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General Discussion => N and Z Scales => Topic started by: Cory Rothlisberger on August 03, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
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Expect an official announcement of the first release in the next couple of months.
(http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/Cory/CoryIsSharkBait.jpg)
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So where is the SW1500? :lol:
Hmm... nobody around
here is ever pleased with
any announcement...
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Awesome.
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NICE!!!!!!!! Couldn't see the pic but the announcement is on the Facebook page.
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Wow!
Nice one Paul!
Props to Atlas!
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Very nice. Anyone tell me what the first road names will be?
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They didn't have any yet. But I'll put in for C&O. I could sell quite a few Southerns too.
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Darn it Cory stole my thunder.
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Excellent.
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So where is the SW1500? :lol:
Hmm... nobody around
here is ever pleased with
any announcement...
(http://bayouline.com/o2.gif)
Lol... I was thinking the same thing, but it's awesome to see an S-2 from Atlas.
So the 2s are coming from Atlas, the 4s are coming from Bachmann, it'll be interesting to do a comparo on the two.
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One, please, in PRR!
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Also, personally, I can't wait to see these in various shortline guises.
I love that Atlas does that type of thing.
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As my father in law like to say "Cr@@ppy whappy" Now I have to backdate!
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If they do it in N&W, or Nickel Plate, or give us some unDec's in the first run. I'll be in for a pair, at least.
Alan
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Please do a red/white Soo Line one, I'd be in for a few.
Thanks Atlas!
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If they do it in N&W, or Nickel Plate, or give us some unDec's in the first run. I'll be in for a pair, at least.
Alan
NKP = ouchie on mr. Wallet
Bring it on!
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That totally rocks!!! Road Names, Road Names, I am dying here, what are the road names!!!!!!!! :o
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(http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/2263-0065.jpg)
Chances of doing this to go with the HI C628s?
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Sweet! I second one in SOO and Milwaukee Road.
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S-2's and S-4's in the same week... our cups runith over.
Still waitin' on that N GP40-2W...
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Very nice. Anyone tell me what the first road names will be?
Give or take a few...
Akron Canton & Youngstown
Alton RR
Angelina & Neches River
Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe
Atlanta & St. Andrews Bay
Atlantic Coast Line
Baltimore & Ohio
Bauxite & Northern
Belt Ry of Chicago
Bingham & Garfield Ry
Boston & Maine
Buffalo Creek
Carnegie-Illinois Steel
Central of Georgia
Central RR of New Jersey
Central Vermont
Chattahoochie Valley
Chesapeake & Ohio
Chesnut Ridge
Chicago & North Western
Chicago Burlington & Quincy
Chicago Great Western
Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific
Chicago Rock Island & Pacific
Chicago St. Paul Minneapolis & Omaha(C&NW)
Chicago West Pullman & Southern
Cincinnati New Orleans & Texas Pacific(Southern)
Delaware & Hudson
Delaware Lackawanna & Western
Denver & Rio Grande Western
Elgin Joliet & Eastern
Erie
Fairport Painesville & Eastern
Fonda Johnstown & Gloversville
Galveston Houston & Henderson
General Electric(Port of Albany)
Grand Trunk Western
Great Northern
Gulf Mobile & Ohio
Houston Belt & Terminal
Illinois Terminal
International-Great Northern (Missouri Pacific)
Kaiser Steel
Kewaunee Green Bay & Western
Kansas City Terminal
Lehigh & New England
Lehigh Valley
Long Island RR
Longview Portland & Northern
Los Angeles Junction Ry
Louisville & Nashville
Maine Central
Manufacturers RR
Massena Termina
McKeesport Connecting
Michigan Limestone & Chemical
Minneapolis & St. Louis
Minnesota Transfer
Missouri Pacific 9107
Monongahela Connecting
Nashville Chattanooga & St. Louis
Newburg & South Shore
New Jersey Zinc Co.
New York Central
New York Chicago & St. Louis(Nickel Plate)
New York, New Haven & Hartford
New York Susquehanna & Western
Northeast Oklahoma
Northern Pacific
Northern Pacific Terminal
Oliver Iron Mining Co.
Patapsco & Back Rivers
Pennsylvania
Peoria & Pekin Union
Philadelphia Bethlehem & New England
Pittsburgh & Lake Erie(NYC)
Port Huron & Detroit
Portland Terminal (Maine)
Reading
Richmond Fredericksburg & Potomac
St. Louis-San Francisco
Seaboard Air Line
South Buffalo
Southern Ry
Southern Pacific
Spokane Portland & Seattle
State Belt RR of California
Tennessee Coal & Iron
Terminal Ry-Alabama State Docks
Terminal RR Association of St. Louis
Texas Gulf Sulfur
Texas & New Orleans(SP)
Texas Pacific-MP Terminal
Toledo Terminal
Truax-Truer Coal
Union RR
Union Pacific
U.S. Army
U.S. Navy
U.S. Navy - Naval Ammunition Depot,
Weirton Steel
Western Maryland
Western Pacific
Wheeling Steel
Wisconsin Central(Soo Line)
Youngstown & Northern
Youngstown Sheet & Tube
Canadian National
Canadian Pacific
Ontario Northland
National de Mexico
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Perfect timing now that I'm slimming down to a switching layout!
WM speedlettering, please. I'm especially excited about the directional lighting. The old Arnolds just don't cut it.
Lee
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Oh, man! This is fantastic news for N scalers.
Check this out for a list of roads that owned S-2s and their rosters: http://www.thedieselshop.us/Alco_S2.HTML. I'd be interested in RF&P, ACL, and/or SAL.
DFF
P.S. Hopefully, the success of this model will lead Atlas to produce the long-sought SW1500.
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With any luck, they'll do the S4 as well. :ashat:
Awesome announcement!
Jason
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I'll guess the first run will be:
ATSF
BNSF
SP
UP
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Thanks guys!
The S.
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Cory, you forgot all of the mergers, repaints, 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand owners, etc.
:D
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Give or take a few...
Dude that was just WRONG!!! LOL! Thanks for the announcement!
+1 Dr. Dave!
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Paul, I don't think there are enough bytes for that. Between the S2 and the 40' PS1 project. The release's could be like the energizer bunny on and on and onn..........
Oh yeah and thanks for the Illinois Grain Thrall 4750's!!
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Top choice for the first run...
(http://rrpicturearchives.net/pictures%5C62519%5CBayColony_AlcoS2_1054_Jul85a.JPG)
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Atlas can do runs of this one forever. So many choices. I'm in for several when they do the roadnames I like. And I do think they should do at least a couple of roads that are still using them today. Again, great choice. As Ron White would say "It's gonna be a great day Tater", will all the new announcements being made. Now to justifiy the money.
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Also, personally, I can't wait to see these in various shortline guises.
I love that Atlas does that type of thing.
+1
I'll pick up at least one, it would be perfect for my freelanced shortline
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SP please, as many paint variations as possible, plus a NMRA 6 pin decoder, don't have to wait and pay the premium for a proprietary decoder, good job Atlas!!!
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I'll take some in Reading please...
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I'll guess the first run will be:
ATSF
BNSF
SP
UP
;)
No, that would be Kato, not Atlas!!!
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Grand Slam!!!
"With any luck, they'll do the S4 as well."
I wonder if the AAR-A sideframes from the VO might be of use in doing an S4?
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C&O and B&O for me!! :o 8)
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The only cab ride I ever had. A D&H S-2 puttering around Oneonta yard. On the other hand, two local tourist roads have S-4's I have ridden behind. Decisions, decisions. BTW, congratulations on your first locomotive in a long time. Nice choice. Hope it is successful.
Frank
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I thought there was something to that comment made by Paul yesterday on the S4 thread.
This is cool news, thanks for coming through on this one, all you Atlas folk.
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I'm in for two or four...
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Dear Atlas,
As-delivered scheme for Spokane Portland & Seattle, please!
Love,
Adam
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Not needed for my roster, but a very significant announcement in two respects:
1. One of the most often-requested locomotives to be done, with many paint schemes possible.
2. The first new locomotive from Atlas since the upheaval in China, which suggests that significant progress in re-establishing manufacturing sources has been made.
Congratulations Atlas on a very important announcement, and for all the hard work and perserverance over the past several years which has made a new locomotive possible.
Tim
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Next mouth announce a AS-616? :P
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Fantastic announcement, thanks Atlas! I've been waiting a long time for these and I shall be buying a bunch as the various roads I collect appear.
Cheers,
Kev
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OMG.
I have spent a large deal of effort on scratch building early ALCO diesels in N Scale. I can't wait, it can go along with my S1, and in progress HH600.
Yeah!
John
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Cory, Paul:
Look, I just ordered 33 of the second release of the trash flats. Combined with the 20 I have from the first run, I think that the decent thing to do would be to do the GP40-2W in N. I mean, come on...
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This is awesome!!!!
Great news,
Wolf
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Is it me or is everybody just overlooking Lee's comment to redo his layout into a switching layout?
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I love you, Atlas. :-X
Now you have to do Great Northern, ya hear? It's the law. And just so you know... I would prefer the Empire scheme. (As opposed to the SIMPLIFIED Empire scheme.)
Thank you for your support.
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Awesome news, I vote for MEC and PT.
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Is it me or is everybody just overlooking Lee's comment to redo his layout into a switching layout?
It was noted, and ignored. :trollface:
S-2. S-4. Wow. What have we done to deserve this? Can't be clean living, that's for sure! I have a hunch I'll have more S-2's than -4's, and that's because Bachmann will likely only do one number in my RR. My workbench queue is far too long to buy multiples of yet something else that will need renumbering.
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Not needed for my roster, but a very significant announcement in two respects:
1. One of the most often-requested locomotives to be done, with many paint schemes possible.
2. The first new locomotive from Atlas since the upheaval in China, which suggests that significant progress in re-establishing manufacturing sources has been made.
Congratulations Atlas on a very important announcement, and for all the hard work and perserverance over the past several years which has made a new locomotive possible.
Tim
Now the next two questions:
1) What is the price point?
2) What is the expected delivery date and will it be met?
I am hoping reasonable and on time!!! :D
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Geez , I go to Cape Cod, and the big fish are caught here . Great news , me votes for " The Road of the Streamliners/Serves all the West" scheme .
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Is it me or is everybody just overlooking Lee's comment to redo his layout into a switching layout?
I saw, I pondered, I wait
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This is all very cool!
Although the SW1200's currently working Nelson yard on the C&W are beautiful little switchers performance wise, I can't wait to replace them with equivalently smooth-running but prototypically correct Alcos...
thx Atlas (and Bachmann)
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saw this one on facebook...looks like Cory needs more work to do...
(http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/Cory/bnsfs-2.jpg)
I suggest designing the tooling for SW1000/1500s.
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So where is the SW1500? :lol:
What Kiz said
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Just a few questions...
1. Is this a new motor, or the Mashima thingy you guys used in the MP15.
2. Are these a new truck design? Will the trucks or sideframes work with the VO1000?
I can't wait for the Bay Colony unit. I remember when they cut it up right behind my employer back in 2004.
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Is it me or is everybody just overlooking Lee's comment to redo his layout into a switching layout?
Not sure about redoing a layout, but ideas of the Tacoma Municipal Belt Railway are dancing through me head.
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Questions on the DCC:
1. Does this thing come with the decoder or does the user buy one and plug it into the socket?
2. If it comes with the decoder, do we non-DCC users unplug it and operate the thing, or do we just operate it on DC and leave the decoder in place?
3. My experience with Bachpersonn's on board decoders is mixed. In some cases, the B-mann will operate just as well on DC with the decoder left in place as it does with it removed. In some cases, the B-mann operates better on DC with the decoder removed. If it happens that this one operates better without it, will the changeover to strictly DC be as simple as it is for the Bachmann?
Anyhow, this is excellent news and Atlas deserves an ovation. I was going to purchase the Bachpersonn, but bitter experience with 44 tonner handrails suggests that disassembling the S-4 for painting for a non-historic will be difficult. The disassembly of Atlas power has always been simple. I expect that I will hold out for the Atlas.
Oh, and if you do the P&LE, please use a paint scheme that was actually on one of these things instead of a Howard Fogg scheme as B-mann is doing. And no, use of these for post NYC boys would be historically incorrect, as P&LE got rid of most of their ALCos in 1966. They never had the black with the huge yellow letters.
Great announcement, Atlas.
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The way I read the DCC options on the loco...it will come with a NMRA socket jut like the FVM models have. The loco will come with a jumper plug to run on DC and you simply unplug the jumper and replace it with a decoder of your choice to run DCC. It's about as simple as it gets to install DCC in a setup like this.
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THUMP! The sound of me fainting and falling off my chair.
THANK YOU!
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Two please - one of each grill configuration.
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo9035.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/boct9049.jpg
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Expect an official announcement of the first release in the next couple of months.
Amazing. What sort of motor?
Mark
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i want to know about the mechanism. It would be way cool if LL or VO1000 A trucks dropped in.
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YES! NKP made the list, now if I can get a couple in N&W! (not sure if they were ex-NKP or Wabash units, but I know they had several). With all the different road names, you guys will be making these for years.
Alan
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I don't really care if it even runs , that's how much these are needed .
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I hope Atlas treats these like they have the GP7s and 9s. They just keep churning them out. For me, someone who custom paints a lot, it is nice to be able to grab a unit when the spirit moves me. I have a long list of S2s and S4s that I would like to model.
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I hope Atlas treats these like they have the GP7s and 9s. They just keep churning them out. For me, someone who custom paints a lot, it is nice to be able to grab a unit when the spirit moves me. I have a long list of S2s and S4s that I would like to model.
With the list of possible railroads listed by Cory I would think that is their full intention. Why wouldn't you, this is clearly the proven business model.
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YES! NKP made the list, now if I can get a couple in N&W! (not sure if they were ex-NKP or Wabash units, but I know they had several). With all the different road names, you guys will be making these for years.
Alan
N&W inherited S-2s from both the NKP & WAB (more from Wabash).
Most probably were used on ex NKP or Wabash rails.
Mark
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I am torn...the LAST 3 S2's were of the SP roster by 1976, and the last 36 S4's were gone by then as well. The last 5 S6's lasted until 1981...do I get one and model an S6 even though they liked to haunt California?
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If they do it in N&W, or Nickel Plate, or give us some unDec's in the first run. I'll be in for a pair, at least.
Alan
I second that :D
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i am in for at least 6...
maybe releasing them without cab numbers could be a consideration... although changing the number wouldn't be that tough...
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I can see a brace of 6 struggling up your 3 percent grade.
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I can see a brace of 6 struggling up your 3 percent grade.
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2% until the last 12 feet... then it hits ya'.... just ask Ed... his Big Blue always makes it.. but not with a little sand on the wheels...
EP
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Cory, you forgot all of the mergers, repaints, 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand owners, etc.
:D
Yeah, like this one to go with those gorgeous GVT Rail System RS11's I just bought!
(http://www.gvtrail.com/images/rr/dlwr/dlwr.jpg)
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All of the BN's were gone by 1974, and I can't imagine the MILW using one in my part of Montana, but I will probably get an undec for the local coal company. Their Arnold hates the vertical curve at the top of the transfer track, and the MiniTrix FM, while quite usable, does look its age.
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Cory, you forgot all of the mergers, repaints, 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand owners, etc.
:D
it's close enough fer' me
former US Army circa 1980
(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/sbvr1.jpg) (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/54683/title/sbvr/cat/500)
(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/untitled3.JPG) (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/54687/title/sbvr/cat/500)
and the original scheme in 1979
(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/S1_1978.jpg) (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/96445/title/sbvr-s1-1978/cat/500)
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The CPR had two lots of S2's, one built by Alco (7010 - 7069) and another lot built by MLW under licence. They also had MLW built s4's. The Atlas model should be close to the CPR Alco S2's but I don't think either the Atlas S2 or the Bachmann S4 will stand in for the MLW units without some work....but, I'm in for a few S2's and we'll see what we can do about modifying something for either of the MLW units.
Hey, we've lived with this for years so...... :D
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(http://www.railpage.org.au/pix/diesel/2263-0065.jpg)
Would go well with this:
(http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/NLocomotives/nc628/0409/54078_TQ.jpg)
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It's great for all of us that Atlas is doing an N scale S-2.
Just to whet all of our appetites, I am sure the modern 2012/2013-manufactured version by Atlas is going to
improve on the clunky handrails that the 20-year old Arnold S-2 had, here's a couple of pics of that Arnold classic that we'll be
comparing to the Atlas S-2 (this one below has the low-profile NWSL wheels installed to prevent that huge-flange look) :
(http://home.comcast.net/~atsf_arizona_2/Santa_Fe_Alco_S-2_N_scale.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~atsf_arizona_2/Weathered_Santa_Fe_Alco_S-2.jpg)
We're all looking forward to the N scale Atlas S-2 with the associated traditional Atlas excellent running characteristics.
Wishing success to Atlas,
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Woot all the B&M and MEC ones I will have! But I need S3's for Hobo RR...pffffft :facepalm:
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But I need S3's for Hobo RR...pffffft
Ummm, are you sure about that? :o They do have an S-3, but it currently has Blunt trucks, basically making it look like an S-1.......
The 958, 959, and 1008 are all S-1s.
Now we will need someone to make decals for "yellow end" PT switchers, as there are no yellow PT logos available yet.....
oh yea, almost forgot
Thanks for listening, Atlas!
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Ummm, are you sure about that? :o They do have an S-3, but it currently has Blunt trucks, basically making it look like an S-1.......
The 958, 959, and 1008 are all S-1s.
Now we will need someone to make decals for "yellow end" PT switchers, as there are no yellow PT logos available yet.....
oh yea, almost forgot
Thanks for listening, Atlas!
Time for use to start a letter writing campaign to Highball for MEC and PT decal sets for S series switchers.
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Ummm, are you sure about that? :o They do have an S-3, but it currently has Blunt trucks, basically making it look like an S-1.......
The 958, 959, and 1008 are all S-1s.
Yes but 1183 is an S3!
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:D :drool:
Well, I need S-1's & S-3's more, but there's a nice article in the old AARRT&HS news letter about converting the shell.
ATLAS GUYS: UNDEC'S!!!
Unless of corse, the 1/3 will come along later, then I could stand to buy some PHD & GTW's, plus maybe a MEC or two.
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They do have an S-3, but it currently has Blunt trucks, basically making it look like an S-1.......
Yes but 1183 is an S3!
That's what i said! I guess it depends on the era you would like to represent. If I were modeling the present, I would want to use an S-1 to model it, as the trucks are the major spotting feature between the S-1 and S-3.
I wonder if someone will make an S-1/3 shell that would fit this upcoming model, like ATLAS did some years ago in HO. I have heard that the S-1/3s are six inches shorter in length, but that would be hard to spot in N.....
Also, here's hoping that the VO-1000 sideframes will fit this new model, so I can make a poor mans S-4......unless the Bachmann S-4 runs better and comes in UNDECORATED........but I don't think undecorated translates into Chinese........ :|
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unless the Bachmann S-4 runs better and comes in UNDECORATED........but I don't think undecorated translates into Chinese........ :|
Well, I lived in Beijing for a year, and "undecorated" describes the soviet-era concrete apartment buildings I lived in pretty well. :P
"Austere," "Bleak," and "Charming and Warm as a Parking Garage" are also apt adjectives.
Personally, I'm pulling for an early State Belt scheme, but I think both manufactuers would be seriously limiting their markets if they didn't offer undecorated versions.
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Cory and Paul, if I may offer a suggestion.Do the Bachmann thing and offer these little beasties painted but unlettered.I think guys like me who model today would be more inclined to buy them and decal them (I would be good for 3 :D)
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...Do the Bachmann thing and offer these little beasties painted but unlettered...
Hmm... painted with
polka dots or stripes...?
(http://bayouline.com/o2.gif)
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So with the latest announcements of U25B's for 3rd quarter next year does this mean these will be fourth quarter............Any updates Paul or Cory?? :D