking, too, as it is for us all😜
Otto

But the '57 Chevy didn't come with a 327 and four barrel carb.

Scott
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: johnb on October 15, 2021, 04:06:32 AM
But the '57 Chevy didn't come with a 327 and four barrel carb.

Scott
they had a 283 and an oil filter was an option
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 15, 2021, 05:19:58 AM
Test run filmed in Potatovision (TM).

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on October 15, 2021, 08:04:15 AM
Assuming that only one of the wheelsets is powered by the Diesel motor (because if both wheelsets were powered there would ne no need for siderods), and the siderods drive the other axle, then the forces involved would be the same as for a steam loco.  90 deg.  apart.

Yes, they're quartered/90° apart just like steam locomotives.  I have photos of both sides of the same loco (Davenport coincidentally) and they're 90° apart side to side. 

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on October 15, 2021, 08:06:14 AM
Test run filmed in Potatovision (TM).


"Potatovision"...  LOL!   :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 15, 2021, 02:22:50 PM
The video description:
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HOn30 3D printed 10 ton Davenport using a Toma Model Works chassis with 14mm wheelbase and 7mm dia. wheels.

The first comment:
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Awesome job what Drive did you use underneath of the Davenport?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 15, 2021, 04:04:09 PM
LOL!  But I also sometimes have problems with reading comprehension.  So, what kind of drive did you use under that loco?  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 15, 2021, 04:11:00 PM
It is like when I'm in the drive-thru and say "I'd like a #1 with a Coke". OK and what would you like to drink with that.  :RUEffinKiddingMe:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 15, 2021, 04:18:24 PM
It is like when I'm in the drive-thru and say "I'd like a #1 with a Coke". OK and what would you like to drink with that.  :RUEffinKiddingMe:

Exactly!  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on October 15, 2021, 04:22:14 PM
The video description:
The first comment:

Depending on the platform, the descriptions aren't always visible or obvious.

Most of my Youtube viewing is done on my TV, and I don't think there's even a way to see more than the title there. But of course, I also can't post comments either. So who knows.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 15, 2021, 04:30:46 PM
Depending on the platform, the descriptions aren't always visible or obvious.

Most of my Youtube viewing is done on my TV, and I don't think there's even a way to see more than the title there. But of course, I also can't post comments either. So who knows.

So you admit there are shortcomings to "mobile platforms"  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on October 15, 2021, 04:32:29 PM
So you admit there are shortcomings to "mobile platforms"  :P

Tons of em.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Mike C on October 15, 2021, 06:25:43 PM
   Nice runner Chris !
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: glakedylan on October 15, 2021, 06:57:27 PM
looking and running great, Chris...
you certainly have a knack for working with small things
your designing and printing too are marvelous.
thanks for sharing!

sincerely,
Gary
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 26, 2021, 03:52:51 AM
Doesn't look like much, but this is the chassis for my railbus. There are 2 1/16" tungsten rods glued into slots of the 3D printed chassis. All they do is keep the frame straight since there will be a shaft running through it. Used capillary tubing where the lay shaft goes through the resin as a bearing.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVDZaUdvfnG_EZ-qPum2qYbmAIFbOl_KcdHYDNh2pyQ6IwgrwkkdXUEsnYA8eqGHjRD7BopAsWKIdotRmfs5MVTq9vSnZG1Qh5Fip2HeoeWEsFQhywH0awkbeAT0xwGEHmEpCDQkxaXsYT4mgbcfNYzHw=w1000-h467-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And this is the motor sitting there. It is from a Bachmann HOn30 Rusty (Thomas).
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWBNkTZhS1OeseEpSof6G3Ly_a8ETdI66bhOEsBNOTZhx9kLYXTRnX5anRh5pcHwkQoLF1c_otXzl8HUZOFOeJsatfZJ-8ZMMPxR7wvcAhSwS_XjG2qULhUsUBwpUjQFO3WzxjlVMYhhOM895sxJPaqsQ=w1000-h454-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUtRmzlYbunrOlxTvYGqzWuV1hsu8JvvDr7hviPwP_P5pO3WNGPiZDJh5FmgmA1ETP8l2dvKij1VXIDiQ6zcqGpZ0Ob29qOKZq6IQoFtaOu4bEt1oEtN9lbOdeEl9H0ScZ_0Pibjs7CnqecHS2orywATQ=w1000-h417-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVWyx02XiLVef1wnr807FwDcr2tpRkgJ8Z0UBEjneHS_AJaQKIr38lwFCO01B0omvk2R9cB-Ul_6uWVzUMO46S_uHH8x2TlYBA_Qpt8jvVwHLzvgrFDloRWIO5iqARqNGFW4yc0SoMsvO9tDZaSugyzdw=w1000-h477-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

It only ends up being a 43:1 gear ratio so if it runs too fast I will have to add another stage of spur gears. Plenty of room for that.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 27, 2021, 05:23:54 AM
Another day another dollar...

The 1889 Porter catalog calls this a "Light Back Truck Locomotive".
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXdyfpEuP5YFUr8XiXp4wpFIDuhMjdpIFTy2z1zxmsDpFvhdFFMpxSOgPUJkyFQmcDmzXic4VxFkWMOpzhugC6wIHu-j83pGiDrQ8wW2tIAZUyx3LuMg0R8Ts9uXIiP-57aRwtOu2GSiX2UKWc_DnGpSQ=w1000-h881-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV9PhsIFYDtrHhpSGx3zisn93U3KRu154t4qo1HNBex0LtaW4mxUfsgMZx7cspsj6uuuo6fgxxyMPqHqgDqw3w_DHlddgsZbMfkwh-m0wD6PEfO9sEn3nWNE5RAm1i91pHXqpODFqU7sSI5EkffFP8udg=w1000-h807-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWuGYamck_sDYW6oNNHTLt1y7VDfnCA8USXZLLc_UqlzegH-FuSraQW49I_1cox7JY3DWfiBurLnJ-ITqGJYFpUHUC_3onHcgxOUiGEQgmYTTrza402L7Fi_UqZQ8dJ9tQZeQRutpd5K7QQyW78axJYiA=w1000-h308-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU2pz1AqPyh7GFfqqWhZgvNbdhVvSFQF_Lf1ppyfCVQz3TrlpUKx6NanWvMfSR8t2ZYUeUT5UbouGBEI1a6c9cciuYsYIdBb783gGVpjvzv13_QqDOM6U5MTX_6qlEVdF3MWFgR7UF41Qb1-x1tdZ7V1w=w1000-h926-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on October 27, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
Clever drive design for the rail bus...the new small motors make something like this possible. Nice work Chris!
Love the Porter kettle, too.
Otto
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 28, 2021, 02:46:10 AM
Bouncing back to the Davenports. Since they are in 3D I reversed the pilots and made a paint mask.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUG_Lf-sj2SrNn0URGIV0DYRxjDHmd0u6ax26by8HzPprIa7S5TaUAHSPalDoJFuRL-mDC-QyAnBsuglwHkobgZDoGedeSK9KSadTyJ_2QhnSCZg24JAYdgv2GmqmulLtPyOMNLFa2pesPvbtW5wTVcJg=w1000-h477-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
At first I thought it was a fail using a spray can on the right, but using and air brush on the left worked great.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUi5yyQmaGg2aw9z_QUGKREBglfV0JXrOKrb_6hstQd-a-1ZvnpaKlUBo7jI78WyH2a4MKpkZ2CR-b4KUTkQ4go5EpaxPRdCh2IuZletU-yKO3XWMIlNeuIQJtU0fAS24iuqJuXA-Bw3JzmOZPjxw0tPA=w1000-h621-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I'm going for this look that was used at Carbon Limestone
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU4KVprR9gwKiSAhe9wWk5egiUTMNkxr7-doLcvzvr7_mBweIUGVl-nFxQ-K5t2KHLICmCUiY01mTtHsKvPgTh3Cp3ogEowk3P6Ng3Eny3BHrb6Enes6yE3glRI0OGdPpN_JYGKhX9T2o4TGnIBRwxRlA=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 28, 2021, 05:54:34 AM
Chris,
I have been (usually silently) following your layout construction threads for years.  But probably a third or a  half of the posts in your layout construction articles is devoted to your wonderful scratchbuilt locos and rolling stock.

Could I suggest that you use the "Weathering, Detailing, and Scratchbuilding" section, and even create separate threads for each model to document construction of all those little gems which are currently buried in your layout threads?  It would also make it much  easier to find them in the future.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 28, 2021, 04:50:55 PM
Maybe just re-name this thread "What I do when I do stuff"  :D
Title: Chris does what he does when and where he wants to do it
Post by: Dave V on October 28, 2021, 06:27:30 PM
Maybe just re-name this thread "What I do when I do stuff"  :D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8Knvl_acVzR6A0GiDBWliCua0j27HqrVxf7_LiQOai2GFBs85jq60_J5h_KB7P2nRqDSMCU7-ztHDfe4Njdv9DyMe0u7rFlxmGOOQ4vhnatBjgCrMkptziwTOzAfuCFmeKcE6mZM-w)

 :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 28, 2021, 06:56:15 PM
Maybe just re-name this thread "What I do when I do stuff"  :D

Well then, it would be a wrong fit for this section of TRW!   :trollface:

Just bustin' your you-know-what's Chris.
I do like to get things organized, which make them easy to find (well, except for my workbench).  I guess I'll have to look elsewhere.  ;)  Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 28, 2021, 07:36:42 PM
I just think not many here are interested in narrow gauge, and those who are might not care about HOn30, and those that do might not care about a paint mask.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dnhouston on October 28, 2021, 11:40:23 PM
Chris,
One of the main reasons I ALWAYS read this thread is because I never know what you are going to be posting next, I just know it is going to be something REALLY cool.  I don't care if its HOn30, narrow gauge, paint masks, scenery, buildings, or what not.  They are all examples of creative modeling and creative modeling solutions.  I am completely in awe of your 3D printing skills and how quickly you turn around these various projects.  Just keep things coming, whatever they may be, and I, at least, will be checking the thread to see what you've done next  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on October 28, 2021, 11:40:52 PM
I just think not many here are interested in narrow gauge, and those who are might not care about HOn30, and those that do might not care about a paint mask.


True, true.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Missaberoad on October 28, 2021, 11:42:47 PM
Maybe just re-name this thread "What I do when I do stuff"  :D

This... Keep doing the stuff which you do!  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Philip H on October 29, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
Don't listen to @peteski - Rule 1 applies in all cases.  And frankly I agree with @dnhouston - your various threads are a wealth of really cool shiznit.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on October 29, 2021, 10:55:46 AM
Maybe just re-name this thread "What I do when I do stuff"  :D

Or, “I did a thing.”   :D

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 29, 2021, 12:05:31 PM
Don't listen to @peteski - Rule 1 applies in all cases.  And frankly I agree with @dnhouston - your various threads are a wealth of really cool shiznit.

It was merely a suggestion guys - geez!  Ease up!  :facepalm: :RUEffinKiddingMe:

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Missaberoad on October 29, 2021, 01:22:38 PM
It was merely a suggestion guys - geez!  Ease up!  :facepalm: :RUEffinKiddingMe:

I mean this with all kindness, but you go a little over board with your suggestions that things should be organized different...

Quote
geez!  Ease up!

Perhaps you could heed your own advice... but like I said I mean that in the nicest way possible...

Now back to more random 3d printed critters!  :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on October 29, 2021, 02:15:59 PM
It was merely a suggestion guys - geez!  Ease up!  :facepalm: :RUEffinKiddingMe:

It's not required that TRW members immediately implement any and all suggestions from other members.  Sometimes ya gotta learn to take "no thank you" as an answer.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: peteski on October 29, 2021, 02:26:32 PM
It's not required that TRW members immediately implement any and all suggestions from other members.  Sometimes ya gotta learn to take "no thank you" as an answer.

I don't get this. I made one suggestion, and only one. Not a demand -- a suggestion. I even explained  my reasoning. I also gladly took "no thanks" for the answer.  I immediately got attacked by bunch of people, and now I'm even told that I didn't take a "no" for an answer?  What are you guys smoking?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CNR5529 on October 29, 2021, 03:22:17 PM
I don't get this. I made one suggestion, and only one.

Can someone pull the stats on how many times this one suggestion was given to various threads throughout TRW history?   :D

Also, just ribbing you Pete, it honestly doesn't bother me one way on another... like moving The Canadian thread from the N scale board to the product discussion board  ;)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 29, 2021, 04:11:49 PM
Well Pete is right, but I just figured nobody wants to see a bunch of HOn30 posts all over the place. Plus we all know I can go months without any progress. I even joke a little about jumping all over the place.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on October 29, 2021, 04:17:32 PM
Some people compartmentalize their modeling more than others, but if everything was neatly in its place, what would those whose love to post their “don’t you know how to use the search tool?” posts do for fun?  :trollface: :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 29, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Now you can change the chatter to tell me how fugly these colors look.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLW7mGKS8jOpP1q-Z6u7zlvnIhiy4xPAgm99YB-BFMQMdicNgRF9g3zul_OYOL85FK6KEzc0rPEYHcSPJ80fIcqOYQFjYbPhkPWsEHDfiDwADvP9_PeT04HROwEV0W_XdquAGIdNrpSirMt2wdmdl0IkVQ=w1000-h465-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUC6hKuRuY7782__Z0xio4o_Ua0EhpR9XTXE1ITeJpSQ2wFDUjheHPl7Bdwpwx6p1i9IKrlr_gg1tIvzN1-n2c81InwNFqoFeJx1Hfx4ZxZwckwBa0CtZhMmHe_Vj6uEXnOvOEmhzAOIe8jJzoOStQksw=w1000-h623-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I didn't want to just paint them yellow. I guess later I can print more bodies and swap them out. Maybe red.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUiFw7wNdAy79dKTm4oXKj_UUzumlQT_U_uRZc2nmTUCyGpzbyltUDZBRkyqgYUf8JINJ94-TUz-M1wodzL8CuwkdwyXoVFr5cms7VYUKip12kKsiKPiwCKKNqXz56WrXHPVICD0KXPmxLlVM4JJVCsYQ=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: nickelplate759 on October 29, 2021, 05:30:40 PM
Are you doing link & pin couplers?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 29, 2021, 05:59:45 PM
Not on this one. The slot fits a 1015 coupler.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXPrVgiOXWreTENN5L_D1TgLTS0-APARsDk2ldFRoIS4j4DR5it431Ky5W6ZPKp1IF-HB8BErwdjtKFSDCd2MeFh79v-r2nixRlD6vvMvigoe-cVVQRuK7fL-siYx73ARPwGu8CFv1VtTMoDpJC2TBl7w=w1000-h514-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on October 29, 2021, 06:52:13 PM
Your grey looks a tiny bit "warm" compared to the proto.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Dave V on October 29, 2021, 07:55:51 PM
Your grey looks a tiny bit "warm" compared to the proto.

Ya, agree.  It’s possible the prototype photo is faded, but a pass with a thinned white over your gray might work to match.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: milw12 on October 29, 2021, 09:19:06 PM
It's not a typical color and I dig it. As long as the model matches the proto that's all that matters right? 8)

Lucas
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Missaberoad on October 29, 2021, 10:56:41 PM
Digging the two rerail frogs hanging on the pilot.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on October 29, 2021, 11:15:33 PM
Looking at the cab front on the Prototype, I think the model’s color might be a little too much on the teal side and needs some Olive Drab.
A really good fade or Limestone wash may change everything.
Great job though Chris.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on October 30, 2021, 03:43:12 AM
About 4 or more years ago I custom mixed the paint and back then did a test on a spare N scale MDT
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU-5RnSJv7Uq5CEzYsvKzzKTVHbnTd5mMQQu9Nf4-vrTTOxxjIBWztoIw86pioh4WQIuMxKPMM8dKftBJR87z-aoNrQpDGBt2cjtubtBnF1dB4k122jvxwprn1QvvoH504c7w9VnZ3ydLrw2sI-yCKwfA=w1000-h939-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And I did use that paint to test these Davenports on the left:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXq0dtLaM8lx433H79XVavEyYfrAMrMOHb7OouUprMjimdOT7T5Xxv52Z2YLrj05aEfJzOueJE6wUcGqUlSWWGEmSl76rXrQqI7dLw_-KKUhXQXuRhQ9WHvwl5O0INs7K4Z-AdVHAHIDxbCzDrfVzyDbg=w1000-h621-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
But it was just craft store paint and you can see it peeled away from the masking tape. So I went off to Hobby Lobby to get new paint, but found out they now only sell those tiny Testors glass bottles.

So... I took some green looking self etching primer in a can and strayed it into a jar. Mixed it with some grey primer and did add a little bit of light blue. Guess the mix isn't dead on.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUu-3lLwLbzJZiZ4tCjZHq4l5tOa1FpRr0CpudM1Qm9KHNz7gWFr9tRuHJfGafAYnoQBzOJ-xQCzyLTnn1buY5wkVCznsPqM_g2yF2dz5OIN9nT2WVnoEbzSnVW-7CCPKKfVcWOt3K76_P-QyR_hr1lNA=w1000-h643-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVFYeWA7YbfzIDLGv8wrHzrTyUpIBOcbPnWVuUH6IWUAhNRVXmvHHDMzR729-bMAHf1AGmG4pjasEssT27AdhqN4UTt09Hz4A4SQ0jTueVcWgEwXxXRQ_CDfsgVwa0e1oqU77RDgzkpeWhhBGtvYRy7Ig=w1000-h693-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU4KVprR9gwKiSAhe9wWk5egiUTMNkxr7-doLcvzvr7_mBweIUGVl-nFxQ-K5t2KHLICmCUiY01mTtHsKvPgTh3Cp3ogEowk3P6Ng3Eny3BHrb6Enes6yE3glRI0OGdPpN_JYGKhX9T2o4TGnIBRwxRlA=w1374-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUe8jGSsDFJJHI2nvz_68ck61EAMsjDyef-uqEDifuyYd0xdwOUcm0kr42Oj8HprEFNd8E3cApOErXeDrFGSgLr9H08ut4pS_cM_9OWKjmJoZ6peaiCN9vpOPyiP87wFy5orRG1f7QKGZz8pgJYdFQnTQ=w1000-h878-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Final exhibit. A group with a real Plymouth from them stripped down and found the original paint. I actually have the PPG number they used:
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Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on November 03, 2021, 12:20:00 PM
I was just thinking about the possibility of printing a paint mask, then I get on your thread and you did it!  it's cool to see it works.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 05, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
Thought I wasn't when I was  :) 
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLX6hpWJxfgpuEJex1VfR6KySYsZeNfEYh2jXvWtR3fMC6SsSEzIFjwLgLes5aRyQzlO7FsyO5aflM0M8p25FFj2Akvk4z7-lnGw3lMKif2IyEJKA3h1jrdu4Mx2WGJ6Ky7wKlODZNxZw0l4kcxQywPHsQ=w1000-h837-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUZGHQHUUd9A9bqLk4CWzUufhwHeEBJ-qrwVAwZvix-4dqBkljwGdjsPRo7OsNnIxPbY0P__nXc9nlBCeYzWMUnpcEQ6x45EDq21EsnnK5mfwblHAVSrxEP7enNcpC69vdbhFveC_6rY5O-D9j_nr8tlA=w1000-h909-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVNRhdMiC2ofDSJNbyKM6WNkyHMPgsNQmVlNguOLvVFmgP1jooMuTYL-2yZRnA3YSw3kcHToO0dW8o4kWkwm5WGqaf7C9FfHdlsW4TP_skXydQLAPtZBR3G7Wt0s-Fkgti_-3K3zqkTiX9P42Mg92Qg4w=w1000-h888-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUHpbozgoNjiNf8adhAXC80ofon6sgE2s_DYxPOR8skzEtYfOUzcCvm447i-QGoYHqmkv929A2B45y8EOfp8XxCk8FLd1e7FgM6hXF8LwWyLuDUkqGsGFpRE4D36HwXR57p6HXudYZ23r_UzdLkE36zcg=w1000-h691-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on November 05, 2021, 06:44:51 PM
Fantastic model Chris!

A narrow gauge Davenport in HOn30 no less... 

Great work as always.

JB
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on November 05, 2021, 07:01:37 PM
 :o. Wow!  That looks really nice.  Video showing off the moving side rods, please.

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 05, 2021, 10:53:20 PM
I'll get a video up. The paint is still wet in the photos. And those side rods are Jeff's laser cut masterpieces.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 07, 2021, 04:15:50 PM
So the 3D printing rabbit hole. I should have been happy to finally have a finished Davenport, but I wanted to paint the inside of the cab seafoam green. It would have been a pain to try and get a brush up inside there because with the frame it is shaped like a T. So I chopped up the 3D model into two pieces. Now I have a frame plate and a hood/cab.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVrmXUoS3qrbsQEd95zpmzoOvdIN-oNHxNMuVS2R-wYYHoSp1tkw7jMg-k8za5DBBNxKvI2uTmzDKIkYw7V-v9h3l-AoYQKxDlmkjSXtaTqXXGXtYsDRqfDQb65NIMUEZ1xU8O3xgTgvpzpVgsbXkF8KA=w1000-h465-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I have probably printed this locomotive 20 times now. First was just to see if it would work. Then I changed a few things to get it perfect. Then I got the Toma chassis in hand and made a few changes to better fit the chassis like a glove. Then I printed a few just to practice painting on. Luckily these prints are less than a dollars worth of resin.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on November 08, 2021, 06:48:27 AM
Such a "professional" looking model!

The Toma chassis is really nice...  It's pretty incredible how small manufactures have enabled us in narrow gauges to build things that 15yrs ago were unheard of unless you were a master model maker and had access to all kinds of tools and manufacturing processes.

Nothing wrong with doing something 20 times...  Each iteration gets better, though the improvements tend to become very small changes toward the end and somewhere in the middle you are at the point that 99.5% of the people looking at it, can't tell the difference between it and the last version!

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 08, 2021, 04:34:12 PM
Well things were going backwards, but are now going forward. The frame wants to sag in the center with no body on top of it. I revised the frame 2 and printed it 3 times now.

The cab/hood wants to spread apart at the bottom now without the frame to hold it. So I keep adding bracing to keep it all together while it cures. Braces they will later be cut out. I have revised the cab/hood 5 times now and printing #6 right now.

I now have 2 screws that go up through the frame into the cab to hopefully keep it all straight.

The upside is these are smaller parts that print quicker.

I could just paint the cab interior of the red Davenport, but figuring out crap like this makes designing future stuff much quicker.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on November 09, 2021, 07:24:46 AM
That happens (going backwards instead of forward)...  Almost always when you're reconfiguring how you do things.

My printing experience is nowhere near yours, but I include a lot of sacrificial bracing in some of my 3D prints (cab, hood, boiler, etc...).  Sometimes to the detriment of the surface finish (we've discussed this privately). 

If you recall your Toma Monson Forney kit...  Toma, or whomever he uses to do his 3D modeling/printing, uses a different way to support his prints.  Instead of tiny supports, he uses rectangular sections, though very thin so the parts snap off easy.  I've been meaning to try this, because it might be a good technique for adding supports that don't cause ripples in the surface of the parts.

Anyway...  Got off topic there a bit.

Worst case, go back to printing the cab/hood attached to the body...  You know it works, so there's a good fallback.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 11, 2021, 04:33:29 PM
I think I'm ready to paint the new 2 piece body now.

Question: Should I add some white to the red to tone it down and make it look faded?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWvL2b_7X5vdiro5Sk9Pbpf-k5bdzZQcWFcdgV6Fw4bPJzQkET6VF19na95i7aDdtOMx7ZRtRtP_pfW-r3UhsTahBRidldTaohbjqKySpwkZxuDh7YTq_koXGC64ZKrGoPMc_igmZFr-wSprAnASpeU4Q=w1000-h837-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Theme music:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Ed Kapuscinski on November 11, 2021, 04:44:17 PM
I think it looks spot on as is. Maybe add some highlights like worn paint on the door handles, etc... to brighten it up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on November 11, 2021, 04:58:04 PM
I think I'm ready to paint the new 2 piece body now.

Question: Should I add some white to the red to tone it down and make it look faded?


I wouldn't add white to the paint mix.  I think it would start to look pink. 
I would just add thinned washes, wait until they dry, and repeat until satisfied.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Cajonpassfan on November 11, 2021, 08:25:16 PM
What he said. I like the red, it's a nice red: who wants pink trains...
A touch of weathering and your all set. Nice job btw.
Otto K.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: CRL on November 11, 2021, 11:27:19 PM
I’d use some weathering chalk on it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 12, 2021, 02:19:45 AM
OK here is the "new" body next to the old body.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUEpf0R8dC-94P4h8XLfJyAnlggjHEyTwQ8HYy5unaf2UFHs1mZsMYGq9ySZGWs_cZhXF6IqSesoCRKG6uzLaZDsqoxfaAlqmWDN06MgCmimRGpFOaAyF00gAUmmI4sSKawsbEIM8bDtQfIvYqjAMsjHg=w1000-h416-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And the chassis I bought years ago to make this exact locomotive next to the new chassis.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVINJ_7K7aw-WGNm1m3pFQgh4_GpGsAYKYh8QSbdS9LE-M74nHKjwdQQN_gJiplFb5KiYCph3TGtD_Bii-4VMDOFHNIHVf-6vEk7Fmh4cj83798dnJUa1uqjRAbBGyEmUoSebhDmc4rhCJCV-5Hff01cQ=w1000-h502-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And in between making mods to the new body I cranked out a HOn30 copy of the Bachmann On30 18' boxcar.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWaW1HdMU2LGSHuhxQa4XyOY8yIOUTxPs73OVAt-bwOCRBjOBOl47skqnY_TpDTS5KF0C8b52f9cFA-jRZmtnzKXls62RAIXjVcU13QzKLmWF_Fvy1kPblFtghcRiY3v-5YWBxVJTaAIlPrt0-s4JYYkg=w1000-h623-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on November 17, 2021, 03:16:48 PM
i am glad you show images of your prints with the supports on so I can see that you are supporting your models like I support mine.  sometimes I wonder if I am OCD about my supports, but after I see yours I feel better, unless maybe we are both OCD.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 17, 2021, 04:54:17 PM
I have learned over time what will come out of the printer. I have a bunch of inner supports inside the cab side walls to keep it from distorting around the windows.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on November 18, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
OK here is the new 2 piece body on the left. I gave it a few dirt  and white colored washes. Since I was able to now paint the cab interior I added a figure and a few little things so it looks like there is something in there. Also got windows installed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVXkqxBIBk3YTGBWlLGOOIQPHX09e0UajLMnaE46NLOU1ofKAa5IXDi8kY2nDZWiwBilibDAcga-bE8PPhLfqzU6xpOrdXB6E1cj2gH8WnnjkIuXxzdcI0XYrJGNB1Zuof6WQw42CCbJTAa39Fvbc7mTQ=w1000-h456-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

And here are those side rods spinning!  :lol:  (video might take a bit to get full res)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on November 18, 2021, 08:35:04 AM
Yay!  Spinny things!  Looks great.

Kudos,
DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: garethashenden on November 18, 2021, 02:16:16 PM
I love side rod diesels. There's something about them that's charming
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on November 19, 2021, 09:37:27 AM
I love side rod diesels. There's something about them that's charming

I agree...  They're almost "honorary" steam locomotives.

JB
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 20, 2022, 05:01:50 PM
This thread was way back on page 3  :|  Been sort of busy at work. Last year at this time we had 8 people in our dept. Right now we only have 3. My old boss quit to start his own business. 3 people just quit to get better jobs and one guy had a stroke after his heart attack and triple bypass. So he is no longer an employee. Still time to model just not really post. With just 3 of us when one takes time off the other 2 need to work 7 days a week. Ends up being 12-13 days in a row. All 3 left are salary so no overtime, just owed days off. One guy will use 5 days on vacation and the other two will be owed 2 days each so it ends up only getting rid of 1 day between us all. I'm still owed 2 weeks from last year. They are looking to hire people, but no luck so far.

Anyways what all did I do? Made this little railbus that was used by a 2' line in Japan:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU0nM3IZl7eCBHiCindEA24yDgy28AcoEhpLXX1UMIi-Du1Ih0oxcBB-_9vzu_5zD72OpA7e_tGWXfLo7mLAXHZPTTBqokErSALtFqWjY_hF8j73QG9OR60yRWXPPPHzTBwzGXYV8G0AaOvoMb67kuU1Q=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5253756
You may notice my N scale boxcab chassis under it. Hey it looks right and it was already drawn up.

Did these D&RGW flatcars.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWOuRrZa1ExsvEtUN6XS4HszalKSuw691PJ4bRloMxuyNh6OwHX37YBMmw1pFX2xvrBmMM7qxt2BraMrIGKOGhyFm5XNvmhM8sO1TGwKT5HvZiUOZZy8sgBj-d9BowqQViKRsf9iwTr6stPEgactoKzpQ=w1000-h500-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5258308

Did another 0-4-0 based on a Bachmann Percy chassis. Found this photo working on a reservoir in MA.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXCbqXc9VPyovNao9Po4Ovn0IMAK9Ln9O7m8-Cv09tghTMOZVBM-PTLKn99MDmvV2kHOXnBFpQyHIcKDUS8F_xV-c4-bsduW4dsxYBbH3Enuoj8Vaf-01Xzfftv9r3w__BWQYfakKmvHWmr-10YZgCV8A=w1000-h652-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWkKxiIpC0CuNE8nO6byxMQuf7_epYanfty3JRjT0J65PREiqJV70yfNWapQVjviNxtJ52Loli433Xb1B9P2mwlRWSTV8_2Zk3NnFeK_OsSF9D3Z0VEbD0Rbvy_kTCFrpWw0yCgCtJ3CIAADKdOUOiuPQ=w1000-h702-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLX0lP2PoBbdWgOj1G2cECYciyYaSyyTHqib9niJlLg7Pq4LboE4Mpmz5rzNu7rXrmvJl5rCJIvdOMF55w-L8IBCkZGyvo3G1DJy6Wiz_lqOntd7UGx0mGu8F_W0CqlgkbaqoL2Emj7JWcd9rbmcJ2LcOA=w1000-h592-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Did a D&SP waycar, but shorted it a little for HOn30
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWArDZONGMMk3PMa59x9ENu3CT_9-iArhWVeIfEeB-0yDNLwVbMq6eSq6odOhGbd4qq7f6kpEQsKOkSMrV58--iJLh9wTZIH9cfFF0Me_BgsidnsUa0NhDAthwKoYCZ-R3y488OzC9AEnxVtipK_6WsKg=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUok6nGWKDyt_Fhl6UTpWB9W6FmJ_2TM22CHwf_ZG_sMvMzSpBd-nYT2Ct_mvYmAZCqxuoHIiN0usYVx7j7w1oLNwziL5NLzPJO9YCyNmU4a1BDpXm9FLCyF34cXw8Kd4XR-GivQn6aBiphm4wRc_3oJw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5317985

What shiny object will I find next?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 20, 2022, 05:05:07 PM
Oh and I bought a bunch of Toma Model Works HOn30 Porters with new slower drives. Here is one of them.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on March 22, 2022, 07:42:15 PM
are the side boards removable on those flats?

I drew up the same ones in HOn3, and considered doing removable sides but opted against it due to how thin they would be and very susceptible to warping.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 22, 2022, 07:49:22 PM
Well you could remove them I guess, but I glued them in place.

The 3D files here https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5258308
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 26, 2022, 04:09:34 AM
Wherefore art thou shiny object.

This is a 3' gauge 2-6-0
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLW3NV3kaqEgCdYU1buYAfXow3_mWIZzzPp7Dtptwi31MD8MyCbGj5c37cGvp9SWqCgNFB31VxtQthhBlAM8gG6Os86KPe9jjqmBs-Tpd59r9z0xoeIbCics1SLndoMLJ5tOysbCJAkUYSVQwJehV1t6OQ=w1000-h611-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
It has tiny 35" drivers. I found the Baldwin build sheet for it and the driver wheel base is exactly a MDC/Athearn 2-6-0. It was a wood burner with very early domes. I turned it into a coal burner and gave it slightly newer domes. My boiler is actually bigger than the real one.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXF_zk9cNaLLv7oQBICFi5lcxJ37EgmKT_08IaMi_KHHUxhLOvTr3FXuEa1vRVMHHtN9ot-8pP_sMpbS549xInBS_kFhFI0WxkY3YLtvtf4hIzFRFUoJAVCfpYx0FfQzM1dPkTJxxQJGMOjKoYZH3z5TQ=w1000-h835-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
This is only the first test print to see if it fits. I'm adding many more details.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on March 28, 2022, 09:23:05 PM
No moss growing on you dude!! loving that lil Percy bash! That little person is going to fall through the floor in that cab tho!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on March 29, 2022, 08:15:28 AM
Fantastic stuff Chris!

Are you printing all this latest stuff at 23° on the Mini-4K?  The finish on the boilers and rivet detail is pretty outstanding.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 29, 2022, 11:16:30 AM
Fantastic stuff Chris!

Are you printing all this latest stuff at 23° on the Mini-4K?  The finish on the boilers and rivet detail is pretty outstanding.

Jeff

Yes, that has been the winning combo. The cab braces are wire, but the pipes to the tank and boiler are all part of the print.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: narrowminded on March 29, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
Bouncing back to the Davenports. Since they are in 3D I reversed the pilots and made a paint mask.


I've been missing a lot of good posts.  8)

On that paint mask, did you put pockets in the mask to clear the rivets or bolts or did it just set on them?  Does the mask edge sit slightly above the surface or have a relief at the edge to resist paint creeping under the edge?  I'm guessing shoot light passes from straight on.  I have thought of trying a reuseable mask but those items I mentioned were concerns and I never went ahead with any tests.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on March 29, 2022, 09:40:44 PM
Yes, that has been the winning combo. The cab braces are wire, but the pipes to the tank and boiler are all part of the print.

More importantly these are printed at .05mm layer height right Chris? The angle and the layer height are “co-dependant”
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 29, 2022, 10:39:36 PM


On that paint mask, did you put pockets in the mask to clear the rivets or bolts or did it just set on them?  Does the mask edge sit slightly above the surface or have a relief at the edge to resist paint creeping under the edge?  I'm guessing shoot light passes from straight on.  I have thought of trying a reuseable mask but those items I mentioned were concerns and I never went ahead with any tests.

I took the pilots on the model and built around them. Then inset everything about .003" to make up for the light bleed. I didn't undercut the edge, just sprayed straight.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 29, 2022, 10:59:22 PM
More importantly these are printed at .05mm layer height right Chris? The angle and the layer height are “co-dependant”

According to my pics online I got my first printer around Nov.2018. I tried a lower layer height right off the bat and it seemed to sag over large open areas. I changed it to 0.05mm layers and haven't changed it since. I do not know if 23 degrees is ideal or if I could print thinner layers now. I just stuck to what has worked. And the chart for the 47 micron Photon says to use 46.62 degrees with 0.05 layers. I just took a shot and cut that in half to get 23 because I thought 46 would make everything too tall and I'd have to start supporting the rear of it. By chance 23 degrees is what they list for 0.02mm layers (with 47 microns).

Now by using math (not really just drew it in AutoCAD  :P  ) the perfect angle would be 35 degrees. 0.05mm is 0.001968" and 35 microns is 0.001377". I guess I could try 35 degrees some day, but I used 23 and it worked so oh well.

If I used 0.02mm layers my ideal angle should be 22 degrees.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWOiZOlBjoSTDw99YGJrpHAtJspaPTqTXsEXTBupTmJDj4cdPO0Nu5YvNbbDqNEOWG2ep3dseDSiZmWZHLRTIhf6rRfCPTlBPvbiKVEJm5h-zENs7uvdQ3d_t4jUtQCHLeZx7GcbqYCyMitewKfDkGLsw=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Along the same lines as why I didn't run out and get a Sonic Mini 8K. Just don't know if I could see with my eyes in person a difference even if there is. Listen to me now and believe me later  :D

BTW it was Kenji Toma who suggested printing a round loco boiler at an angle. Before that I did everything flat and level and for most things I still do.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on March 29, 2022, 11:03:44 PM
For some reason looking at that last photo of the SD Warren I wonder if I could use an HO scale Percy to make a On30 SD Warren...  no must focus.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on March 29, 2022, 11:18:59 PM
We avidly await your follow up thread.

Mill Creek On30, twice as big and twice as distracting!

Prime reason to get that sonic mini 8K!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on March 30, 2022, 08:41:33 AM
I’ll give .05 a try at 23 degrees and see how it seems. Might also try it at .03. Toma (and you) have pretty amazing results so I think he’s got the experience.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on March 30, 2022, 09:24:09 AM
I’ll give .05 a try at 23 degrees and see how it seems. Might also try it at .03. Toma (and you) have pretty amazing results so I think he’s got the experience.

I know that some guys have good luck with layer heights of 0.03mm or a bit less, but I don't have a lot of success with anything less than 0.05mm.  And I've tried!  Lots of experimentation with the same parts are different layer thicknesses.  Maybe it's down to exposure time, not sure.

Definitely going to give 23° tilt a shot though.  Chris' results have me convinced that's the magic number.

Jeff

Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 03, 2022, 05:20:37 PM
Updated MDC loco
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVPTwVp6hQqZqz3t6JyiE5K80uWDDy60rObw8QxpnXB3VXBtQ4V5eXSVITgtobP5vxxr_Caks4pAVQcjDPuw0wZjaXi_97laxj9XmxLDwU0KKQsTDUJhLiFV4qtr_uH_bo90dKsjhSQxUfEP0ebV2Kc1w=w1000-h308-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUUr5xuu8j6Yv91DvZtyubWNGmRZGHe3CiBab2VOyvk9q-IEjSytT5Sxu7XYVEzYY3q_U9I-Vuc8oFfUCKcvroyZYCyNTglWlnSYGFDAMyjmxVrPpFVfD7u1P0lfzk5MNNl6m27QhpklQyw6mbB8FUxvg=w1000-h617-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUaHJUQ2gg99nxy0yrLj-vSF0elROQBL1mezOrbNq6u1Rad-ukIuWb0W6aL0eRP8PwlqLYOloqVttIBqiHh92qX6DNXtgD1GGfmvWp80ZCPNHC57cPtRE-HWBWwpg8oOlP_w6ruadsvp3AflMR8U7PS3g=w1000-h491-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I had the motor slid up so the stock drive shaft would work, but moving it back left roof for truck screws and pick-up wires. Those are Kato FEF tender trucks under it awaiting new side frames.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on April 13, 2022, 10:37:42 PM
Updated MDC loco
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVPTwVp6hQqZqz3t6JyiE5K80uWDDy60rObw8QxpnXB3VXBtQ4V5eXSVITgtobP5vxxr_Caks4pAVQcjDPuw0wZjaXi_97laxj9XmxLDwU0KKQsTDUJhLiFV4qtr_uH_bo90dKsjhSQxUfEP0ebV2Kc1w=w1000-h308-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUUr5xuu8j6Yv91DvZtyubWNGmRZGHe3CiBab2VOyvk9q-IEjSytT5Sxu7XYVEzYY3q_U9I-Vuc8oFfUCKcvroyZYCyNTglWlnSYGFDAMyjmxVrPpFVfD7u1P0lfzk5MNNl6m27QhpklQyw6mbB8FUxvg=w1000-h617-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUaHJUQ2gg99nxy0yrLj-vSF0elROQBL1mezOrbNq6u1Rad-ukIuWb0W6aL0eRP8PwlqLYOloqVttIBqiHh92qX6DNXtgD1GGfmvWp80ZCPNHC57cPtRE-HWBWwpg8oOlP_w6ruadsvp3AflMR8U7PS3g=w1000-h491-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I had the motor slid up so the stock drive shaft would work, but moving it back left roof for truck screws and pick-up wires. Those are Kato FEF tender trucks under it awaiting new side frames.

Hello my name is Chris it's been 15 days since I last designed a whole locomotive from scratch ... (pause)

Hi Chris!
Joking aside it looks great btw.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on April 14, 2022, 06:57:35 AM
Updated MDC loco
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVPTwVp6hQqZqz3t6JyiE5K80uWDDy60rObw8QxpnXB3VXBtQ4V5eXSVITgtobP5vxxr_Caks4pAVQcjDPuw0wZjaXi_97laxj9XmxLDwU0KKQsTDUJhLiFV4qtr_uH_bo90dKsjhSQxUfEP0ebV2Kc1w=w1000-h308-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
I had the motor slid up so the stock drive shaft would work, but moving it back left roof for truck screws and pick-up wires. Those are Kato FEF tender trucks under it awaiting new side frames.

The finish on that is exquisite!!  Nice model too Chris, exactly what we'd expect.

I've been printing parts on the old Photon for the last week or so...  I don't know why I'm wasting time with it and not firing up the Mini-4K.  I suppose I should find the sheet I downloaded for the Siraya Tech resin I have for it and just have at it.

Nice work...  Still stunned by the finish on this model.

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on April 14, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
You too have the power to make smooth models @JeffB ! Once you see what it's capable of you'll wonder why it took you so long.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: JeffB on April 14, 2022, 12:19:48 PM
You too have the power to make smooth models @JeffB ! Once you see what it's capable of you'll wonder why it took you so long.

Oh, absolutely...  It'll be just like it was when I got the Photon.  Had it for almost a year before I started using it!  Well past that now on the SM4K, need to get a move on it, or I might have a SM8K before I even use the SM4K!

Jeff
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 14, 2022, 01:12:44 PM
Well I use my printer and then let the prints sit for a year before finishing them  :P   Not completely true... I don't finish them  :|
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on April 14, 2022, 10:15:48 PM
@Chris333 it just occurred to me on the last few photos that you might prime your models with the supports on? Is that how you do all of your models?
Do you prime them out of the printer? Or do you let them cure on supports then prime them?

I’m getting to a point... I have seen on my personal prints, that primed prints warp so much less than non primed prints. I don’t know the correlation but I have seen it first hand. I haven’t tried doing prints and then quickly priming them on supports. I wonder if curing “a little” with supports and a quick prime will keep the warp to a minimum?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 14, 2022, 11:24:27 PM
Those sideframes are cured first. I just primed so I could tell if I liked them or not. They were simple so I left the supports on. Most of the time I remove and do any sanding before curing. The way the sidefames are there will be little sanding.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on April 16, 2022, 03:33:30 PM
Some waterfall porn
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWkNDwku_5trmtLmmoCN8mP0lZ6Vu13aRGeKTuGerYlSFnYUNUKadyDoUZ2AFqeEHz62998J871RVdn1AAKh-gTWBDLt1lr9ukLZd88Qj_8QwWejS8UGW6siegQ-8NkBolBzqsQODSpn8G3lZYXSKICKw=w1000-h671-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWc83rSy3_GXUuABp3jX6xsFigVCdNPKCJrsM6nGwEgko56YMf0TyZSaDg2uRuAAHQAiV2CLTP0tMWB1JKwaSMGHXxnm1gMbpH3jOJWVFl_e413I16J8oiP0rUvpb_ySsTzjqbUtGwqm9pMbS7wR-M0BA=w1000-h644-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
That bridge at the top of the falls is the ex P&LE branch up to Carbon Limestone. A few years ago I tried to go to this waterfall and the place was littered with do not trespass signs so I skipped it. Now they turned around and made it into a recreation area.

The P&LE branch went up the hill from Youngstown to reach the many limestone quarries up here. This map should open right where the falls are:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1KhrthMIDaLhSXyRe9q7mULuZRHy6BRte&ll=41.02195789922863%2C-80.51094187093673&z=19

The nearby Bessemer limestone plant at the end of the branch once owed more Heisler locomotives than anyone.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on September 12, 2022, 12:22:41 PM
OK...waterfall porn can only work for so long, we need some train porn
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dem34 on September 12, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
OK...waterfall porn can only work for so long, we need some train porn
Patience
Micro layout Gurus work on inspiration and vibes. If its not there at the moment, on to the next project.

Also careful with the phrasing
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/30/5630-130922001817.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=30371)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 12, 2022, 04:58:35 PM
Model waterfall porn?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEUF7JqzEvYqKAmSXnvh2wsJnroxK4dTMoQYBuEY2ZWgb5LkRclKw3neUzsiA8UAYHwXRod8s91yRdaa8-3muXujOaZwUELxlmWHEtbMMsRHgnCkenarRJUqrkHA8WVIRG64XhHbGurQWN7e_gYl01YYfA=w1000-h938-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

I built a whole new tender for this old thing
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEVrE5ZHFnpTzwU7Tdj0_oDOdxaSFulDS_WtaWiBrU2qAcbNB6Dm9T2tGrh8pcYubKjOgWOqeeofY_mIpejllj6VUmhLnRG-X4yznRgVD2KH7pp4kQCnUpba6GighmcnCTe7a2uxQwtAtc9aBiZadTVabA=w1000-h915-no?authuser=0?.jpg)
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on September 14, 2022, 10:48:05 AM
nice!!!! thanks for the update.  that tender looks like a good match for that locomotive.  I just got a new 10K printer and I am planning on testing it on an American Hoist & Derrick 2 Drum Hoist that I am modeling up.  should be ready to print it any day now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on September 14, 2022, 01:39:45 PM
nice!!!! thanks for the update.  that tender looks like a good match for that locomotive.  I just got a new 10K printer and I am planning on testing it on an American Hoist & Derrick 2 Drum Hoist that I am modeling up.  should be ready to print it any day now.

10K Printer? I'm intrigued. What model did you get? I havent seen any 10K units pop up.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 14, 2022, 04:10:40 PM
10K or 10" ?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: coaltrain on September 19, 2022, 09:50:22 AM
sorry, 10" 8K printer
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 19, 2022, 12:14:14 PM
I have a Sonic Mini 8K in the mail right now.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on September 19, 2022, 08:14:39 PM
Chris, Haven't you been running the Mighty 8K Lately? Or am I remembering incorrectly what your current go to machine is
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 19, 2022, 08:35:44 PM
I have a Sonic Mini 4K. Been having some strange problems with it lately. Like today I just printed about 6 prints of a file, then printed another file. Went back to print another of the first 6 prints and it didn't stick to the build plate. I never even shut the machine off.

Or yesterday. I had a perfect print, next one was stuck to the build plate, but the model tore from the supports and was stuck to the FEP. Clean that off and hit print again and this one came out perfect. All 3 prints are the same file. One good, one bad, one good. This is all at one time without ever shutting the machine off.

So all that along with the fact that the 4K has been running for 2 years now... But the main factor is the 8K has a longer build plate and I can print a whole HOn30 passenger car on it.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Sokramiketes on September 19, 2022, 10:20:16 PM
I have a Sonic Mini 4K. Been having some strange problems with it lately. Like today I just printed about 6 prints of a file, then printed another file. Went back to print another of the first 6 prints and it didn't stick to the build plate. I never even shut the machine off.

Or yesterday. I had a perfect print, next one was stuck to the build plate, but the model tore from the supports and was stuck to the FEP. Clean that off and hit print again and this one came out perfect. All 3 prints are the same file. One good, one bad, one good. This is all at one time without ever shutting the machine off.

So all that along with the fact that the 4K has been running for 2 years now... But the main factor is the 8K has a longer build plate and I can print a whole HOn30 passenger car on it.

Time for an FEP replacement... sounds like too much friction from used FEP surface, or it lost its tight drumhead overtime and it's not peeling well. 

Oh sorry, yes you need an 8k!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 19, 2022, 10:52:59 PM
lol

I tried everything. See one day I had a print and build plate hanging on the drip bracket and pressed the print button. The head came down and hit that breaking the bracket (just resin) the stepper started grinding.

Next time a print failed I:

Replaced the FEP
Re-leveled the build plate.

Prints failed. They would pull from their supports. The raft and supports would be on the build plate the rest on the FEP. These were files that never left the USB stick and printed fine a few days before. So I:
Did the light test.
Took it apart and made sure all the LED were lit, they were.
Checked the power supply, it was 24Volts.

New FEP, new level, prints failed. Thought the Z screw or motor could be bad:
Put the old stepper and lead screw back in. No change (put other screw back in)

I tried to re-support the model with twice as many supports, no good.

Asked someone else what their settings were. Changed to those (just barely different than my settings) and now somehow the print worked.

For a few days till yesterday. Ordered a 8K.

Checked the machine to make sure the Z rail was square, it was. Don't forget I turned my 4K into a jack stand. I beefed up the bottom base with an extra 1/4" aluminum plate. Put a brace on the head. Put a big wrap around brace from the Z rail to the base.

It is much better now, but once I set it about 2 years ago it was fine, I never changed a thing. So now when I print 10 of the same print over and over and 1 out of 10 fails it can't be my settings. A new screen is $100, who knows what a mother costs. Plus I have a few very tiny burnt out pixels.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 19, 2022, 11:02:26 PM
But the kicker was a new passenger car I drew up won't fit on the 4K.  :P
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: davefoxx on September 20, 2022, 03:41:30 PM
But the kicker was a new passenger car I drew up won't fit on the 4K.  :P

Haha!  You’ll soon have as many 3D printers lying around as you do layouts. 😜

DFF
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 20, 2022, 04:09:49 PM
Maybe I'll shovel a few layouts out of the way.  :scared:
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: dem34 on September 20, 2022, 05:04:03 PM
Something has to be said for that weird feeling of knowing a Layout you've built is circulating in the wild somewhere.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: wazzou on September 20, 2022, 05:27:36 PM
Something has to be said for that weird feeling of knowing a Layout you've built is circulating in the wild somewhere.


I thought I'd feel that way about my ex, but the feeling dissipated.   :D
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: timwatson on September 23, 2022, 03:24:22 PM
Maybe I'll shovel a few layouts out of the way.  :scared:

Feel free to shovel toward my house!
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 24, 2022, 03:40:11 AM
sorry, 10" 8K printer

Jeff did you get the x10-8K or did you upgrade another printer?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: motofavorite on September 25, 2022, 09:12:00 PM

I built a whole new tender for this old thing
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEVrE5ZHFnpTzwU7Tdj0_oDOdxaSFulDS_WtaWiBrU2qAcbNB6Dm9T2tGrh8pcYubKjOgWOqeeofY_mIpejllj6VUmhLnRG-X4yznRgVD2KH7pp4kQCnUpba6GighmcnCTe7a2uxQwtAtc9aBiZadTVabA=w1000-h915-no?authuser=0?.jpg)

Awesome looking tender. What trucks are those?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 25, 2022, 09:30:16 PM
My own trucks that take Kato caboose truck pickup strips. All the files here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5479419
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: motofavorite on September 27, 2022, 06:05:37 PM
Thank you for sharing them. The locomotive reminds me of an S.A.R. NG7. The WDLR 2-6-2 could be a good starting point.
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on September 28, 2022, 01:07:09 PM
lol

I tried everything. See one day I had a print and build plate hanging on the drip bracket and pressed the print button. The head came down and hit that breaking the bracket (just resin) the stepper started grinding.

Next time a print failed I:

Replaced the FEP
Re-leveled the build plate.

Prints failed. They would pull from their supports. The raft and supports would be on the build plate the rest on the FEP. These were files that never left the USB stick and printed fine a few days before. So I:
Did the light test.
Took it apart and made sure all the LED were lit, they were.
Checked the power supply, it was 24Volts.

New FEP, new level, prints failed. Thought the Z screw or motor could be bad:
Put the old stepper and lead screw back in. No change (put other screw back in)

I tried to re-support the model with twice as many supports, no good.

Asked someone else what their settings were. Changed to those (just barely different than my settings) and now somehow the print worked.

For a few days till yesterday. Ordered a 8K.

Checked the machine to make sure the Z rail was square, it was. Don't forget I turned my 4K into a jack stand. I beefed up the bottom base with an extra 1/4" aluminum plate. Put a brace on the head. Put a big wrap around brace from the Z rail to the base.

It is much better now, but once I set it about 2 years ago it was fine, I never changed a thing. So now when I print 10 of the same print over and over and 1 out of 10 fails it can't be my settings. A new screen is $100, who knows what a mother costs. Plus I have a few very tiny burnt out pixels.

I've been messing with the UV Power setting on my Mono X lately, does the mini 4K have a similar feature? Perhaps bumping the UV power up would remedy the issue?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Chris333 on September 28, 2022, 03:19:58 PM
Is that something that is on the screen menu?
Title: Re: Mill Creek HOn30
Post by: Erock482 on September 28, 2022, 04:52:28 PM
Yes, well atleast it is on the mono X, its located in the menu that has controls for manually adjusting build plate height or setting up a test exposure. On the mono when you enter the settings menu there's a gear wheel that when you tap that icon it allows you to adjust the UV strength percentage. My mono came at 100% however I've hear that it can vary what the setting was from the factory. I'm currently running some exposure tests as I step down the power to see if I can help eliminate some blooming on finer parts I'm experiencing