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General Discussion => N and Z Scales => Topic started by: fifer on July 04, 2014, 06:11:56 PM

Title: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 04, 2014, 06:11:56 PM

Anyway I got out the Pan Pastels and broke out a Paasche Air Eraser I have never used since i inherited it some 20 years ago.
This is an Eastern Seaboard Models 222701 PC ex-PRR Patch X58 boxcar.
I used the air eraser to remove most of the yellow lettering as well as some of the patch paint and then went to town with the Pan Pastels. On a couple places on the sides and along the lower sills i wet the surface and dabbed on pastels for some texture.
I then coated with Floquil Flat lacquer in a can. I am happy with it and hope to try more soon.

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2338.jpg)


(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2339.jpg)

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2340.jpg)





Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: MichaelWinicki on July 04, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
Great job Mike!

Gotta say I luv Pan Pastels (which I got from you folks)... 

They do a terrific job and much less messy than weathering powders.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 04, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
Thanks Mike , I agree.

Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: bbussey on July 04, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: peteski on July 04, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
I like it!  Myself I'm not good at weathering stuff.   Maybe someday....
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: jimmo on July 04, 2014, 10:21:07 PM
I like it!  Myself I'm not good at weathering stuff.   Maybe someday....

Start subtle. Once you see the difference in how much more real your model looks, you'll be hooked.

Ditto on the Pan Pastels.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 05, 2014, 12:37:28 AM
Thanks Pete and Bryan. :)
Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: mu26aeh on July 05, 2014, 07:31:56 AM
I think you should have just posted " Let's see your weathering " without starting with a photo.  That is so good, no one else wants to post their own.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 05, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
I think you should have just posted " Let's see your weathering " without starting with a photo.  That is so good, no one else wants to post their own.  :facepalm:
Thanks but I think others do so much better at it I didn't think it would be intimidating.
Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: asarge on July 05, 2014, 10:14:16 AM
You destyed a perfectly beautiful green paint job!!  :D

Nice Job.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 05, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
You destyed a perfectly beautiful green paint job!!  :D

Nice Job.

There is such a thing as beautiful green ? 

LOL

Thanks , Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: peteski on July 05, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
Start subtle. Once you see the difference in how much more real your model looks, you'll be hooked.

Ditto on the Pan Pastels.

I've done some on structures on a friend's layout, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.  Looking at what others can accomplish I have a strong feeling that some modelers have a natural talent for realistic weathering.  I like my models clean (fully acknowledging that it is unrealistic in 1:1 world).
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: jimmo on July 05, 2014, 06:19:30 PM
I've done some on structures on a friend's layout, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.  Looking at what others can accomplish I have a strong feeling that some modelers have a natural talent for realistic weathering.  I like my models clean (fully acknowledging that it is unrealistic in 1:1 world).

If you had your own layout, you might see it differently. But then again you might want to model a perfect world. Personally I like the gritty world of railroading. I find beauty in rust and grime. A while back my 20-something step daughter paid a rare visit to my office/hobby room. She looked around and said, Do you ever make anything pretty?

I guess it's true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: pjm20 on July 05, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
I like my models clean (fully acknowledging that it is unrealistic in 1:1 world).

Ed's Law
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: Roger Holmes on July 05, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
I am about to order some from Dick Blick.  What colors did you use?
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: jimmo on July 06, 2014, 12:38:18 AM
Roger I purchased a set called Sketch & Tone, containing basic earth tones; Red Iron Oxide Shade, Raw Umber Shade, Burnt Sienna, Paynes Grey, Yellow Ochre Shade and Black. Apparently the shades are a lighter version of the color. The set provides foam rubber tools for application but I still find myself using the same stiff brush I previously used with other chalks.

Experimentation is essential. IMHO Dullcote is still the best sealer I have found. You still have to build up layers but I find that it's harder to over-do it that way.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: coosvalley on July 06, 2014, 01:15:14 AM
I saw this thread the other night, right after I finished putting tape on my ESM car to protect the questionably pretty green, to represent a more recent patch....weird that we were working on weathering the same car!

Anywho, here is mine, more can be seen in Weekend Update...:)

(http://www.n-scaler.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_IMG_0972.JPG)

(http://www.n-scaler.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_IMG_0958.JPG)
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: peteski on July 06, 2014, 02:05:54 AM
I saw this thread the other night, right after I finished putting tape on my ESM car to protect the questionably pretty green, to represent a more recent patch....weird that we were working on weathering the same car!

Anywho, here is mine, more can be seen in Weekend Update...:)


Your Amfleet cars with the weathered undercarriage look pretty darn good too - so does the caboose, and the tank car.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 06, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
I saw this thread the other night, right after I finished putting tape on my ESM car to protect the questionably pretty green, to represent a more recent patch....weird that we were working on weathering the same car!

Anywho, here is mine, more can be seen in Weekend Update...:)

(http://www.n-scaler.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_IMG_0972.JPG)

(http://www.n-scaler.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_IMG_0958.JPG)

I like it as well , Much more subtle than my effort. It is crazy we were working on the same car together. Call me next time and we can do it again! LOL

Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: LIRR on July 06, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii62/lirrlirr/weathering/fostoria328.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/lirrlirr/media/weathering/fostoria328.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii62/lirrlirr/weathering/UPACF.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/lirrlirr/media/weathering/UPACF.jpg.html)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii62/lirrlirr/weathering/fostoria336.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/lirrlirr/media/weathering/fostoria336.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 06, 2014, 07:23:09 PM
Today Gavin was weathering a couple cars and here he is weathering his Atlas CSX 50' boxcar.
We have been coaching each other and studying Google for images.

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2346-1.jpg)

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2352.jpg)

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2353.jpg)

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e338/mfifer/NEW%20ACTRR/DSCN2355.jpg)

Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: Philip H on July 07, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Hey Mike,
What does Gavin charge per car? 8)
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 07, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
Hey Mike,
What does Gavin charge per car? 8)
Well he would like to get $100.00 per car as he is pretty locomotive crazy !!!!

I have told him when he can do them totally on his own we may sell them on the site for him to spend on his trains. He is pretty good over here with chores to save up and buy what he wants. He does however get the SPECIAL rate !!!!!

 :facepalm:

Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: Philip H on July 07, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
Well, show him Tom Mann's book, and then tell him he's about 90% of the way to that standard.  Then tell him to get back to work!

you are blessed to have 1) a good egg all around and 2) a grandkid with a good enough eye to learn weathering to that level.
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 07, 2014, 11:56:02 AM
Well, show him Tom Mann's book, and then tell him he's about 90% of the way to that standard.  Then tell him to get back to work!

you are blessed to have 1) a good egg all around and 2) a grandkid with a good enough eye to learn weathering to that level.
Thanks Philip, I don't need to whip him much but usually I need to keep up !!
A full time job when he is here. He is either weathering , building something or running the layout. The good part is I can sometimes get him to stop for awhile to watch American Pickers with me. He loves that too.
Crazy Kid !!!

Mike
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: Bendtracker1 on July 07, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Some nice work all around!
Here's a few from my last round.  Oils, acrylics and powders.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FsP--KcKDSM/UuscMK05_nI/AAAAAAAAEzs/CyBECP8ouQw/s800/DSCN3104.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KDp5Qq9W7ZE/UuscOg-XTAI/AAAAAAAAE0E/4w3ajgsN14Y/s800/DSCN3107.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FTuxZGUpJ38/UtYrp1h9lOI/AAAAAAAAEsI/QFO1oLFTFNg/s800/DSCN2981.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G0_xwT8OUZg/UuscUE36E-I/AAAAAAAAE1I/s9VVT7DlI8w/s800/DSCN3115.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uylr21rsJuI/UtYrnUidQBI/AAAAAAAAEro/Qgshp8PPVhw/s800/DSCN2977.JPG)
Title: Re: Lets see your weathering
Post by: fifer on July 07, 2014, 01:56:32 PM
Nice Allen , Night and day , so to speak.

Mike